anyone know what time they started last nite?
it started at 7:45pm SHARP (thx to ticket bastard for the last minute 2ND ROW SEATS!!!!!! HAHAHA)
by the way, last night was very, very good. Be ready to ROCK tonight!!!
and out into the night by 11 sharp???
so kind. i'm drivin up from new haven for this one.
see yall tonight!!!
I also scored some sweet last minute tix....can't wait for tonight!
I am in Plaistow, NH and have 3 tix I can't use, all single seats, all good. One is 7th row, Orh, center isle seat. Other 2 in Orch Left Center Row E & F. Would have to meet me soon off 495 in Haverhill/Plaistow. If anyone's coming down 495 from NH, let me know and we can meet.
Please email me about the Plaistow tickets above at: email@example.com
So Hard To Find My Way
So Hard To Find My Way,
So Hard To Find My Way,
Stop Blues jam tell me baby
Cold Rain & Snow
hey, I'm getting the text from LH via Gdad... not sure about tell me baby... is that a JGe song?
Anyone know what the "Stop Blues jam tell me baby" is? One song, two songs or what? Please advise.
Tell me Mama is a JGe song..
So Hard To Find My Way,
Stop Blues jam tell me baby
Cold Rain & Snow
exactly how anal retentive are you?
setlist updates in reviews?
sheesh who started that crap?
Not as much of an ass as you are. I never heard of the song before, so excuuuuuuse me. That doesn't answer my question about the song.
I know, Lites, really, just too too.
Must be some of the same people thought politics outta have ITS own folder. ;)
Hope you're well! Perhaps our paths will cross at the Nokia. That would be good.
is nothing sacred anymore huck
there is an EVENT
which spawns a GATHERING
rejoicing, planning, coordinating updating is OTHER STUFF
and then ... the REVIEW
this place really has gone to shit!!!!
halloween, all fri and sats and the finale for us
after camden, glens falls and magfest of course
Set 2 -
oh baby! Shakedown,
good stuff Halfstep>
Foundation of theater rocking molo is god
->jacky tune sounds like death don't very good,
Other One actually ended,
>the answer the Wheel
Per Lord Henry text messages
I think it might have started when Other Stuff became register only
When is is appropriate end of set..??or end of show..?
RBC, RBC, RBC!
That Shakedown was the highlight of the two nights in Boston.
One of the Jackie tunes from the second set was Loan Me A Dime-Boz Scaggs/Duane Allman tune.
What was tonights encore?
Well...acoustic(ish). Jackie on acoustic, Larry on fiddle
thankyou Phil and Friends for the show
Tonight's Jackie Tunes are, in order:
So Hard To Find My Way
Tell Me, Mama (not to be confused with Dylan song of same name)
Somebody Loan Me A dime
Down in The Valley Woe
the other one and st. stephen tonight were quintessential dead - true to the spirit and very much alive - both were simply superb renditions
the shakedown was awesome too
loan me a dime was sweet
the first time i set foot in the orpheum i heard that song sung and played by fenton robinson (who wrote it), when he was playing with john mayall many moons ago
the ONLY thing that would bring me back to the Orpeum (prison camp) would be if JERRY played there again. The security took relish in keeping everyone inline and behaving to their spec or out you go.....do they get a bonus for treating people like shit? the worst venue I have ever been to in over 40 years of goin to shows this is the worst. very few of the people that I saw were treated like paying customers rather they were treated like prisoners and if you stepped out of line you were in jepardy of harsh treatment. I was told that on halloween years ago they threw out ten percent of all concert goers for whatever reason they felt like. And I am not even talking about smoking I saw not one example of customers being treated w / respect....
tear down this piece of SH+T theater and put one in its place thats nice and friendly..............In my opinion this naziism was direct result in the two worst show of the tour harressed and destacted fans can not help w/ the group mind that is so impotant to the quality of music comming off of the stage. these secuity guards did all they could to RUIN everyones experience incuding the bands. example # 1` a stand alone other one.... first in history????? no energy little vibe = mediocre shows and thats what we got at that shitty little theater in Boston
ps; WE have been to all but three of this tours shows and soory to say The orpheum Got What it deserved. two practice sessions that were not even on the same PLANET AS CHICAGO and DENVER
kamloops - I love the Orph - too many good memories. Yeah, had some weird memories of overzealous guards, but overall that building has a lot of really good karma in those old walls.
