6-25-03 PNC - Holmdel, NJ

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By KB (Kgb) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 02:33 pm: Edit Post

Looking forward to getting my yearly fix of the boys........

Anyone have an idea as to what time Winwood hits the stage and when The Dead start. Is there someone before Winwood? Work is going to be a drag Wed and am curious what time to cut out the back door...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By heal sidney (Brewks) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:54 am: Edit Post

one of the things i loved most about live dead was the way they seamlessly jammed one song into another it is missed. this band might have a nice set list on paper but remember this: "you can't judge a book by its cover"
maybe im spoiled i toured a bunch i saw the band and jerry a bunch, out west, up and down the east, when they returned to oregon, with and without brent and i saw tonights show (6/24). although bobby's mojo sounded ok, bob didnt have his "mojo on", for it was ultimately ruined when he snapped and went into his upbeat version of schoolgirl.... and it didnt stop there, things of this nature kept recurring throughout the night. they dont jam anymore this is not p&f and although many of the veterans are still up there the show quite frankly blew!
tons of steel was good, alittle too quick though, not very instrumental. on the way out they found a little groove and it just disappeared, it evaporated, it died. there was no spirit, no one could hold it together. again it just died! then they found black throated wind... was good but then it just died and was killed by roses, which was weak instrumentally and strong vocally. joan osborne sounds good, i like the way she moves, id definitely hit it! i think she changed the lyrics so it didnt sound like she was singing about a chick. from there mickey and bill tried to bridge it into tomorrow never knows, but everyone else seemed clueless for a minute or two, eventually it clicked. on the way out of that phil, jimmy, and rob tried to drift it into the eleven... bobby again clueless, he threw his hands down, to figure it out. this eleven, as decent as it was, just couldnt find help>slip. the eleven, just went dead! awful!
they're dead, not alive... they die at the end of each tune which they used to seamlessly jam into the next. its like two fist sets.
if you want you read the setlists and say "wow!" and if you want to go and make excuses for them, as several people in my group did, you can cause its not easy being honest about the band you love when they are this bad! its brutal. this isnt the THE DEAD its not P&F its lame, boring, and blew.
possibly the most awful part about it was fire on the mountain. they need to retire the mickey vocal thing along with "the other ones".
Winwood was refreshing, winwood drummers on drums with mickey and bill were excellent.
can you get up and dance? yes, but be prepared to be stopped dead in your tracks at the end of each song. you are at their mercy now not the mercy of the sublime! this was just like every other "rock" concert that has ever been! as for me... this could be the last, maybe the last time i dont know.
ill give phil with schofeild and branford a chance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By heal sidney (Brewks) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:55 am: Edit Post

sorry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scroto (Scroto) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:41 am: Edit Post

Are there any legendary shows that include Bobby without Garcia? My expectations are low for the music, high for the atmosphere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By AW (Andrewwig) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:28 am: Edit Post

I understand that this section is about the music but the atmosphere of the venue can sometimes turn a dud performance into a fiasco or a solid, but unexceptional performance into a night you will cherish forever.

For those going tonight, get there extremely early! I have seen a show or two at nearly every venue slated for a tour stop this year and PNC is by far the most unfriendly and logistically painful venue on tour.

Last year the money crunchers at PNC decided to start pre-selling the parking spaces near the venue via ticketmaster. (You can sneak into these areas but they are patrolled by NJ State Troomer so exercise caution.) The remaining "parking" is in empty fields next to the highway, off the sides of off-ramps, or as I found out last night, double parked on a dead end street past a war memorial with a 15min walk to the venue. This necessitates a nice hike or bus ride so:

a) don't think about bringing anything up to the venue that is questionable that you do not want to abandon at the gate or return to your car: cameras, umbrellas, food, water bottles with broken seals, musical instruments, etc.
b) if you have somewhere to go after the show or have to work the next day, take a look at your neighbors and assess whether they look like they will be in a rush to leave after the show. You may be blocked in; I saw several frustrated heads sitting in limbo on the way out.

The Phil show at PNC in 2001 was so exceptional that I keep forgetting how bad it is.

Let's hope the boys can conjure up some magic tonight! See ya on the Parkway.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joseph thorpe (Thebreeze) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:14 am: Edit Post

I just discovered this site and love it. (not much of a computer user). I sense some frustration from a lot of folks about the lack of energy at shows and the problems the band has tying tunes together. I share in the frustration but, remember. This is a brand new band with some old faces and they are trying to renew an art that took years to create. I spent years developing my own appetite for music and saw some shows that will probably never be topped.(the road we traveled was more than half the treasure we shared there). This band will peak but it may take some time. enjoy the ride, and grow with them. It will make that magic moment, when the band melts and the music turns into one beautifull ball of rolling thunder, much more worth it. Ive not had the opportunity to see a lot of music over the last couple of years(I got an all access to the continental arena last fall and saw SPAC this tour and the band is very close to where we all want them to be, and where they want to be. Does any body like moe. If you like energy then go in to the show (vernon NY)early and check them out. That band smokes. See you on the road. Peace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By August West III (Slipknot77) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:35 pm: Edit Post

I have read reviews from this page for a long while now. Some reaaly good, some really bad.
For the most part, it balances itself out. The reason I registered is so I could comment on the current state of "affairs" with The DEAD.

I was lucky enough to see the REAL DEAL 120+ times in my life. I finally caved and apprehensively went on the P&F's "trip" a few years ago just to see what was goin' down and I was blown away ! I have always loved Warren and Jimmy and NYE 2001 (1st and 3rd Sets) was one my biggest musical highlights, ever !
Now -to the point. IMHO - These guys (and Joan) are just trying too damn hard ! Who the hell is coming up with these setlists - Bob ? The GD (and most P&F) setlists use to read like books to me and made a lot of sense, but what I have seen lately is just a bunch of sloppy looking, contrived BS to please the masses !!!!
it aint working and its even looks damn awkward on paper !)

Sorry Bob fans (I use to really like his "texture" and "color" and songs w/ the GD), but there should be NO RATDOG material, no Bob scat/rap crap (that throws everyone off -"never ,never, never, never stopped ... &
"wont you try , wont you try - just a, just a little ,little bit - hard-hard-harder"), NO rapping on Fire, NO vocals from Mickey (Let Rob sing !!)....+ much more unnecessary crap ....

If this band is truly in the spirt of the Grateful Dead, I am really worried ......
It sounds to me from this tours reviews, that Bob is ALWAYS fuckin things up (lyrically and musically) missing cues, very awkward changes, Ratdog material - waaaah ?- Joan sings well, but has NO idea "what" she is singing, Bob dissin' Steve WINWOOD on his B3 solo -?, Mickey has ruined "Fire" for the rest of my days .... Shit - might as well bring back "Wave to the Wind" !

