11-13-01 Buffalo, NY

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sliceolife (Slice) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 11:11 pm: Edit Post

well can you belive Phill at Shea's .. WOOWOOW
this my friends this going to be awsome...
wait till you here the walls shake on this nite..


till then
enjoy the tour...

slice


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill (Tacobill) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 11:52 pm: Edit Post

TO ANYONE WITH THE TOUR:
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(I also just rec'd my new iPod http://www.apple.com/ipod/ if anyone wants to see it. It seriously rocks!)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Shupe (Lessthan) on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 09:48 pm: Edit Post

1st set from live chat room

setlist was...Jam> Crazy
Fingers>Friend of the Devil, Tastes Like
Wine>Brown Eyed Women, Rock-n-Roll
Blues>Crazy Fingers Jam>Cold Rain and
Snow


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tapecat (Tapecat) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:14 am: Edit Post

OK now I want to beat my head against the wall, skip a show a miss Hard to handle again!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dossman 58 (Dossman58) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 07:55 am: Edit Post

IT's the backgammon theory, TC. Leave an open space,and POW!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brad Snyder (Bradfest) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 08:52 am: Edit Post

And I was this close to heading north on I71 instead of east on I70.......never was very good at backgammon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Rodriguez (Tonto) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 08:55 am: Edit Post

Hey TC.. I missed a show I almost went to & missed Dark Star & the Angel band tune! Talk about banging my head against the wall! I've been hoping to see another Dark Star since I last saw the band do it for a brief few minutes in Shoreline in 1991! Guess I got to see the band some more...
Any reviews on the show out there (or is everyone still on the road?)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GCarlin (Gcarlin) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:25 am: Edit Post

Where's the reviews?
Must have been a fine show...SHHHHHH
people are still sleeping..
Setlist look real nice...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:32 am: Edit Post

Mighty fine show! Mighty fine!

Good Venue! MegaBuzz and I sat RIGHT NEXT to Jill & Sideshow Bob when we took our seats...

The CrazyFingers was a real treat! My first one!

MegaBuzz and I decided to drink whiskey on an empty stomach. I was pretty well MegaBuzzed by the end of the show. They let you leave and re-enter, so we hit the Backstage Bar for more refreshments!

Second set is a little fuzzy, but the H2H was good times! I really like the way they've restructured this tune!

Good times had by all! Sorry for the vagueness, but I'm really not worth a shite today...My head hurts and my mind is numb...Maybe MegaBuzz can chime in with more details.

Onward to Albany!

BTW...The Everett posters for this tour kick some serious ass! They also had prints from the 9-15 shows that were cancelled...Also done by Everett. I would pick them both up, but the wife and I have a bet going which prevents me from doing so (long story)...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By frank (Franklinstowr) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:34 am: Edit Post

Anyone have the complete setlist???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Pozzy (Redtide) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:44 am: Edit Post

Who sings H2H? Please say it's Warren and not Phil...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:51 am: Edit Post

>> Anyone have the complete setlist???

Set 1: Jam>
Crazy Fingers>
Friend of the Devil
Tastes Like Wine>
Brown Eyed Women
Rock-n-Roll Blues>
Crazy Fingers Jam>
Cold Rain and Snow

Set 2:
Scarlet Begonias>
Spacey Jam>
Cumberland Blues
Viola Lee Blues V1>
Hard To Handle>
Viola V2> Space Jam>
Beautifully Broken>
Viola V3> Bertha
E: Brokedown Palace

>> Who sings H2H? Please say it's Warren and not Phil...

Yes, it's Warren...Not Phil...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter (Pabkind) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:52 am: Edit Post

1st set
crazy fingers> friend of the devil
taste like wine> brown eyed women
rock-n-roll blues> crazy fingers jam>
cold rain & snow

2nd set
scarlet> jam>
cumberland blues
viola lee blues v1> hard to handle>
viola lee blues v2> space jam
beautifully broken> v3> bertha

E: brokedown palace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter (Pabkind) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:54 am: Edit Post

oops..sorry about the repetition


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:56 am: Edit Post

oops..sorry about the repetition


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter (Pabkind) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:58 am: Edit Post

hello, hello is there an echo in here?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:59 am: Edit Post

Oh yeah...This venue is absolutely beautiful, by the way!

Except that they stopped selling beer before the show...Who does that?!?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tapecat (Tapecat) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 10:13 am: Edit Post

What that's absolutely Criminal!!!!!!!!!

This venue needs to be protested!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 10:33 am: Edit Post

>> This venue needs to be protested!!

