hey buttheads, look out for that $500 fine!

(and don't expect any alcohol to be sold)

but I'm definitely looking forward to a nice, chilled Frosty, after 13 years & 3-1/2 weeks...

What is that $500 fine? Probably something to do with alcohol..

I grew up in that place... and got cited at 16 for riding my bike and drinking beer...

The $500 fine is for smoking. Check the Phil @ Frost thread on the "Other Stuff" page.

I'll be drinking pints at the Rose & Crown at 547 Emerson St. off of University Ave. after the show.

Love to the Zone!

Hey Rastacruz,

I hope I can drag my buddy who's doin' the driving to this bar after the show - want to finally say hello to you.

If not, have a blast!!

Zoners Unite!!!

HEY LUCKY ONES GOING TO SHOW AT FROST...
IF YOU SEE OUR FRIENDS BARBARA ( YEH MON - LADY WITH BUMPER STICKER COVERED MOTOR HOME ) AND DOG " HOBBS " ( MUST HAVE MUSHROOM ABOVE TAIL ) TELL THEM TO GET IN TOUCH WITH FRIENDS IN SAN DIEGO...ALL IS GOOD....SAW PHIL HERE AT SAN DEIGO STATE UNIV. " OPEN AIR " ( CAPACITY IS 4500 - THERE WAS 3000+ AT SHOW )......GOOD VIBES, COMFORTABLE SURROUNDS, SEEMS TO BE THEME THIS LEG OF TOUR.....COSMIC CHARLEY.....HAVE A SAFE, HAPPY, TRIP DOWN THE AVE N U ....

After the last two shows, I feel like I could go back to SoCal today and watch the Lakers get thrashed on TV, totally full-PHILed. I haven't been to the Frost Amphitheater since 1985 and I almost can't believe I'm going back...There and Back Again. With pre-tour fears of being overdosed with new tunes, I can say that Phil and his band of maniacs has been too kind to us left-coasters. I usually enter a show with a lofty wish-list, but what more could one ask for? Well, I am greedy. Let's hope for a huge The Other One and maybe a Help-Knot!-Franklin's with some tasty grooves in the middle, and a Rabbit sighting couldn't hurt. In Phil we trust.

Be safe and show the LOVE while "we" make music together with Phil and Friends tonight.

big bust out today?

and how bout a classic musical journey,(keep in mind none of these songs have been played since LA)...as hunter tells it , the story goes like this...
playin in the band (daybreak on the land,the journey begins)>
uncle johns band (growth and celebration)>
the wheel (maturity and acceptance)>
china doll (decay and death)>
playin reprise (just a bunch of musicians playin in the band)

but, as we all know ,it's more
thank you, tom van sant

Set 1: Jam> Uncle John's Band> Jam> Shakedown Street> Leave Me Out of This, Patchwork Quilt, Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds> Good Lovin'

Jam> Eyes of the World>
Jam> The Wheel>
Other One>
The Wheel> Jam>
Midnight Train> Jam>
Help on the Way>
Slipknot!>
Franklin's Tower
E: Celebration>
Lovelight

From the looks of the setlist, I would assume that there was no reunion. Looks like a great show though.

WOW!. Frost is a killer venue. I hope they play there alot more, Phil said they would..
Great run.

Oh my god! It just keeps getting better and better. Fuck what happened yesterday. Every show tops the last. Yesterday may have been the perfect show, in a perfect place, on a perfect day. Security was almost nonexistant, you could walk all over the campus with beers and nobody said anything. Vendors definately had a good day. Inside the energy level was whatever you wanted it to be. Cool, shady and laid back, or absolutely sick, physical intensity in the hot sun with all the freaks. You could walk right up to the rail at any time during the show and make faces at Phil and WArren. (They were beaming all day). At one point I sat down against the rail to catch my breath and saw this kid who had on the coolest hand painted shorts I've ever seen. I asked him where I could get some and he said, I'll sell you these for twenty bucks. He took them off right there and sold them to me. It was one of those kind of days. After the show a bunch of us wandered over the the Rodin sculpture garden and pondered the Gates of Hell. From there one thing led to another and it is now Monday morning and I still haven't been to bed. But I am at work all dressed up trying to fake it. Somehow I just can't wipe the smile off my face

An amazing show! Thanks Phil and Co. for bringing us back to the Frost and playing such beautiful music. The show took place within a circle of trees, on grass and it was lovely! The crowd was excellent, starting outside in line and throughout the show. Great circular songs, that were explored to their fullest. What a great time!!!!!

GaGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAG
Just back in Phoenix after an all night drive from the Frost!

What a weekend! Saturday night was mind numbing, but The Frost on Sunday!

Sundays show is about as close to the Perfect Concert your gonna get in 2002, whoever the band.

Incredible venue, incredible atmosphere. Very cool administration and security. Easy close parking and a real lawn to sit on!

Sunshine, trees , breezes, lots of loving sharing people, and oh yeah, did I mention there was a band playing?

The jams were flowing like never before. I sure hope someone gets the soundboard of this show, cause some PA trouble throughout the first set was the only ,albeit minor, blemish on the day.

I am stupified at how good this band is. I never saw the Dead at the Frost, but it couldn't have been much better than this. Some of Jimmys solos on Sunday were absolutely soaring, especially the solo near the end of Uncle Johns band. I remember thinking that Jimmy has found the room where Garcia worked. Its just a question of what he does, now that hes found the key. It's a BIG room!

Patchwork Quilt and Celebration are still growing, and getting stronger and stronger. Its the first time Ive heard Celebration that it really seemed to stand up and fit in.

I was debating with a fellow Saturday night before the second set. I was thinking about a nice fat Other One, while he insisted they were gonna do DarkStar>St.Stephen>The Eleven> Darkstar.

Well, when they started Cryptical, I figured I had it right. Then it never developed, other than a letter perfect precise instrumental reading of the introduction. Then I had to laugh later when they prceeded to play my friend's wishlist, verbatim!

Finally got the big Other One on Sunday and It roared. Perfect capper fo a perfect weekend.

Thanks to all for making me smile.

Well , I wanted to write a nice review, but words fail me completely. I just know that if P+F are back at the Frost again, I'll be there.

Still flying from last 3 days of FMB music like I haven't experienced since the pre-coma days. Each day topped the last, with Sunday/Frost being maybe top 5 all-time (Dead+PLQ). Jams on Sunday were focused and in context, as compared to the occassional "noodling" at both Greek shows. Easy to tell from the playing and the band's faces a great time was being had by all. IMHO, one other thing that separated the Frost show from the Greek's was the band really "climaxing" their songs with Phil dropping down into the pocket with serious thunder and allowing the others to throw on copious color and flash. Help/Slipknot/Franklins was pure ecstacy (not the drug), with Phil actually RAISING HIS VOICE while singing the final lyrics. Thought I'd seen most everything. What a long strange trip I've yet to go! BTW, a mere 1 hr after the last note of the Sat.Nite Greek show, an earthquake happened directly under the Berkeley campus. Didn't I hear Rumblin' Rose that nite? How fitting.

Tom..I gotta know what those freakin' shorts looked like!!

Drawstring style blue canvas gym shorts with really bright circular dead symbols in yellow orange and red. They are going to be my favorites for a long time. Thanks for asking.

Another day later and I still cant stop smiling. This show will stay with me for a long time.

It looks like many haven't quite unscrambled their brains yet from the whole weekend yet! hehe

What can be said about the Frost that hasn't alreadsy been said. It was a day of celebration. Got to campus early and waited in line. Met Lord Henry which was very nice. Everyone in line was talking about the Greek show from the previous night. The anticipation of the Frost was almost unbearable.

After getting in and walking up the ramp, an almost overwhelming feeling came over me when I stood at the back of the Frost looking down and around at the beauty. ****Honey...I'm home!****

Decided on Warren side for this show and ended up right behind Lord Henry up front so the Zone was well represented!

There was no reunion or big bustouts at the Frost and neither was really necessary. The setlist looked like any setlist from GD shows at the Frost. How can you beat UJB, Shakedown, Good Lovin', Eyes, Wheel, Other One, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Lovelight?