I have been trying haaaaarrd to give them a chance (in the spirit of the good ol' Grateful Dead), but I dont like what I am hearing and IMHO-I kinda knew it was gonna be this way ...
Bob & Jeff - Go back to Ratdog
Mickey - Go back to Bembe Orisha
Billy - likewise - Trichromes

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - BRING BACK WARREN AND MOLO -LET THE "REAL" GOOD TIMES ROLL AGAIN BECAUSE P&F'S is the closest I have ever come to being back at "the show", leaving with that shit eatin grin and "KNOWING" & "UNDERSTANDING" what just went down and all you can say is Thank God for the "Good 'Ol Grateful Dead" -
THEY CAN NEVER BE REPLACED OR REPLICATED AND THIS ARRANGEMENT-"THE DEAD" -SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE MAGIC !

Thanks for listening-
Really Concerned DEADHEAD #2012

"They're not the best at what they do, they're the only ones who do what they do !"
Bill Graham





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scroto (Scroto) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:56 pm: Edit Post

>FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - BRING BACK WARREN AND MOLO ->LET THE "REAL" GOOD TIMES ROLL AGAIN BECAUSE P&F'S is the closest I have ever come to being back at "the show", leaving with that shit eatin grin and "KNOWING" & "UNDERSTANDING" what just went down and all you can say is Thank God for the "Good 'Ol Grateful Dead" -
THEY CAN NEVER BE REPLACED OR REPLICATED AND THIS ARRANGEMENT-"THE DEAD" -SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE MAGIC !

I'm still gettin' hammered tonight.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael (Jckstrw) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 02:05 pm: Edit Post

So you want to get rid of Bobby, Bill, and Mickey from "THE DEAD" and what bring in everyone from the best band in the world, PLQ?

the dead is not plq, never tried to be. probably dont want to be.

I dont get why there is so much Bobby bashing about setlists and of all things singing.
Have you heard Phil Lesh sing. we've all grown accustom i think. but let him sing for someone who doesnt know of him and 100 out of 100 would prefer Bob.

if you dont like what the Dead is doing, why waste your money to go and listen?

People just like to bitch about everything


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bent howard (Bent1) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 02:09 pm: Edit Post

hey- I am going to be running very late. Could anyone provide me with the best route coming from NYC. I would be most thankful!
Any thoughts on the venue?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew Gutknecht (Mattgoodie) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 02:16 pm: Edit Post

Based on last night's setlist, here's my predictions for tonight:

Minglewood>
Walkin' Blues>
Bury Me Standing>
El Paso
LL Rain>
Picasso Moon

Supplication>
Lazy Lighting>
Bombs Away>
Victim Or the Crime>
Ashes & Glass>
Corrina>
Easy Answers>
Artifical Flowers>
Masterpiece

Bobby Beard Rap
E: One More Saturday Night


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Timmy O (Smuckers) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:33 pm: Edit Post

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - BRING BACK WARREN AND MOLO -LET THE "REAL" GOOD TIMES ROLL AGAIN

Not to burst bubbles and I KNOW this will get me black listed, but I always thought that Molo screwed up the timing of the music, he was TOO on the beat. Crazy Fingers was wickedly messed up every time I heard PLAF play it as were a lot of other songs that aren't coming to memory right now. Haynes, although I love his singing, seemed to be very spidery in his playing which sometimes worked and but most of the time didn't.

Sure I saw some excellent show with PLAF (i.e. Augusta 99, Worcester 99, Hartford 01, SPAC 01, Red Rocks, GOTV 2nd night but the O1s from last year put all that to shame. I am planning to catch this band from July 4th on to whenever I can, so I can not give a true feel for what they have going on, however, I am fairly confident in listening to bits and pieces of this tour, that they are much more open and daring than PLAF (Still PISSED that PHIL didn't break out GOOD VIBRATIONS at the VIBES last year...haha) ever was...
On paper, they have much more range and options than PLAF but from what I read they don't seem to be tapping into this potential...
I feel bad for the people bummed out by the "quality" of the show they caught but just like Dicks Picks says "Cavet Empor or whatever", you can't always get what you want.
I wonder if people got caught up in the Hype that went with all this sh!t... from where I left off in last year's shows (Philly) I expect a lot but I will not be dissapointed if I see an all Bobby show or an all Phil show... I will just be glad I got to see them one more time because of all the other bands that I have been seeing as of late, none do it for me like these guys...
I am not going to say don't come to the shows or quit your bitching cause it bums me out, because this is a personal thing for me, it always has been. I just hope that you all have the best possible time at the show by keeping it real and helping others to keep it real...remember when you'd come out of a show thinking, "what a hot show that was" only to have a vet or newbie yelling or talking about what a lame-o show that was... BUZZKILL...
Just plug along, you know you're going to get rewarded with a killer show somewhere along the line that you can tell your buddies "should've been there last night.." just like fishing...
and if it was your last show on your tour, just rehash the good moments that came along, this tour or previous tours because there ain't going to be too many more....

RANDOM B!TCH: Change the name back to The Other Ones because I am not going to change my OTHER1S plate back any time soon....
Actually that leads me to a question of sorts, do you all think that THIS tour above all others is about the $$$ due to the fact that they changed their name to The Dead??? I do, just wondering about your thoughts....

HAVE A PFREAKING AWESOMELY WIER TIME TONIGHT

After last night's set list, this is what I am hoping for you guys:

I:
DArk StAr JAm (hints and teases)>
Uncle John's Bob>
Jam>Brown Eyed Women (Rob and Joan)>
Womanizing Bob Tune (U pick)>
Two Souls In Communion (Joan)
Dark Star Verse 1>
Stronger than Dirt

II:
Drums>
Victim>
Cryptical>
Otherone>
Cryptical>
Lady w/Fan>
Space>Eternity>
Dark Star (verse II)>
Terripan Station>
Bird Song>
WRS Suite>
Let It Grow>
Golden Road
Donar Rap
China Cat Sunflower>
Playing (Reprise)

"...rather be with you, be with you..."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 06:47 pm: Edit Post


to end Steve Wonwood's set:

Bob, Phil, Joan, Mickey & Billy

join Winwood for Gimme Some Lovin'


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike (Welovephil) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 07:56 pm: Edit Post

Let us know what the dead open with


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:21 pm: Edit Post

so far...

6/25/03: Set 1: Slip->Franklin’s->Baba Jingo (w/SW keys and drummers)->Low Spark (v.1&2, w/ SW keys, vocals, and SW’s drummers and horn)->Music Never Stopped (w/SW keys and horn player), Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. (Estprophet) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:33 pm: Edit Post

wow...looks good so far if this is legit!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:34 pm: Edit Post

6/25/03: Set 1: Slip->Franklin’s->Baba Jingo (w/SW keys and drummers)->Low Spark (v.1&2, w/ SW keys, vocals, and SW’s drummers and horn)->Music Never Stopped (w/SW keys and SW’s horn), Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Bertha.

taper rob will be here soon to make sure i got it right.

