Whats the deal with this place. I've never been. Apparently it's a dry venue? Does lot scene suck?

Anyone know the order, timing for Jones ?? Thx

The lot is really cool. Drinks in a cup.

Duo at 5.

Trey, Mike and Duo at 5:30

Phil & Friends at 8:30

According too: http://www.mike-gordon.com/tour/

Dry inside not out. Several parking areas - usually a big vending seen. Love this venue when the weather is good. Right on the water.

its technically in a NY State park, so that is why no alcohol

(same thing with spac but they have a "beer garden", and dont care about drinking in the lot)

it is very beautiful, and the weather tomorrow night looks to be nice!

Help>Slip>China Doll to open second set

Watchtower>Stephen closed the first set, all with Trey on guitar

tomorrow Im looking for CRYPTICAL > other one, dark star, etc... it's been a while for those tunes, no?

Cups in the lot... can't stress that enough, folks. Nice scene tho - and the weather looks saweeeeeeeeeeeeetttt!

WHO ELSE IS GONNA BRING *US*

A BOTTLE OF RAIN??...


THEEEERE PHIL GOOOOOES


GRROOOOOVING ACROOOOSSSS THE WAAAAATER

NEW YORK LOVES YOU PHIL!!!!

now how about dropping a New Potato on us

...:::SLESSH IS MORE:::...

its definitely been a while since dark star, but at this point I hope hes saving it for Bethel.

a cryptical>TOO would be nice, and a broken arrow too no doubt..

im guessing a terrapin, and maybe a New York, New York opener or encore

YES! A NASTY-NASTY OTHER 1 WOULD BE INSANE

The lack of lawn to soak up the bombs is the coolest thing about JB..

Phil's bass bouncing off all that concrete, steel and water sets the standard for summer tour sickness

Anyone with extras for tonight?

Hey, anyone from Brooklyn that can give me a ride to JB tonight? Will buy gas or beverages.
e-mail me at macmcdave@earthlink.net
I suspect the bus from Freeport will be packed. If you can help it would be most appreciated.

one extra for tonight. i will be at the show. 631 235 8787

i have one extra for tonight. i will be at the show. 631 235 8787

OK, watching and waiting from Philly, PA. Hoping for another maniac/hypomaniac to post from JB.

Can't wait for MM, Scranton, PA!!!!

It should be starting soon!

playin'

ruben & cherise I am sorry it is not in order

hey thanks, we'll take any info we can get

Sugaree ended the 1st set. but there are a lot of songs in between that are missing my friends are prett toasty by now. i wish i was there!!

scarlet

OHHHHHH the Scarlet! Thought i might catch it in Bethel.....Oh well. I hope they do Fire at this point for the enjoyment of those who are there. Like my brother!...Thanks Fabbs

no problem i have not heard any thing in awhile it is probably going off right now at jones bch!!

list??

scarlet>fire>dark star>other one

why is there no updates ?

scarlet>fire>dark star>other one>stella blue

nice

scarlet>fire>dark star>other one>stella blue>nfa

wowzers! so sad I missed this one

hey duane thanks hell of a 2nd set so far! do you have the 1st set?

is this real - who sang stella?

hope it was joan - trey seems like a stretch - maybe rob?

joan sang stella

i would say joan

encore: us blues

this came from another board, so i'm taking their word for it. we'll see soon enough

what about the 1st set

Awaiting first set and encore updates and second set confirmation. Was it Barry for the 1st Set and Trey for the 2nd set again?

Phil Lesh & Friends
July 7, 2006
Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Wantaugh, New York

1st Set (Partial)

Playing In The Band
Reuben & Cherise
Sugaree

2nd Set

Scarlet Begonias>
Fire On The Mountain>
Dark Star>
The Other One>
Stella Blue>
Not Fade Away

trey for second, also a china cat in the first set.

encore was us blues

Geez, you'd think Trey would just become a member of Phil and Friends. What a thought, eh?

So it's starting to come together. How does this China Cat placement look? Did Barry just play in the first set or both? Was Trey on the encore? The first set still looks like it's missing at least one tune, and the second looks a little thin too.

Phil Lesh & Friends
July 7, 2006
Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Wantaugh, New York

1st Set (Partial)

Playing In The Band>
China Cat Sunflower
Reuben & Cherise
Sugaree

2nd Set (w/Trey Anastasio)

Scarlet Begonias>
Fire On The Mountain>
Dark Star>
The Other One>
Stella Blue>
Not Fade Away

Donor Rap/Intros
U.S. Blues

there must have been some long jams going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

someone said scarlet>fire was 30 minutes alone. plus probably a good twenty for dark star.

wow!

work up rueben and add drums space - and that's a great 1979 show

Is it just me, reading these set lists, or are Phil and Friends shows getting shorter? Case in point, look at the set list from last February's shows at the Hammerstein, where they played 'til 1 in the morning. I find it hard to beleive Joan wants to hang on stage as the boys noodle and jam out.

Phil Lesh & Friends
July 7, 2006
Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Wantagh, New York

1st Set (Partial)

Playing In The Band>
China Cat Sunflower
Reuben & Cherise w/ FOTD / UJB lead-in tease (more FOTD), nice Joan vocals, LC on mandolin
Big River *LC vocals and telecaster (strat rest of night)
Sugaree

2nd Set (w/Trey Anastasio)

Scarlet Begonias> slow pace, TA vocals, both his voice and guitar too "whispy" for my taste
Fire On The Mountain> much better, Phil, Joan, TA vox, no Rob
Dark Star> Phil, Joan, LC, TA (I think) vox
The Other One> TA adds some creepy crawly sounds before the coming around line in the end, no gigantic Phil bombs, but many many small hits and runs that were pretty insnae. vox delivered in that stutter style Phil's been using lately, LC on fiddle
Stella Blue> @ great joan vox, my highlight, jam into Stella sounded like the section towards the end of RA's Nobody Girl % lenghty breakdown jam in the middle, I've never heard this arrangement before, TA's guitar all spacey while LC's had a Rolling Stones "Winter" tone going on...reenter Stella at "dust off those rusty strings" verse
Not Fade Away

Donor Rap/Intros (sless not announced)
U.S. Blues - OK, but never really hit compared to rest of show, they had to rsh to get it in before midnight

feel free to edit, may not be complete or correct

Dave...

They are sharing the stage...

Shows will get longer once they head off on their own....

no sless second set : (

so did they also do let it ride in the first set?
that's what i'm hearing

FOTM no rob on vox, he did play keys

Back from the show. First set ok, second set different band. Second set rocked. By the way, Phil sang another song in the first set (not yet listed above).

Steve,
I know there's an opening act on this run, it just seems that the P&F set lists look short. I hope I'm mistaken in my assesment.

I dont think shows are getting shorter - the jams are getting longer. was at camden, Terrapin>Saint Stephen>The Eleven took close to 90 minutes. 15 minutes before you knew it was Terrapin. Great shows if you like the Jams, a little more discordant than we're used to b/c of the Trey influence. Very fun.

yup!