As for the guards, remember that they really started crackin' down after the Station fire. Had a conversation with one last year and realized that most of these guys really believe that keeping the aisles clear and cracking down on smoking is keeping us safer.
If they really wanted to crack down on heads, would they let everyone spark up in the alley between sets?
I would have to disagree with the above post.
The show was a lot of fun and played well.
Security was a bit over the top, as my bud had his dug out taken upon walking in which was tough to deal with, but these are the times we live in. My last show at the Beacon they told you you could smoke at 9:30. That's it.
As far as the playing, it was wonderful and full of life, IMO.
Rainbow, I think you need to cut back on the shows. You're getting too much, too fast.
IMO the energy tonight exceeded Red Rocks significantly. I can't speak for Chi because I have not listened to it yet.
Sorry your time was bad, but for my part it was a great night.
The problem with setting up rules for proper etiquette in show review posts, is that most (if not all) Philophiles never follow rules. Bunch of rowdy troublemakers. Wait, let me pontificate about Orpheum shows. If smoking is a must, then having a good time would definately b out of the question. Acoustically, this is a super place. Phil (and the GD for that matter) always play(ed) special shows in beantown. Security always gave people a hard time about smokeing, not to mention the cardinal sin of standing in the isles. This has been an ongoing tradition, for over 35 years. On to the Other One without segues, either b4 or after. See GD circa 10/22/67, 11/11/67, 11/14/67.
This music is like historical science fiction. Phil & Friends is giving so much to the legacy of the Grateful Dead because the music is so present and in the now. There is nothing stagnant about this; it brings history to life as bold and beautiful as it once was. I feel so lucky to be able to experience that which once was in such a glorious way. Phil and Friends bring it.
Tonight’s show was something to behold. A ripe piece of fruit bursting with psychedelic rock juice. Of course I was in high anticipation of the coming event after witnessing what took place the night before. There was a strong sense of knowing that you’d get to experience majesty, brilliance and feeling groovy and do it in different ways each night. The whole idea of different set lists and not doing it the way you just did is such a driving force for dead head culture. Its all this routine we do with seeing shows feel new and unique every time. People wonder how we can do so many shows in a tour season after season but the experience is boundless.
It was great to see so many friendly faces tonight at the Orpheum. Zoners rock…you all are fine souls. These were my first GD related shows in Boston, the crowd was energetic and willing to give their all to bring a little bit more out of the band. It was a sight to see.
After last night I was expecting perfection. They did more than that. The playing and interaction of the musicians was so natural, perfection became of ordinary state of being. It was wall crumbling, guns a blazing, total eclipse, déjà vu all wrapped up into a nice package. Songs like Deal, Cold Rain & Snow and Alabama Getaway were so fierce and courageous you had to submit to their power. They were so tight and full of sound, which Phil’s bass leading the way over Molo’s massive construction of rhythm and Larry’s guitar singing space with perfect clarity and intense emotion. And it can get out of hand, just a little emphasis on the dynamics shifting it upward to a thunderous place. I’m convinced that Phil Co is powered by nuclear energy.
Cosmic Charlie came bursting out of the gates with the building bass intro that shattered into the great groove of the song. All smiles, all around. This is feel good music. The band was beaming a certain joy to the crowd. You could feel their happiness as they started the night out a rollin along. The vocals were sung beautifully and there was a great instrumental solo near the end. The “Go on Home your momma’s callin you” part is such a pleasure to hear live. They’re milking the vocal part over and over putting out that lyrics for all around.
So Hard To Find My Way was nice. Great piano intro to the tune, which feels so familiar. This song is a standard. The Jackie tunes are very cool because the band believes in them and play each one with the same conviction as the rest of the material. Inspired is right.
It’s easy to forget that Deal can be such a HUGE tune. The jam in this song breathes. Light a match and burn it. I think back to the monstrous Jerry solos from the JGB versions and now witness the same power propel us to new heights. Great god the soloing layered over the band is so freakin good.
Then they did this Blues jam which was a blues song. Classic Stormy Monday/Red House style blues. Jackie owned it. That guys got flavor. He brings a ton of youthful energy to the music, letting the moment seize him. He’s got a voice that sounds loud and clear. One that has not been withered with time but speaks softly of the past. Blazing solos through out.
Dixie Down was good, not nearly as good as at the Independent w/ Barry but still a pleasure to hear. The Band rules…nuff said.