Once again, I had to tell people the names of new songs...BUY THE ALBUM!

There will be musings about which show was the best of the first leg. The Frost show may not have had the DS>SS>11>DS form the night before, but it delivered a powerful punch as well.

It looked like the band really enjoyed playing the Frost. I don't know if any of the members besides Phil have played there before, but Rob just couldn't wipe the smile from his face all day long (neither could I for that matter!)

After the show, a roadie tossed some of the PLF hats that had been worn by Jimmy and some roadies. I was lucky to get one of them. I don't know if it was the hat that Jimmy had worn for the show, but I don't know if it wasn't either. b-)

It was really cool up front becuase you could get your picture taken with the band behind you in the picture!

Phil gave an extended donor rap and talked about how great it was to back at the Frost and hopefully this will open it up for future shows.

With the monumental Greek and Frost shows along with that smoking tour opener in Phoenix under my belt, I am about to head back to Oklahoma today with a big smile and will be listening to a lot of grate music and I can't wait to hear all four of those shows again.

It was worth the whole trip and then some. I had good karma the whole time beginnning with an incredible sunset as I was driving West 13 days ago. I caught a foul ball at the Giant's game the Thursday before the Greek shows and got the Friday setlist and a PLF hat from the Frost. I hope my karma remains strong for my drive back home.

I'll check back in when I get back to Oklahoma.

Love to the Zone!

the sound at this show was a problem to say the least and I am curious if a listenable first set is possible because during the first set banks of speakers kept cutting on and off it was weird.

>>>during the first set banks of speakers kept cutting on and off it was weird

This was a drag for me as well, I almost tried moving to get around it. It seemed like things had gotten under control by the end of Shakedown there. Definitely hope for a SBD release of this show!

>>>There will be musings about which show was the best of the first leg.

Based on the five shows I saw this tour:
San Diego had the best guest (Karl Denson), the best Eyes I've heard these guys do, as well as one of their best Hard to Handles.

LA had the most energy. That Shakedown>Sittin' was on FIRE, the Eleven was HUGE, and that jam out of UJB is one to be reckoned with. I couldn't stop dancing in LA.

The Friday Greek had the best First Set. Great energy, best Wharf I've heard from this crew and one of the best Violas.

The Saturday Greek had the best Second Set: Dew>DS>SS>11>DS>1000 Stars, and the playing did the setlist justice. 'nuf said.

The Frost was the best all around show I saw. Beautiful day, beautiful people, amazing playing, killer setlist. I was so happy to finally catch a LSD and a HSF (I had to leave NYE early and missed it )

This leg of the tour, I think every show was the best in one way shape or form. Thanks Phil & Co. for continuing to amaze me to no ends!

best shows I saw on this leg were

1)friday Greek -First set Viola u kidding me? I spoke not a word during that set break.The let Jimmy sing chants were unreal. He was turning red in the face and Rob make chicken noises as he tried to pass off the mic to Jimmy. I had the most fun at this show and i think it was the same for the band.

2)sAN dIEGO -Killer killer killer with Karl Denson joining the band for a couple songs? You gotta be kidding me..

3)The Joint in Vegas-I love these tiny clubs eventhough I lost more then I won.....surprised they didnt play loser for me lol


Those in my opinion were the best 3 shows of the lot with Second night Greek and L.A Greek getting honorable mention. Frost I never really got ampped cause of the sound difficulties combined with the fact that it was my 6th show in 10 days didnt help but that withstanding I would not hesitate to see another frost show or 3 because it was a beautiful venue and security was nice and the food selection was unbelievable (kinda made me wish I would have skipped the "In-N-Out" on the way in. No alcohol but they compensated with fresh squeezed tangerine juice and ben and jerrys.


It was an amazing 2 weeks now to get my barrings back for the show on 6/28 in beautiful milwaukee.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW, a mere 1 hr after the last note of the Sat.Nite Greek show, an earthquake happened directly under the Berkeley campus. Didn't I hear Rumblin' Rose that nite? How fitting.