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:43 pm: Edit Post

The Dead - PNC Arts Center, NJ 6/25/03

Set 1:
Slipknot>
Franklin's Tower>
#%Baba Jingo>
#%*Low Spark (v1 & v2, Winwood vocal)>
#*Music Never Stopped
^Me & My Uncle
Mr Charlie (Joan)
Bertha (Bob)

# w/Steve Winwood - keyboard
% w/2 drummers from Winwoods band
* w/horn player from Winwoods band
^ Bob - acoustic


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. (Estprophet) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:50 pm: Edit Post

nice work Peggy-O...I never doubted you! Looks great on paper, hope it sounds like a symphony of the gods.

I hope tonights music sticks it to everyone who tosses negative comments around everytime the boys have a bad night.

There's still nothin' like the Good Ole Grateful Dead!!!!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iannai (Mule) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:59 pm: Edit Post

dead


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By august (Augustwest80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:07 pm: Edit Post

WTF? Now Rob isn't allowed to sing BERTHA? What did he do to deserve this? Bobby should stick to his own songs, he has enough trouble with those.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:08 pm: Edit Post

I hope its all good tonight and everyone has loads of fun.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:10 pm: Edit Post

I want Rob to have fun too, so I wish would ding more.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kelly (Psychcircus) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:17 pm: Edit Post

You guy's are TRUE soldiers!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael (Jckstrw) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:20 pm: Edit Post

Let Bob Sing Every Song!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LazyLightnin' (Supplication) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:21 pm: Edit Post

Yeah - I thought Bobby was in the Dead when Bertha was written - I think all the versions you know and love he probably played on as well as helped arranged
OH ! - You mean PLQs Bertha - oh yeah Rob sings that - he's from Zen Tricksters


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LazyLightnin' (Supplication) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:24 pm: Edit Post

Scrot0 - theres an excellent Bobby & The Midnites show from The Jamaica World Music Fest in (i think 81) it's on GDLive and it smokes - features future Other1s members too! No Jerry on this recording - only for the truly Weird


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sean McAuley (Seanmm) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:30 pm: Edit Post

I would like to compliment brewks on a fine review. I am going to Camden so don't get me wrong, but this band has been quite lame. I say that with the highest expectations and 16 years of seeing the dead ratdog and plq. I said it once I'll say it again. send joan home, Mickey put the Mike away, stop trying sooo hard to complicate songs like the wheel and all this rap and shit. Guys, for the love of God, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Stick to the music you know. I love you all, the dead, the fans the scene. But maybe i am holding onto a dream and hope is got me glued to the internet, the websites, the setlists...etc... There is no continuity, the songs are abrupt and so far removed from what I once new that I don't recognize the people on stage. Let me clarify something, Ratdog and Bob Weir is the most high energy thing happening out their. If you have not seen ratdog then don't comment, if you have speak your mind. Ratdog is inventive, tight, and a possitive vibe. Bobby has been doing great on his own and he doesn't need these guys. Heck, they all changed the name to the Dead from the Otherones without even asking him. He was on tour and they said, hey, this is what we are doing. Tough. Yeh, real cool guys. Dick over your buddy of 30 years. Phil is a control freak and they are in it for the money and that is it. Bobby is the only one with any talent and soul left in this group. I never liked warren haynes or phil and friends too much, they are ok but i am not crazy about Phils arrangements. He tweaks dark star and terrapin so much it sounds weird. Ok we get the point,you know music. Bottom line. This band can do great things, i have seen it from time to time, but i thinks its best that they split. Later joan, back to Hawaii Billy, later mickey, onto phil and friends Phil and Bobby, bring on ratdog. I know of bar bands that play the deads music better than they do. This DOES HURT to say and be honest about, but what the fuck? Your music is easy to play. Simple scales, straight forward chords, easy rythym. Whats the big deal?!! Jam lound and furious for crying out loud. Just jam and play it the way you feel it to be and not how you wish it was or how you think the crowd will like it more. And the setlists. Why didn't they just leave the chronology and sequence the way it was? 1st set, 2nd set drums, space a few songs to finish up strong end of story. I am very disaspointed. I hope Camden rocks.

Later/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:49 pm: Edit Post



so far...

Set 2: Jam->Ruben and Cherise (J)->No More Do I, Born Cross-Eyed->Jam


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By agatha christe (Lhmonkeyrench) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:00 pm: Edit Post

They have quieted RB now please please quiet Phil!!!!!!! My ears can not take it anymore.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Sullivan (Sully72) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:01 pm: Edit Post

What a bore this place has become. And yet I can't help but respond! Long live hypocrisy.

Seen Ratdog about 10 times, PLQ about 12 times and 4 TOO shows last fall and 5 on this tour (and the GD "proper" 53 times) Loved them all, but I am very happy with the way the Dead sound now. Somebody made a comment earlier about how they should stick to what they know and how you "can't teach an old dog new tricks."
How about putting yourself in the shoes of the musicians? I don't think they want to be a nostalgia act, nor do I think they sound like one. Maybe the old dog here who can't learn any new tricks is not the band, but rather, the listener. If that's the case, maybe you should put in your favorite tape from years past, fire one up, kick back and relax, because they sure as shit aren't the same band as they used to be, nor do they owe it to anyone to try and replicate that sound. Dark Star Orchestra is available if that's what you want. Personally I think they sound great, am pleased as hell that they are out there, and am looking forward to my 6th and 7th shows on this tour in the coming weeks.

These are all opinions of course, mine and others expressed on the board, but it still seems like the criticism is often really unnecessarily personal, scathing and downright childish.

Christ, these guys are like 8 shows into the tour and because they don't sound like vintage '77 Dead people are disappointed. Well fuck that - what they do is not like popping a CD in and hearing a perfect performance everytime. Although in some ways they are an old band, they did spend about 7 years apart and are still a new band in many ways.

Anyways, I make no apologies or excuses for these guys, I think they sound great and will only get better. Opinions will vary though.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ben Childs (Philleshhead) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:07 pm: Edit Post

thanks brian -- icouldn't have said it better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By august (Augustwest80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:17 pm: Edit Post

Yeah I agree, I have been pretty happy with the shows I have seen so far (SPAC and GrateWoods) and I am excited for two nights in Camden.

In person, Joan is not nearly as annoying as one would think.

I think the playing of Jimmy Herring has gotten alot better/ more comfortable, though he is not yet fully out if his shell.

Also, the setlists, for the most part have a lot of old chestnuts in them...Here Comes Sunshine, Mr. Charlie, Viola Lee, Golden Road, Alligator, Born Cross Eyed etc. Alot of the setlists are "deadhead" setlists...i.e. not setlists a casual observer could fully appreciate. Personally, this is one reason I have liked the shows so much, they haven't been predictable in that the boys are actually playing the old, old stuff along with everything else.

I think this new incarnation will only get better as time goes on.

My only complaint is that they really seemed to be clicking on fall tour with Rob singing. I think Joan adds a nice dynamic on stage and to songs such as China Doll (stunning would be a correct word for the GrateWoods version) however she sings lead too much. I have said many times, Rob has a GRATE voice. He brings energy and a very Jerry quality to Bertha, China Cat, Eyes, Bertha, Casey Jones etc.