Alabama Getaway ended the set starting so powerfully rockin’ it took a minute to figure out what song it was. Phil layed it on thick, and even with a little technical trouble found a way to make the most of the song. What a rocker, this song is perfect for this band. Huge impressive solos from Larry and Particle Dude. Ended with a magnificent bomb. When Phil it’s a chord on his bass it is by far the most powerful sound coming from the stage. It’s fuckin immense and drowns out everything else. PHILZONE BABY.
Set break was great, the crowd totally geared up for the 2nd set. Boston crowd has the energy.
So 2 minutes before they started zoner Mark SharkM called out the Shakedown…and Phil delivered right on cue. This is the first time I haven’t missed the Q during a shakedown. Huge Dminor BomB to bring it out with the groovy riffing. I like my Shakedowns as powerful, mean and gritty as possible. Make me believe in it. Song was sung with great charisma by Jackie as Larry wailed all over it. It’s a tricky song to solo in and be together during the changes. It was great fun to listen and watch them play so hard, feel it out and follow each other whichever way it may lead. Great, great version. Beantown was pleased.
Jackie then jumped on the organ and they jumped into Half Step. Full of life and not a dull moment or lapse in energy as they paraded through the verses followed by great solos from Larry. When we reached the grandiose resolution “across the rio granndeeeoo” it was calm and reflective. They hit so many peaks before it was now time to look around far and wide and relish in the stature of their position.
That ended, then Phil gave the signal to Jackie who started to riff New Speedway Boogie. Fuuuuck yeah. This is one of those songs that when you hear it you know you’re in for big stuff. Speedway is badass and finds its way into the coolest of Phil & Friends setlists. Jackie does a fine job singing and he keeps his cool when he wants to. He makes the beginnings of the verse very mellow, keeping the dynamics of the band down low. And then it comes time for the “Spend a little time on the…” Lights turn up! The crowd and band all together now roar…”MOUNTAIN!”
Speedway fuckin rules.
Larry reached dizzying intensity with his solo. His playing so concise and well thought out. Larry is not a noodler that’s for sure. He plays brilliant melodic and harmonic lines.
It is clear as day watching these guys interact with each other on stage. They are working so hard to push the limit all with a zen like calm. You can actually see the changing music influence every thing they do down to the last detail. This is especially apparent with Molo. Molo is God, that was my motto tonight. It’s like Shiva himself is back there playing drums completely in tune with the universe and with the ability to make or break it. This music could not be at the level it is at with out the strength and delicate power of John Molo. What an incredible musician. He gets the MVP for this show.
John’s drumming was so intense during the end of Speedway while they were climaxing I was actually watching chips of paint and whatever coming off of the ceiling above the stage. Shit was actually sprinkling down a little bit from the overwhelming power. I was like..”oh good god!”
Next tune was mysterious. I wasn’t familiar with it but though the music sounded like a blend of death don’t have no mercy and parts of shine on you crazy diamond. This was a very cool song. Wish I was more familiar with it because it had epic all over it.
Then the gears started changing and they flowed into that classic 6/8 beat of theirs that can only mean one thing…OTHER ONE!
Since Phil like to jam so much he introduces the rhythmic theme of the song while still a different key. The effect of hearing the tune you recognize like the TOO and have it shift into it’s right key is amazing. It gives it that extra push then they raged into it only to quickly settle down..quiet down…and let Phil really introduce it.
The Phil intro bass line to TOO is one of the great landmarks of the music. From 1969 to now that is the sound to end all sounds. The riff and the bomb. Holy jesus and the band nailed it and right there Larry tore blazing solos at great speeds. Guy was a machine. One of the more sophisticated kind from Philip Dick novels. You can all imagine what the other one is like. This one was a shredder, psychedelic shred. Phil does some of his finest playing in TOO and this was no exception. Jaw dropping good. It just makes ya want to scream. Then they did the Cryptical Ending and landed on one huge chord which lasted for a bit till it lingered and they came to a full stop. Dang! I never heard TOO end before!
Jackie tune came next, can’t figure that one out right now. After it had ended there was some regrouping to do on stage. During this time the crowd at the Orpheum just went a blaze with cheers and rowdiness. Awesome, I love a crowd with the balls to egg on the musicians and react to the music. I feel sorry for concertgoers who can’t get involved. The band noticed this great sign of appreciation and took a moment to take in the crowd and give a silent thank you. Musicians always play better when the crowd is with them.