I did some digging and came up with these websites.

http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo?location=palo+alto%2C+ca
http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/latest.htm
http://quake.geo.berkeley.edu/data/quake/plan.xerox_map.html

Basically here is what I found.

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DATE-(UTC)-TIME LAT LON DEP MAG Q COMMENTS
yy/mm/dd hh:mm:ss deg. deg. km
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02/06/02 19:52:34 37.47N 118.84W 7.1 2.3Md B* 24 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/02 19:54:04 37.46N 118.84W 6.9 2.2Md B* 24 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/02 21:37:31 37.46N 118.84W 7.8 3.3Ml B* 24 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/02 23:30:55 37.47N 118.84W 6.8 2.5Md B* 23 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/03 01:00:06 37.47N 118.84W 7.1 2.8Md B* 23 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/03 02:52:27 37.47N 118.84W 7.7 2.3Md B* 23 km SSE of Mammoth Lakes, CA
02/06/03 09:29:41 40.72N 122.45W 20.8 2.2Md B* 16 km NNW of Redding, CA


and the long and lat for Palo Alto, Ca =
Placename State County Lat/Long Elevation Population Remark Postal code Nation
Palo Alto California Santa Clara County 37:26:31 N 122:08:31 W 23 55225 94300-2, 94304-6, 94309 US


So basically PLF is now at such a level they are causing sonic vibrations that create epicenters?


I really missed a weekend this weekend I guess...

A great pair of Long weekends-

Vegas was a big highlight for me, as was the whole run last weekend. I love the Frost- A great venue and a great setting on a beautiful day.

It was nice to meet you Rastacruz-
And nice to run into Lord Henry again- I'll see you at the Warfield-

Great, great start of the summer tour. Band is in much better shape than winter. It's such a treat (for the audience) that none of these shows sold out, it just seems like they always sell too many tickets to GA shows, but not if people won't buy them they don't! The jam in "Leave Me Out of This" at this show was out of this world.

I hope this hasn't already been beat to death, but what's up with people bringing their kids to these shows? The Frost show in particular had like hundreds of small children running about. I'm no parent, but I think that's crazy. Would these people take their kids to a rave? Would they take their kids to a nightclub? There's more blatant drug use at these shows than I've ever seen, well, anywhere else. It's just the reality of the situation, it's not a family-safe environment. How do those people feel when everyone around their children is smoking pot and their children are breathing the smoke? They just look like irresponsible, selfish parents to me, the type that value a show over their children. Phil's great, but you gotta have some priorities. I recall one time I lost a bag of shrooms at a show. Yes, it's totally irresponsible of me, but it just fell out of my pocket or something, it happens. I can imagine that a bag of shrooms, or a singe shroom, or a chunk of a mushroom chocolate would look like something a child would put in their mouth - what a disaster that would be. Why don't they make all shows at least 18+ ? It seems like that's an easy argument to make. Sorry for the rant, but there were so many children at this show, and it really bugged me. Great show though.

18+? Jeez, I can see people not liking little kids there, but that's ridiculous.

Oh GOD if only someone had taken me to a Grateful Dead concert when I was a toddler!!!!LOL

Hey King8;
I am a very responsible parent!! I have taken my kids to shows and will keep taking them to shows until they are old enough to go on their own. I do shows specifically with my kids, remember I have to buy tickets for them. I think exposing kids to this music and being open about my lifestyle is healthy. Maybe if you get your HEAD OT OF YOUR ASS you will see that children are a huge part of this community and always have been. My son saw his first show when he was 2 and remebers it like it was yesterday, he is 12 now. If you are so uptight that you judge us parents as irresponsible then maybe you are projecting your own incababilities as a person.
I have been going to Rock and Roll shows since I was 13 and was able to see a bunch of great acts, acts that a lot of folks my age were not able to catch because they started too late. I only wish that my whole family could have been in attendence at this awesome show.Music is for everyone not just for those who are 18 and over get real you stooooopid fuck!!