CORRECTION:

Phil Lesh & Friends
July 7, 2006
Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Wantagh, New York

1st Set (Partial)

Playing In The Band>
China Cat Sunflower
Let It Ride *RA tune, Phil on vocals, smoking, very drivey (may be out of sequence)
Reuben & Cherise w/ FOTD / UJB lead-in tease (more FOTD), nice Joan vocals, LC on mandolin
Big River *LC vocals and telecaster (strat rest of night)
Sugaree

2nd Set (w/Trey Anastasio, no sless)

Scarlet Begonias> slow pace, TA vocals, both his voice and guitar too "whispy" for my taste
Fire On The Mountain> much better, Phil, Joan, TA vox, no vox verse from rob
Dark Star> Phil, Joan, LC, TA (I think) vox
The Other One> TA adds some creepy crawly sounds before the coming around line in the end, no gigantic Phil bombs, but many many small hits and runs that were pretty insnae. vox delivered in that stutter style Phil's been using lately, LC on fiddle
Stella Blue> @ great joan vox, my highlight, jam into Stella sounded like the section towards the end of RA's Nobody Girl % lenghty breakdown jam in the middle, I've never heard this arrangement before, TA's guitar all spacey while LC's had a Rolling Stones "Winter" tone going on...reenter Stella at "dust off those rusty strings" verse
Not Fade Away

Donor Rap/Intros (sless not announced)
U.S. Blues - OK, but never really hit compared to rest of show, they had to rsh to get it in before midnight

1st set rocked in my opinion

trey adds more playing the guitar than he does on vocals...once again, my opinion...great for the phish fans, but really doesn't do much for me when he carries an entire dead tune like scarlet

phil in good voice tonight

Nice post John, great detail! So the Big River was the missing first set tune, but that was it, huh? The second set sounds like it was pretty jammed out and that looks like a tight little show I would have enjoyed the hell out of.

Steve, which shows does Phil have announced that aren't co-billed with the Duo? Louisville, Starlight in K.C.? What's Phil going to do after 10,000 Lakes? I'd settle for one of these mini-shows at this point, but it would be fun for Phil to bring this band to the West.

PS

not a fan of huge monitors when showing 40 foot high images of trey's guitar face...I know it's irrelevant to the music, but damn is that distracting...like a giant near sighted chipmunk is jamming with the band

now JOAN on the other hand...

hi dave

also note the addition of "Let It Ride", which Phil sang...big round of cheering and applause at the conclusion

Big river also had my section up and rocking

yes, second set had some insane jams, the type that force most people into their seats, real heavy and spacey stuff!

show was very good
very tight

first set was good
short set break

scarlet fire was 31 minutes
second set was rocking the house
every song was perfect

show ended at 4 seconds to midnight

joan nailed ruben ....


interview with phil was great (40 minutes)
ocean was awesome


great day all around

tom

I'm thinking about it, and I'm not sure I put that jam I heard as "Nobody Girl" in the right place...but I did hear it as such somewhere

If you've never been there, and can.....Starlight in KC is one of the great venues the Dead used to play.

I thought they seemed floundering around not sure which direction they were going during a good portion of the first set. Seemed to me much tighter in the second set. Also not convinced that Osby is a good fit. I don't think he always comes in at the right moments.

I liked Osby, but thought the sound mix was not so great during the first half of the 1st set...phil's bass was great from the beginning, as well as everyone's vocals, also thought Rob's organ was good, but the keys a little low, Osby started off low, then I began hearing him better and also appreciating his sound more, both guitars were difiicult at first, I actually had to use the monitors in the beginng to "lead" my ear into the sounds, they finally came up in the mix, but seemingly as one voice, hard to distinguish which guitar at times, partly due to sless's sometimes non-traditional pedal steel work (using effects and such), towards the second half, I found the mix all around to be greatly improved, however I had problems with molo's drums the entire 1st set, they were always audible and powerful, but with a noticable decay in my section, as if only half the sound was reaching it

none of these problems existed in the second set in my section...but I do think Trey's vocals lack a certain something and while an accomplished player, his guitar tone pales in comparison to LC's and the much-missed Sless...why not use all three guitarists?? At least on some songs...

Ryan Adams at the Beacon last week had two electic guitars and a pedal steel..it sounded great and would only be a benefit to Phil's sound, as far as I can tell (much different than Weir / Haynes / Herring of 04)

and why no Sless introduction?

I've seen lots of scarlet/fire's over the years (hearing some of the best during the late 70s), with tonight's scarlet/fire also ranking pretty damn high and a keeper. I thought Trey nailed it.

>>>40 ft. images of Trey's guitar face...

Too funny.

Stellar show, although Stella had a bit of a train wreck at the break. Tempo change, came to a complete stop, then started again.

Everything else was off the hook. Totally sick show. Loved Let it Ride.(RA tune???)

If you pass on Vermont you will be sorrry.

If you pass on Vermont you will be sorrry.

Okay, just got back, here is the setlist, I promise absolutely precise:

Set 1 (with Barry):
Playin' In The Band >
China Cat Sunflower >
Reuben & Cherise >
Let It Ride (RA)
Big River >
Sugaree

Set 2 (with Trey):
Scarlet Begonias >
Fire on the Mountain >
Dark Star >
The Other One >
Stella Blue >
Not Fade Away
E:
Donor Rap
U.S. Blues

Notes on singing (and playing):
Playin' - Rob
China Cat - Rob
R&C - Joan (no Osby, Larry on mandolin)
Let It Ride - Phil, Joan backup (no Osby)
Big River - Larry, Joan backup (no Osby)
Sugaree - Joan
Scarlet - Trey
Fire - V1:Phil; V2:Joan; V3:Trey
Dark Star - Phil;Joan;Larry (that order)
Other One - Phil (Larry on fiddle)
Stella - Joan (no Osby)
NFA - All (no Osby)
U.S. Blues - Rob

As for the odd Stella, it seemed to me (I was sitting 4th row on the right side) that they lost teleprompter ability sometime in the second set after Fire. Phil had absolutely no clue what the words were supposed to be in TOO, he was even laughing as he tried to make up parts he remembered ("...trembles and explodes"). Then Joan seemed to completely forget the words to Stella right in the middle of the bridge and stepped back and just sort of hugged herself as she tried to find her place; the band entered a kind of confused jam without her which actually turned out to be superb, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't planned at all, as they almost stopped completely and then started again in a weird key and rhythm, whilc Joan just sort of hugged herself near the back of the stage; finally she got her bearings and returned where she'd left off, with the line "Dust off those rusty strings...." She finished it out great, then left the stage for the first verse of NFA, probably to collect herself. Phil was clearly looking backstage and trying to get her to come back at the beginning of NFA but couldn't quite. Then there was almost no break before the encore because the extra time on Stella was threatening to put them over their midnight curfew. Now I'm not in the band so I can't prove that that's what happened, but it seemed pretty unequivocally clear from where I was sitting that Joan lost the thread of Stella, which didn't really hurt the song much (since spontaneously changing things by accident is as Dead as you can get) but obviously shook her up a bit. In fact I was just coming here to see what you guys thought about it!