Minor inconvenience...Beautiful theater! Exit, re-entry...Bar right out back...No hassle getting in...Great place to see a show! I was highly impressed!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cory J Laird (Lairdscamp420) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 10:42 am: Edit Post

I dont know what I like most, you guys in this chat or the anticipation of going to the 3 Boston shows.
See ya'll at the Bean town pub (1 block up the street from the Orphium) Nov 21, 23,24th.
Where is my bro Whitetooth yahatzee??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By doc p (Markp) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 10:44 am: Edit Post

great show. awesome scarlet > cumberland WOW


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By doc p (Markp) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:18 am: Edit Post

Its nice to see the negativity has stopped. How could anyone complain about Warren? Sit back and enjoy the music.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:27 am: Edit Post

It was scarifyin'!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LJ S (Mrmegabuzz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:46 am: Edit Post

...Rev what the hell ya doing up so early?...oh thats right you got to sleep all the way back to Syracuse while I played the rumble strips....my mind's playing tricks on me...

...shower and orange juice first...show review and comments later...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:49 am: Edit Post

It wasn't even close to Halloween...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:52 am: Edit Post

>> ...Rev what the hell ya doing up so early?...

Some of us actually have to go to work...We can't all be self employed and sleep till noon!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan Williams (Arw0728) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 12:09 pm: Edit Post

glad to see the negative vibes have stopped it was getting out of control. I think Warren adds just another flavor to the music that keeps us dancing and grooving all night.

Won't get to see Phil until 12-30 & 31 but can't wait. Anyone else catching those shows or the Cheese shows in SF 12-28 & 29. We are coming from the East Coast for those and are hoping to meet up with some kind people.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 12:12 pm: Edit Post

Exit and re-entry?! WAY cool!!!!!! I like this whole new speedway/H2H direction.....looking forward to hearing these shows....last night looks like a barnburner


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clancy Whigham (Tweeker) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 01:00 pm: Edit Post

I'm doing that run, coming from out east also. Couple nights of cheese, a couple of phil bombers, and finally a new years eve with the family. Then off to tahoe for fesh tracks in waist deep snow!!!! Woooohhhhhooooooooooo!
Can't wait for Phil, oh wait a second, I dont have to hes comin to beantown in a week!!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JD (Drunkeneagle) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 01:06 pm: Edit Post

Wow, setlist looks great, crazy fingers to start it off, gotta love that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cryptical (Cryptical) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 01:15 pm: Edit Post

>Then off to tahoe for fesh tracks in waist
deep snow!!!! Woooohhhhhooooooooooo!

Let's not forget that Squaw only had like something about 25 inches the entire month of December last year.
Pray to the snow god.

Heading there too, Clancy after NYE.
You are more than welcome to join us hammering out KT22 in the Valley and checking out of bounds at Alpine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clancy Whigham (Tweeker) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 02:47 pm: Edit Post

I have been praying to the gods since this trip was confirmed ( you got to be optimistic). I think santa will drop hefty mound of the white to ring in the new year with. Its either that or I get hamsacked at the casino and spent every cent i got. Have not skiied in tahoe before, definitley looking to get down at Apline Meadows. Time to start watching the weatherchannel every night. And New Years with Phil and the boys in their own backyard, you just can't beat it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cryptical (Cryptical) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 02:56 pm: Edit Post

The place rules.


And I am sure I will be right there at the blackjack table next to you doubling down or rolling the bones..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:02 pm: Edit Post

That's one long shower, there MegaBuzz...Where is the review?!?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Trott (Jackstraw111) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:06 pm: Edit Post

Had to go to work today after the show last night in Buffalo. What a bummer of a day to have to function back in reality. Great show, though! Cumberland kicked ass! The Viola>H2H>Viola was hot!!! Security were total pricks where I was Orchestra 1. Couldn't dance in the aisles without someone yelling at us. Got kicked out for smoking a cigarette during Cold Rain. They took my ticket and wristband. Got back in though for a smokin' Scarlet! F them! They gotta loosen up their tight reins at Shea's. I like the UB campus better! Phil, thank you...for a real good time!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By doc p (Markp) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:21 pm: Edit Post

security was ok in center orchestra, and the sound was perfect!!!!!. Loud but not too loud. You could hear everybody individually,and it is true, the sum is greater than the parts. What a show that was -- awesome. You cant go by setlists with these guys, its the jamming that counts and you can jam out anything. Friend of the devil is not your typical jamming tune but what a jam out of that song last night.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LJ S (Mrmegabuzz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 04:46 pm: Edit Post

...shower was short, it was squeezing the damn oranges between my knees that took me so long...

...the music was smoking, great setlist...Rev asked me on the way up to Buffalo if I had any song preferences for the evening and I said Cumberland would be very nice...yes there is a God and he has a Black Knight to protect him...Crazy Fingers, Cold Rain, Brown Eyed Wimmen, Scarlet, Viola...theys all good...Rock-n-roll Blues a bit too mellow for me but made for good crowd-free bathroom break...missed Bertha and Brokedown Palace as I think the Rev was embarrassed that I wore my Dubya inaugaration T-shirt and wanted to split early...is Phil getting thinner or am I just being narrow minded?...

