Goin to NYC! Got tix for Saturday nite but ... need 2 for Friday nite. Any kind heads who can help a brother out? Send e-mail please. Peace

Help please- goin' to NYC to do a show with sis...need tix for sat...please email if you can help...

Does anyone have a single ticket to sell for the show on Monday, 12/3? Please e-mail me at Howard60@aol.com and I'll gladly make arrangements to pay for and pick-up the ticket.

i would like to fly in from los angeles for saturday night if anyone has an extra or miracle with my name on it...

Hey, I'm looking for a pair of great Orch seats for Saturday night. How bout face value and I'll burn ya some smokin discs??? Richl99@optonline.net

looking for a beacon sat. ticket have an extra fri, looking for a trade. i also have an extra wed. orchestra to trade for a sat.
e-mail me
nicklongbeach@cs.com

peace
nick

Hey all, how about Phil and the boys break out "France"!? - you know that awful song from the "Shakedown" lp that was never played live by the Dead (or anyone for that matter)and never talked about. I'd get a laugh if they played it once as a "lost classic"
seriously though, I'd love to hear Phil and the boys bust out White Rabbit. I got chills when Phils bass riff busted through the haze during that Furthur jam when he guested in '96.

Hey heads-
I have an extra for friday nite, but i need one for sat. it can be anywhere, just want to get in the door.
if anyone can help me out, let me know!
thanks and rock on

How are the seats in the upper balcony?

Hey Jill, Buck, et al...

how about P & G's Cafe 73rd & Amsterdam 6;15-6:30 ish Saturday night? its right around the corner from da Beacon

It's an open invite
come one, come all

I'll have my green " Belmont Park" hat on!
( and I'll be sitting in the back area by the ladies room- natch!!!)

see ya
brick

Hey Folks,

I have a pair of Row BB Orchestra tix, seats 15 &17, for Saturday night.

Looking to trade 'em *only* for the big benefit on Monday. If you're game,please respond privately to:

lazylghtng@aol.com

Thanks!

Jimmy Z.

Brick it's a plan I hope cos I am outta here once again cit-ay bound...can't wait to see ya again~bring MANY Sarah pics as SI seriously bonered in the phamily photo department (SO bring plenty for the weekend, Mr SI...)

I have an extra for Sat Night. Only willing to trade for a Monday. I need a Miracle!!
Keith

I have a pair of extras for 12/1 lodge row d to trade either 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 for 12/3. I am not looking for a comparable (sp?) seat, just to get in. will meet at the show on saturday, thanks.
adam

IN NEW YORK FROM COLORADO AND LOOKING TO SEE MY GOOD FRIEND PHIL THIS WEEKEND AT THE BEACON. CAN ANYONE HELP ME? EMAIL OR CALL ME. 303-641-7314. THANKS SO MUCH.
TIMM.

click your heels together and say
3x "there is no place like home"

Another beautiful New York City morning!!
Does anyone have one measly extra ticket for tonight's show? "If I had all the world to give", I would.

Don't leave me out in the cold rain and snow!!

Please contact me at jboyaqu@hotmail.com

Thanks much.

I have three extra tickets for tonite (standing room tickets). I will trade my three for ONE Monday 12/3 ticket. Email me at jrmnyc@hotmail.com or better call my cell [917] 406-1526. I am in NYC now.

Good Lord, it's beautiful outside today... are we sure this is FALL tour? I can't believe it's Dec. 1st and I'm still wearing shorts...

Setlist???

here goes the 1st set jam>alabama ga>tennessee jed>patchwork quilt>big j>spacey jam w/darkstar hint>mountains of the moon>night of 1000 stars this is per brian per frankl. enjoy

From Brian via FRANKL:
Set 2:
Jam >
Acadian Driftwood...

another update...
From Brian via FRANKL:Set 1: Jam> AL Getaway, TN Jed, Patchwork Quilt> Jam> Mason's> Mountains> Night of 1000 Stars Set 2: Jam > Acadian Driftwood > Uncle John's

I have one extra 5th row ticket for 12/3, it includes the meet and greet as well as the signed poster.

I am willing to sell it at cost. ($267).
If your interested please email me at,
clang@panix.com and include a phone number where I can reach you.

Thanks
Chris

another update...
From Brian via FRANKL:Set 1: Jam> AL Getaway, TN Jed, Patchwork Quilt> Jam> Mason's> Mountains> Night of 1000 Stars Set 2:
Jam > Acadian Driftwood > Uncle John's > Deal > Shakedown

Yet another update...
From Brian via FRANKL:Set 1: Jam> AL Getaway, TN Jed, Patchwork Quilt> Jam> Mason's> Mountains> Night of 1000 Stars Set 2:
Jam > Acadian Driftwood > Uncle John's > Deal > Shakedown > Jam > Viola v1 > Other One v1

Hey Dan-

Thanks for the updates. Good to meet you on Tuesday. Check your email.

Only, what, 20 hours till the next shindig...

Later,

SI

And one more...Yet another update...
From Brian via FRANKL:Set 1: Jam> AL Getaway, TN Jed, Patchwork Quilt> Jam> Mason's> Mountains> Night of 1000 Stars Set 2: Jam > Acadian Driftwood > Uncle John's > Deal > Shakedown Jam > Viola v1 > Other One v1 > Jam > Other One v2 > Viola v2 > Sugaree > Viola v3 E: Dickey Betts on stage: Big Jam w/ heavy Allmans teases > GDTRFB > Bid You Goodnight

From Brian via FRANKL:
Set 1:
Jam>
Alabama Getaway,
Tennessee Jed,
Patchwork Quilt>
Jam>
Mason's Children>
Mountains of the Moon>
Night of 1000 Stars
Set 2:
Jam >
Acadian Driftwood >
Uncle John's Bnad >
Deal >
Shakedown St >
Jam >
Viola v1 >
Other One v1 >
Jam >
Other One v2 >
Viola v2 >
Sugaree >
Viola v3
E:
Dickey Betts on stage:
Big Jam w/ heavy Allmans teases >
GDTRFB >
And We Bid You Goodnight

WAOH, I wish i were there
see you all at new years
ok now lets get some reviews
quick, WHILE YOU ARE STILL
TRIPPING,
i just need a good point of view;)

DUDE..i knew that sugaree was coming...i could feel it in me bones...

True test you are addicted to Phil. Despite the fact that the Loge is bouncing up and down at about 2 inches, no matter how petrified you are that the thing is going to plummet, and that the balcony above you, which has 5 times the amount of people on it is going to follow, you keep on dancing, because the Viola-Shakedown etc is mindblowing..

True test that you have seen too many Phil shows: you call Alabama Getaway a quarter into the opening jam.

This show is as good as Boston last Saturday, (thank you Tom, the traffic stunk and I heard discs 1&2 on the way home), but with about 100% double the energy.

"Don't tell me this town don't got no heart....". No Blue Sky, but the one the other night was _______________ (insert any over the top adjective you wish). Dickey Betts...what a trip.

Jam or Marmelaide....doesn't matter. The Other One is the first version I have liked ever, and it was incredibly good. The Viola like no other...

Maybe I will regain my senses and write a review, but for now, we are hanging out trying to come down.

Oh, and lest I forget...the last jam in 1000 Stars, oh my lord....set the pace for the second set.

Oops-big booboo. Taper Roger from Nashua, NH. That is by far the most incredibly amazing, and kind thing that anyone has ever said to me in my entire life. I will never forget it ever.

just so you know...the heavy allmans teases listed above for the encore was mountain jam...longest one done by plq so far...great to see dickie out there again.

Shakedown Street!

...Phil & the Usual Suspects inviting Dickie Betts on for the encore/3rd set...how cool was that?...three guitar southern rock jam...eeeeeehh haaahhhh!!!!...pretty classy move on Phil's part...non-stop rockin' all night...

too bad friday was the night i went. it was a sleeper. sat looks like it was the real deal.

The next one is always better dawgdaddy!
Friday ROCKED. Further!

Myles

I wasn't there last night, but I have no doubt it was a killer show. I WAS there Friday, and it was no sleeper!

How did Dickie sound?I hope this may get him back on track with the real jamming we all know he can do so well.

My Personal Set List...
Set I
small Jam->
Alabama Getaway.
Tenessee Jed.
Patchwork Quilt->
tease? ->(not sure what song)
Jam->
Masons Children->
Uncle Johns Tease->
Low Spark Tease->
Mountains of the Moon->
Night of a 1000 Stars.

Set II
Jam->
Arcadian Driftwood.
*Uncle Johns Band->
#Deal.
**Shakedown Street->
***Viola->
Jam-> (Warren rocked this jam Maybe China tease)
Thats it for the Other One->
Viola->
Sugaree->
Jam->
Viola.

E:Mountain Jam->
GDTRFB->
Mountain Jam->
Crazy drawn out ending w/ Dickey Betts on stage for the whole encore.

* = Jimmy Rocking the 1st half and Warren Rocking the 2nd half

#/ Warren Switched Guitars

** Warrens Lesley Rocks the House!
*** The beginning of the famed Viola Lee Sandwich

First set was definately a warmup last night. Second set was most certainly the monster of the run for me so far. My 1st VIOLA, WOO-HOO losing my shite of course one the first dead tunes I ever fell in love with.

The part with Dicky was Jam>Mountain Jam>GDTRFB. Dicky took some words on GDTRFB but you could not hear his vocals too well. I'd guess jam was a nice 10 mins or so.

Awesome show last night. Second set was smokin'. Warren sang the sweetest Sugaree. Definetly heard that Low-Spark tease more than once throughout the show.

Great to make it back to the beacon. Security was a breeze, waltzed right into the show, without a patdown.

Only problem I had was in the orchestra, Warren side. Some idiot popped open the exit door and a bunch of people ran in. Just what we don't need. This ruins the scene for everyone and created some tension with the secrity, which is understandable. Hopefully this was an isolated incident.

Real nice to see Dickey Betts join the guys onstage. Wish vocals could have been turned up a bit though, but his guitar sounded sweet. Can't wait until Monday, sure to be a great show once again.

Well, this was my last show of the tour, and I couldn't have asked for more. It had the same feel as the Meadows last summer, where every note sounds better than the last. The second set in particular just FLOORED me- Uncle John's, Shakedown, Sugaree... THe balcony was bouncing alarmingly during the Shakedown.... Front of the balcony, Warren-side might have been the best seats in the house. Much better sound than on the floor, and the lights on the the beautiful interior... Gotta love the "spike" shooting down fromthe ceiling. Looks like a mothership, or a mushroom... Thanks for a great tour Phil!

I don't know that I can agree with the thought expressed above that the first set was a warmup. It was short, but hardly a warmup, from Patchwork Quilt until the end was an awesome jam that rocked the place. Mason's Children was driven, P&F plays this much "harder" than the Dead ever did. The jam into Mountains of the Moon was very sweet, and Night of 1,000 Stars has become a real power-house.