Whoa there! Please don't interact in this manner on the Philzone.
First off, King87 Making generalizations that parents are selfish and don't care about their kids will get you nowhere. Maybe if you are going to do illegal drugs at the show (I have no problem with that) and having kids around bothers you, you should find a place in the venue with no kids around. Also, if the concern for the kids is so great, what about bringing kids to sporting events- Lots of drug abuse going on there- alcohol and cigarettes being consumed like crazy.
I do think there needs to be sensitivity to kids and drug use/abuse (there is a big difference between use and abuse) and parents need to decide how they are going to educate them. Ultimately it is up to parents.

Popi- I agree that kids should be allowed at shows, but to tell someone they have their head up their ass and they are a stupid fuck will not help them understand that there is a place for kids at shows. That response sure didn't make you seem like a balanced healthy person (or parent for that matter. I'm sure you could have pointed out that negative generalizations are not fair in a better manner.

And a note on general nastiness- Wasn't a lesson learned with the Kona business? I trade music, connect with friends I meet on tour and see show reviews here, but I still couldn't miss the Kona business, esp. with the pop up boxes. Please don't post nasty crap on the board- we all read it.... If you must, put it in an email to the person....

>>>>what's up with people bringing their kids to these shows?

Some of us enjoy seeing shows w/ our family. Personally, it's never too early to expose your child to good music..

>>>>The Frost show in particular had like hundreds of small children running about.

THAT, sounds like my kind of show!!! Family oriented.. The way it SHOULD be..

It's a fact that children will always be around. They're people too. It's selfish for some to think that them being f*cked up & not having to be responsible in their surroundings & not having to be responsible enough to not lose their drugs is ridiculous!

>>>It's just the reality of the situation, it's not a family-safe environment.

And what IS really a family safe environment these days? We recently attended our child's School carnival, which was crowded, parents shoving, parents drunk. That was worse than many shows I've taken my kids too!

>>>Phil's great, but you gotta have some priorities

It's always easy to find the faults of others isn't it? There's many breast-feeding mothers who wouldn't see shows if they had to leave their kids.. Ban them too?

>>>I can imagine that a bag of shrooms, or a singe shroom, or a chunk of a mushroom chocolate would look like something a child would put in their mouth - what a disaster that would be.

A parent has to watch what their kids pick up anywhere! Some of us choose not to shelter our kids. Mine knew at a very young age, not to drink or eat anything that wasn't hers..


>>>How do those people feel when everyone around their children is smoking pot and their children are breathing the smoke? They just look like irresponsible, selfish parents to me, the type that value a show over their children

Depends on your views of smoking herb. Some of us choose not to hide it from our kids.

>>>Sorry for the rant, but there were so many children at this show, and it really bugged me.

King8, I suggest you start a new thread if you want to get into this. Cause I'll go head to head w/ you on this one..

Our first-born attended her first show at 4 days old!!! Flame Away!!!!

A 2:00pm Phil show at the Frost would have just about the same level of negativity regarding children as would a home Giants baseball game. But at night shows, in smokey theaters, I think the youngsters should stay at home with a baby-sitter just as they should for a nasty Yankees home game. It can get ugly out there.

what about allowing all the children and banning you-King88;), I would always prefer being around a family, a good vibe, people who get it, rather than someone like you...projecting all your fears and ignorance on others and dropping your shrooms all over the place.

And then again, maybe King88 has a valid point in that some ( read some) parents shouldn't bring kids to shows. I've heard the people who question bringing kids to shows acknowledge that outdoor shows with observant parents can be cool. Do any of you parents who bring kids acknowledge that late night, indoor, smokey shows might indeed be inappropriate for kids, or that some parents at shows very truly aren't doing right by their kids depending on what kind of show experience they facilitate?

I know when I'm at a show and my ears start feeling compressed during the first set because of volume, I worry about the condition of newborn's and young children's ears. Any scientific data on kids getting their hearing messed up from being at shows or am I worrying needlessly?

2002/06/02 00:19:56 37.878N 122.265W 9.4 1 km ( 1 mi) NE of Berkeley, CA
The above coordinates is for the Berkeley Earthquake right after the second Greek show. If my on-line atlas is correct, the epicenter was diirectly under UCB. I guess LESSTHAN was looking at a different section of California. Kudos to LESSTHAN for checking it out! BTW, both of my children were "flowered" at early ages (4 and 3 1/2, one at The Greek, and one at Frost. That was almost 20 years ago now, and I can remember both shows like yesterday. No words can describe the purest of love between father and child when together and surrounded by "family". I feel sorry for those who may never understand that feeling, but instead look only for their own personal gratification.