By the way this was a truly great show. This whole tour has seemed ridiculously good to me, and last night was I thought the best post-PLQ show I've seen. Bravo to this band. Trey is annoying as all fuck but he plays a great guitar. And the best part is, everyone seems to be having a good time, there's no bickering or complaining, not even here among us whiners. However, if you look at any Phish or Trey message boards, you'll see the kind of bitching and arguing that we're all so used to over here. It's fun to be, for a change, the mature ones. Here's to that, and enjoy the rest of the tour, everybody!

Feedback was played (on BIG BROWN) after Dark Star I beleive.

Trey is the heir apparent-maybe sless but definitely Trey. I LOVE LC as the 2nd guitar player-great texture player totally an in the mix kinda player. 2 different bands.During Ruben and Cherise there was no one playin guitar! Thats gotta be a live dead first
2nd set band with TREY was wiiiiild.
Hadda listen to some Joan bashing-wot r these people talkin about-she is the Peaches!
how kum phil forgets to mention slees?
dyin to hear sless and trey play guitar tgether
Beautiful hang tnite too under the hazy moon
Thanks Phil

yeah, after other one, phil busted out big brown. never really played it though. he still had his normal guitar slung across his back. he just held big brown up against the speaker and waved it around for a few minutes for feedback. then stella blue. full review tomorrow. just got home ...

Following up on the Stella weirdness, my take (from 10th row center) was that the band built up to the bridge/crescendo and Joan belted out (really well I might add) the first line of bridge verse ("I've stayed at every blue-light..."). Phil's semi-violent reaction to this made me think that *Phil* thought she hit that verse too early. I think maybe Phil wanted to build more slowly up to the bridge. It seemed to me that perhaps Phil scolded Joan or something (through the in-ear monitors?) as she immediately backed way off and appeared to sulk at first, but then started seeming kind of pissed (like maybe she felt that Phil hung her out to dry by not just going through with the verse since she and the rest of the band were already 50% in?). There was a very clear tension on stage at this point as Phil led the band into an 8-or-so-minute loop around back to the bridge again. Phil signalled Joan and she stepped up to the mic and (to Phil's surprise?) went straight into the second line of the verse ("dust off those rusty strings..."). After all this, Joan left the stage, but the band quickly segued into NFA, and Joan missed the entire first verse. When she came running out in time for the second verse she was giving Phil kind of a combo "OK, you got me" and "I can't believe you started w/o me" looks. They seemed to be fine after that, but the band never again found the magic that it had displayed in the first half of set II. The Scarlet->Fire->Dark Star was some of the nastiest, sickest music I've seen in many moons. Seriously NEXT LEVEL!

"the best post-PLQ show I've seen."

I guess I just didn't get it last night. Excellent show in parts, but there was something about the flow or lack of it. Maybe it was structured more like an old PLQ show--and I prefer the "new" Phil and Friends more. My daughter and friend who probably like the old Q more, did love the show. I preferred Holmdel much more..and to get 3 repeats in the first set didn't sit well with me.

Buy hey..there are no bad shows..some are just better than others. And it was a fine night at Jones, and I met some nice peeps, so that's OK. Resting up today, then its off to Bethel tomorrow.

As for Trey's band..I didn't stick around for them at Holmdel, if they just stuck to jamming and rock based songs, I think they would be much better. The beginning and end of their set was good, but the middle section was god awful! I was sitting next to Phish fans, and they agreed with me too!

Sam L.

Sounds like another great show.

I saw that type of interaaction between Joan and Phil, with the look on both their faces several times during the February tour.

I think they played longer shows on the Feb tour in great part because they weren't running all over the place. Just NYC, Providence and Philly. Not too exhausting. Compare that to their road trip this time, for example Holmdel to Saratoga to Hartford to Mansfield to Wantaugh to Darien to Bethel to Vemont to Scranton. I bet those of you following this whole tour are getting a bit winded yourselves.

Phil and the band seem to be holding up really well. And loving every moment of it. If shorter shows keeps them better shows, I'll take that, for sure. Remember how the GD looked, not just Jerry, toward the end of the tours from the late 1970s onward? Beat up, tired, voices more or less gone.

Thanks for the great reviews and audience recordings.

See you at Scranton.

"the best post-PLQ show I've seen."

eh...I'd rank it way down on the list of NJPAC / Beacon / Hammerstein / Albany / Tower shows I saw in 05 / 06

"The Scarlet->Fire->Dark Star was some of the nastiest, sickest music I've seen in many moons. Seriously NEXT LEVEL!"

I'll agree on Fire > DS, but definitely not Scarlet...TA's a nice "guest", but no way does his "singing" add anything to scarlet, same for his guitar playing...no kick!

But that's why these reviews are good, I'll think about the comments I don't agree w/ at Bethel

I had 12th row center orchestra, have been to lots of the Phil shows with Joan, and didn't see any tension between Joan and Phil. First, everyone out there that wasn't at JB should know that even with some of the Stella strangeness, Stella still rocked. Once again Joan singing from the heart and you felt it. I think the rest of the band took a wrong turn, almost stopped playing during a Stella jam (which is why Joan wasn't standing next to the mike)and then Phil gave the word to all to keep going and built up the train again in a wonderful jam. The look on Joan's face wasn't tension or anger at anyone, but more like, "hey guys, what are you doing, don't stop know, I want to finish this awesome song?" And she did. The first set had some good moments. Let It Ride was even fun with Phil singing. But the 2nd set was truly tight and had moments where it just couldn't get any better.

Also, I got to the parking lot very early. What a great time. Cops didn't bother you unless you bothered them. Weather was perfect and everyone was so clearly happy to be there and friendly as usual.

Phil looks great and still seems to love playing. You can really see the smile on his face especially when a jam is right on the money. I hope this bus keeps going because the thought of ever having to get off is brutal...

I love reading all these reviews. Thanks, guys (and girls?). Reading all the nuances is great fun, and gives me a good basis for deciding what recordings to seek out.

Some random thoughts: I think the shows being shorter has a lot to do with the double bills. The "marketing" was saying that they'd be playing "full-length shows", so they shortened them from the get-go, even before Trey joined the tour.

OK... I just am not a big Trey fan. His singing makes Phil sound like Eddie Vedder, in comparison, and while his guitar playing interests me in small spurts, after around the 5th minute of a Trey solo I begin to nod off. I also find he dominates Larry too much. I found the Beacon 2/12 show to be perhaps the weakest of the 5 shows I saw in February (I SO would rather have had the 2/11 Warren show released as a dsbd), so I can't say I'm beating myself up about not seeing these shows. I intentionally opted to see a couple Sco shows, and will see Chicago: very psyched to see the "normal" band!