Second set was excellent, although I thought it started a little slow with Acadian Driftwood, not my favorite song for the band. Uncle John's was fun, though, bouncing along with that calypso beat that the quintet likes to give it, followed by a hot version of Deal, Phil singing strong. Shakedown Street was a great rocker, jamming out with a nice vocal outro before we got the true meat of the set, the Viola Lee sandwich. I thought they might jam something in between verses of the Other One (to give us a triple-decker), but they played both verses uninterupted before returning to Viola Lee, which then made way for a sweet Sugaree. Closing Viola Lee verse was awesome.

While waiting for the encores we saw them setting up an extra mike and when mini-Warren walked out with a red Gibson guitar I knew we were getting Dickey Betts. I know everybody was hoping for Blue Sky when Dickey walked out, but the Mountain Jam->GDTRFB->Mountain Jam->Bid You Goodnight intstrumental was awesome. Last night's show was shorter than Friday's, but lacked nothing in intensity or quality. I thought we were going to get Jimmy to sing (given all the sheets of paper with "Make Jimmy Sing" being handed out through the crowd and littering the stage) but it was not to be. Maybe tonight .

Tonight those signs will read "Please, Jimmy Sing." A little birdie told me.

And We Bid you Goodnight? Did I miss this? Did they do this after the lights came up and people started leaving?

And We Bid You Goodnight was instrumental only, like they often do at the end of GDTRFB.

Recently on tv (in a documentary he did about a performance in Tuscany this past Sept.) I saw Sting say he finds it extremely difficult to sing without playing, the two actions are so intertwined. When he wants to hear how the band sounds, he has to step out front and have someone else do his part. Maybe it's similar (but in reverse?) for Jimmy?

I'd like to hear him sing too (but I like singing). Maybe he thinks his vocal instrument pales next to his guitar; but Jimi and Jerry were no nightingales either, and they were so musical they were able to make lemonade out of lemons. Ultimately it's between Jimmy and his muse.

By the way, very good show last night. My wish is that they might break every now and then between songs (the dead did) and give the audience a chance to express our enjoyment. They don't have to play non-stop. Also I liked they took the coda (if that's the right name) at the end of UJB and jammed on that. It's such a lovely tune, it's good to hear them expand it. They almost did Mon night, and I was please to hear them do it Sat.

Awesome second set. From UJB on you couldn't ask for anything more.

however, for those people sitting in the back, right of the orchestra, the first set was very trying.

I'm posting this not to bitch or to bring people down, but to spread the word. first there was the door opening crap (so one kid could get his little rich-kid friends with baggy pants, fleece and matching back-packs in the door and then about a dozen of them came flooding in.)

Worse was the return to the Beacon of the world's biggest asshole, aka "the whistler". He was drunk and beligerent, shouting curses, yelling out shit - not to mention those ear-drum piercing whistles right in front of the tapers.

this guy has serious problems. he's been a distraction at other shows as well, but last night was something like i've never seen in 20 years of going to concerts. after several tries we got the security guards to throw him out. (on tapes of the show you'll probably hear the cheering during mountains of the moon when he got tossed out the door.)

It was an unfortunate incident in what has generally been a really good crowd during this run of shows.

If he's near you, don't tolerate his shit. He's sort of a stocky guy, fair complexion, short light-colored hair. If anybody knows this guy, tell him to get some help. Pretty much destroyed the first set for me.

sounds like a wonderful show. sorry to hear about the stuff going on with door opening and whistling . hopefully this person will be stopped.only two more nites. enjoy everyone.

Ok, a review before I read everybody else's. Met up with MikePthe11 before the show, much kindness, thanks again MikeP and Jackie.

Rolled into the Beacon, Row A lower Balcony great view of the boys, waited while the crowd filtered in, wondering what could they possibly play after last night . . . well, Jam into Alabama, ok Phil is going to rock us knew it from this point; while y'all are down south head on over to Tennessee Jed, thanks maybe I will . . . Patchwork Quilt very beautifully done into nice jam, sat down and collected my thoughts for . . . Mason's! Up and down the scales they go, still rocking by the way . . . into Phil's Beacon Berry Preserves, great on the toast that was my brain at that point, somewhere in here we all hear and confirm Scarlet, Uncle John's and Low Spark teases . . . not neccessarily in that order . . .some space . . . hey, you want this? Yeah, thanks, then Mts of the Moon, wow, ok, this is getting better and better, would you like some more jam for that toast? Yes, thank you. Gee, I didn't realize how much I liked night of 1000 stars . . . wow, what a set, hey is that your mind under your seat there? Why yes, yes it is. You mind holding it for me while I go find some water?

Ok, I'm back with water, collected my mind from under the seat, and prepared the toaster. Hi five to my NY home boy CC Rider, nice to see you, we gota do this more often . . . yeah but maybe we should train for it first . . . into Set II!

Acadian Driftwood> sweet song, very melodious, nice vocals, oh well, Maybe Phil is getting tired, but wait, some more Jam> what's that lovely calypso beat there, Warren strumming along, hey I know this, how does this song go . . . Uncle John's Band, yeah, hey, isn't this a repeat from the other night, well, maybe, but into UJB jam, hell no this ain't no repeat. Night and day difference between this UJB and others I had hear lately, can I say, um, meltdown, thank you Warren, thank you Jimmy, hey dude, you dropped your brain too, . . . into DEAL, super sweet, no I won't let it go down, not here, not now, not ever! Still rocking, this 61 year old guy has me on the ropes and I love it, still in there but reeling . . . Jammy jam into . . . shakedown street . . . gotta love that, another one but whose complaining . . . super groovy, how could this possibly get any better . . . VIOLA. There's a reason this is my favorite PLQ tune. This one into sick Jam into arguably the sickest Other One I have heard live, perhaps ever from any media, Phil on the opening Riff to formally mark the beginning of the song, gungaga gungaga gungaga gungaga GONGGGGGG!!!!! Knocked me off my feet into my seat for a split second, brain is now splattered all over the guy behind me, luckily he doesn't mind, nod, smiles, no time to talk, just groove . . . Huge other one, shaking heads in disbelief and joy, jammy jam- back into Viola, ear to ear grin, gotta love these guys, how do they do it! Did I mention that I love Viola? Yeah? OK, just checking. Into Sugaree, like, all my favorite Jerry songs are being played here tonight . . . Warren, love the soul on that one, well done again my man, beautiful strumming jam, Jimmy is singing, though he doesn't need a mike to do it (how about a "Give Jimmy A Mic" signs, take it one step at a time, so to speak?) > BACK into Viola, holy cow, take a breath of fresh, scrape the remaining brain cells of the seat, aw screw it they're shot anyway . . . Phil spreading the vibes, "Give yourselves a hand" Damn straight, Sheeewwww!! And we had the gall to wonder how he could possibly top last night, geez . . . more smiles, hey man can I borrow that pen and copy that list - - what? oh yeah, did you hear the Scarlet tease in that Set 1 Jam, yep! Hey, did we get a true space there? Um, yeah, I think so! Wow! Look! They are bringing out an amp and a mic stand!!!! Could it be, that Jazz dude who is in NY? Greg Osby? Yeah, no wait, there's no sax mike . . . er, maybe he has the thing in the end of it . . . but there's Warren's guitar tech checking a guitar, who the hell is is? Trey? no way, um, wait, there's a good lookin country chap over there talking to Jimmy, who the hell is it? Its . . .its . . . Dicky Betts!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOOOOOOOOOO_HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!, doh! sorry Dicky, YEEEEEEEEEEEEE_HAAAWWWWWWWWWWW! I think that Mt Jam is finally coming our way!!!! He's still got it! Warren and Dicky trading licks, awesome, sweet GDTRFB, Dicky figured it out and Rocked it, back into Mt Jam, some body pinch me, the balcony is rocking as it has been all night, on fire Bid you Goodnight instrumental to close, thank you thank you thank you PLQ.

Some thoughts, Warren is on fire, Jimmy woke up some and rocked me, need to turn that boy up to 11, (though Warren will have to go to 12, but I don't think I have a problem with that). Phil dropped some large 5000 pound bunker busters, he's a freaking B-1! John Molo beat me from the left while Phil applied the rights . . . somebody get me some water . . .Rob can make mean mojo with that Hammond, mmmmm, Hammond Jam . . .Awesome show, my mind (or what's left of it, see above) can't possibly apply verbage to the wonderful sights and sounds of Phil at the Beacon . . . Peace on Earth, Goodwill Towards Men . . . anybody got a download of this show yet????

"Phil's super duper Beaconberry Preserves! One for three, two for five . . ."

Here's my story:
I showed up at the theatre without a ticket at 5:30 PM and proceeded to walk around directly in front of the entrance for a good forty minutes with my finger in the air. At this point I decided to move across the street downtown. I am instantly approached with an offer of a ticket for $150. I decline. Not long afterwards I purchase a ticket for $60. A rip off, but I'm glad to have a ticket. I walk uptown 20 blocks to meet some guys before the show. We walk over to a mexican restaurant, they get enchiladas and I get a Pineapple Mexican soda, saving my money for a cab after the show. We make our way back to the theatre and decide to go in at 7:45. My friends enter in front of me and I'm following when the usher says, "Not real." I'm shocked and complain "I just paid sixty bucks for that." He goes on to say, "This guy's been getting a lot of people." So I walk back outside and stand in front of the theatre until 8:30 or so, hoping for a miracle but with no luck.
The moral? It doesn't pay to be trusting; some people are assholes.

Hope you all had a good show ...

Tross
Go on Monday I'm sure you'll get a "miracle".The word Monday translated means day of miracles, have a good show(wherever you go).

Great second set! Un-friggin-believable!

Not too verbose I hope, I just don't feel like being loquacious tonight.

The first set opened with a jam>Alabama Getaway that was rockin' and completely unexpected by my friend and I. The set then slowed down and bit. It was wellplayed but a bit sleepy until Mason's Children kicked in. Some of the jams wandered without much rhythm with the players not really gaining any forward momentum. Warren would just noodle while Molo would just play accents when he should've been setting a firm beat in my opinion. It seems the PLQ jams better within the context of songs than during the connector jams between songs. This was my first time hearing Night of 1000 Stars live and the tune really won me over. It rocked with some really lovely guitar work too.

The second set started pleasantly with a jam>Accadian Driftwood but this tune just doesn't set my soul on fire. Things began to cook though when they started UJB. It was taken at a fast tempo and had a long intro that had everyone dancing around me in the balcony. They jammed it into Deal which took me completely by surprise. I didn't even know PLQ had been playing this song. None of the songs I called were played tonight and thats a good thing, Phil kept things as wonderfully unpredictable as ever. Phil dropped a great bomb to kick off a hot Shakedown that had me dancing until I was sweating.
And my frenzied dancing continued on into the forceful Viola Lee that followed. The Other One in the middle of it featured Phil dropping the signature bombs of the intro. Phil also seemed to sing different words to part of the first verse but it could've just been him mumbling. They brought it back into the raging Viola Lee and then into a Sugaree that had my favorite guitar and vocal work from Warren this evening. I love the way he sings it.