CraigH wrote
No words can describe the purest of love between father and child when together and surrounded by "family". I feel sorry for those who may never understand that feeling, but instead look only for their own personal gratification.

I couldn'y agree with ya more. I took my daughter to her first show when sh was 12 and eshe was sooooo eager to go the next night. But the most beautiful thing is that I took her to her most recents shows also: P&F in Vail both nights. She's now 23 and just as flabbergasted.
She immediately nailed it by saying, "This is as good as it gets, dad".
The show dates were perfectly serendipitous as she was visiting from London at the exact time of the shows. Her girlfriend who came along was by hew own admission a dead virgin asnd after night one she said, "I think I got it".
As Craig said, there's something special about going to a show with your kid(s).
"laughing water"
dyerwolf

OK, PULLING MY HEAD OT OF MY ASS. From what I gather here, the parents don't see a show like the recent Frost show as an unsafe environment for their children, therefore, they take them. I probably could have figured that out on my own without starting a flame here, sorry. IMO, intoxicated people and children don't mix, but MO matters not as I'm not king of the world (yet) nor am I a parent.

All of you folks who are ranting about the kids at shows need to take your false arguments elsewhere. The Frost was the perfect setting for the entire family. And clearly many people agree. Many Phans were into the scene way before they thought of having children ( and probably before you were)and now want to share in the spirit that is part of their soles. If you dont like what you find at a show find another scene. There is something for everyone at an outdoor show - especially the Frost. The music is what brings us all together not maintaining your buzz and feeling like an idiot in front of children. Maybe the naysayers should try to enjoy a show without worrying about how many drugs they are taking and who is watching. Sounds like you are paranoid. By the way at the Saturday Greek show I noticed at one point that the entire back stage left was full with kids (probably Phil and Jill's and their friends). I thought that was pretty cool. The next time I bring my kids to a show I hope they point out what fools you are and how you need to get a life. I respect your scene and you should respect ours. Of course we all need to be responsible no matter what we do or where we go.

He's come to take his children home...

By the way KIng GO on home your mammas callin you.

hey CraigH (Cheden)

I guess at first glance I just didn't realize how far apart longitudinal lines were.

When I went to that site and saw another quake right after the frost show..I guess part of it was wishful thinking that it happened twice. Once at the greek and once at frost.

Still want to look real close at a map just for kicks can you send me that link for your online thing?

I really want it to be close enough to the frost to make both show earth shattering...haha

So what do the last few posts have to do with reviewing this show besides ruining this post with bickering about children?You people need to get on topic!(I cant believe i just said that!!!)

Would the next person who posts here please talk about the music that took place at Palo Alto instead of all this. I think most people who click this subject are wanting to hear about the music from the frost and not the speculation that some kid might get a face full of second hand smoke.

A couple more Frost things that I've remembered now...

Phil's wife was off stage left and was watching the end of the show. After the Franklin's that ended the second set, Phil, went to her and they totally made out! You could see that he was so happy to play at the Frost and his wife was so happy seeing Phil be so happy!

Also, during "Lovelight," Warren was flipping the pages of his music book and then kind of gave an "aw fuck it!" look and shrug and just closed the book and started wailing!

The more I think about it, I could never go to another concert of any kind and be happy that my last show was the Frost show.

LET IT SHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree but some things need to be said.

RIPPLE

Did anyone notice Molo singing back-up on Shakedown Street?

The vibe at the show was electric. My favorite part of the show was the LSD>Good Lovin end of the first set. Smokin'

Chris

>>>>From what I gather here, the parents don't see a show like the recent Frost show as an unsafe environment for their children, therefore, they take them. I probably could have figured that out on my own without starting a flame here, sorry.

No prob King8. I wouldn't have responded if you had only briefly mentioned your dislike of kids at shows, but your entire review was about it.