Then a gift..St. Stephen. Done perfectly in every aspect. Those moments when it is just so damn good to be a deadhead. What a great way to get yer kicks! Great hard driving jam at the end vamping kick on the big E Chord and jamming it out.
“What Would Be the Answer to the Answer Man?”
Then the Wheel. Beautiful ! Phil’s arrangement is really something as it almost perfectly balances tranquility and awesome power. Epic! Not because of anything particularly outstanding but because as a whole it lived up to all our expectations. Ya gotta say fuck it and just sing along.
Sugar Mag closed this baby out rocking and stompin. Was very fun to hear but felt very quick. Sunshine Daydream is a great thing to hear.
Brokedown Palace was the encore stated so soft and lovingly. Jackie singing sweetly with acoustic guitar and Larry taking a nice solo on the fiddle. After his solo the crowd gave him a huge cheer that was plainly audible over the yielding music. It was just beautiful.
A great ending encore, especially with the 1st night ending with Ripple.
And ya gotta know that Brokedown was for Fritz.
Well I’m just about over joyed to have gotten to experience this great event. This is so far a hell of a tour with an incredible band. I almost wouldn’t believe it. Thank You Phil & Friends for showing me everything so real and true and for just giving me one hell of a fun time. Thanks to zoners for being a part of that too.
Think I’m gonna try and make it down to NYC !
Oh they didn’t play Terrapin for the encore as I’d hoped but I’m a sick bastard about shit like that anyway. I’ll still give tonight’s performance a 9 out of 10.
2 things, stop bashing the Orpheum, just don't go.
Larry Campbell is the shit.
it was you???
you just wait till new years eve pal!
ill get you for this!
and your lil dog too!
Thanks bill (Cryptical5) for that pic of phil. What a great shot. That lower bass cabinet woofer must be at least a 20 inch or larger.
Thanks for sharing.
terrapin in camden, since boston stole the shakedown street
maybe dancing in the streets in camden NJ, (philadelphia PA)
The main screen here does not have Brokedown as the encore on the set list
Yeah I was curious about the repeat of Shakedown for the encore also ;)
And I'll take both Dancin' (what a rebreakout THAT would be!) and Terrapin in Camden, thank you very much.
Looks good overall, can't wait for the tapes!
don.t worry I will never step foot in that Brokedown palace again. As for the playing the band is always good, they are profesionals...... the St Stephen was good I just can't help but compare my experience at these shows w/ the others I have seen on tour. The Riv is in as bad shape as the Orpheum but they seemd to treat us better except for the heat (beyond anyones control) and running out of water and ice the first night we were all treated w/ respect and compasion. Sure some obvious infractions were asked to leave but chances were given. Believe me If everyone who went to that steam box and still managed to be transported to a place outside of our bodies and enjoy the show despite the overbearing heat the band was trancendental(sp its early) and transportational witch they were not for ME (i am not saying this didn't happen for you) in boston.
Most of the reapeats in Boston could not even hold a candle to the other renditions performed on this tour. Sorry to harsh your mellow. come on you other folks on tour how did the renditions of "loan me a dime" or "st stephen> mt. of the moon" The stand alone "Other one" compare to what they did to the " Other one/Cryptical" Or is it just me?
There is no comparison. This band relies on audience energy and when the audience is to busy looking over their sholder and being destracted by overbearing security that feeling spreads like an an unseen cancer through the group collective mind and affects all. Most of us are adults and know how to behave without being treated with police like tactics. I am 53 and have never seen more zellous guards in a venue.
This band is always good and the crowd is always into it. Its the little things that help bring out the MAGIC and alot of those little things were absent for me at the ORPHEUM THEATER..........
god i hate dancin in the streets
don't worry lites IF they play it ( they won't) it WILL be good......
Lord Henry, thanks much for delivering a review of what I actually experienced last night.
kamloops, “or is it just me”? It is you. Sounds like you let the whole Orpheum vibe dictate how much fun you had. Yes the security sucks. Yes they actively try and come down on people but as someone posted before, this has been going on for years. The acoustics are great and Phil loves the place. Did you hear his comments before the donor rap? Obviously he wasn’t fazed by the energy drain you speak of.
Sounds like you have been doing this for a while. If you haven’t figured out how to craft a buzz without toking every twenty minutes or holding a beer in your seat you should definitely skip the Orpheum next time.
first set was a little slow....
second set.... look out cookout! I had not seen Phil in almost 5 years......