Not to beat a dead horse, but I saw that look on Joan's face as she exited the Beacon stage door after the 02152006 show. Jill and Phil exited just before that with sour looks, IMHO.

Who cares? Not me. I think we all know that Phil is a perfectionist, and I am sure that drives a lot of those people around him crazy.

Phil is Phil, and this is Phil and Friends.

I am confident that if the GD was still playing and Phil and Friends were also playing, I would be enjoying the Phil and Frinds more, and going to both.

If you don't like the chef or the food, don't go to the reastaurant.

"I am confident that if the GD was still playing and Phil and Friends were also playing, I would be enjoying the Phil and Frinds more, and going to both"

Um...... I'm not sure there would be a Phil and friends if there was a GARCIA Grateful Dead. Matter a fact, not sure if Phil would have any material to play if there were a GD?

P.S. I LOVED the "and girls?"

my take on the "weirdness" in stella blue:

this happened after larry finished (beautifully) his solo in stella blue - trey immediately hit a couple of high notes on this guitar and phil stepped up to the mike and said something in his muted-band-only mode. Trey stopped playing instantly, Molo missed a beat or two, and then phil started putting the song back together.
It was a brief, momentary stumble - joan definitely looked confused at that point, because I think that is probably where they rehearsed her coming back in.

But, my take is that phil said something to trey along the lines of "no solo from you right now, my boy" and the band sort of lost the flow at that point and phil then proceeded to put the band back together - frankly, it would have been a great moment to have joan come roaring back in with the vocals - which is probably how phil and the band had rehearsed it - a tight transition after larry's solo back into the vocals - but trey wasnt there for those rehearsals, of course, so the "hired pros" who are used to tight rehearsals lost their footing for a moment.

that's what I will be listening for on the cd, anyways.

On Trey:

Trey's presence adds a great element of free-form to the jams, plus he is the only guitarist I have ever seen play with phil (or the dead) that is willing to play EXACT JERRY licks at length in jams. It is like all the other guitarists go (went) out of their way to avoid being a "jerry-imitation" but Trey looks like he is dying to play jerry stuff note-for-note. Listen to Scarlet begonias on this show - at times Trey's playing is 100% jerry - even the tone sounds like jerry's guitar.

I think Trey is a fantastic addition to this band, cause he is "raising the dead" - but at times he looks like he wants to just take over the whole direction. oh well, he is the "next-in-line" so I guess that's his right.

On this tour, its clear the shows with Trey will be the one people talk about - cant wait for woodstock

ALSO VERY COOL AT JOANS BEACH:

GRAB played Uncle Albert from wings - mike sang it, it was fantastic - trey did the spoken word part through a bullhorn

...we're so sorry, uncle albert, but

we haven't done a bloody thing all day...

Grubby:
I agree it seems most ax players are to intimidated to step up and rip a Jerry riff (or unable to do it?).

Nobody wants a DSO imitation, but those are the licks for the songs we love.

Here Here Grubs.

RD never does it, listening to Bob singing Dark Star is like drinking liquid pyrex, and the RD guitar player is just awful awful awful.

random thoughts; Phil has been playing GREAT this tour (no surprise but worth noting) and he and Molo are great combination; they both have had huge grins for much of the 5 concerts i've attended.....i've enjoyed trey but when he is there Larry and Barry (when they let him stay) just don't get to play solos and i prefer their sounds to trey's....trey and Osby have had some wonderful,short, nose to nose 'duets'.....while i realize the uniquiness of having trey playing and osby too, i personally hope that this is the last of it and it goes back to the 'regular' band for the next tour because i thought they had really grown together on the february tour.....Camden 2nd set my personal favorite and that was about 1:45....i liked hartford 2nd set too....and i liked jones beach 2nd set- it was 1:26 so not all sets have been short but curfews with 3 bands doesn't allow as much freedom ....here's hoping for beacon/tower whatever in the fall.....

For my two cents after 30+ yrs of shows.... I thought the first set rocked big time, the band was tight, the jams/solos hit the mark and moved on, and no one has yet mentioned that LC's finger picking version of Big River kicked ass! Definitely a highlight for me.

The second set started out great with Scarlet/Fire, and I want to hear Dark Star and TOO as much as anyone, but I think that much of the middle section of the second set lacked focus, the band members weren't connecting as well as they could, and from my section in the orchestra, during much of Dark Star through Stella the energy died way down. Once the classic opening lines of Dark Star were finished I though the band just muddled around in jams that sounded too much like many other jams, there was nothing distinctive about it at all, and then Phil forgot the lyrics to TOO . . .

All that said, however, for my money, there's no other band that can touch what Phil does on any given night.

MDW I'm on board with you, and perhaps it's because my show history gos back as your does. I, personally, DON'T think the rest of the players are enjoying Trey - he's not connecting with them, he wants to connect with the audience and watch how his 'wild sounds' send an audience - and the jams lack focus because the BAND is not GOING SOMEPLACE. I think the train wreck in stella was a blown transition into the Millenium Jam - I think that's what that section was trying to be, and that it was planned for between Stella verses, but they pulled it together and made the transition out to Joan's last verse. I still love what Phil is putting on stage - without a net we can expect these things, and that's real improv.

My two cents - You know that the show is going to kick-ass when Phil put on Coltrane before the show. The first set was amazing! Greg Osby during the Sugaree was worth the price of admission. LC and Sless on Big River, Phil on that RA tune - spectacular.

As for when Trey sat in, one of the earlier posts said discordant. That's a polite way of saying it. I've stated my thoughts on Trey in the Hartford thread - my comments there I think are indisputably confirmed, case closed. New nickname for Trey - Jam-kill.

Still a fun time. Even with the 40' guitar face on the monitors. I never saw the movie, but I would imagine that the big screen man-on-man open mouth kiss in brokeback mountain is probably just as painful to see.

i was at the show...amazing venue..got some beach time in hung in the lot then the show. i agree 100% with mdw above as to second set ...although still was alot of fun...i thought first set was very tight very hot great songs that were all nailed ..joan belted out ruben and cherise the let it ride song was cookin with phil sounding as good as i ever heard him and the big river quite franky may have been the highlight larry was absolutely awesome and the entire band cooked...never thought of big river as a highlight song in all years of dead shows but it was hot well played and alot of fun. had a great night and the band looked llike they were having a blast too... i also thought joan lost her place in stella and asked my buddy who thought it was intentional even though i thought it was an odd break but it was still fun to hear a stella...also trey does look like a cartoon character from jimmy neutron when up on the big screen...quite amusing.....rock on phil