>>>The music is what brings us all together not maintaining your buzz and feeling like an idiot in front of children.

Dr.J, BINGO!!!

>>>So what do the last few posts have to do with reviewing this show besides ruining this post with bickering about children?

Rev Greene, your right. King8 or anyone who has views on this topic feel free to join the thread "Take your kids to shows?" in the Other section. Now really, do any threads ever stay on the original topic? :*)

I brought my baby girl to Red Rocks last summer with the intention of Phil being her first show. Someday she can tell her buddies what her first show was and have the tapes to listen to. My wife and her friend sat at the top, for volume reasons, and I made frequent trips from the taper section to visit. For me personally, this was an evening to remember. As far as 18+, I saw my first Dead show in '78 at 13. I would have been kinda angry if I had to wait until '83. By that time I was full on.

Can someone describe the stage backdrop Frost had back in the eighties? It was kind of stark this time around, with them playing on a back-less concrete landing pad in a dell, but kind of refreshing.

Did anyone else see the Wookie Olympics during the second set, on the sidewalk right behind the soundboard? It began with two tall, tanned, blond, scantily-clad, well-zoned wookie males performing an undulating dance which involved holding each other's feet in the air and slithering over one another, which was quite entertaining in itself. However, these gyrations served as a beacon which slowly attracted every well-leathered flailer in the amphitheater, and a rather large mosh of show-offs ensued.

perhaps this is what happens to people who are taken to too many theater shows as children?

I couldnt hear any of the sound problems from Jimmy's side of the stage in front of the board ... there was a taper a few feet from me, so hopefully something sweet soundin will show up

Yeah, Bud E. Green, I'm with you on declaring Friday night Greek to be one of the best ever!! What a gem!! Started gentle but not at all tentative, pulling out that great chestnut Acadian as a set opener was genius, and away we go! The journey from there to Viola Lee was outstanding! I'm using too many exclamation marks, but I just can't help it. Second set was pretty good too.

On an unrelated note, I don't really have an opinion on the children at shows debate, but I did notice the group of kids on stage that someone referred to. They were behind Rob Barroco and seemed to having a blast -- jumping around, making jokes about peole in the audience, etc.

can someone who went to the frost identify the winton marsalis tunes played during the set break for me?

Vernon, I don't recall what Wynton Marsallis they were playing, but I do recall them playing MoDeReKo (molo's band).

I agree with the guy above. In my opinion, rock concerts are not a good place for small children. The noise, the crowds, the irresponsibly and sometimes dangerous behavior of drunks, etc. But, hey if that's what you want to do, they're your kids and it's not against the law but please be aware that it BOTHERS some people to see children running around at rock concerts.

I don't blame you for being righteous. After all you are the parent. But frankly, it's disturbing to see very young children and infants at shows sometimes.

Thanks Gravy !!!!!!!!!
Could there be a better place to see a show.....
Love the trees !!!!!!!

Didn't mean for the image to be so big...! Yes, loved the Frost. Sorry we didn't meet up, Carl, but I'll look for you again next time.

Here's to many more shows at the Frost!

time to dust off the " FatMan rocks" t shirt, eh?

Hey GravyTrain, I can see myself in that last picture you posted... the girl with glasses staring to her right is my girlfriend Christine, I'm the mop of hair beside her! Thanks a lot for posting that.

Great, great, great show... re: the dropout problems with the sound, I was at the front on Warren's side and they were VERY noticeable during the first set. I couldn't believe they let it go on all set but maybe they just didn't know how bad it was from the board.


Ollie

> I couldn't believe they let it go on all set but maybe they just didn't know how bad it was from the board.

i couldn't believe it either ollie. i was standing right in front of the board. there's no way they couldn't have heard it. unfortunately, the frost was the worst sound mix i've ever heard at a phil show.

I think I'm just to the left in that picture. Very nice...better than the throw-away camera we had!

I heard the dropouts at Frost as well and with the tapers up in the stratasphere at the Greek, I'm thinking the Pheonix show I was also at may be the best sounding tape of the four shows I got to see.

peace...

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