I was absolutely blown away by the second set! Can't wait to buy it online.
As far as everyone being upset with the orphium........Quit your bitching you lil salies! You all knew what you were getting in to. Unfortunately massachusetts and the orphium are very conservative..... but I still had a blast!
I wish they had played not fade away as the whole crowd was clapping their hands to that beat!
"massachusetts and the orphium are very conservative."
Yea. The land that elects Ted Kennedy for 45 years is a bastion of conservatism.
Andy: your right I am an expert at crafting a buzz I do not drink at all and as for smoking I did not mention that I even wanted to smoke so stop assuming things about me that you don't know. You are right phil said he likes the orpheum just like he says in every venue he plays this does not make the orpheum SPECIAL like red rocks or the greek it's just another venue to him and he loves playing for us so that what he has to go on, Phil loves all venues during the donar speech. There are many venues in this country that he/they have played over the years that hold a special place in all of our hearts where the well has been dug really deep and I am sure the Orpheum WAS one of them notice I said was. Do yo really expect Phil to come out and say I had a shitty time playing for you assholes in this shitty venue I think not and don't worry I will skip the orpheum if there even is a next time.
and don't forget that one mans gold is another mans burden
Thank you Lord Henry for your reverential review. You're a good writer. Props, also, for giving your kudos to Jackie. His uptempo songs as played by this band,(i.e.Cold Black Devil) are great complements to any Dead set. That kid is the shit, and he brings it every night!
great reviews LORD HENRY!!!!!
Mrs catchabigone told me this morning that she would have wanted to leave the Orpheum if it had been even close to as hot as the The Riv and she loved the sets sitting right next to me. She has an easier time ignoring the distractions I find so disturbing.
And I never once said the shows were BAD they just did not do it for me and this all very personal. Each of us has different expectations as we walk though the door.
I feel all of my points are valid and am sorry if I hurt some of your feelings. I have more than two shows from this tour to make my reviews from. If I had just seen santa barabara and the greek I would be thrilled and am thrilled with all that I saw. I wouldn't trade the orpheum shows with any other band out there. All I said is they were not up to par with the rest of the shows I have seen this tour. Go and tell me I am wrong I can take it....................
What factors play into rating a show, plus how one rates that aforementioned show, is purely a subjective call. Having said that, we must give Lord Henry extra credit for expressing both his feelings and thoughts, so eloquently. Now to clear up some minor and (totally) inconsequential stuff; an arena's smoking policy and how they enforce that policy, has little to do with the communities political leanings. It goes without saying that any dissagreements (about anything) in a discussion room, is always fun. Or as that song says: some folks look for answers, others look for fights. As for me, I kinda like those folks who r up in treetops, just looking 4 their kites.
Another great review LH - I like the way you think.
LH How was the sound last night?
It is nice to know that the Gestapo ushers from the Capital Theater in Passaic have found a home since Passaic closed down. And I saw the first Jerry solo acoustic show in Passaic (really solo without John Kahn). When you go to a place with Nazi ushers and staff, certain adjustments must be made. Let us all pray the Nokia is not that way.
I was at the Nokia for Spearhead and it seemed really mellow. Although I was not trying to do anything you're not supposed to... You could bring your drink to the floor or wherever you are seated and they even let you have the cap to your water bottle! Nice venue btw !!
Thanks everyone, it is my pleasure to spend the wee hours of the night recalling the show experience. I just get to live it again while writing it out.
>>LH How was the sound last night?
Fuckin outstanding. Some of the best sound I've heard in any theater. Every instrument was crystal clear. Something about the acoustics in the Orpheum that makes all the sound warm and bright. I talked to the sound guy before the show, great guy, (he did sound for PLU) and he just had it dialed in all night. I was really impressed by the sound of Particle Dudes piano and whatnot. So pure in tone.
both reviews of boston were much appreciated and thorough as i was at both and really tired now but enjoyed both reads.
thanks lord henry...another great review...you have a nack for puttin the person into the review...
u know wut else is funny...fritz LOVED the J Geils band...i used to rattle his cage about it (jokeingly)...love stinks ;-))
>>> LH How was the sound last night? >>>
I was 11th row just left of center - same as LH, although he was more left and closer to the stacks - and thought the sound sucked, so I left to find better. There were 2 big stacks of speakers on either side of the stage, but they pointed straight out, and there really was nothing to hit the middle of the floor. The sound kinda went up and over your head. It was clear and well mixed, but not nearly enough power down there. Up in the balcony in front of the speakers was much, much better, but I'd expect them to get a better sound in the entire room.