With Rob back in the fold singing and a few more shows under their belt, The Dead will be a new (re-born) machine....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Freddy Pinson (Dsmither) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:20 pm: Edit Post

What about the rest of the second set?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Geoff Snow (Kazoobean) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:24 pm: Edit Post

I heard the same bitching when Shakedown Street came out: Crap, the Dead have gone disco! And again with Touch of Grey/ Hell: Crap, the Dead have gone mainstream! Funny how a little historical perspective changes things.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:27 pm: Edit Post

so far...

Set 2: Jam->Ruben and Cherise (J)->No More Do I, Born Cross-Eyed->Jam->Dark Star v.1 (w/ sw’s horn player)->Spacey Jam->Lady with a Fan->Peggy-o->Lady with a Fan->Terrapin Station->Rob/Billy Jam ->Drums


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. (Estprophet) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:31 pm: Edit Post

oh man this is shaping up to be a beauty!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric S. Crane (Weirhigh) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 10:46 pm: Edit Post

interesting set his evening, hope they do all of terrapin (at a siding and alhambra) before finishing up the darkstar (and where did pegy-o show up in lady with a fan?)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olo (Olompali4) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:32 pm: Edit Post

Hunter incorporates the character, Peggy-O in his "Ivory Wheels on a Rosewood Track" section of Terrapin Station found on the Jack O' Roses LP.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:47 pm: Edit Post

6/25/03: Set 1: Slip->Franklin’s->Baba Jingo (w/SW keys and drummers)->Low Spark (v.1&2, w/ SW keys, vocals, and SW’s drummers and horn)->Music Never Stopped (w/SW keys and SW’s horn), Me & My Uncle (B, acoustic), Mr. Charlie (J), Bertha (B)

Set 2: Jam->Ruben and Cherise (J)->No More Do I, Born Cross-Eyed->Jam->Dark Star v.1 (w/ horns)->Spacey Jam->Lady with a Fan->Peggy-o->Lady with a Fan->Terrapin Station->Rob/Billy Jam -> “psycho mickey beam jam (aka dr. mickey beam jam)->Drums->space (w/SW horns)->Dark Star v.2 (w/horns)->Little Red Rooster (w/horns), The Other One->Sugaree.

encore: Attics

pending corrections from those who were there :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zen (Zen) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:59 pm: Edit Post

good job peggy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:14 am: Edit Post

thanks, zen! it was a lot easier tonight since i wasn't monitoring ebay auctions! instead i'm just tryin to get some work done. and i got to hear some of the peggy-o, so it was worth it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bent howard (Bent1) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:46 am: Edit Post

this show sucked....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By AW (Andrewwig) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:53 am: Edit Post

Just got in from show. FANTASTIC, high energy show with both straigtforward rockers and substantive jams. (Night and day between this and the night before.) All members of the band had a featured spot which highlighted each person's contributions. Guest musicians were well showcased; Low Spark was a gem. The Slip->Franklin's opener was a total class move. It made me re-think the 2 day run as a 3 act play: day 1 (through BT Wind) as the first act, Tomorrow Never knows > No More Do I as act 2 and Born Cross Eyed > Attics as Act 3. Nice arc.

If I have one issue it was too much music! The Other One (only 5 min long and started from a dead stop) and Rooster were superfluous. I would bet that neither were on the setlist.

Killer show boys. Thank you for a real good time.

(Can't wait to hear you play Whiskey River w/ Wille in Camden!!)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mtjam (Mtjam) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:22 am: Edit Post

just got home, and all i can say is wow!!!!!!!!!!! a truly great show!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Knobler (Sknobler) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:44 am: Edit Post

was this the same band as last night??? wow. Born Cross-Eyed was SMOKIN...great Bobby vocals, spit and all. Sing to me...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chip Humble (Cwhumble3) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:03 am: Edit Post

I've read a lot of stuff on this board the last few days, some over the top positive, some over the top negative. Tonight was the real deal, anyone who has any compalints should find another band to see, because I don't think this band is going to get much better than tonight. A truly awesome show. Thank you. Thank you very much.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim (Tjw) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:16 am: Edit Post

GOD BLESS BOB WEIR!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nick Williams (Thegrape) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:41 am: Edit Post

top 10 grateful dead experience. this is one for the ages. sparked further appreciation for each and every member in the band. wonderful song selection and flow (even the rooster and other one, which were perfunctory, but were well played). the first and second sets are becoming more like first and second sets, which worked beautifully tonight. i knew from the start of slipknot! that the foul stain of last night had been instantly wiped away.
personal highlights: slip>franklin's>baba jingo; reuben and its closing jam; the jimmy jam and closing jam of sugaree; all of the dark star, especially the jam into the second verse; rob solo accompanied only by kreutzmann (hell of a drummer) and jeff solo on rooster; no more do i and jam following it; terrapin station (lady was a little slow); and the crazy as all get out space with winwood's sax player. so basically what i'm saying is that the second set was the shit.
hear this show at all costs, best show of the tour so far, worth hearing (and paying for) last night for this, etc...etc...
did i mention this is one for the tokers?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TLII (Mooseman) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:55 am: Edit Post

WORDS ARE NOT NECESSARRY!
THE SMILE AND BLNKY EYES PHIL HAD DURING ATTICS
SAID IT ALL
I HOPE SCHNEE GOT THE SHOT.
AND THANKS TOO ALL THE EXCELLENT PLAYERS.
SPECIAL THANKS TO BOBBY...TIME TO SHAVE THOUGH.
LONG LIVE THE DEAD...BUT KEEP THOSE PLQ SHOWS COMING PHIL!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 04:48 am: Edit Post

About 10 of us just listened to entire show in chatroom..Thanks Taperrob..

This one seemed differnet than the others..Not a dance phunk show..

It sounded and felt like something larger than that..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:43 am: Edit Post

Oh....welll....WOW
just motha FUCKIN WOW
all OVER the map.

Glad to know you guys are out there....you people who hate Joan....who dislike the way the music is orchestrated....FREAKING EMBRACE THE CHANGE PEOPLE

the dead is about change and experiment and FUCKING GET OVER IT.

ahem.

Joan Osborne is amazing. Showstopper. Singer. Brings soul and fun and a mothalode of sexy SHEBANG to that stage. Love it or proclaim yourself a CORPSE.