My friend's call that there'd be a guest that evening came true for the encore. I was whooping with anticipation when they set up an extra mike and monitor. I never would've guessed Dickey Betts but I was excited as all heck since he didn't play with the ABB this summer when I sam thew with Phil. We were treated to Mt. Jam>GDTRFB>Mt. Jam>Bid You Goodnight.
Dickey was obviously having fun playing. He danced around as he traded licks with Jimmy and Warren and even sang a verse of GDTRFB.

The crowd was great too. The place was packed since the show was sold out (did all 7 nights at the Beacon sell out?) The sidewalk outside was filled with dreadlocked x-heads playing their bad rap on boomboxes looking for miracles. Inside everyone was dancing. I was up in the balcony but the view was great. I loved being able to see the details of the band interacting without having to rely on bioculars or the jumbotrons like I did on the lawn this summer. The sound was great too. Loud and clear with only the vocals seeming a bit indistinct in clarity (though this could've just been the singers mumbling) . My only gripe is that people kept walking in front of me going on beer runs while I was dancing. I'd have to stop to let them through every minute or so. I don't understand why people have to buy $5 beers to enjoy the show. i'm drug and alcohol free and get completely high on the music alone and feel darn good about it. (hurray for the Wharf Rats!)

It's impossible to compare this show to the previous night show or anything the Grateful Dead did. Each Phil night is unique and unpredictable unlike the Dead from the late 70s>90s (where each song fit into a "slot" so that both sets were rather predictable) Phil and the boys are apt to play any song at any time in either set. None of the songs my friend or I predicted were played (with the exception of Shakedown) because Phil is so full of surprises. It was beautiful.

I'm excited about the spring tour. I hope PLQ play here in Philly.

-XsebastianX !!!

Finally got your Viola Bucky

The first set was just perfect for me from Patchwork Quilt onward. The first two songs were really well done but not what I wanted to hear, never was or will be a fan of Tennessee Jed. But from Quilt forward this show was all one could ask for. The jams from Quilt to Masons to Moon were amazing, three of my favorite songs blended together perfectly. I've been dying to hear Arcadian Driftwood again since 4/27 in Philly (also my only other Patchwork Quilt) so it was the perfect set opener for me although I could tell half the crowd didn't even know what song it was, too bad, it was worthy of a better reception. A mind meld with the crowd occured during the UJB double time intro that didn't let go for the rest of the show, an amazing synchronicity of band and audience that only occurs at the best of times. My wife, who does no drugs of any kind, turned to me with this look on her face that said "What was that??!!" It was all gravy from there on in, and my mind was filled with thoughts of Dick Latvala and how much he would have loved this set. He loved the Beacon, the Allman Brothers,Warren, and Viola Lee, so to see a Viola Lee like this one, chopped up into neat sections filled with Other Ones and Sugarees would have put him in heaven. I was wearing a t-shirt that he gave me when we first met ("They Keep On Coming") and when Phil announced Dicky Betts for the encore I turned to my wife with tears in my eyes and said "Where are you Dick?", he would have loved this band so much and to see a set like this, in this place, capped off with a Dicky Betts visit, would have been joyful for him. I wish you were here Dick!!!

The Beacon is a great place, but like anything else in NYC it makes you work for your good time. Didn't notice the whistler, we were in the left section of the loge so I guess we were far enough away to be out of earshot of his BS. It seems to me that the only really great seats in that place are the orchestra seats that aren't under the balcony; everything else is either under a roof (back of floor, loge) or up in the balcony were it looked so steep that I'm afraid I'd get vertigo sitting up there! But the energy level is out of this world and when the synch hits like it did during the UJB intro watch out!

One other note. Warren played his ES-335 Gibson a lot both friday and saturday and it made all the difference on a few songs (Unbroken Chain, Guitar Gently Weeps, Eyes), a wonderful softer sound with just a touch of that hollow body feedback at times, great stuff, glad he switched from the solid bodies he usually uses exclusivly.

More:
Dicky Betts! Mountain Jam!!!! Going Down The Road! Mountain Jam!!!! Instrumental We Bid You Goodnight! Three Lead Guitarists, playing in a somewhat synchronized mode, albeit a millisecond apart, gave the encore a real Southern Rock flavor. It was interesting to see Warren change from his freeform Phil and Friends mode into his Allman Brothers Band mode. He's quite the guitar virtuoso.

If Weir plays Cream Puff War tonight I'll go home happy.

The encore jam began with a NFA jam, it was very pronounced and went on for a while before easing into the Mountain jam theme. The three guitarists worked very well together, no stumbling over each other, although I thought Dickey was a little tentative due to the fact that he was playing Warrens ES-335, not his regular soild body sound, but he was great. Wished they'd done Blue Sky but you could tell from the one verse he sang that he wasn't up for singing.

Also, the set list as noted on this site is a bit off. They definately stopped after both Alabama and Tennessee Jed, I remember thinking that it was the first time I'd seen these guys open a show with two "single" songs. Also, as I recall, Arcardian Driftwood was not a stand alone but jammed into UJB. They did stop after Deal, but I think the first three songs of the second set were non stop.

PHIL DADDY

what a weekend...was at friday and saturday and, combined with ground zero and strawberry fields, had a very reflective weekend in a very special place.

thanks phil, rob, jimmy, warren, and john.

especially rob for waving to me and my boys up in the balcony at the beginning of the show.

he sounded very good this weekend.

PHILDADDY PHILDADDY!!!!!!!!

Good time had by all this weekend!

PHIL> ROCKS!

Thanks you to the NJ transit for puttin up with our ass!!!

I gotta disagree with Sebastian.....When in the hell were hte Dead ever predictable in the late 70's.....I hope you ain't talkin about 77...

...i believe its called acadian driftwood, on the setlist its misspelled.

I deleted 2 attempts at a review for this show already. They were just too negative. I'll just say this show is one of my least favorite Phil shows attended. Could not even approach Friday night's bliss.

I was right there for the whistler. I could not believe that is was possible for anyone to be as much of an asshole as this guy.

That's funny. It just goes to show that it is all in the eye of the beholder. I thought Saturday was SO MUCH better than Friday.

INFIDELS WELCOME HERE.


signed, a young mel.

I thought that they were both great but saturday had the edge for me, the crowd sining along during UJB just locked it in for me big time, total synchronicity from there on in. So much of your enjoyment of a show is dependant on your physical space in terms of location and who's around you. It's impossible to enjoy the best show if there's some asshole causing a commotion near you. Sorry to hear that the Whistler was around to ruin a good thing for so many folks. What kind of karmic debt is that guy ringing up anyway?

i will say there were a lot of people yuckin it up all night in the second level (saturday)....but being that i was with my boys (driver, skin, et al) and i spotted a long lost bud from college - phil's magic ruled the night(s)...

Muadib
I feel your pain
I was there Sat night too

bottom line? I had a good time

wasn't at the show but SO DAMN GLAD to hear the whistler got the boot! He came close to ruining two shows for me. Remember NEVER to tolerate his shit and i know it sounds sad but don't be afraid to take matters into your own hands, this guy doesn't deserve a morcel of respect

>>>Finally got your Viola Bucky


Yeah. Maybe Phil threw that colossal Other One in there just for me........

BTW, a kid walking next to me afterwards asked me what that song was 'between The Other One'.
"Viola Lee Blues".
Then, what'd they play before it?
"Shakedown Street"
"Oh, I paid an usher $25 to get in the side door during that song".
"Don't worry, you didn't miss a thing. You saw all you needed to see...."


I must say that there's a few things I've read here about this show that I'd disagree with.

Dick Betts hardly moved at all, let alone 'danced around'. He was much more annimated when he was in the ABB. He actually spent the first half of that jam with his back to the audience checking out the other band members....

Phil opened The Other One with ONE big bass blast, not the traditional 'rumble' the Dead did.

More on that stuff in my review.......

tell me more about Dickey!

First Set:

We went to our wonderful 2nd to last row in the upper balconey seats, courtesy of GDTS. Even cupping my hands around my ears didn't make the sound loud enough.....

They opened with a short, go nowhere jam, which seemed to be the norm on this tour, one of several disturbing trends I noticed, but that's a discussion for later this week...

I heard a hint of Big RR, then Alabama started. A very average version, even for the Dead, let alone P&F. Let's just say I wasn't reminded of 4-6-00's version. They even cut an instrumental out (another disturbing trend).

Up next was an average Tennessee Jed. Just when they could really start wailing, the song's over (Ditto on the trends).

Patchwork Quilt started off good, a decent 1st instrumental, but the 2nd instrumental barely existed (see above...).

They jammed out of Patchwork & went into Mason's Children. This was good, not awesome as it has the potential to be. I really wish they'd stay in the the hard rockin' powerful tempo of this song instead of spacing out between verses. Still, it was solid.
After Mason's a longer jam insued that ended with about a 5 minute lead-in to Low Spark jam. Just when I thought they'd play it, they went into Mtns of the Moon. A mellow tune, there was a couple of decent instrumentals, but they never reached the peak like previous versions I've seen & heard.

They came out & did a 2 minute theme which I've only heard on 4-6-00 in the 2nd set. A nice piece, but for the life of me, I can't place the name of what song it is....
Any Help?
As soon as this ended, they went into 1000 Stars. A good solid set ender, longer & a bit more jammed out of it in the 2nd part than last Monday, but not as strong or tight.

Afterwards, my friends & I thought it was an OK set, but no great shakes either (another disturbing trend among 1st sets...).

I had made up my mind to go find a certain Zoner who had offered to get me into the orchestra. I turned around, & guess who's standing behind us in the last row?
Yes, Mr Orchestra himself.....

2nd Set, Part I:

Mr O's being there was a coincidence, and I asked him & his friend what they thought of the 1st set.
"That set BLEW" "That SUCKED!" or something very similar was their responses......

We indeed got down to the floor, saw SJF & said hello. The lights went out, & we ended up spending the 2nd set beside him & his friends in the aisle, along with about 2 or 300 others in what amounted to a general admission show. Somehow, I found I had a seat in front of me to lean on, a nice plus when you've got as many low back, leg, knee & feet problems as I do.....

The set started with a slow, mundane 'jam'. Maybe it was just the intro to the slow & mundane 'Acadian Driftwood'....

They went quickly into a solid, if not great UJB. A fairly short lead-in as Jimmy took the lead. Jimmy took the lead in the 1st instrumental too, one of the few times all night he stepped up (another disturbing trend). The 2nd instrumental was good, but short as they didn't do the standard part where they mellow out before ending the song.
The guy next to us screaming the lyrics at the top of his lungs was a nice plus, but people who sneak into the orchestra can't be choosey.....

This led in a bluesy sounding jam that hinted at & became the Deal, a good, but not great version which featured some of the only dualing leads of the night.

I thought they'd stop & I get my Viola at long last.
Instead, they did a short jam that came to a stop & WAWNG! the 1st note of Shakedown started. I turned to my wife & said "I'll NEVER see Viola".