...It all depends on what's with you....
dum dee dum dee dood delee dooo
Interesting Poz !
>>In my opinion this naziism was direct result in the two worst show of the tour harressed and destacted fans can not help w/ the group mind that is so impotant to the quality of music comming off of the stage.<<
I find the "tougher" venues sometimes help with the group-mind feel of the room. Like people are almost forced to focus on "bringing" the show in spite of the strong-arm security tactics.
I really only saw people getting hauled out for smoking. It's a pretty clear policy there, though they did not hand out the leaflets this time which were very to-the-point.
The fact that you can go out and burn without restraint next to the tourbusses was comfy enough for me.
Thats exactly why I always thought places like the Cap Centre had such a strong crowd vibe.
that Brokedown palace was beautiful... Miss you fritz..
I was three rows from the stage with my good bud "Dead Head Ed". The show was great given the times. Hey boys and girls, rules is rules. Ever since The Station fire in RI it aint ever gonna be any different. So do your smokin outside and your drinkin inside. That's just the way it is.
It aint ever gonna be like the old days. I was there when Pig was playin.Those were special times for sure. Nobody told you not to spark it up, we just did at every show. So now days you take what you can get. I'm goin to the shows as long as Phils still playin! Thank you Phil and thank you "Dead Head Ed" for my ticket.
Good words there Alan. Say hi to Deadhead Ed for me, it was very nice to meet him.
Hey you guys I never once complained about not being able to puff. It would have been nice but it's not the end of the world. Just having 15 or 20 over acting guards runninig around harrasing everone they would come in contact with is to much. Even people in their fifties and sixties were treated the same as the wooks. There was no respect given to us so it was hard for us to respect these folks who's power definatly has gone to their heads. Tell a bunch of want to be cops that your employer will back WHATEVER they do and give them power with no one to answer to. you all need to dose and watch a old hippie pleading his case as they drag him out for not staying right in front of his seat, not smoking not trying to sneek down front just not being where they wanted him to be so out he goes one of our brothers gone from a show for all they know he could have been waiting a year or so to see. That alone was enough for me but you keep standing up for this kind of treatment and thats what we will get everywhere is that want we all want ........Hell no.......... The behavior of the security staff was unacceptable. spies in the balcony watching the floor it just felt bad and I mean really bad to be watched like a criminal for no reason. I did nothing at all to bother anyone or break the rules aand I was still treated like a piece of shit. If thats what it takes for you to have a good time I hope every show you see is at your lovely Orpheum Theatre.
I was off to the far left side just diggin the music and nobody from security bothered me. They did give Deadhead Ed a hard time about his camera. Something about his lense was too big. First Ed was told that he could take pictures and then one security guy who was a particular hard on kept saying he couldn't. It was kind of comical like you said, to give these young assholes authority and see what they do with it. The Music Hall was always better than the Orpheum. What was really a riot was people had smaller digital cameras who were taking pictures all over the place but some how Deadhead Ed who was not bothering anyone was singled out. If I didn't dislike the idea of ending up in jail I would have like to ripped this security guys headset off and shoved it up his ass! I'm 54 but I'm in good shape and can still kick some ass. Despite all of it I still enjoyed the show. For me being able to puff is part of the GD experience so it'll never be the same. I've gone to shows in CA at the Santa Barbara Bowl and nobody was puffin which seemed very F**KED up. When you have been to so many great shows in the 70s,80s etc. Todays shows are still worth going to but it'll never be the same. I go to the Orpheum because it's convenient, but I have to agree the security hard ons were too much. The one thing I always will do despite any security problem is focus on the music. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC! Back in the day I remember being at really special shows and there would always be people who would either be talkin or getting distracted by something totally non music related. I would always think to myself we are here to listen to the MUSIC! It's like when you go to a sporting event and people spend more time getting food and beers instead of watching the game. If we all focus on the MUSIC we all get off!
are there any bitchier fans than deadheads?
>>>I'm 54 but I'm in good shape and can still kick some ass.
Hey Northernlites, I'm glad you liked that!
I went to both shows and I honestly don't have a single compliant....the music was awesome, 2 solid shows...I sat in 2 different spots each night and had the time of my life....matter of fact where I was night two the two ladies working the aisle couldn't of been nicer....every once in a while they would tell someone to get out of the aisle but they did it in a very friendly way.