Bob Weir is so damn lovable. AND ON. Weather Report! Black Throated! Lost Saint! BORN CROSS EYED....love the Cosmic Bob Weir. You know you got such dark eyes :-) Love to laugh at you with you...tonight you tore up ROOSTER BROTHA and you are indeed OG ORIGINAL GANGSTAH

Rob Barraco your gig tonight was so inspired....that bit leading into drums....so much beauty you bring ALL THE TIME

Bill K best KIT drummer EVAH you are the MAN TRUE thank YOU very much THANK YOU

Mickey you scare me with that saw
but you are one cosmic rapscallion

JEFF so nice to hear you - what an improvement over TOO sound - love it

JIMMY SHINES
JIMMY GLISTENS AND GLOWS
JIMMY :-)

Phil drives the bus
always have always will
every note from him is gold
every word from his mouth is as though an angel sings
PHIL YOU ARE FANTASTIC
and yr unbroken chain was divine
(pnc 2 and mansfield tie for #1 imho at this point then va beach....then hartford...FOR ME)

To serve the legacy well of the Grateful Dead
it must have magic
not every song need be dead on ;)
but it must have the possibilty of SUCH

THIS INCARNATION OF THE DEAD DOES INDEED HAVE...
POSSIBILITY
TONIGHT PROVES IT TO ME
THIS CONTAINS THE POSSIBILITY OF MAGIC

TONIGHT WAS A SOUL TORNADO.....

from a healing dark star terrapin peggy o sandwich.....I processed it so differently than the Merriweather one. Within Dark Star....cosmic. An Other One which began almost delicately.....a Sugaree with the goobye gusto of Joan’s soul serenade.
Born Cross Eyed - my first WOOO HOOOO
Attics....I wept....fought it against myself....smiling through the tears.
It was transforming.
And you will scoff and you will shrug and rationalize my enthusiasm.
You were not there....you did not see the roof of the PNC Palace swirl with Candace’s nightfall of diamonds.....you did not feel the sun after so much rain....the hot air beating down.....

egads -
ROOSTER! best rooster ever
so much energy
go joan go

Peggy O vocals stelllllah PHIL ON LWAF tremendous
TERRAPIN!!!! (go crowd GO GO GO)
INSPIRATION INDEED
This band sings!!!!

Ruben....better than VA if only bc Joan felt the song more
it has a LOT OF WORDS
but go girl
it’s a beaut

only issue w/Sugaree was....a small voice in my head was crying AM DEW
joan on dew would be enormous
CONSIDER

drums is WILD at these shows
sit and watch the drums
you will not be disappointed

THANK YOU STEVE WINWOOD AND BAND
what a great run
yr sax player blew out he hartford stephen and added so much again tonight
I love yr band
and YOU, Steve WInwood, sing like an angel

SO MANY ANGELS ON STAGE EVERY NIGHT

and thank you PZ
posse of kindness
power of love
shine on my friends
for the TRUTH IS SENT FROM ABOVE

the wind carries secrets
listen sincere
and tell me
exactly
the thing that you hear

LITES ROBIN and DAYDREAM
MAMMA and PAPPA
THE LT GT BAGO rollllllll
doss and mrs LOVE YA
althea and the stalwart B (thanks for driving the huckmobile)
the BRADFEST lovedawg (what a guy - soul of GOLD I see)
the snizzle ((PIERCES PIT - 4 stars))

god it seems an age
a long long time ago
VA BEACH
we started south
and picked up as we go
saw jackstraw hurricane fog angelique damon and more
it’s late tonight as you see
my memory - eeeeee
I know you forgive all the holes
a trampoline picture
VW bus - hey man can you fix it?
so it’s loud....what the fuss?

PACE and the kindness
thanks for the grub.....I DO love yr digs
glad you lived through the hit and run

for even a burglar cant disturb the peace
brick through yr window -PLEASE
fuck off thief
we got control
of the PZ lovemob RULE

THE GREAT GREAT WOODS
bucky and puckewedan....
keyshawn...in hartford....
and SI - love ya man
laughing bones happy that you came along
and glad we could dance for a couple of songs

MIDY SWEL NAVIGATOR
monsieur extraodinare
so happy that you made it man
so glad that we could share

Bosphan in the Goodyear lot
man you stole my heart
feeding Huckle dhicken wings
them Pringles hit the spot....

we walked and walked
it rained and rained
the ponchos got some use
my knee is shot
I’m bruised and bent
but BRING ON MORE ABUSE

Wally with cell phone!!!!!
FRITZ you the MAN
and dew - glad you’re getting a NJ tan
SCHMEGG AND PAUL, WHERE ARE YOU????
get down to wookie lot
hissss hissssss don’t moan
no good thar cell phone
CAM-DEN
the next hot spot

SKINS!!! you have to be a joke
you know you’re off yer rocker
BUT GLAD TO SEE YOU BROTHA

emergency call
when you meant down the hall
HYPONTIQ LOVE MOB FULL FORCIN
forget the bad roach
but “learn the play” said the coach
so our team can see one more post season

rich and rob glad to meet you, hob NOB
and kevin DD it was much too brief SIR

MERMAID you rock chick
just ask us
too TRUE :-)
it was simply magnificent
and im glad we’re not through
RITTENHOUSE ROMP
(and I’m sellin WOOHOO)

there’s more on this ride
FLA FREAKS step aside
and jones beach is more than a rumor
VIBES ON THE RADAR
Trucks be in Brooklyn
HOLD ON my dear ones
THIS SUMMER IS COOKIN
and we need not mourn here
Philco is in gear
and a fall of beauty will be FOR THE TAKIN

PNC 2. A cosmic ascent
thank you my friends....for one hell of a ride
I’ve NO TIME for DEFCON
all drama aside

the music is IN US
they play it first rate
go to a show
hell
bring a date
be proud of this band
be proud of the dead
wave wide yr freak flag
you silly DEADHEAD
taste the sweet magic
that drips from the moon
when you hear the sweet notes of yr favorite tune
and all of the what ifs go slipping away
there’s only the moment
JUST NOW
TODAY
take it
and shift it
you freakin dark star
shall we go while we can
yes we will
very far

A hug from my heart
a shake of yr hand
so nice to meet you
the new old rock band
and Philzone
YOU KNOW IT
you are all SO FINE
So certainly twisted
uniquely sublime

I’ve rattled and rambled
I thank you for yr heart
now to bed
back then again
one more time
from the start


AROOOOOO
DAWN CHASER NEVER STUMBLES


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew A. (Gilligan) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:55 am: Edit Post

few can argue that the best years of Saturday Night Live were back when belushi, chevy, murray, akroyd, radner and crew were at the helm. there's no doubting this. yet, the show kept going. and with it brought eddie murphy, phil hartman and will ferrell. yes there were duds in between. yes there were bad years, but i for one am glad they kept the show going after all the original folks left. if only because we got to see a murphy, hartman and ferrell. were these casts as good as the first season? probably yes and no at various times. my point being that as much as i miss jerry, and brent and pigpen and all the rest, i'm glad this band, in whatever form they take, still goes out and plays some tunes. in the same way i like hearing duke ellington music played live, if even by a high school jazz band, it's nice to hear these great songs being played in some venue other than my living room stereo. it's fun to see the crowd. to see the lights. to hear a familiar guitar riff or vocal (yes, even bobby's) coming through a large p.a. system.
i'd rather have "the dead" go out and play music and occasionally have a magical night of music than simply sit at home and listen to my tapes and CDR's of great shows gone by. i'm not trying to justify every show "the dead" play, but i'm damn glad they're out there trying. trying to make some great music. trying to make a connection with somebody in the audience. trying to keep their legacy relevant and kicking. in the same way it would be a shame if nobody tried to play the music of duke ellington, or coltrane, or davis, or sinatra, or janis, or garcia simply because they weren't around to do it themselves, i'm glad these guys and girls in "the dead" are doing what they can to keep the wonderful vibe they invented musically 30 years ago still alive and hopefully infectious to fans both veteran and newbies. i think this summer would suck a bit more if "the dead" weren't out there doing something.
that said, i'm hoping for a "hell in a bucket" come aug. 3.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 07:05 am: Edit Post