As the band was gearing up to go into Stella Phil brought the jam way down and was setting up the first chord when Baracco started the changes a couple of measures too early... and he really stated those opening Stella chords much to Phil's dismay. Mr. L stepped towards RB and nodded his head at him to stop playing which he did mid expression. Then when it came around Phil and Friends started the tune properly. Joan sang the song beautifully... I thought she was going to cry... I felt Jerry during the lyrical "Stella Blue" part... is that the infinite blue space that we are all in? Anyway, splitting up the Cheap Hotel and Rusty Strings part was way cool... intended or not. The jam felt orchestrated and directional in a way you wouldn't expect.
The first set had great momentum right from the beginning... Playin' was flawless and the transition to Chinacat was as smooth as could be. Osby shone on that one... and the Other One... Phil's execution of Let It Ride was superb.. singing and playing... and the band was spectacular on Ruben. They played seamlessly through Playin'>China>Ruben>Let It Ride.... WOW! What a flow of time and harmony. The China Cat was really tight and hot... everyone nailed the changes. Ruben too... beautiful arrangement. Joan's winning hearts... Sugaree had some old time GD flavor to it and some really nice harmonic work by Phil. What a bass player, conductor and transmitter.

Oh and Barraco's singing on Playin' was right on.... he sure gets excited during some of those jams...

My take on Stella Blue:

Phil's been talking a lot about playing a "deconstructive" sytle (especially with RA) I think Stella was an intentional experiment with that approach. It seems they completely stopped... then Molo, then Phil started with very basic notes, everyone came in slowly, came together, built back up, and Joan nailed it. After the song ended, my assumption was that the whole thing was intentional.

agree wholeheartedly with rob...only thing he left out was all that being said and being said exactly as i saw it /heard it i still believe big river was the highlight and campbell was just awesome throughout it ...band was just so tight and the energy incredible...and as i stated before ..coming from 30 years of shows...never thought i would think big river as a highlight song...by the way i checked out phil lesh and his panel for his oral history project in the parking lot before show. my buddy was picked for the panel and i was lucky enough to get there early in jones beach lot at 2 pm . let me tell you they let us listen from like 10 feet away the staff was ultra cool and phil was just so genuine. he was so loving so real and so easy to be around. thats why we love hima nd teh bandso much.showed no pretenses whatsoever except for his extreme intelligence. his exuberance for his fans/family clearly translates on stage as well as youcould see him laughing and smilling and having fun playing all night

I just wanted to post a note for those folks out there who like to use these reviews to determine whether or not to seek out a "tape" of a particular show. This show is a scorcher right up through the Other One.

Further comments on the set II breakdown...
Phil's Bobbyzation of the Other One lyrics sucked the wind out of everyone's sails, Phil included. Crowd energy never recovered. In the first verse I just laughed it off, as did Phil (judging by the video monitors). It was the "oh well, nobody's perfect" attitude, no biggie. But then when he butchered (too nice a word) the second verse, you could tell from his facial expressions on the video and his breaking voice that he was clearly upset. I concur with the "teleprompter was broken" scenario. That's why Phil couldn't call up the Other One words (It wasn't an issue of "how do I fit these words I am reading into the song structure," you could tell he was searching his memory banks for the words while trying to play his bass at the same time. When they didn't come he gave it the old college try and tried to get the "content" of the verse out...just with different words. You could tell, it was more painful to Phil than to anyone else.)When Baracco started to go into the Stella, Phil cut him off. My guess is he was waiting for the Stella to show up on the teleprompter and it wasn't there yet. I can't think of any other reason. Then there was the later Stella debacle mentioned in the above reviews. It was just so unnatural to abort the stella right before the "rusty strings" crescendo line. Then that clutzy interlude in the middle of the song before Joan started singing again...think "lost kid looking for his mommy." They certainly didn't seem to be intending to break up Stella a la Nobody Girl as a previous reviewer mentioned.

So, on to the next show. I love this incarnation of Phil's band. Generally, the music has been great. Having no bias for or against Trey, the band clearly loves playing with him and they have made some beautiful, powerful music together. It seems pretty obvious that most comments about him stem more from people's baggage than from an objective view of the music that was actually performed. 7/7 Jones Beach is definitely a good choice for a show to judge his contributions. That Scarlet>Fire>Dark Star was a monster. Enjoy.

That's what makes the world go round...I've been going to GD shows since 77 and know that there's absolutely nothing that can compare to a grateful dead concert from the late 70s. But I'm one that also thinks Trey adds a nice kick to the present crew. Trey has lived with this music forever the way Barocco has. It's in their blood (as it is in mine). I just don't think Larry's guitar work always fits in correctly with the music although I love the flavor he adds with the fiddle, mandolin, etc.

It's obvious from these reviews that we all see and hear these shows differently, which is truly great. Some loved the first set of this show, while others (myself included) loved the second. Bottom line is that spending the day in the lot and then listening to Phil and the present crew was an awesome, awesome day, one that not only will be a highlight of the summer but also will be remembered for many years to come. Hanging with the wife (who doesn't come to as many shows anymore) and constantly bumping into new and old friends throughout the day and night, PRICELESS. All I can say once again is THANK YOU PHIL...

> I, personally, DON'T think the rest of the players are enjoying Trey - he's not connecting with them

Were you watching Trey and Osby during Dark Star and TOO? If that wasn't "connecting", I don't know what is. And the way he and Phil locked up during Fire and pushed each other, I was waiting for one of them to fall down. I'll grant you that Trey is not the ultimate team player, but I think he's finding a pretty cool niche in this band.

intresting thoughts

while I agree Trey is certainly fluid on the guitar and definitely added some interesting texture, I don't think you can describe his tone as anywhere near garcia's

"at times Trey's playing is 100% jerry - even the tone sounds like jerry's guitar."

he may be playing similar riffs or even note for note solos, but when garcia's tone is way fuller with much low end and presence...powerful even in the ballads

Big River was great, I think LC's guitar work does work quite well witht the GD material, it's just a different sound than we're used to from Garcia / Weir...looking forward to Bethel

PS
I would have liked to have seen that Uncle Albert, any chance of a repeat at Bethel or was it a one-off? 3 hours sleep after 26 awake prevented me from reaching the venue early...

Osby is just a temporary addition, I think the comment was referring to the most recent core of Phil's friends...

best song of the night, rueben & cherise-- scarlet>fire was good but phil and the band blew their load after that one

I think Mathew Ruzz nailed it..

RE: the "strange" Other One and Stella Blue ....

I think it was a combination of exhaustion and "Chance Music" (i.e. Ryan Adams style).

Phil has done this before w/Other One, he slows up delivery of each vocal with extended jam in between, then I suspect he was "messing" with the vocals on purpose - i.e. like Adams would do. I think he said "The master bus came by.."?

Then Stella, yes, may have been a cullmination of mistakes and missed cues OR it was Phil's new approach with Chance Music, totally re-arranging parts of the song, the changes, bridge and verses. Furthermore, being that Stella Blue is a song Adams does often, I think this was Phil's Adams version of Stella.