Beantown is sort of "hit or miss"...
Here's a sure bet... Check out the Glens Falls show in Upstate New York next weekend for a good time at a good venue... The Albany area has been treating 'Heads like kings for 17 years since Jerry's first visit...
And October in the Northeast is always a good time to get to the lot early... I, for one, and pretty fired up for next weekend's gig!
And I agree- sometimes the VENUE and the VIBE can add as much to a show as the music... At least- a great, chill scene sure doesn't HURT a killer setlist! Just one less distraction- and one more reason to smile as the lights go down on the stage...
Keep rockin' everybody!
Regarding fire safety and smoking: Maybe they're tougher after RI, but for crying out loud, that fire was caused by the pyrotechnics on stage (and terrible construction), not by smoking! In venues all over the east coast (certainly down here in DC/Virginia/Md.... with some noble exceptions) the security dix are totally out-of-control young goons just out to hassle people. It's not about fire safety or even air quality, it's just about the new security society where every petty bureaucrat and sleazy businessman finds it easy to assume the role of cop and inquisitor.
I've been to the Tower and the Beacon more times than I can count, and these were my first two shows at the Orpheum, so coming from a Beantown virgin, here's my two cents:
1.) Acoustics were AWESOME, and I loved feeling the whole place jump.
2.) Yes, security is tight. By reading these reviews, a lot of posters are saying, well, what did you expect, it's the Orpheum, and it's always been that way. Well, some of us aren't used to that. I can see the smoking thing (that place would go up in a second), but it would have been nice to know you can't drink in your seats or dance in the aisles - my fault for not reading reviews before I left I was up top the second night and security was pretty cool up there, everyone was dancing everywhere.
3.) I don't know how anyone can say that we "saw what we deserved, a practice session," but hey, that's your opinion. I howver, feel that Phil really does think that place is special and that we DID get what we deserved...two great shows in an intimate setting - almost like he wanted to say thank you for coming out during the week.
4.) Brokedown Palace was the most beautiful thing I've ever heard.
This isn't really passage, its his wife and I really feel the need to comment on my experience at the Orpheum.
My post isn't as much about the music as about the scene. I actually really enjoyed the set list and the music. Though I miss Joan terribly, I thought Jackie Green was great and his presence really made a difference in the show.
I want to focus on the scene which was a complete downer for me and I have vowed not to see another show indoors anywhere.
The Orpheum is a firetrap and the fact that nobody seemed to care is really irresponsible. I don't think there was a person on any side of me that wasn't lighting up the entire length of the show. Especially being from Providence where a tragic club fire took many lives, I had a hard time just letting go during the second half of the show trying to keep my eyes open in case of a fire.
I was sincerely disappointed in the show because of the crowd not the security. I thought that for the most part people were really rude and acting like out of control party-goers. I tried to get outside during intermission and was pushed and pulled and tripped over like a scene from a bad college fraternity movie.
I didn't appreciate the environment at all and it really took away from the show for me. Its hard to be with the music fully when the scene feels simply about the scene not about the music.
The same circumstances are different when the show is outside.
I'd like to be more positive but this is how I feel and I think it needs to be said here. I know you'll all probably say nasty things in response to this post but I was venting to my husband again this evening and he said 'just post it'. So here it is.
"Its hard to be with the music fully when the scene feels simply about the scene not about the music. "
I know exactly what you're talking about. I had the same problem with the Grateful Dead scene starting clear back in 1984 when it seemed to me at least to change markedly. As a result I didn't go see them for years which I somewhat regret now.
I've been gong to the Orpheum since the 70's. Needless to say I love the place. A "Brokedown Palace" as the Friends so eloqently sang Wdnesday night.
So why may you ask why I love the Orpheum? History, I guess. Maybe it was the New Riders/Commander Cody double bills that came through a long time ago. Poco was always a gas there too. I'll never forget the Black Crowes blowing the roof off the place 8 or 9 years ago..sheer chaos. I would be terribly remiss if I didn't mention Dylan, John Fogerty nd the great Brian Wilson who masterfully performed SMiLE.
For some reason I like a bit of chaos in a concert.
Clark, Ely, Hiatt & Lovett put on great show there 4 years ago, and my wife and I had the honor of walking with Guy Clark for 10 or 15 minutes through the streets of Boston.
I had a blast with the whole scene Wednesday night, and I am sorry you didn't. For me it hasn't changed much in 30 years, and I hope it doesn't.