Shakedown was it's usual self. Warren's wah-wah sound was great, but even shorter than Monday's. About 2 minutes out of the final verse, Warren stopped it & a more standard jam kicked in.

It was about this time I resigned myselfto the fact that I was a seeing a ggod, but not great show, certainly nothing special.....

average Tenn Jed?

More like below average (of one of my least favorite dead songs.)

good, but not great deal?

More like a crappy pathetic attempt. (of another of my least favorite dead songs)

Doh! Maudib-- TennJed and Deal are two of my faves.....
waiting for the rest of Bucky's saga

2nd Set, Part II:

Boy, was I in for a surprise, especially based on the level of play during the 1st 2 hours of this show.......

The jam after Shakedown led into the recently common Middle Eastern sounding space, very nice.

Then, I finally got my Viola. They started it & SJF shook my hand.....

They jammed on the song nicely for a few minutes & sang the 1st verse, then jammed it out for a decent length of time before taking the turn towards the usual song in the middle.

Now, if you know P&F, you know at times they tease certain songs & don't play them. I've seen them do it hundreds of times by now, especially with certain songs, The Other One being one of them. But, there is also a specific way P&F start TOO when they're going to play it, & they did that part this night without teasing the song at all. I just pumped my fist & said "YEAH!".

Now, I've seen the Dead do a 19 minute TOO (4-23-83), I saw the huge 4-23 (good day for TOO's)-00 P&F version, but this one was by FAR the best I've seen, & I can say without much doubt that it was the best TOO played since 11-5-77.

They started playing it & built it to a huge cresendo. Then, Phil hit that one huge bass riff & started the song similar to the old days with the Dead. A frenzy of power, one, maybe 2 or more incredible peaks as they just kept ripping it up. A very fast tempo, & then the basic 'dah duh dunt, dah duh dunt' part not 4 times like the Dead used to do before Bob started jumping in too soon, but about 5 or 6 times through the basic rythym.
Then, out of the verse with a bit more of TOO before spacing out in a way very similar to how the Dead go out of the 1st verse on 1-22-78 in Eugene. Rob especially sounded like what Keith played that night.....

I too thought another verse of Viola was coming, then TOO vII. Instead after a few minutes of wandering around, they headed back & Phil hit another huge bomb to restart vII. Another huge build-up, they sanmg vII, then jammed out with more of TOO before winding back to Viola.

The 2nd verse went out & led into a huge meltdown of space like I've never heard by P&F before, AWESOME.

Then Sugaree. A short 1st verse, then the usually great jamming after the next 2. Instead of a stop one/start the other transition, they did a jam like Sugaree but a bit mellower that flowed back to Viola. More jamming on Viola, then they sang the 3rd verse & did a big build-up ending that kept going & going.

So now the encore.
I honestly was thinking (or hoping) 'Blue Sky', but really expected that my St Stephen streak was about to reach 6 straight shows.

From where I was, I couldn't see what the workers were doing as they added the wiring & equipment for another guitar.
Then Phil did the intros & announced Dickey Betts as the place went nuts.

Dickey, a bit heavier & with short hair. He went over & gave Warren a polite but stiff seeming handshake.
Everyone there was expecting Blue Sky, me included. SJF says "Mountain Jam > Jessica > Blue Sky". I laughed.

As soon as Dickey hit his 1st riffs, I thought "That's the sound I miss at the ABB". I know his problems, but something's missing without him.....

They began with a slow noodly jam. Dickey sounded fine & I don't think he seemed drunk.

Things picked up a bit & they broke into the Mountain Jam theme. I would call what they did a 'Mountain Jam jam'. They jammed off the basic melody, they did not do the song through it's various themes.
Still, it was great. They wandered off & we found them at GDTRFB. A hot version. Dickey took a solo. Warren took another. They back, & Dickey sang the "Momma don't you let me go down there" verse the ABB do on their acoustic version. His mic was too low, but not his guitar.

They went out of GDTRFB & did a 2nd instrumental with Dickey leading the way (P&F usually does only one instrumental). Instead of finishing GDTRFB, they found their way back to Mtn Jam, then after a few minutes, doing the And We Bid You Goodnight instrumental ending to GDTRFB. Very sweetly played.

Dickey's playing was good. At one point, he & Warren were trading leads & seemed like the music was bridging the gap of whatever tension, or just discomfort there was or is between them. Hopefully, it will be the start of some bridges that need to be mended getting done.....

An excellent & unexpected surprise jam for an encore. It was like a sweet desert after a great main course of, say, Filet Mignon & Shrimp (The Viola Jam). I even remarked to my friends that the show seemed to be like a dinner of many courses: They gave us plain bread, Alabama, Tenn Jed & Patchwork. Then, a tossed salad from Mason's to 1000 Stars, Followed by some nice Hors Dovrs (I know, spelled wrong) like UJB, Deal & Shakedown before the killer main course of Viola et all. Then we get the chocolate Mousse desert with Dickey.

I would love to hear this portion of the show, from Viola on, released as a SBD. There was so much going on, it was hard to take it all in at one sitting.

I would have to say it was probably the best 'thing' I've ever seen P&F do.

Sorry, BOTB. Don't hate me for it.

Maybe it was my state of mind which ruined alot of this show for me. Mountains of the Moon is one of my favorite slow songs, and this jerk was screaming the lyrics to Rider at the top of his lungs.
TOO was incredible, and I thought UJB was superb.

If anyone knows the name and address of The Whistler, please post it, as I do believe he owes me something like $19.75.

Thank you, Phil & band, for playin yer asses off in the 2nd set to more than compensate for this guy's behavior.

Toll at GWB=$6
Parking at West End Ave garage=$17
Dinner=$37.75
Two bottles of Beacon water=$6
Most of 1st set of your only show of the tour ruined by alcoholic fan with serious psychiatric problems=$19.75

Big ole Viola Lee sandwhich in
2nd set=PRICELESS!!!!

Maudib, I ain't never even considered hating you(do you have some secret sin I don't know about?)....hear you're a straight shooter, so maybe we all oughtta call you sir

"I know his problems, but something's missing without him..... "
Thank you Bucky!!!!!!!!

Good for Dickey, good for Warren, good for Phil....proud of all y'all

>I gotta disagree with Sebastian.....When in the >hell were hte Dead ever predictable in the late >70's.....I hope you ain't talkin about 77...

christian, i was referring more to '78-79 but even in 77 there were some strong patterns regarding which tunes were "1st set material" and which were "2nd set material" Sure the dead threw in many surprises but I think Phil is more unpredictable (though even he has some oft-played combos)

in the interest of candor...
I AM MR. ORCHESTRA!
(thanks for maintaining my anonymity, Buck )

excellent review , dude
show didn't do much for me till shakedown > on as well and unforutnately by then I was the Bitter Guy
couldn't agree more that stuff that used to be there in tunes just isn't ( or wasn't this night ) anymore

brutal song selection in the first set for the "big" Saturday night NYC show

Jimmy " My Man " was virtually non existent for long periods. that really bummed me

oh well

pleasure meeting you and the Mrs. again ( keyshawn, SJF, Jill & friends as well )

see ya all next go round
brick

Wow- i must say that i am surprised by some of the reviews of this show. it was like i was at a totally different show than most of you.
>below average tennessee<- i thought tenn jed rocked, and the crowd seemed to be into it. same with deal. it was by no means "crappy". whether you like the song or not, nothing p&f plays is "crappy"
as far as this just being a"good show" and "nothing special," i couldn't disagree more. the energy that was flowing through the beacon on both friday and saturday was unlike anything i have experienced in a while. i was happy to be there, to be in NYC, and to be a part of the scene once more. it was a reflective weekend, going to WTC and strawberry fields, and then to cap it all off with the best rock and roll band around, it was magical.

i will agree with the one theme of these reviews- that viola was SMOKIN'!!!

that is my 2 cents.

Hey Bucky.....stop trying to be a rock critic. It was a decent show. The second set definately beat the first by a long shot....but these are some of the tunes they are going to record in the spring so they are going to get playing time whether you like it or not. By the way....Night of 1000 stars gets better and better every time I hear it. It was decent this past spring and summer and it rocked in Bethlehem and I thought it smoked in NYC. I liked Fri night better than Sat...but you know what...who cares. I used to get tired of all those stupid ass heads that complained every time they went to a gdamn show. Don't go then......Opinions are like a holes....every ones got one and most of them stink.

PHILDADDY,
Skin

BY the way Bucky...Try to Dance and not just stand there....Maybe you will like it better.

PHILDADDY

well said skinman-

If you don't like the shows you are seeing, then DON'T buy a ticket and let someone who wants to hear what they play get one.

Basically put, STOP complaining and enjoy the fact that we still have PHIL to go see.

Rock on brothers.

You know JW as I read his review again I get the feeling that all this guy does is compare what he says he heard to what he hears now...Bucky you have absolutely too much time on your hands to be comparing these shows to a show that happened 25 years ago in Eugene....do forget your name sometimes dude. You have got to get a grip on reality. Try having a good time next show...Jesus I hope I never have to sit next to you.

in defense of Bucky, which is a dangerous thing, I know, what did he write that is even mildly offensive or worthy of the comments you folks are throwing his way now?

he called it like he saw it-
I thought thats what this board is for
I don't hear complaining
"good, not great" Personally, I think he's being kind...

I'm not/wasn't complaining and I trust I wasn't bringing anyones head down around me at the show

lighten up, get the tapes, listen for yourself and offer up an opinion

I'll go back but I can't say this show moved me like past P & F's.

its no big deal

The nature of improv is that some shows reach heights that others don't. Granted, phil heads are spoiled by the consistency at which the band reaches those heights, but its ok to recognize when the show you just heard makes a show you heard earlier sound even better by comparison.

>Basically put, STOP complaining and enjoy the fact that we still have PHIL to go see.

I guess that means no one should bother writing reviews. Just post the setlist and think everything was played perfect.
I wasn't trying to complain. I was just saying that out of the 25-30 times I saw Phil, this show was in the bottom 5. Still better than 99% of the music out there...
I also find it funny that people are jumping on Bucky for saying "good, not great" and nobody seemed to mind that I said it was a "pathetic attempt". I guess it's just trendy to pick on Bucky.

i got on you for saying "pathetic attempt," though i did not quote you directly.

i understand the idea of a review. but you are using the word "pathetic" in reference to phil, and that is just wrong.

It makes sense to me that he's comparing it to shows 25+ years ago. Those are the years that the Dead and Phil were comparable ...

Huh?

come on

do you REALLY believe that?

There is no comparison - two different bands!!!!!!

agreed! Phil and the Dead have very different jamming styles. Even the Dead tunes that Phil does have their unique vocal and instrumental interpretations. I like the PLQ for being who they are not for being a recreation of the Dead. If I wanted a recreation of the Dead'd past glories I'd go see the Dark Star Orchestra (who are playing here in Philly this saturday)because they cover whole Dead shows live song for song. Phil and Warren, and Rob, and John are covering new ground. A fine example is the "Inspiration jam" from Charlotte 8/4/01-- now would the Dead have ever done an amazing thing like that? I think not.