Best bet for a good show?
The night after a lousy one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By shag (Clifton_hanger) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 07:25 am: Edit Post

you got that right, BOTB. I had the same thought, and ALMOST was smart enough to make it over. the next two are in my town, tho:-)

thanks, Huck. your posts almost always make me smile (you should bottle that stuff and sell it in the lot). and an AM Dew from Joan would certainly be hard to beat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olo (Olompali4) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:01 am: Edit Post

The Dead as Saturday Night Live is a decent analogy..but only when one equates Robert Hunter with Lorne Michaels


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sheila Finkelstein (Sheila) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:08 am: Edit Post

Huckberry,

Thanks for saying so much of what I feel about last night. Was at both PNC shows...First was ok but last night had moments of pure magic...Cried during attics also..got to get to work...glad i dedcided to go to Jones Beach also...

Enjoy,
Sheila


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By midyswel (Mightyswell) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:09 am: Edit Post

now THAT looks like a beast!

glad to see the inspirational fire's still burnin' brightly in ya warrior chica! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:26 am: Edit Post

>only issue w/Sugaree was....a small voice in my head was crying AM DEW
joan on dew would be enormous
CONSIDER

Great idea!

I haven't been on Philzone in quite sometime, but the setlist last night - WOW! DNC is pretty silent about it so far, so I'm glad to see some reviews in here. Hope y'all had fun!

I can't wait for Austin on the 4th, and then JONES BEACH!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:34 am: Edit Post

Sheila, you're not related to Ben Finkelstein, are you? From Annapolis, MD?

And Olompali - same from DNC? I'm CrazyCat_ over there (that's probably obvious)...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:47 am: Edit Post

Andrew A. - I fully agree with your last paragraph. Why let Garcia's songs sit getting dusty on some 'shelf of sacred songs' or something? It is so counter to everything I've ever read re: his take on music and what it should be (and its very counter to my perception of music, especially GD music). It is for the people! He made his way on the songs of his heros...why should anyone (ESPECIALLY members of the same band Jerry was in!) be forbidden to play Jerry's tunes?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard H. (Howardh1) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:47 am: Edit Post

Who's turn is it to open the next show in Camden?


Jerry?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TOM MCGANN (Bklynpolar) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:57 am: Edit Post

what a fantastic show
great songs
good voices
good crowd

rocking

what a sugaree

as stated earlier this was one for the ages
buy the cd





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olo (Olompali4) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 08:58 am: Edit Post

KKat..One and the same...

Crop circles on another post in here are freaking me out y'all!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:04 am: Edit Post

Is there any way to change my username (i.e. KrazyKat)? KK gets weird after awhile - people on DNC started to wonder ;-) Is there a more 'on-topic' place for me to ask this?

Crop circles?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rik longenecker (Elwood1) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:07 am: Edit Post

What a difference a day makes. This show holds up well compared to any show from any era. GD music doesn't get much better. The reviews from other nights suggest inconsistency. That may continue for awhile, but last night served definite notice that they are back.

I wonder if someone had a talk with Joan. She really toned her shakin down tonight compared with last nite. I was right in front of the keyboards on Tues. and when she came over and started gettin into it i went for my dollar bills. Not that I minded, her voice was fine both ways.

I saw security busting tapers last nite. Is that so they can sell more of the discs? Anybody have any experiences?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad kelsky (Bkelsky) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:09 am: Edit Post

Wow! Finally positive reviews. I, for one, am glad to hear that there are still good vibes around here. . . . starting to notice some darkness was clouding everything.

I know as a group we tend to be overly critical- (For me, I know PLQ has just about spoiled anything I listen to) - but, there will be bad nights; there will be good nights; there will be great nights. From my point of view, with the talent of the band as a whole, a bad night is still better than a good night for almost everyone else.

Just my .02


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:12 am: Edit Post

rik - were they busting people doing FOB recording, or in the tapers section? I've emailed (and others have to) munckmix, who is doing this stuff, and their response on this is essentially 'we have no bearing on the Dead's taper policy - we do not, however, allow trading of discs you buy from us.'

So I doubt it was related to the CD sales.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian D (Bluestnote) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:12 am: Edit Post

WOW. Just so phucking ON. The Billy/Rob interlude was astounding. Totally locked in to each other, reacting to each change of tempo or dynamics in the same breath. Each laying down the base for the other to launch off of. Rooster was huge. Attics was sublime.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:14 am: Edit Post

This show smoked your mommas ass!
phil brought game!

10th row.
dark star.-->

:-O

review later. ive got to look and pretend like im not still drunk right now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:20 am: Edit Post


Phil took the second set by the CAJONES MAN!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:27 am: Edit Post

Joan's 1/2 of why Merriweather was so damn good, imo ;)

Arrrgh! Winwood's set is great and all, but I want the stream to come back around to the Slip>Frank opener!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dan (Gratefuldan) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:36 am: Edit Post

One word for last night WOW.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By neils (Mrsmiley) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:41 am: Edit Post

did anyone who was really close up last night see bobby get real "upset" for a minute during sugaree? i may have misread his body language but i was curious if anyone else saw it or if they knew what it was about - btw - great show - not even like the same band from the night before


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By damon willison (Verve13) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:45 am: Edit Post

damn thats wonderful to hear. glad to hear everyone had a great time.

nice huck :-) (that trampoline picture you mention just got developed, will post later today)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richie Nagan (Negman) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:47 am: Edit Post

One word: MAGICAL!!!!

I'll elucidate later (have to get some work done).

Live love laugh & be happy

Richie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:49 am: Edit Post

So on DNC someone is saying that just after Bobby messed up the chorus to Sugaree, Joan made him take a guitar solo, at which point he pulled off the crescendo (a la Jerry) and brought everyone back down...maybe just after the screwed up chorus is when he looked upset?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By buzzy napoli (Buzzy) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:53 am: Edit Post

All I can say is that I LOVE PHIL! What a show. The Peggy-O almost made me faint...sent chills down my spine. Phil sang quite a bit and boy was i glad to hear it. PHIL PHIL PHIL! :-) GREAT SHOW!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean (Deano) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:58 am: Edit Post

Got to love the ebb and flow. Sounds like a good night was had. Bring on Camden.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By neils (Mrsmiley) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 09:58 am: Edit Post

thanks eric - that makes sense - didn't seem like too big of a deal - just curious - onward to camden - woo hoo!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean (Deano) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:04 am: Edit Post

Rastamahn Vibration yeah! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Capt. Morgan (Capt_morgan) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:22 am: Edit Post

Right On!!

Finally some good vibes coming from the folks who saw the show.