This show overall smoked, the Fire->Dark was off the hook, Trey may look like a weirdo but he kicks out some sick playing.

Vibe and weather were just perfect and the filming of the Panel and the Miracle interviews during the afternoon made this whole day "special".

Rock on PHIL!

zach's bay marine theater post script:
"holy spanish mackerel! bobbin n weavin or bein still .. always with its mouth wide open, there is always that one seal, or sea lion .. gawking right back atcha"

why the zookeeper puts up w/it? .. it prolly shits white-gold bricks

'The Golden Seal'

& bears repeating: >>larry was absolutely awesome and the entire band cooked ..

larry was absolutely awesome and the entire band cooked ..

larry was absolutely awesome and the entire band cooked ..

yours truly,
toneman

>>>>>>>>My take on Stella Blue:

Phil's been talking a lot about playing a "deconstructive" sytle (especially with RA) I think Stella was an intentional experiment with that approach. It seems they completely stopped... then Molo, then Phil started with very basic notes, everyone came in slowly, came together, built back up, and Joan nailed it. After the song ended, my assumption was that the whole thing was intentional.<<<<<<<


Exactly Mathew...


and right on PZrob.. TOO was a very much intentional mind fuck... and bless him/them for it







I'm way too hungover to offer up much right now


I am finding myself gravitating here due to the fact that I need to get something off my chest..

THAT FUCKING FIRE WAS BEYOND INSANE...TREY SURGING INTO PHIL..PHIL DIGGING IN THAT MUCH MORE...IT WAS FUCKING ON!!!!!!!

It's still all sinking in how much of a good time it all was

the stella stop was totally intentional.

they stopped on a dime after

"I've stayed in every blue light cheap hotel
Can't win for trying"

and then played an instrumental version of a Ryan Adams song...don't let me go or something like that. lord henry called it. it was a pretty beautiful piece.

then they built it back up to

"Dust off those rusty strings just one more time
Gonna make them shine"

and when the video cut to phil i saw the "i miss jerry" sticker on his case in the background.

i still can't really talk about the rest of the show...my mind was BLOWN!

(((THANK YOU PHIL)))

I told Phil after the panel discussion that I was glad that he was still as blown away by the divinity of the whole G_D experience as the rest of us, and he replied with, "everyday man."

oh and remember the after midnight jam between Scarlet and Fire?... and they played the Scarlet ending right before Fire... sounded like a key change too...

I have read every post in this thread relating to reviews from last nights show and that is a first..
so many diff views as should be expected and respected.. i personally am done with criticing and comparing shows in general..so just want to say a few things. Just a review in the context off what was promoted 2 Headlining bands plus the duo's short opening set add to this truly perfect weather with a venue right on the ocean what more could you ask for? GRAB set was Amazing the jams were incredible, very tight band Treys playing is where its at for me. enjoyed both sets by PLF very much..loved the Reuben sounded awesome with no electric guitar. plus we were owed that after not getting it for 8 shows in feb and then the first show in ri or wherever they got it. Was digging Larry in the set and respecting him really by listening extra carefully. cos i did say he dosent fit in plf in the pastbut seriously wtf do i know.. but heres the last thing i want to say on here well 2 things; did no one else hear the Dear Mr.Fantasy tease or whatever in that amazing space between scarlet and fire? i thought they were going into it..ok the other, when Trey came on in the 2nd set, and yes i noticed that nasty interplay with him and Osby all night it was wicked, imo barring in mind Larry is an extremly talented guitar player and everything else, Trey just dominates on stage because he is That type of player, and Larry probally is a more techinclly profecinet player, but to me Trey is one of those rare few guitar players in music alive and dead, that has a sound that when you hear it theres no doubt who it is, so in that respect imho he's def. like Jerry.. Enjoy the rest of the tour all whos going you won't be dissapointed..

Oh yeah, just gotta say the FEEDBACK was super sick. Phil like a mad scientist, slung his bass over his back, and grabbed Big Brown to hold it up in front of his stack for some mind bending feedback.

And Trey and Osby really dug into their bags for some experimental sound/noise. The sound eminating from the stage was HUGE.

One final note, IMO the second set really was a nice nod to the theme of the Oral History project. Miracles, synchronicity, and the Spirt of the 60's and GD community.

Ending with US Blues summed up the problems of the 60's and these modern times.

Stoked for Bethel!

got in to the venue at probably 830. walked in to try to get a decent seat, in looking at the JB seating chart now, I think I was in the first few rows of 13l or 13r, it was pretty good.

anyhow, about ten minutes after I sat down, the show started. playin' is a great opener any way you slice it. china cat was good also and the transition into was slow and gradual. cool to hear rob on lead vox for the first two numbers. as it was windind down, larry picked up his mandolin. I was definitely hearing ujb and that's what I was hoping for.

was really stoked though on the rueben and cherise. I don't think I'd heard phil play this one since back a few months ago with CR, maybe I didn't even then, I can't remember for sure. btw, thank god phil hasn't brought that guy back! anyhow, rueben was smoking. joan nailed it.

let it ride was probably the highlight of the first set for me. I thought it was an awesome song. I didn't know what it was at the time though. during setbreak I ran into bones and said, dude, what song was that? he laughed and said, 'dude, I was sitting right next to you when they played it in nyc last time, you've heard it!' that didn't really ring any bells, but regardless, it was sweet! I did recognize the name though once I'd heard it. I noticed during that song though that a lot of people were sitting down or going to the bathroom or going to get some nachos or something. some people just like to hear songs they know, I guess. I can't understand that philosophy. I love hearing new tunes at these shows. bring it on phil!

big river was an unexpected surprise. I thought larry did a great job! sugaree was awesome. joan always smokes this one. during the 'still have to stand out in the pouring rain' line, I was reminded of seeing joan sing that at this same venue back in 03 at those epic three set shows when it was truly pouring rain. brought a smile to my face!! phil bombed the hell out of that song to close the set, as he likes to do!

during setbreak, I met up with a ton of zoners out in hallway. good seeing everyone and everyone seemed to be in great spirits. fun group of people zoners are.

second set. went back to the same section I was in. miraculously, they did not check my ticket and the aisle seat I had was still available. perfect. scarlet was good to hear! someone above said that trey's vocals didn't do much for them on this song. I have to ask, wtf? didn't phil sing this one? I sure remember it like that. I guess I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised. loved the transition into fire and the whole song smoked. the place was going nuts for that tune. and rightfully so, it was a great version. no LC verse though, right? I kept expecting it and it never came. oh well, he did get a line in in darkstar.

darkstar, yeah, I could see this one coming a mile away and it was effin' sweet! it was totally nailed. no one else mentioned above though that it was first verse only though. I am right about that, right? I'd expect to see the second verse surface either tonight or at bethel. enjoy! other one was smoking! I LOVED the way phil did the vocals! can't wait to hear the tape. I do think he forgot the 'bus came by and I got on' line. he wound up singing something close, but different like, 'and the bus rolled by and then I got on and then it all began' or something. I am definitely curious to hear it. and as mentioned above, it's part of his 'deconstruction' thing.