The Dead were great and so is Phil but Phil's band has 4 other non-Dead musicians who bring their own styles to the stage and the five combined create something fresh, fun, amazing and unique!

i love you all.
-XsebastianX

Phil has set the bar so high on certain nights that when the one show you go to on tour does not rock your world it is somewhat of a disapointment. That doesnt mean dont go. My entertainment dollar only goes so far and right now Phil is one of the few shows i have the time or desire to see. Show was good..not great but I saw some old friends, met some new ones nad had an excellent time regardless of what the boys did or did not do on stage. That said...Jimmy needs to step up and wail end of story. See you all next time.

I believe I compared a THIRTY SECOND passage of music to 1-22-78 in a 3 & 1/2 hour show.

And if you don't think P&F gets ideas & inspiration from past Dead history, you're wrong.
It's just not possible to play in the Dead for 30 years & not draw on that. And, the other guys, like Rob & Jimmy played in Dead-inspired bands, so you know they've heard their fair share of Dead shows......

And, some of you complaining about my review probably can't even remember the song list, let alone the passages between the songs.

And how do you know I DON'T dance?
I went to 50 Dead shows at least where I never saw the inside of the arena because I was dancing in the halls.
Did it ever dawn on you that I might be handicapped now, oh you of so much PC retoric? Don't assume, because you don't know why I don't do what YOU think I should do to enjoy a show...
At least standing next to me, you wouldn't hear talking or get smoke blown in your face.

I really believe that 70s Dead is the only era that is comparable to what Phil's doing. Note: I said comparable, as in could be compared to. SO what I mean is I think what Phil is doing now is like what the Dead were doing in the 70s, late 60s. That doesn't mean I don't like the rest of the time the Dead played, I have quite a few very nice shows after the seventies. I just think it was very different in style and song selection as the years went by

bucky kicks whistler ass

I heard from Jill that the Whistler was forcably evicted on Saturday night.....

Maybe they should have thrown me, Brick & Muabid out for not thinking every second of the show was the 2nd coming of 2-13-70.
Although the last 70 minutes was a good imitation......

Never heard 2-13-70 .......

>Never heard 2-13-70 .......

Dude, what are you waiting for?

>At least standing next to me, you wouldn't hear talking or get smoke blown in your face.

I really do try not to blow it in people's faces.

>>>>At least standing next to me, you wouldn't hear talking or get smoke blown in your
face.

Although on Sunday, you might have had to deal with a few burps that smelled like Peking Duck....

PeKING DUCK!!!!
From the moment they started "Viola" through and including the ultra surprise encore...it wasn't LIKE 30-35 years ago...it WAS 30-35 years ago!!!
The "Space" in the 2nd verse of "Viola" welllllll...all I can say is......................BRAVISIMO!!!!
To Phil, Warren, Jimmy, Rob, John AND the PeKING Duck chefs at the Peking Duck House on Sunday...we tip our caps to YOU!!!
And...good to meet you too, Gerry, although at the moment I did, my eyes were spinning counterclockwise!!! LOL

Bucky leave it to you to tell evryone how many shows you saw dead or otherwise. Enough said...I wish you owuld go away.

See you in the spring

I think that you have to take each show as it is. Phil is NOT the dead, obviously. he is doing some different things with the same music, and like sebastian said, he is playing with non-dead members in warren, jimmy, rob and john. inevitably you will get a different sound now from what the dead did in 1970 or whatever year.

i love this music, and i love being around other people that do too. i certainly repect the opinions of the other heads in here, don't get me wrong. but you can't expect to hear 2-13-70 every time phil gets up on stage, or even at all. I enjoy phil for what phil does, not what the dead did 30 years ago.

and the only problem that anyone sitting around me might have is an occasional bump while i am getting my groove on...

rock on brothers.

tylerross email me your address and ill send you the meat of 2/13/70

I disagree with Buckeys' take on everything before Viola, but I respect his right to his opinion, everyone experiences a show differently. He certainly didn't say anything that deserves the kind of harsh comments a a few folks have thrown his way. It sounds to me that he was having a hard time enjoying material he didn't want to hear, and as soon as he heard something he wanted to hear (Viola) it was ok. I also think your take on the first set suffered greatly from being in the upper balcony, you can't enjoy the music if you can't hear it and with this band the subtle parts are very important. I was in the 8th row of the loge on the left hand side and had to cup my ears to get the full effect most of the night, but the music was definately happeneing. I didn't want to hear Alabama Getaway or especially Tennessee Jed in any way, shape, or form, but it was a hot version (Jed) as could be told from the crowd reaction, everyone singing along (which is one reason I hate it so much, I had a guy behind me screaming in my ear the entire song). I'm partial to Patchwork Quilt so I was glad to hear it, but like Arcadian Driftwood (another song I'm partial to and wanted to hear) the crowd isn't very familier with it so the energy level (from the crowd, not the stage) usually drops a bit when it is played. The secret with this band is to adjust to what they're giving you instead of resisting it because it's not what you want, kind of like life, heh? I thought that the first set was well played, not the best ever, and left plenty of energy available for the second set. It's really unusual to see two smoking sets back to back and I'd rather have the energy saved for the second set. It wasn't the greatest Mountians of the Moon but I'll always take one, and I thought that there was a real thread connecting everything from Quilt onward in that set, no drifting at all. As far as Uncle John's Band, I don't see how that version can be called anyhing but smoking, the intro went on forever with Herring just tearing up the double time intro and it was like a big orgasm in that place when they finally broke into the vocals. As I said before, I ususally hate it when there's a lot of crowd singing but from where we were sitting the whole effect was to send shivers up my spine, the entire crowd was totally focused on that stage, which by that point had become an alembic. Also, Dickey Betts was moving around like he had a neurological disorder of some kind, if he moves more then that when he's with the Allmans he must be truley spasmodic.

i whole heartedly agree with melvin

>The secret with this band is to adjust to what they're giving you instead of resisting it because it's not what you want, kind of like life, heh?<

a very good take for this situation.

melvin, i too was on the left side of the loge, about 4 or 5 rows up. it was a good time up there, with a bunch of chill people around us.
glad that you enjoyed yourself man.

rock on

If Buck had his way this would be the setlist for the Beacon run:

First Night:
Viola > Jam > Cryptical > Viola > Jam > Other One > Dark Star > Jam > Cryptical > Dark Star > St. Stephen > Dark Star > Viola > Dark Star > Viola > The Eleven

Second Night:
Viola > Jam > Cryptical > Viola > Jam > Other One > Dark Star > Jam > Cryptical > Dark Star > St. Stephen > Dark Star > Viola > Dark Star > Viola > The Eleven

Third Night:
Viola > Jam > Cryptical > Viola > Jam > Other One > Dark Star > Jam > Cryptical > Dark Star > St. Stephen > Dark Star > Viola > Dark Star > Viola > The Eleven

ETC....

I'd love this show, if there're any tapers out there reading this. My list is at www.tapetrader.com/tedray Trade or b&p either is fine. I have lots of Allmans, Phil, Feat, Derek, etc. Please lemme know, Ted

Rev...now THAT's a setlist!!!
Give us THAT!

hey Truant
theres no room for reason here

did that epiphany come to you while Jimmy WASN'T taking his lead in Tenn jed?

amp count:
Warren 4 plus
Jimmy: one

whats wrong with this picture?

don't even get me started on Warrens' slide

that said, can't wait for the next mail away...

right on Rev.!!! a strong setlist by anyone's- even someone who was at EVERY single dead show-opinion!!

rock on

>even someone who was at EVERY single dead show-opinion!!

Does anyone have a realistic count of the # of people who can legitimately make this claim?

I would have to guess less than 100 and more than liley less than 20, if you exclude family and crew.

Set the wayback machine Sherman!

BTW Bucky, I liked your review and respect your opinion of the music then and now.

BTWII
I don't keep a running set list; usually too involved and busy having a great time. Make of that what you will.

Last but not least, I believe that one's perception of any given show is proportional to the number of shows seen recently. If you only see one, then its the best one. If you see more than one, try to see them as diifferent, not better or worse.

peace!

I would guess none confidently Headlight

>Does anyone have a realistic count of the # of people who can legitimately make this claim?

I would guess four
Jerry, Bobby, Billy, and Phil

i guess you didn't pick up on my sarcasm....
that's too bad because i was laying it on pretty thick.

>if you have seen more than one, don't see them as better or worse, see them as different, not better or worse.

thank you headlight.

i refer to one of my earlier comments.
take each show as it is.

rock on

sorry for the redundancy in my first comment there. stopped paying attention for a minute

>>>but it was a
hot version (Jed) as could be told from the crowd reaction,

The crowd reaction is always like they're playing awesome....


>>>As far as Uncle John's Band, I don't see
how that version can be called anyhing but smoking, the intro went on forever

I would say about TWO minutes.
Wanna hear one that goes on forever? Put on 4-23-00.

>>>it sounds to
me that he was having a hard time enjoying material he didn't want to hear, and as
soon as he heard something he wanted to hear (Viola) it was ok.

I would have to disagree with that. Good is good, great is great. If Viola > TOO > Viola > Space had been played at the same level as what preceeded it, I wouldn't have been as blown away & would've said so.

For example, I was waiting a long time to see Dancin'. The version I finally got, 7-21-00 was decent, but nothing to write home to Phil about.
Why did I like 11-26 so much when it was my 5th straight show with St Stephen & 3rd Help > Slip > Franklin's in 5 shows? And do you think I was wanting a 2nd set Just a Little Light, Celebration & that new song, No More Do I?
The reason I liked that show was because it was played great.....


>>>BTWII
I don't keep a running set list; usually too involved and busy having a great time. Make
of that what you will.

I am too.
I just happen to have been blessed with an unusually large amount of memory retention (right Keysh?). Make of that what you will.....

And finally, Rev:
Everyone knows it's Dark Star > The Other One, not TOO > Dark Star. And St Stephen > The Eleven.
But, I like the way you think....

geez when did death dont have fall off the face of the earth...its a common denominator in my fantasies

Bucky, the crowd reaction is far from "like they're always playing awesome". You're showing just a touch of elitism here. Someone made a comment about one of the earlier shows on this tour that the crowd seemed like it was suffering from narcolepsy, which is what I thought of the crowd at 4/27/01 which was a great show by all accounts, including mine. I rememeber looking around at the crowd at one point during that show and half the folks where just about nodding out. Certain songs might consistantly bring out a little more energy from the crowd, and Tennessee Jed certainly seems to be one of those songs (much to my dismay), but to say flat out that the crowds at Phil shows are uniformly enthusiastic is a bit of a stretch IHO. Additionally, finally getting a Dancin' and finally getting a Viola is like finally getting kissed and finally getting laid, the level of impact between those two songs can't be compared IMO. And who knows why you reacted better at certain shows then others other then you? Maybe you finally got some decent acid for all I know. The number of elements that go into producing a "good" or "great" show for an individual are too numerous and subjective to even begin contemplating. I'll simply stick by my opinion that most of what was played prior to Viola Lee Blues on this night was of the same caliber as what followed, and I'll bet the recordings back me up. I know three other folks at the show that, combined with me, have over 100 years of experience going to shows and they all LOVED IT! But in the end, "I guess it doesn't matter anyway". Or as someone else once said, "The love you take is equal to the love you make."

melvin makes a couple of very good points.