Sounded like an amazing show

Can't wait for Jones Beach!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By womyn (Browneyed) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:23 am: Edit Post

your mamma! what a sizzler in Joisey. the band was great. the first, "not as good" night definitely gave birth to a mother show. The band clicked much better, tho it is still Bobby's band, kind of and Phil can also front a band really well. would love to hear Rob sing and the person that posted "if you don't love Joan you're a corpse" is totally right. She is sexy and soulful and ripe but not aged (like the guys ;) and she will take you down. The sound was great, the vibe was great, the people were into it.

Go see the band. Go home and smile when you listen to last night's show and BE HAPPY! They're here, we're here - live life.

And well, we can continue the discussion about kids on tour next summer because I am done for this summer. Still bums me out to see the little kids being trotted up from the orchestra section with their hands over their ears and the kids sleeping on blankets on the ground after the show surrounded by garbage - was not so different from slums in Mexico and the Philippines. I am all for kids seeing the band and loving the music. Of course I want the young artists to thrive among the adults - I did buy hand made fairies from the pixie chicks selling them in the parking lot but I just want them all to be kids and have the same choices that all kids deserve.

Peace and love to the band for delivering in NJ. I hope they are around for many more years to play for us.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:26 am: Edit Post

alright, what the hell!

1 set highlight.
Mr. Charlie. and yes Joan. joan is cool. Charlie and Joan have never sounded better. but man did jimmy play...:-)

Set 2.

Rueben and cherise. Cool. fun song. 1 million spinners out on the lawn going nuts. saw people fly down the stairs and get really REALLY excited. whatever. i hope they didnt burn it all on Ruby.

Now for the review.
Born Cross-Eyed->Jam->Dark Star v.1

WHAM! thats right bobby! "feels like ive been here before....." phil on the low end Rooooolin. layin in the real soft ones. the harmonics were f-n awesome, drums in and man..JIMMY!!!:-O:-O:-O. anyone else notice that guitar he was playing. looked brand spankin new. my arms flying around in air drum mode. the party has begun and a really nice, smooth meltdown into v.1.

DARK STAR.
i was really hoping to get Phil>Rob>Joan(lady in velvet) in the first verse. After hearing PLQ play this many times, im a FREAK for the Phil>Rob>Warren lyrics. TONIGHT though, it went Phil>BOB>Joan. which was a-ok in my book cause right at this time i was 10th row with paul and our buddy jim (looked for you guys lessthan). Anyway, all signs read terrapin through the jam. Phil was ON! lady with a fan came in like a cool breeze. MAN DID PHIL SING FOR US.:-) -> peggy-o. another WHAM!. right now we are full out PHILZONE! big daddy playin in little thumpers here, little thumpers there... joan comes back out and has at a verse. SWEET. then bobby on v.2....THE INTENSITY IS OFF THE WALL! everyone knows whose next. in the back is phil, grinning ear to ear. jumps up stage front "As WEEE ROLLED OUT, OF FENERRIO!" I LOOSE IT! everyone in the PNC clear channel corporate center last night LOST IT! phil had the shake going. real deep lower rollers. SICK-O! tears of joy. peggy-o rocked! i remember turn to paul and yelling at him THAT WAS WORTH THE TRIP! my bud jim was yelling back they tryed that shit in merriweather. phil was on fire. he had NJ by the balls, again.

>lady with a fan /TERRAPIN.

a good build. the band missed inspiration. either the band or phil, i really dont know who fucked it up but they hung through, there was no loosing the intensity. WHERE CRICKETS AND CICADAS SING....:-O:-O:-O:-O.

i came to the show for that. and as the band broke apart for mickey, i wandered back up to the lawn for some cool air and stars. WOW!

We gott'em all last night. great attics too. Which joan just sounded fantastic on.

BUT WOW! ive still got peggy-o in my head this morning. WHAT A DARK STAR! :-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Whack (Whackahamster) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

It looks like they laid it on thick last night. That's neat how they finished the Slip>Franklins at the beginning of the set. Do you think somebody was reading this board and got the message?

I have to say again that the only show I caught was Hartford, and despite some miscues and fumbles, I think they put on a good show and they wouldn't have played a 2-hour set if they weren't into it. After watching the '90s GD featuring a sick and pathetic Garcia phone in show after show, it is refreshing to see them having fun with the music.

I do have to agree with the majority here--let Rob sing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Italian Spaghetti (Sloth) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

I wasnt there but I still had fun.
Thats how good this show was.

Bring the magic to Joliet IL!

I wonder what the Dylan & Moe dynamics will do for the Dead in IL?

Someone tell Joan to sonic-ly assaualt me in Joliet. Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Butze (Rbutze) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

As always, it is great to read all the reviews, concerns, who to keep, who to get rid of, "It's not the Grateful Dead, and on and on. That is the beuty of this whole scene. Having been to probably way to many GD shows (about 300...read old guy) 15 P@F shows, and many Ratdog, Other Ones, Garcia...etc,etc,etc......the bottom line to me is that IT'S STILL FUN!!!! Sure, I find myself thinking about the GD Shows I saw in the early 70's....but then I am brought back to reality....there were shows back then that sucked as well....and because we did not have the luxury of the internet and these forums...word of mouth was slow.....and there were minor influences on how one viewed a show....in other words people saw shows with a minimal amount of input about other performances...so it was judge for yourself. Sure, after seeing 5-10 shows or more in a row you could make better judgements or talked ot other folks....but it is not like today.
As far as Today's state of affairs....I like them...I think Joan adds a little special sauce to the mix that can only get better...China Doll at Great Woods was the balls..I also thought she did a great job on Rueben and Cherise last night.
However, these guys are not firing on all cylinders....the frustration is they show signs of it ...and signs of improvement from show to show....but those smoothe tranitions are still not quite there. Fits and starts comes to mind. Some one earlier said that it looks like they are trying to hard.....I think that is a fair analysis. I do love the fact that they are bringing out some songs not heard in years as well as mixing some RD and P@F songs. Remember this....everytime the GD had a new song...How long did it take to really get it going? Sometimes a whole tour...sometimes a couple of years. The same applies to this band and the old/new material they are introducing. We have placed such high expectations on them that we want it perfect right away..because we compare to the old days...or to P&F or RD etc.. I like these guys...last night was my last show of this tour (Merriweather, SPAC, GW, prior) and all had some great moments that I can not wait to hear on the CD...I am bummed that I can not see any more...well maybe I will....because they will keep getting better and better. The bottom line for me is that we should all consider ourselves lucky to have the opportunity to see so much great music from all of these bands and who cares who is better on what night etc, etc, etc. It is still the best music out there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dan (Gratefuldan) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:31 am: Edit Post

Well put Greg.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Butze (Rbutze) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:31 am: Edit Post

Oh yea...one last comment.....CRANK UP THE SOUND!!!....It still could be louder.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:32 am: Edit Post

Damn! Jimmy sounds fantastic on this Franklins! Thanks pz.com for the stream!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:37 am: Edit Post

"Jimmy sounds fantastic "

new guitar??!?
anyone?

wait until you hear the charlie. jimmy smokes it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sean Clark (Clarksean) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:39 am: Edit Post

Long time reader, first time posting.