and although the philzone setlist and people above list feedback after darkstar I am quite sure it was after other one. it was really weird, at first phil had his modulus in front of the speakers, trying to get feedback. then I saw him bend down, and turn up big brown, still sitting on its stand. he then just threw his normal bass over his shoulder and picked up big brown by its neck and held it, waving it in front of the speakers. he never starped it on or played any notes with it.

ok, my take on the stella... I got something TOTALLY different than everyone else above. first off, let's think about the feedback thing. which I swear was right before stella, NOT before other one. has phil ever done feedback with big brown without doing caution? see, I don't think he has. I think/bet caution was on the setlist but there were problems with big brown. I think stella was unrehearsed and not on the setlist. at one point in the jam someone (rob?) laid out something that sounded like stella and phil heard it and was like, ok cool, let's do it! and yeah, maybe that was somewhat planned to do the bridge split up like that, but it didn't go off as planned. for few seconds no one was playing anything except for phil. I actually thought that was really cool though. the whole place was dead silent. the only sound was the glorious bass notes ringing out over the beach like a mother-fucking bell. loved it. it was cool as hell though how the jam came back, building and building until the second part of the bridge came in, 'dust off those rusty strings'. nice. I am very curious to hear this one again.

nfa was nice, hadn't heard that song in a while. I would have prefered dark star v2 > nfa, or really ANY extra song thrown in there, but what can you do? I figured time constraints might have been an issue. I liked us blues. a straight forward rocker. I smiled at 'summer time done come and gone my oh my' lines as this would/will be my final phil show of the summer.

all in all, a solid night of phil in a nice venue in perfect weather. to be honest, I still prefered the camden show though. this one was significantly better than pnc, imo.

speacial thanks to josh from the ticket board and to SOG for hooking me up with a ticket. I am sorry I didn't get to see zach, to give him the ten beans for the ticket. let me know your address so I can mail that to you! and josh, let me know if you ever come down to the city from vt. I owe you big time!! another big thanks goes out to db who gave me a ride from jb to the lirr. couldn't have been timed better! after waiting at the station for no more than two minutes the train to penn station came. then I walked to the path and ran in just as the doors to the train were closing. home by 330 or something.

a great close to my 3 summer 06 shows!

Sorry to disapoint you my good friend Ros, but Stella was on the setlist

Ask Gitman, I told him before the set!

was caution on the setlist? feedback?

interesting, MSG. btw, good seeing you! sorry to have lost you and jojo on the way out!

I only knew Dark Star and Stella. Didn't want to hear any more from my friend.

Good seeing all those Zoners last night!

Yea! Lawn Guy Lind!

P.S. Bought a beautiful set of Pint Glasses and Shot Glasses on Shakedown Street sandblasted with Dead Art! When I got home found two Jerry Head Pipes in the bag as well, don't know if the guy threw them in or fucked up. As I can't find him, I'll go with He Threw Them In!

Was it me or was this a very awkward show?

Just a comment on Stella:
Phil, for some reason (chance music?) decided to split up the 2 verse of the bridge in Stella with a jam that he was orchestrating from mic with mixed reults. Most of the band looked confused but were going along for the ride - and there were some interesting diversions.

Joan was waiting to sing the, "Dust off verse...," for some time.

Personal aside: Nobody Girl - Best Phil cover!

I had a grate time. Enjoyed hanging with the others from the panel and running into an old friend. I realy enjoyed the experimentation/mistakes in Stella and The Other One. I am glad Phil keeps trying new things. I tought Trey did well sitting in too. Everyone brings something different into the mix and his sound was a nice new take. I liked to hear Dark Star. I wanted to see Phil hold that note ("Daaaaark...") and give Bobby a run for his money. I know this is a little beyond what Phil would do, but I really wanted to see him try it. It was cool anyway.Seemed like a really cool crowd last night too. See you all at Dog RCMH next thursday.

>>and they played the Scarlet ending right before Fire... sounded like a key change too...

true, i noticed they were playing fire in A last night

>>Phil's been talking a lot about playing a "deconstructive" sytle (especially with RA) I think Stella was an intentional experiment with that approach..

Matthew, thanks for the laugh. Seriously, the band fucks up, misses the lyrics when the telepromter fails and suddenly it's called "deconstructive" style. have some more koolaid ~

>>>>RE: the "strange" Other One and Stella Blue ....

>>>I think it was a combination of exhaustion and "Chance Music" (i.e. Ryan Adams style).

>>>>Phil has done this before w/Other One, he slows up delivery of each vocal with extended jam in between, then I suspect he was "messing" with the vocals on purpose -


absofuginLUTELY!

definietly intentional, Phil's been doing the same thing with birdsong as well, mixing up the vocal lines from different verses all into the same verse, trying to eek out "newness" from these songs, take them to new places, approach them from new angles, STREEEETCCCCCHHHHH em out...

that is purpose of having Trey up there, to get a NEW angle on the classic canon...

same thing right before FIRE, they played the Scarlet CODA (usually happens AFTER FIRE) ENDED SCARLET, and then WHABLAMO! Straight into FIRE, FULL LIGHT SPEED AHEAD!

besides during the other one I was almost postive Phil was dosed

Trey figured it out last night, stepped back a little, became part of the band and what erupted was a massive psychedlic volcano, went toe to toe with Phil, and it was pure magic...

PHIL does this with everybody he plays with. Shows them the waaaaayyy....

once they "get it", and Phil gets to mind meld the whole place while "assimilating" the consciousness of the "new guy" (whether it be Warren, Jimmy, Kimock, Larry, Sless, and last night Trey), and just take the music out there further, to uncharted spaces...

second set was the biggest Vulcan Mind Meld since the last night of AC...

after 4 shows, Camden, PNC, SPAC, and Jones I'm wiped (and I think Phil is a little tired too) but man was that fun...

detail of last nights show (although there were many to speak of) were not important, big picture concepts, GREAT SOUND, perfect weather, OPEN AIR (NO ROOF!!!), killer playing, Trey STEPPIN BACK TO THEN STEP UP!!!

SICK SHOW!!!!

and oh YEAH Ros, Let it Ride was SICK, MAJOR HIGHLIGHT (as was the Ruben) but for the life of ME I dont remember discussing it with ya at set break, go figure...

piece out freaks good times indeed, BRING ON FALL TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>> TA's a nice "guest", but no way does his "singing" add anything to scarlet

If *anyone* comes to sing Scarlet and prevents Phil from trying to do it - that is adding a ton to Scarlet, IMHO.

This show was on fire. Sat in the orchestra level and they killed it second set. WOW!