Just my take, and good memories.
Hey Dub-did you go to the Jerry show in the early 80's when the power went out? Sent hundreds of very high heads into the dark Boston night.
wow! So much negative energy from people invested in 'peace and love'. Many of you seem to need a good slap in the face from your nanny, IMHO. As for the use of the word 'nazi' to describe security people who remove people from the arena for smoking; I lost family in Auschwitz and am disgusted to see genocide compared to reasonable crowd control. Those of you who used such language need to be sent back to High School, at the very least. Bitch slapped for a few hours would be better. Barred from entry to Phil shows for life would also be fair.
The shows were wholly wonderful, was in the 3rd row Tuesday, and standing 2 feet from a security guard found myself chatting with him all night. Nice guy, good attitude, dealt with folks who tried to muscle their way into our seats effectively, and with good humor.
If you don't like the Orpheum, either 1) don't go. or 2) don't smoke and stay in your blasted seat, idiot. Otherwise you will have a great time.
Hmm. During classical concerts people sit in there seats, don't smoke and for the most part act like proper "boys and girls." To tell people to behave that way at a Phil show seems a bit odd. I understand people wanting to be considerate of there fellow concert goers, but I always thought that behavior could be a bit looser and that dancing (not to mention venturing out of an assigned seat) was an ok thing to do at a show. Different strokes for different folks. For those who feel distracted by unruly shenangins, I recomend that you learn to listen better and concentrate less on the "percieved misbehavior" of others. I saw the dead in Boston Music Hall in December of 1973. The Boston police were in the theater. They were very upset that people were out of there seats. At one point (between songs) a cop jumped onstage. Jerry looked at the cop, did a quick double take,smiled, then told everyone that the "cops are from heaven, man!"
As a community most "dead heads" want people to feel comfortable at a show. I am not convinced that insisting on strict rules of behavior and having security guards enforce those rules, is the best way to make people comfortable.
Didn't think much of this show at all. The only highlight for me was the last Jackie song: "Down in The Valley Woe". The only time they seemed to be "into it". It was almost like 2 different bands played at the Orpheum . . .
I will also say I LOVE that you can't drink at your seats. Keeps the chattering drunk element to a minimum . . .
I enjoyed the show. I saw a about 3 people get escorted out. At a Trey show last Dec. I saw many more get escorted out. I think it's fine for people to complain about it, It won't make me stop going to the Orpheum though, I know that I will never be escorted out. I also am glad there is no drinking in the seats there. I didn't step in anyone's sticky spill, or worse, have it spilled on me. The ushers were all very polite to me.
I thought the crowd was great. Very mellow. I didn't have to tell anyone to stop sqeezing into my row which was nice. I'm an older guy now, glad to be able to get out to a show once in a while and hope my kids get there homework done without me while I'm gone! Just there for the music, and to relax, feel the groove, and to be around people there for the same.
I enjoyed the whole show especially the second set. Shakedown was great, I wish it were a little longer. Miss half step, Other one, New Speedway,St Steph, Brokedown were all highlights.
It was my first time hearing Jackie, I thought his voice was great, and enjoyed his originals. My seats were in the back on the floor, and I think the sound gets a little muffled back there under the balcony, but not as bad as the old Boston Garden did in the stadium seats under the balcony.
Great show, look forward to the next tour.
Keep enjoying the music!
Here's a bullet point review/thoughts on the Boston shows by Doug Collette:
Can't smoke Dope? If you smoke at all and get kicked out, Too bad. If you can only enjoy a show with smoke then stay home. I heard some guy complain on the way out about not being able to smoke dope because of secruity and he looked very depressed on the train home. I enjoy the kind as much as the next person. But man grow up. As for the show. I liked it well enough. The Other One was very fine NSWB was fun. My only complaint was the show started at 8:00 the first set was 50 min. and the break was 45 min. So by 9:30 I sat there for two hours and only heard less than 1 hour of music. It's a good thing they started with a rowser like Shakedown or else I would have been zapped of energy. And what is with all the talking during the show? Is it just Boston or what. During the quiet times of the music it's like everyone in the place has major conversations going on. The talk was just as loud as the quite passages of music. In Baltimore man people had more class it was quiet and no talking at all. Well if you want to talk so much it is your choice but talk at home. The sound at this place it was so-so at best. Not all that great really. A good show though I went back to the Hilton happy that I went.