>> Everyone knows it's Dark Star > The Other One, not TOO > Dark Star. And St Stephen > The Eleven.

Buck, haven't we learned that all rules are off with this band? Anything is possible.

>i guess you didn't pick up on my sarcasm....

Oh yes, but I had given this some thought on many occasions, so just took the opportunity to pose the question.

Figured Owsley or others might be able to claim it, but maybe everybody gave up after the 70's?

>> Figured Owsley or others might be able to claim it

Owsley was in jail for a while in 70. That's why we don't have SBD tapes circulating of some of the later '70 shows (ie, Port Chester)

>>>Buck, haven't we learned that all rules are off with this band? Anything is possible.

Rev, didn't you say "If Buck had his way"?
That's why it would be DS > TOO & St Stephen > 11.
The way it used to be....

Tom, I base my opinions of a show solely on the music being played, & what it does to me.
I haven't done drugs in years.
I seem to recall most people I talked to agreeing with my assesment that the level of play went up after Viola.
Right Brick?
Keyshawn just told me "When you get it (the cd), just tape me from Viola on, & maybe throw on Mason's Children as a filler. I'll never listen to the rest of it."

yup

said it before-
cool ending but by then I was Bitter Guy

its not Phil's problem
I'll go back

phil keeps you coming back.

Well, if someone isn't even gpoing to go back and take one listen to something ("I'll never listen to it") I guess they've made up their minds but IMO that's a mistake, and I'm not just talking about this show. I would find it hard to believe that almost everyone here hasn't been to a show that they thought A) was great but then the recording showed them otherwise, or B) was poor but then the recording showed them otherwise. Anyway, to each his own. Now, when are those spring tour dates?

Well, if someone isn't even going to go back and take one listen to something ("I'll never listen to it") I guess they've made up their minds but IMO that's a mistake, and I'm not just talking about this show. I would find it hard to believe that almost everyone here hasn't been to a show that they thought A) was great but then the recording showed them otherwise, or B) was poor but then the recording showed them otherwise. Anyway, to each his own. Now, when are those spring tour dates?

i love all live music. some bands more than others, but i have not ever seen a show and said, "wow. that sucked. if i had known, i never would have gone to it."

it is live music, and going to see live music is the best thing in the world to do.

Tom, I'll listen to the whole thing. Keysh said he wouldn't.

BUT, I NEVER heard a show that I thought was good sound bad on tape & vice-versa. Maybe a little better or worse, but never from good to bad.

Brick, I may have it soon....
Drop me a letter with your phone # or I'll drop you a letter with mine, your choice. I may have some cd's you want to send along....

*for the record*

I respectfully hop into the tiny lifeboat Bucky, Brick, & Muadib are rowing away in from this one of the "bottom 5 of the list of all-time Phil shows" (or whatever)

Indeed it mayhap have been the whistler's destruction of the {Precious Few} Mountains of the Moon from this tour. the show did have highlights, however, as even the worst Dead show had...

But, FRIDAY was THE SHOW of tour, no question, no doubt: ya know, in this ever-so-humble worshipper's opinion.

love
love
love

and then some more love, still...

>>>But, FRIDAY was THE SHOW of tour, no question, no doubt

Some others say the last 2 in Boston.
But, either way, I missed it......

But you know what?
If I had my way, er, choice, I would rather have been at Saturday because I had never seen Viola & TOO was AWESOME. Not to mention the space in vII of Viola, then Dickey Betts on the encore.

I'm sure that 70 minutes* (probably 65 minutes of music plus the break before encore) can stand up with ANYTHING P&F's done.

* a friend timed it. Viola at 11:05, show ends 12:15.

by Thomas Melvin

Hi all. Don't have time for along note, but saturday night was
everything you go for in spades, here's my short note from the Zone:

The first set was just perfect for me from Patchwork Quilt onward. The
first two songs were really well done but not what I wanted to hear,
never was or will be a fan of Tennessee Jed. But from Quilt forward this
show was all one could ask for. The jams from Quilt to Masons to Moon
were amazing, three of my favorite songs blended together perfectly.
I've been dying to hear Arcadian Driftwood again since 4/27 in Philly
(also my only other Patchwork Quilt) so it was the perfect set opener
for me although I could tell half the crowd didn't even know what song
it was, too bad, it was worthy of a better reception. A mind meld with
the crowd occurred during the UJB double time intro that didn't let go
for the rest of the show, an amazing synchronicity of band and audience
that only occurs at the best of times. My wife, who does no drugs of any
kind, turned to me with this look on her face that said "What was
that??!!" It was all gravy from there on in, and my mind was filled with
thoughts of Dick Latvala and how much he would have loved this set. He
loved the Beacon, the Allman Brothers, Warren, and Viola Lee, so to see
a Viola Lee like this one, chopped up into neat sections filled with
Other Ones and Sugarees would have put him in heaven. I was wearing a
t-shirt that he gave me when we first met ("They Keep On Coming") and
when Phil announced Dickey Betts for the encore I turned to my wife with
tears in my eyes and said "Where are you Dick?", he would have loved
this band so much and to see a set like this, in this place, capped off
with a Dickey Betts visit, would have been joyful for him. I wish you
were here Dick!!!

Friday was a great show also, the second set says it all.

The Beacon is a great place, but like anything else in NYC it makes you
work for your good time. Didn't notice the whistler, we were in the left
section of the loge so I guess we were far enough away to be out of
earshot of his BS. It seems to me that the only really great seats in
that place are the orchestra seats that aren't under the balcony;
everything else is either under a roof (back of floor, loge) or up in
the balcony were it looked so steep that I'm afraid I'd get vertigo
sitting up there! But the energy level is out of this world and when the
synch hits like it did during the UJB intro watch out!

One other note. Warren played his ES-335 Gibson a lot both friday and
saturday and it made all the difference on a few songs (Unbroken Chain,
Guitar Gently Weeps, Eyes), a wonderful softer sound with just a touch
of that hollow body feedback at times, great stuff, glad he switched
from the solid bodies he usually uses exclusively.

glad you enjoyed it ( the Big A too!)

see ya all next time

i enjoyed melvins review.

>>>Didn't notice the whistler

Don't worry, you'll hear him on the tapes......

Honestly, Tom, if you have any stroke with GDTS (you posted as Admin), this is my plan:

The Whistler is obviously getting his tickets through GDTS. If people make a note of the exact seat he has & send it to GDTS, can they figure out who he is?
If they can, they do 'reserve the right to refuse.....'

I told my wife my plan. She says "He'll just get a friend to get him tickets"
"If your friend whistled like that, would you want him next to you?" I replied....


BTW, I believe we can pinpoint his seat on 11-20. E-mail me privately & I'll see if I can get it to you if it will do any good.

smoke out that evil one, buck

the world will be a better place for it

did anyone ask the whistler to stop or do it less frequently? if yes and he did not, then i am all for his refusal of tix.

if not, then shame on everyone sitting around him for not saying anything.

Multiple tours, multiple people have asked him to stop. I heard he got kicked out of one of the shows on this go around.

>did anyone ask the whistler to stop or do it less frequently

I don't think you fully appreciate the whistler. If you politely asked him to stop, he replied with "fuck you".
Tapers who flashed him with a light got the obligitory "fuck you" with a middle finger often followed by a "yeah, I see you too, asshole!"
When they pulled him outside for a while, he came back about 10 minutes later as loud as ever and opened up with a "that's right, I'm back!"
Threatened to beat up my friend, who didn't even say anything to him, was just looking. I could go on forever and I'm not exaggerating. In fact, it still sounds understated. He is definitely one of the biggest assholes in the world.
Funny thing is, he's probably talking to his friends saying how lame deadheads have become because we kicked him out.

>>>did anyone ask the whistler to stop or do it less frequently?
Less frequently?
Less frequently?

Would doing it less frequently make it less obnoxious?

Dewit was right in front of him in Oakdale & she mentioned in her review that he told her to 'Go to the balconey".
I've heard him arguing on a tape of 10-14-00 during the quiet middle part of St Stephen - "F.U.!"

As for not saying anything to the guy, I tell people around me to stop talking, please.
"Would you do that at a movie you paid $8.50 to see? Then why are you doing it here when we paid $45 to hear Phil?"
That usually shuts them up.
I've had people occaisionally tell me to.... whatever, but I notice later on that they still shut up anyway.....

Take it easy people. i was not aware it was as bad as that. it sucks that he ruined the show for you, or at least the part he was there for.

i now support getting him removed from shows before he even gets there.

hope i never have to sit next to him.

showing enthusiasm is one thing, ruining people's good time is another.

Tolerate everything except intolerance....
indeed, this annoying whistling has become a form of intolerance...

break out the brass knuckles, kids, Ill be right there with you....

cause it's all peace and love until someone starts messing with my dose o Phil.....

Bucky, I didn't do that repost, the Administrator must have reposted it from an e-mail list we both are on. Oh that I had the power to have some input to help solve this problem! I guess I've been fortunate in that the Whistler has never been close enough to me to ruin a show. I have definately heard him at various shows (no particular one comes to mind) but he's never been in my immediate vicinity. During the break at the friday night Beacon show my brother and I were talking about the whole phenomena of folks who come to shows and seem either bored to tears or spend the entire time yapping their heads off. What's the point? If you want to talk, STAY HOME!! If you're going to be bored, DON'T GO! Why pay $40 to sit around bored or to talk and bother other folks? We had a few folks show up half way through the SECOND set, kicked out some nice folks who had been using their seats, (shouldn't there be some law that says if you haven't showed up for your seats by halfway through the second seat you have forfetted all claim to the seats?) and then they just sat down and proceeded to look as bored as a human souls could possible be. And this was during that great second set on friday night??!! Why were you even there??? One of the great mysteries of life.

You know I was right in front of the tapers on Friday and I gotta tell you there were a bunch of people getting soooooo stoned they were falling asleep! What weirdos.....I was just getting down and then you ahev some guy wake up and look at you like you are crazy. If you sleep at shows there is something wrong with you. Then we had some dude with a big ass maglight looking for his cell phone that he lost and his jacket. These guys were yapping their heads off the entire show. As for the whistler....if I ever am near that guy at a show....he is getting his ass whipped....I am all about peace and serenity....but that guy has seriuos problems. I usually travel to shows with four other dudes that like me are all six foot and over...We are from Baltimore and I don't take kindly to assholes. So if anybody wants to smack this dickhead just get a bunch of people together quickly and set his ass straight...be nice at first...then POW!!!!!Hope I get called to duty.
By the way I won't get sat night for the simple fact I already know he ruined it.

yo boys, look who it is!!

if u don't get sat night , skinman, than your giving in to the wistler!