"Phil had absolutely no clue what the words were supposed to be in TOO, he was even laughing as he tried to make up parts he remembered ("...trembles and explodes")".

i took phil's re-arrangement of TOO lyrics as deliberate - which i believe is a trait he admires in RA, who is known to have done just that to GD tunes, to the dismay of many sensitive phans.

admittedly - i am not a big fan of RA or phils choice to showcase this guy in absentia - but - i thought let it ride at JB was played with great enthusiam and perhaps phil got another one thru to me.

great great show
trey absolutely kicked it up a notch
emeril would've been proud

WHEN CAN WE GET SOME BEER BACK IN THE JONES BEACH THEATRE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

ROOM TO BREATH...SPACE...EMPTY SPACE

Every important improvisational ensemble in the history of performance understands the importance of nothingness...empty space...breathing room...from Mingus, to John Cage, Coltrane, Godspeed, The Chicago Art Ensemble, San Francisco's Grateful Dead of the 60's...room to breath.
The night was perfect, the air fresh and sulfurous at low tide, the air a bit warmer after sunset, the crowd well behaved, and no alcohol a breath of fresh air as well...the cops were cool..all that is fine...thank god phil is alive...

HAVING SAID THAT...Phil and Friends were poor listeners last night, and many nights. Too many fingers moving too much. Poor Greg Osby never gets to solo without Barraco's hampster fingers moving a mile a minute...and Trey never got to stretch out after the Begonias, as Larry thought he was the 'lead' guitarist in a jam band. Larry needs to learn a bit from bob wier...
Folks need to chill, just stop playing sometimes, sit back and listen.
And phil needs to trash that ridiculous improvisational destroying monitoring system which chokes the life out of the real creative moments of true improvisational ensemble playing

I just want to reiterate something: I first proposed that the unusual Stella was a fucked-up-the-words problem, but I'm certainly open to the idea that it was an attempt at a different version that they didn't quite nail. Either way, it was both great, and clearly not exactly as planned. As for TOO, though, this was NOT a case of "Bobbyizing" the verses, slowing them down or stuttering or anything like that. Phil flubbed it, and to be honest, I don't even know the words to TOO, so it's hardly something to complain about. But c'mon, guys, the best thing about this band is that it isn't all rehearsed and they do "mess up" and sometimes that's the best kind of music they produce -- but please, don't try to convince me, yourselves, or anyone else that everything they do is intentional or part of some "deconstructive" master plan.

Yeah I'm almost positive that the "new" Stella Blue was an attempt split it in two like "Nobody Girl"

and like someone mentioned above, the jam in the middle was an instrumental version of a RA song "Please Do Not Let Me Go"...I gotta listen to it again, but I'm almost positive.

By Adam (Jupitermission1) (68.175.83.133) on Adam (Jupitermission1)...As for TOO, though, this was NOT a case of "Bobbyizing" the verses, slowing them down or stuttering or anything like that....

Adam, just a clarification, by "Bobbyizing" I meant he completely spaced (lost/forgot)the words. It would seem we're on the same page about Phil botching TOO lyrics. I thought folks would know exactly what I was talking about. Sorry if my language was not clear.

I find the alternative explanations of what happened (Deconstruction, Chance Music, etc.)very amusing though. Anyway, can't wait for the tapers to come off tour and upload this show. Thank you tapers!

>>>>>>Yeah I'm almost positive that the "new" Stella Blue was an attempt split it in two like "Nobody Girl"

during the following portion of the Boca soundcheck

So Many Roads//*>
Nobody Girl>
Jam>
China Doll>
Nobody Girl

where nobody girl goes into the jam. the NG was goin towards what I thought was a Stella buildup, and when it went to silence, Joan tried to start Stella. She got 3 words in and Phil launched the band into the jam(much like he didnt think it was right). When the jam went to silence,, the next time Joan started China Doll.

So he has defintely been tryin to work these things around, inside down and all.


Looks like this was a great show y'all got.

I agree it seemed as though the middle of Stella was heading toward Ryan's "Please Do Not Let Me Go". As Phil looked backstage and Joan has dissapeared I wondered if Ryan was going to join the festivites, but it did not happen and then the return to Stella, which was great. I wonder if he was in the venue as he resides in NY.
The first set was great. The Let It Ride through the end of the set was insane. I loved Set 2 too. Ripping all the way through. Great Stuff! I really enjoyed Scarlet. Best show I've seen from Phil & CO yet...including the Q.(Though Red Rocks 2001 was way up there.)
I'm very glad that he has kept playing the Ryan tunes...they are awesome songs. A fall tour with Phil & Friends with Ryan & The Cards would be great in my book.

A little to much anaylzing as to what happened during Stella Blue and TOO. I've been to tons of shows and strongly believe that when Stella almost came to a halt, it was nothing more than a screw up. End of story. And even with the halt, Stella was still awesome and will forever be a different version than most others. Joan rocks.
As to TOO, I think it was a combo of Phil forgetting lyrics and his style of singing TOO. Listen to the 2/12/06 Beacon TOO when he sang with the same exact spasmadic off beat tempo during certain parts of the song (even when he sang all the words correctly). Once again, the JB version of TOO just makes it another special version of an awesome tune.
And I still say that Fire SMOKED!!!

Hey There,

I thought the whole show was great. I really enjoyed the teases during Scarlet>Fire.

Rueben & Cherise was sweet to hear, Made me think of like 91 at the theatre at MSG.

I feel like trucking up to Essex, Vt for MORE Please, DID YOU SAY MORRRRRRRRREEEEEEE!! Little Tiny Tim I am. - Dickens

I don't care what you all think - I think Joan is giving it her best, and Like I said it's just my Opinion, But, I think she is also PRETTY AND HOT, watching her shaking those hips during Sugaree at the end of 1st set - I'm happily married too!!?!!?!

Damn I want More -

Peace - Jeremy

IMHO...Trey ruined this show for me. Out of the 20 or show Phil shows Ive seen, the 2nd set was the worst set Ive seen. (I really liked the first set)

Trey seems oblivious to what the other musicians were doing. Everytime a jam got going, he would interupt it. Everytime Osby or the other guitar tried to play, Trey cut him off. He totally sucked the energy out of the band. He isnt good enough to be on stage with the likes of Phil, Osby and Molo. I was up close, and you can see that the other musicans (except Phil) werent too happy.

as for TOO....Phil was just reharmonizing the lyrics. I thought that was cool.

I know people will debate me, but the bottom line is this---people were streaming out of the show before it was over. I left during the Not Fade, and there was a mass exodus going on. If the band was on, that would not have happened.

Trey's Pre-K Report Card

completes assignments-Satisfactory
practices lessons- Satisfactory
shares with others-Needs Improvement

I thought Larry wanted to go off on the fiddle in TOO, but never got a chance--Whatever

A gorgeous summer night at the Beach, great sound, and a 66 y.o. Guru, Shaman, Legend workin it for all in attendance--Whats not to love?--Tom