...Shea's was another one of those beautifully restored movie/opera houses from way back...the intricately carved and painted woodwork just enhances the visual part of the journey...

...Shea's management has an interesting twist on the security issue...they hire everyones's mom to come and hang out for the evening and make you feel guilty about doing anything bad...much better than the frat boy rent-a-narcs that most venues hire...JackStraw don't you know cigs are bad for you not to mention these glorious old venues(nugs are different)? I'm surprised they just kicked you out, one guy near me and Rev got grounded for a month with no Nintendo for lighting up...very interesting concept of giving out wristbands and allowing reentry...selling alcohol only during intermission was also puzzling but with several bars across the street and my wristband it was a non-issue...

...parking lot scene was mild in our particular lot...heard there was a grilled cheese incident, apparently someone was told to shut down...FYI-security people are partial to donuts...seemed like every conceivable mind altering substance of choice was available...but why is it these 'hustlers' are always trying to mooch free beers off you?...word up! if you aren't offering me a trade or free samples then don't ask me for free beer...F*CK OFF get a real job!!!, don't tour if you can't afford it...what's the point of traveling around the country following a band if you never actually go inside to see them...get a life!!!...OK I'll retract a bit as maybe someday we'll all be surprised to see Raver McHustle's USA Parking Lot Pictorial now available at a mall bookstore near you...

...all in all its kind of a weird little trip...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The_Reverend (Raheen_Shabbazz) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:07 pm: Edit Post

>> Rev was embarrassed that I wore my Dubya inaugaration T-shirt and wanted to split early...

Too much whiskey and beer on an empty stomach. Hadn't eaten all day...But, hey, we avoided the traffic entirely! First one in line for the parkin lot chili! First one out of the parking lot! First one at the eatery!

And we STILL didn't get home until 3:30 AM!

Kinda bummed that we missed the Brokedown...But that was some damn good parkin' lot chili!!

Gettin' geared up for the Albany show!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Rubin (Drubin) on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 07:38 pm: Edit Post

Hey,

How can I get in on the powder skiing before/after NYE?

Want to ski Sugar Bowl big time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cryptical (Cryptical) on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 09:46 am: Edit Post

1/1/02 we are en route to North Tahoe Dave.

A wee hop skip and a jump away from the ski areas,
of North Beach...gambling and hookers in Nevada.

Meet up with us at the MoJos in Oaktown.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric fefferman (Cautionjam1) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:23 am: Edit Post

Late review.
Killer lookin venue!
Band comes on stage with house lights on. Neat? Band starts playing, Lights go off.Different! Nice touch. Jam>

Sweet Crazy Fingers > Friend of the Devil off the top.
Tastes Like Wine always good.
Phil goes an extra round at the bottom of Cold Rain.
Good first set. Great Band!
Let's Have a drink.

2nd half
Here we GO!
Rollicking SCARLET BEGONIAS ,the balconey was bouncing'from the dancin' > Phil steers the ship through the twilight zone into
*the Killer CUMBERLAND BLUES. Highlight of the night, for sure.
Viola sandwich tasty. Excellent Hard to Handle.(Like the 10 second Caution Jam tease , Phil)
All the rest good.

Pre encore prank
Phil's roadie disinfects Phil's pedals by spraying some kind of stuff from an aerosol-can.
Oh yeah we're in New York.
Funny stuff guys

Sweet Brokedown Palace. Perfect choice.
Off we go into the night , round the corner to See local Dead band Sonic Garden.

Then Back to Canada via Customs .
They plant bud in our car, hassle us all for a couple of hours, and then let us go.
Welcome to Rookie training week at the Peace Bridge.

Thanks for another Phun one Guys.
Peace

The Caution Jam
Toronto


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sean Palmerston (Sadp) on Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 06:43 am: Edit Post

I thought the whole show was great except for Hard To Handle. It totally lost momentum in the middle and seemed to go nowhere. Loved the Scarlet > Cumberland. Nice to recognize a lot of oldschool Ontario and Western new York faces at the show, what a beautiful Theater. I wish the band would come play in Toronto as well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sideshow Bob (Drkstrjry) (64.12.103.28) on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 02:39 pm: Edit Post