>>>By the way I won't get sat night for the simple fact I already know he ruined it.

Maybe we'll get a SBD release....


Can't be worse than 10-14-01. The tape should read:

Set II
Jam >
Sugaree*

*with the Whistler

No exaggeration; he's as loud as the band.

My CD of this past Sat, 12-1, is from the balconey, front row, so it may be fine. It will be made readilly available when it arrives - maybe today.....

sweeeet!!!
Dear Santa,....

correction skin:
i am not from baltimore.

J.O.- on or off again this week?

Hey Bucky I am not saying that I don't want to hear it.......But all the reviews suggest otherwise. By the way I hear you like Viola...Check out the one with Dereck Trucks at Hershey this summer.....SSSSSSSSSSSSSMOKIN!!!!

Sorry JW.....but you live here...you know what I am sayin! Yeah JO whats the story.

I hope off...like the bug spray!

so warrens going to japan and australia? we need him in PLQ!

whistle while you work
don't do it at Phil Lesh shows
be considerate

Yea Christain, I just got a great recording of Hershey and it's as good as I rememeber it at the time. The seperation between the three guitars on Viola is unbelieveable, the sound at that place was as good as it gets. It's shorter then I rememeber I thought it was at the time (hmm, time perception off, wonder what casued that?!), only abut 11 minutes, but what an 11 minutes!

Buckey, I'd love to set up a trade for 12/1 if you're up for it, let me know.

Hey Jason where did you get that info on Japan?
I must've missed that.

hey tom-
i would love to see if we may be able to set something up for that hershey show...let me know if you are interested.

I'm supposed to B&P for Hershey....

I'll have to see if it's still on.

BTW- No CD's yet; damn Post Office, they're falling apart since I quit.....

Honestly, you gotta figure about 3-5 days for 1st class packages & 3 or even 4 days for priority until XMAS.

It's here.

I've listened through Deal. It's a bit better than I thought in places.
Alabama Getaway is certainly not one of them....

The true test comes tomorrow night delivering pizza when I crank up the tape I'm making now loud enough to make Pete Townsend's ears ring.

I have to send it off to someone on Monday to burn a copy for himself & another guy.

After that, I should have a burner & will certainly make it available to all....

I wouldn't have thought that Getaway would have been one of them! Honestly, I don't know why this band would waste their time....enough said.

Actually, Alabama Getaway was good in Oakdale on 4-6-00.
Long, 3 instrumentals I believe, & rockin'.
But still, who wants to hear Alabama Getaway anyway, especially in the 2nd set?

i like alabama getaway. so do some of my brothers.

Dude if you don't like Go to Heaven material...ala
Althea, Easy to Love you, Alabama Getaway.....then
you are missing out. That album rocks dude...Dead Disco ( and Shakedown Street)......Get over yourselves!!!! You don't have to like everything I know...but.....Don't sit here and tell me you would rather hear..I don't know....EL PASO!!!!!!

YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd rather hear "If I Had The World To Give" off Shakedown ( my wedding song )
one mans opinion...

don't forget to share, B Man
tis the season, ya know?

32 teeth in a jaw bone, tom and bucky tryin for none, before i have to hit them i hope they got the sense to LISTEN!

The Alabama Getaway encore at Mountain Aire 2000 was smokin'. I remember looking to my friend and saying "I don't remember liking this song so much." Of course this was after the mind melting second set, so maybe I didn't know what I was talking about.

You won't be saying that after 12-1's Alabama....

>>>>Dude if you don't like Go to Heaven material...ala
Althea, Easy to Love you, Alabama Getaway.....then
you are missing out.

Maybe if YOU'D seen:
45 Altheas (or was it 48?)
38 Saint of Circumstances
35 Lost Sailors
20+ Alabama Getaways
Even one Easy To Love You or Fart From Me

You'd feel like I do......

Now onto the show......

Of course I taped the Cd onto a cassette (stubborn Old Fart).
And of course, the 2nd set was promptly eaten in my car stereo...

But, I few impressions, as far as TOO:

The Alabama & Jed do leave alot to be desired.

There's a nice jam after Patchwork before Mason's.
All in all, I'd say the 1st set is about what I thought. Mason's is the definite highlight.

2nd set's a bit better than I thought prior to Viola. There's a nice jam featuring some nice dual leads after UJB.

My friend must've made a mistake is his timing, it's 70 minutes from Shakedown, not Viola, to the end.

And, this tape's made from dead center, there's no problem hearing Jimmy as some said on the left side (I'd agree with that, btw).

So, it's getting shipped to pukewedan to copy for himself & a trade for me, then, when I get it back, I should be able to burn.....

What type of person thinks that if you don't like, or to be more accurate, aren't a big fan of, one song on an album that you don't like anything from that album? Hint: this is a trick question. Warning! Expressing opinons on the PhilZone is dangerous, someone else might not agree with you and have to resort to calling you names and threatening violence.

Now you're getting the hang of it, Tom.....

Don't you know EVERYTHING EVER done by the Dead, any former or original member or anyone who ever played with them is awesome, devinely inspired & saying anything other than that is grounds for a public stoning?

I like the tubes.
They were great.

>Maybe if YOU'D seen:
45 Altheas (or was it 48?)
38 Saint of Circumstances
35 Lost Sailors
20+ Alabama Getaways
Even one Easy To Love You or Fart From Me

well, my dad can beat up your dad, so there!

>>>well, my dad can beat up your dad, so there!

I would hope so.
My Dad will be 64 next month & your Dad is probably my age & was going to shows when I was & saw 45 Altheas himself.....

no, my pops is 60, and would never be caught dead at a show.

or caught at a dead show, for that matter.

Hey Bucky....Do you want me to give you a big bozo button for all the things you have seen. What do I get as runner Up? I have seen Rodin on the Champs- Eleeysee....Have you. I have been to Bob Marleys grave in Nine Mile Jamaica....have you.

Shut up and stop comparing yourself to other people. You suck...I am convinced.
Experience does not always equal wisdom jackoff.

God you make me sick.....Go find something elese to do with your time. I am out. I will never post again....Maybe in the sping....By the way email everyone your seat # and row in the spring so we know where to stay away from...

48 Altheas he says....give me a break......

I am suprised you can add.

I don't thik Bucky was trying to say he knows more about the Dead because he saw however many versions of a song... Hes just saying hes sick of it :/

...man I've forgotten more shows than I've actually seen...back before Stevie was beatified and when Uncle John was just called John and he lived in the apartment above the garage because he couldn't afford to rent a place by the riverside...

New York Saturday 12/1/01: Length: 76'/120' Rating: 8.7 Up at noon, restoked on Manhattan Diner waffle and bacon breakfast, walk to Central Park, we all break up and everyone is on their own. I see a bunch of stuff in Central Park I have never seen in several previous visits, The Ramble, the castle on top of the hill overlooking The Great Lawn, etc. Incredible weather, sunny, high ‘60’s, is this really Dec. 1? Finally make it to Strawberry Fields, our original intended destination. Harrison tributes in full swing, crowds gathered in several circles, one around the memorials, others around musicians performing Beatles songs. Can’t find anyone, I harass the NORML table ("my friends left me to go smoke a J, seen them around?"), hang out on the rock ledge next to the tour rats who seem to have camped out in the park. One of their loose dogs tries to hump a smarmy lady’s leashed poodle, she gathers Fifi up with a dirty look to me "Not my dog, lady". Classic. I’m starting to feel ill so I head back to the hotel, sleep until 6 pm, ill but, wanting to be on the same plane as the rest of the crowd, and ready for a Saturday rowdy, I’m DRINKING tonight! Pack my backpack accordingly. In the elevator on the way down meet an older, distinguished hippie couple just flown in from Humbolt county, they ask me how was last night, "best show ever" my reply, "Hope they top it tonight" their answer, "hope so" I say, chuckling to myself. NO FREAKIN’ WAY they are topping last night, on Saturday, in NYC! Our seats tonight are front row second balcony center, along with the other GDTS-‘er’s. Never experienced a show from here before. WAY up high. My friend Stan is late, got caught in Lincoln tunnel traffic for 2 hours on the way from Phila. Could have warned him after our Wednesday experience. Late start once again. The yellow "Make Jimmy Sing" pages were given out in full force tonight. When they walk on stage, they are greeted with 100’s of these from all parts of the theatre. This gets quite a chuckle out of them. The balcony is definitely the mellow, less crowded place to be, even on a Saturday. The show starts with rockin’ jamming, hinting a bunch of bad songs, the Dread, leading quickly to the, thankfully, first Alabama Getaway of the tour. OK, get it out of the way, good. My stomach picks this time to act up, luckily the restrooms are easy to get to from here. Back in time for the break and Tennessee Jed. Good, getting this expected rocker out of the way early. Back to the restroom, back again for another break and Patchwork Quilt. OK, good choice, this should launch a string of good stuff, and how it does! Great Mason’s rising from the jam, first time of the tour not starting from a pause. Good rockin’ and spacey choice. This moves to spacier jamming, hinting the Allah, Days Between, etc., before transitioning to Mountains of the Moon. I was hoping they’d save this for a late-set segue, but, it is in the middle of other good stuff so far. First riff is way fast, uh-oh, but they straighten it out in time for the first verse. Decent version, lesser than Ohio’s only because of the unfortunate first set placement. This eventually segues to 1000 Stars, good rockin’ Saturday set-ender choice. A fairly short set, the first 25’ basically sucked, the last 50’ was great. For a Saturday, I’ll take it. The sound in the balcony has more ambiance to it, as there is no low roof above, but there is much less bass because of the lack of ceiling and due to the height. The chandelier and decorated ceiling make the experience of the theatre much better from here. It is also very scary being on the edge of such a high balcony. During the break, I joke to friends I feel like Art Linkletter’s daughter, with the urge to fly off, with the rational side of my mind keeping my equilibrium. Stan tells me about a 5’ anti-drug movie made in the ‘70’s about Art Linkletter’s daughter, or is this just an urban legend? Will have to check that out someday. Also during the break I hear that "The Whistler", or A whistler, was thrown out during Mountains in front of the official tapers section downstairs. Good! Man, if this jerk was anywhere near me . . . The irony being that none of the official section tapes are any good anyway . . .