Buffalo 11/13/01 Tuesday: Length: 76’/101’, Rating: 8.2 My long-anticipated return to Shea’s, one of the reasons I decided to follow the tour. I was lucky enough to catch 1/20/79 as a college freshman at Univ of Pittsburgh, all of 18 years old, my 9th show, one of my fondest memories of all time. Upon entering the place, the poshness, the elderly volunteer ushers, the champagne served at set break only, all these were like "oh yeah, I remember . . .". Shea’s had more of a posh elegance as opposed to the architectural intricacy of the St Louis and Louisville venues. Security was ridiculously uptight yet disorganized. They thoroughly searched my bag, tagged it as searched, then let me leave and enter with the same bag unsearched. Bizzare. They were uptight inside as well. They hassled anyone with a backpack anywhere outside the tapers section. My seats were occupied by the light board, so we got reseated 15th row center, not bad, but would rather be in the loge. The show got off to another very mellow start, similar to St Louis, but better than Louisville. They seem uncomfortable in these unfamiliar theatre venues. Every song and jam is decent, but there is not really any x-factor. The first jam teased Friend of the Devil, then dropped to Crazy Fingers, which then led to the ‘Devil. Tastes Like Wine is my favorite slow Warren song, unfortunately rare. This starts another trend I have heard complaints about from friends who only see their local shows. Seems PLQ chooses songs they played at the last show in the same area. Witness this show and Canadaigua. Witness Richmond VA in the spring and VA Beach in the summer. Not my problem, being privileged to see so many. The first set concludes weakly but adequately with R&R Blues into Cold Rain. During the break I discover all the gonzo out in the open taping is happening on the Loge, which is well placed very close to the stage in this particular theatre, as the show is so under-attended the whole upstairs is less than half full. The second set starts with a tad more energy as Scarlet builds momentum into a nice long sustained jam that thankfully will not lead to Fire, having been done last show. They toy with many themes, including Fire, dissolve to Space, then rev up to Cumberland, good choice! A thoroughly explored version, dissolves to space, back to bluegrass, harkens back to all the Niagra Falls area late 1800’s industrialism fueled by hydro-power, railroads, Canada, etc. A pause is followed by VIOLA, voila, here we go, on with the serious stuff. The band and sound feeling much more at ease, they have finally "arrived". The first jam explores for quite a while then leads directly to Hard to Handle riffs, I am not believing they will actually do it (being they did it close by in Canadaigua this summer), but the riff surfaces heavier and heavier, wham, power chording the first bars, Warren belting it out, you believe he is living this song, a natural fit. My first version, the only one I have heard before is Canadaigua on CD. This version has differences in the lyrics, goes way out on the jam. I really believe it is on to the next song, then, wham, back to the end, onto Viola V2, more jamming, drops into Beautifully Broken, decent choice. Amazingly, they crank it up on these slow songs, the sound is peaking with every drum beat. Back to Viola V3, then, into the climax jam of Viola that was missing from so many summer versions, but, alas, this veers awkwardly into Bertha, the Viola ending being blown off. Then an Ok Brokedown encore. A slightly disappointing ending, but hey, when you get the Hard to Handle, who’s to complain? TC, you painfully learned my lesson about show-going. Whenever you contemplate going to a show and then don’t, they ALWAYS make you regret it. For me, that means, Worcester ’83, Augusta ’84, Richmond ’85. Showed Jill the painting in the front lobby of the girl with the exposed tit, juicy! Back to the street to drink my real Molson Canadian beer, damn, I should have bought a case or 2, brings back memories. Wow, they have Tim Horton’s in the States now!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) (65.11.210.112) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:38 pm: Edit Post

"harkens back to all the Niagra Falls area late 1800’s industrialism fueled by hydro-power, railroads, Canada, etc. "

Bob, you and Jill soooooo should have went to the falls with us the next day. Something about Brokedown palace and Niagra Falls.

Great review! I think I would have given this one a 9.1 though just for its theme oriented undertones. Its in my top 3 of the tour. Can't wait to hear the tapes. And I have to agree on the venue, security was a pain in the ass, there was no beer during the show, and there was a strict no smoking policy. But all this was totally compensated for a undersold venue with plenty of dancing space and a RE-ENTRY policy with a bar 30 feet across the street. I mean, you could have lit a heater, slammed 2 beers, and been back before the song was over sort of place! GREAT TIME ALL AROUND! Sheas gets an A+.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ms jill (Ho4phil) (152.163.194.213) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 06:03 pm: Edit Post

Gregula, bubbie, you are SO the man, as Beth is SO the woman!!! Glad you guys saw the falls in our absence...OH! SO I need to commission another pair of patchies from our dear and brilliant math chick~she knows what fit me, any color, if she has any made now I will mofo next-day-air myself a pair...i'll send the same message to you via em, not sure which you'll see first!!

oh, and Buffalo show?...was that the Hard to Handle? ~easily the highlight, but i also know i had an overall great time, space to dance and freedom to puff: wins my *2 bongs up* rating...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) (65.11.210.112) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 06:37 pm: Edit Post

hey honey, did you see my new profile pic? thats your sticker!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Patrick Neal (Phatrick) (207.172.11.232) on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 11:29 pm: Edit Post

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