Second set starts with a very mellow jam, barely audible over the Saturday night drunken babbling going on everywhere. Guys, you gotta grab ‘em by the BALLS on Saturday! This moves very quickly to Acadian Driftwood, I want to hear this, but seem to be the ONLY person in the place that gives a hoot. Just as with the Allah in Chicago, this is totally inappropriate placement for the only version of the tour. I have already consumed all the booze on me, which is a considerable amount, mind you, but I STILL feel no urge to babble, I STILL want to pay attention to the music, what the hell is wrong with me? The Driftwood is about an actual historical event, the French who were kicked out of Canada in the late 1700’s and ended up in Louisiana. More mellow jamming, more babbling, moving quickly again to a fast Uncle John’s, the energy level picks up, people stand and clap, sing, whistle along, this is more like it! Once again my hopes for a split-up Uncle John’s are dashed, but the jamming after the last verse is equal in exploratory intensity as Friday’s. They wind down to mellowness, the chatter is at a minimum now, we are "there", then the jam moves to that classic-rock-out jam that sounds like a Budweiser commercial, so common the Pevar Spring ’00 tour. In that tour, that jam always sounded like it was moving towards Deal, but never did. Unfortunately tonight, the jam goes back to space, then returns to Deal. ZZZZZZZZ, this, along with Alabama, are my least fav songs Phil sings. Also were never my fav’s in the GD days (5/5/81 Alabama is good, jammed into at the end of the show. Late ‘78/early ’79 Deals are good, with huge Donna build-up at the end). Fortunately, the only versions of them this tour. Now I want to babble! This finally ends with a pause, not quite killing the set yet, still plenty of time, expecting the Viola at some point, especially since first set was short. The pause is very short, then Shakedown nukes the Beacon, blasts our eyebrows off, Ok, good way to launch the final jam, this winds down pretty quickly to the expected Viola Lee, just like the Mason’s, this is a blend of rockin’ and space jamming at the same time. The first verse of Viola winds down very quickly to an obvious Other One intro. Different than Buffalo’s, which explored the Hard to Handle theme for quite a while, going in and out several times. Very rockin’, just like Bethlehem, no wandering, it’s the rockin’ Saturday. Other One reminds me of 1977 versions, has a brief meltdown in the middle, not enough to hint at any other song, moves back to the second verse quickly, high energy, quickly back to Viola, dissolves to space again, just like Buffalo’s, hints Stella, dissolves to a stop, abruptly starts Sugaree. Damn, I KNEW not playing it Wednesday was going to come back to hurt. So their strategy is to hint something really dreaded (Stella), then do something mediocre to make you welcome it. "You Can’t Always Get What You Want", indeed. Standard version, heard it all before. Back to Viola, right back to the ending build-up, skipping the 3rd middle verse done in Buffalo and Boston. This ends a decent 96’ set. Not as good as Boston’s Saturday show, though. All the Viola’s this tour are much better than the Summer versions (the east coast and Greek Th ones that I saw, anyway. The Alpine Vly, St Louis, and Atlanta ones are spectacular). All The Other One’s this tour are pretty mediocre, more rockin’ than spacey, none very long (ala Greek Th 6/29, Camden, DC 4/24). None of the jamming tonight reaches the level of Monday or Friday’s, just rock & roll. If only the Mountains and Sugaree were reversed, or Sugaree was Hard to Handle (how dare I!). For the encore we are treated to a special guest as additional equipment is added to the stage in front of Jimmy. Looks like Jorma at first, then announced as Dickey Betts! He warmly greets everyone in the band, they launch into Mountain-Jam themed jamming, Dickey is very animated, can’t remember ever seeing him move this much. Have heard his solo shows have been pretty good. Maybe he has his various problems under control now. He faces each musician in turn, hamming it up, they each trade licks in turn. Nice. Reminds me of the Dillon Stad 7/18/72, RFK Stad 6/10/73, New Year’s ’73 GD/ABB jams. Blue Sky, the obvious choice, is hinted at heavily. Doesn’t seem they’ve had much practice time, though. Someone yells for Southbound, isn’t that sung by Gregg? They settle on Goin’ Down the Road, just like those early ‘70’s collaborations. Dickey sings a verse, can’t hear him, just like Willie this summer. Cutler must be afraid of feedback. Back to a meld of Bid You Goodnight with Mountain Jam, clever! This 20’+ encore brings the show to almost 200’, the night after a 3-1/2 hour show! This guy ain’t showing his age! What other band can even come close to this? Back to the hotel immediately tonight. I crash on the floor, my body in agony from a combination of excesses and illness. I close my eyes to a visual light show pulsating along to my head throbbing from fever and excess alcohol consumption, drift away to oblivion . . .

The Art Linkletter's daughter story, that brings back memories from my childhood.
The deal was that she was tripping & jumped off a building thinking she could fly. Is it true? I don't know. We all thought so back then. But, everyone thought Paul was dead too.....


>>>48 Altheas he says....give me a break......

Would you like me to list the shows?

And, I was just pointing out how sick I was of hearing those mediocre songs, Luke, er, Christian.

Sideshow:

The Other One is about 11 minutes. That's short?

The Viola at Alpine, I thought it was a mediocre version (for recent P&F) reminisant of the spring 2000 ones where they don't go that far out there. It's a 1st set one after all. When they finish it in the 2nd set, it's maybe one minute.

You don't like the Deals from after '80 at the Warfield wheere they added the big, jammed out 2nd instrumental?
The versions prior to that might as well be Might As Well. All they do is sing "Wait until that deal goes down" 30 times.....
Don't you like the 5-6-81 version?

Hey Christian, guess what I was there. Na Na Na Na Na......

And, it was the ONLY show out of 14 that tour where they didn't play Althea if my memory serves me correctly.
Want me to name the other 32 - 35 times I saw it?

OK, guess it's time to pull out the old, moldy cassettes from the old, moldy basement for an old-fashioned listening session. One of my favorite reasons for being a taper, and how I explain it to co-workers (why do you have 1000's of tapes of the same band? You can't possibly listen to them all . . .) is that I can listen and have my pre-conceived notions blown away, only to form new pre-conceived notions, to be blown away next time. . . Yes, I'll listen to some old Deals. I recall 3/6/81 being a good one, with a meltdown to space in the end jam. I had to miss 5/4-5/6/81 due to it being FINALS week, went on the rest of the tour, which basically sucked. '81 I had the worst luck, missed all the good ones, saw all the bad ones. The best Viola is still 4/29/01, the best Help-Slip-Franklin's is 4/22/00 w/Branford. Sorry, I think this summer's Hartford show is WAY over-rated (way too short). Also, Buffalo and Boston's Viola's are longer than NY's (and better). How's that for assholes (I mean opinions . . .).

>>>'81 I had the worst luck,
missed all the good ones, saw all the bad ones.

Not me....

I saw 29 shows that year (which means about 23 Altheas I bet).

The best ones in the Spring tour:
5-6-81
5-1-81
5-11-81
5-4-81 is considered the best UJB by some, it's up there. Also, the first Spanish Jam in years after Truckin', regardless of what Deadbase says.

Winter:
3-10-81 (great Deal there too)
3-9-81
3-5-81 is the classic example of a Stella torpedoing a possibly great show & sinking it. They come out of a great TOO, head into GDTRFB, then the indecission takes over (plagued them all tour, see 3-5 after NFA). We end up with Stella, the SS Stanley goes down in flames....

Early Summer:
7-10-81

Late Summer:
9-11-81 (missed that)
9-26-81
9-25-81

Europe:
10-16-81 (missed that too)

Dec:
12-5-81
11-30-81
12-31-81 (missed that too)


Sideshow:

I read your review of 12-2. I was not that impressed, especially after hearing the show again.
Do you think it's better than the over-rated Hartford show from this summer?
Personally, I thought Hartford was the best P&F show I have seen & it's quality, not quantity. Although both is better. Generally, the first sets were very short this summer. Too hot to play 3 to 3 & 1/2 hours every night?

gotta love the "special hippies"

There's a show on Comedy Central now, after The Daily Show (besides Simpsons, South Park, and Jackass, the only thing I really watch on TV) called "Beat the Geeks". They even have a Simpsons geek! We could be the special hippie geeks. Bucky a hippie? Now that's scary!

Great show selection there, Sideshow. No Springer for you?

>>>Bucky a hippie? Now
that's scary!

Who ever said I was?
Playing hippy, that's Mrs Sideshow's job.....

Special Hippies, special hippies, special hippies.......

Guess what I was there?

Does that make you cool....I guess in your little heart of hearts...it really does.

You probably heard a lot of Losers too....directed right at you.

You're getting tired, Luke.

personally, i've seen ALOT of dead shows, phil shows, ratdog, ect.... but i don't think i've ever counted how many times i've seen one specific song, except like attics, which i saw once at hampton 89 and once at the garden in like 92. what i'm trying to say is that anyone who counts how many times they have seen a certain song live is either THE biggest loser in the world who has no idea what the opposite sex has to offer or has way to much time on his hands. just try to enjoy what we're given. we r too lucky to have this spiritual music to b trying to one up the next guy. get over yourself!

Hey, Bucky, since I'm such a loser and am home instead of at the X-Mas jam seeing the Blues 4 Allah they are probably doing right now (hey, it's near enough to Charlotte!), I am going to check my recently burned CD's and get the Viola Lee timings for the tour's 3 versions and post them here later tonight! Oh, by the way, I decided not to wipe my nose candy on the walls at work anymore, as I am only punishing the poor minimum-wage custodial people. There, see, Bucky, you've made the world a better place! Now that's not a loser!

OK, I c

excellent review, SideShow.
I'm glad it wasn't just " Me" at the 12/1/ show.

see ya next go 'round!

Who's Luke?

Sideshow: Who said you're a loser?
You did, not me.
I simply stated that wiping your snot on any public place is tasteless.
And bragging about it? That's PATHETIC.
You could've written just as nice a review without telling us that. Makes me wonder why you felt the need to share that with us.

PS, My friend was in Buffalo & 12-1. He said Viola was better in NYC.
And, it's about 46 or 47 minutes from the start of Viola to the end. That's short?
And, the Hershey version with Derek Trucks everybody raves about is supposedly 11 minutes. Length doesn't always equal greatness.


Jason: If you were going to The Dead when they played certain songs so much, wouldn't you take a look through Deadbase, say when going 'potty'?
That's how I know I saw Althea 45 times or whatever. I certainly didn't keep a running tabulation.
I never even wrote down song lists, especially during the shows.

BTW, Jason: Get over myself?
Why don't YOU get over ME.
Phildaddy? It's more like PhilBABY....

Man, you sure do like to criticize folks.

and it definately is PHIL DADDY!!!

>Length doesn't always equal greatness.

....it just goes to show that it ain't the meat, its the motion...

>>>
Man, you sure do like to criticize folks.

Seems to me I'm only defending myself from those who pounch on me.

The ONE person I initiated a confrontation with was a guy BRAGGING about having a cold, sneezing, & wiping his hand on a railing in a theatre.
How dare I judge THAT. How intolerant of me.....

"Viola" WITH "The Other One"..WITH "Sugaree" from 12/1 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRULES!!!
Spark up the breakfast...it's a BEAUTIFUL DAY!!

viola lee- 4/15/99

33 minutes. and SMOKIN'!!!

I agree.

What are you?
A Phish head?

perhaps, but that shouldn't even matter.

i am a "head" of all good music.

Don't let Cryptical hear you say that......

ah, whatever. all i was saying is that it is a good version of viola. no matter who is playing it. steve kimock played at those shows too. he is good.

I agree that it's great. And in a much more 'traditional' format than P&F plays it now.

Lots of Phil's material has 'morphed' since then.
He used to do 'That's It For The Other One'. Now, it's like 2 different songs, 'Cryptical' & 'TOO'....