I am still scratching my head in my attempts to describe last night's show. Mickey Hart wrote in tour journal that they expanded their song base to include up to 150 or so songs, up from 108 from last fall. Do they feel that it's necessary to play all of them in one week? While the variety is refreshing, I think it detracts from their focus. Rather than zone in on one song and explore it, it seems they are more concerned with the seque into the next song. Over and over, they would start a nice groove and abandon it. For the most part, its all sweetness to my ears but you just get the sense that something is disjointed.

New sound system is good but it needs to be MUCH LOUDER. Did anyone understand a word from Phil during Terapin or his donor rap?

As someone remarked earlier, I did not leave last night with that stupid grin on my face. I left with a normal smile.

Let's see what Camden holds.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:41 am: Edit Post

>new guitar??!?
anyone?

He was playing the PRS at Merriweather - sounds MUCH better than the Strat...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Butze (Rbutze) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:45 am: Edit Post

Greg...I thought Jimmy's guitar looked new..and had a fuller sound. Sean...until they find their way in some of the "newer" material ....that grove will take time to develop...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:56 am: Edit Post

He used to play a PRS with Jazz is Dead, FYI...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:57 am: Edit Post

^right! thanks eric.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Powers (Ahpowers34) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:06 am: Edit Post

Regarding Bobby getting angry during Surgaree....he just blew the chorus forgetting that Joan had another verse to sing. He was up there singing "Shake it...." and realized no one else was with him. Stepped back, knocked himself in the head a few times and moved on....Phil and Joan were laughing...at least from my angle that's what it looked like.

What a night!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:12 am: Edit Post

....that's a good point SEAN.

One thing I have been trying to figure out is how has this band gotten "worse" from the Other Ones of last fall? Most agree that these shows aren't quite up to where those were.

And the only thing I can think of that has changed, (other than Joan/susan) is a much larger song base, and a more conscious effort to keep the set lists unpredictable with odd pairings, etc. Scarlet-Fire, China-Rider is easy...but any musician knows how difficult a seamless transition is. And they are attempting some very strange ones.


Even PLQ in their prime relied on certain clusters of songs that seemed to flow well together as the band got used to the transitions, and key changes, etc.

Have to applaud the effort and love these guys. (c'mon, rooster in that slot!) No resting on their laurels. When their collective ability catches up with their collective intelligence...watch out! I predict many more shows like last night's....with a frenzied, historic, epic peak at the majestic Red Rocks Amphitheater.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sean McAuley (Seanmm) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:13 am: Edit Post

I feel that my review was a bit too critical I do love these guys and the shows are fun. Peace all and I will see you in Camden. I will always go see the dead and will always stand by them. Have fun and roll away the dew........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:13 am: Edit Post

SHAKE IT

exactly Powers
I laughed like a mothafucka
LOVE YA BOB

greg - sounds delicious
glad it was good for you toooooo
10th row, eh? DIVINE

wow.....they DID skip the inspiration....DIDN'T they.....
statements just seem vain at last
AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wild wild
long long
crazy crazy night
that's right :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By u hollis (U_hollis) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:14 am: Edit Post

listenning to this one and jiimy tore it apart on franklin's. and the me and my uncle. once again jimmy's notes are just realin' off. wow!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Fuller (Krazykat) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:21 am: Edit Post

I personally think that the shows this summer are blowing the fall out of the water. The songs are more concise, the jams seem to have more direction, etc...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:23 am: Edit Post

JIMMY SMOKED LAST NIGHTS SHOW!

sorry. i felt inclined to say it again.
huck, i saw skins.
lessthen offered to ticket me down to the Huckzone. that was just as we were packin for the 10 th row. missed you AGAIN my friend.....*sigh*

and BTW:
the SEABASS and BBQ ROCKED!
wally dont know what he missed. a perfect day, food wise. pork tenderloin >LB >seabass (5 pounds of it) >chicken >dessert> cigar... A PERFECT 10! :-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sheila Finkelstein (Sheila) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:29 am: Edit Post

Eric,

No relation. I post sporadically on all of the boards. Seen many shows(since 1974... Kingfish)and last night was right there with some of the best of them.. As someone said earlier, they're here,they're playing...enjoy...
Nothing left to do but smile,smile,smile:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:30 am: Edit Post

Jimmy smokes every show. He's outrageous.

This summer sends a depth charge to last fall and detonates on impact. Susan was great - did the Pig #s mejor justice - but she always seemed uncomfortable without her guitar...TO ME....
Joan needs no instrument, she herself is a Stradovarius - :-)
((((((CHINA DOLL)))))))


BBQ sounds good Greg
but all y'all who weren't chillin with Bubbles were MISSSIN IT
HEE


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hail Skins (Lastleaffallen) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:32 am: Edit Post

>>SKINS!!! you have to be a joke
you know you’re off yer rocker
BUT GLAD TO SEE YOU BROTHA

WHAT THE FUCK!!

wayyyy too much too fast for me and my crew last night..train wrecks all around during the second set


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Whack (Whackahamster) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:33 am: Edit Post

Oh man...I wasn't there last night, but I'm listening to it now. I really like Joan singing Reuben & Cherise. Sounds like this was THE show so far.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:33 am: Edit Post

"wow.....they DID skip the inspiration....DIDN'T they..... "

-no. im almost positive they did it, just missed key and blew the chord progession into it. The timing was off...but WTF man, IT WAS ALL VERY VERY GOOD!!! cool to see phil shrug it off and build it up again though!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rob (Aardvark) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:42 am: Edit Post

Jimmy, I finally could hear your essence last night and all I can say is thanks for being there, and trying, and keeping this thing alive, you're hard work is starting to pay off...too bad about your lead in Terrapin but the rest was fine especially first set. Barracco's jam with Billy shone and Joan's finding her way nicely except that she's not doing her homework. (i.e. it takes away from the flow when you have to read lyrics from the stage floor.) What a fantastic show musically. Sure Phil stepped in early on Terrapin, and sure Bob thought Sugaree was over when it wasn't, but who cares...it's all part of the trip and it only gets better and continues to grow and change like all of us. No one has mentioned the group hug and huddle they did before the first set. When I saw I saw that, I knew that the night before was history and they were there to redeem themselves. I could've used another tune after Attics but you can't have it all...that Born Cross Eyed was the shit. I can honestly say that The Daed are worth the Trip once again. Phil's bass was still only really audible in the first few rows which is really a shame for everyone. It's really great to be alive.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:45 am: Edit Post

To clarify for those who might be curious

I think Skins is the ultramegabomb
and everyone has an off night
BUT MAN
to not like last night??????

OOOOOEEEEEEE

Skins is NO JOKE
a TRUE FRIEND and GENT
but if you're lackluster
a little too spent
clean out the earwax
be happy with surprise
listen with yr heart
you wont believe yr eyes

but not to dis a fine feathered friend
skins dawg you know it
got yer back to the end

but last night I chortled when you said
DONT GET IT
it's all good my brother
truly
don't sweat it


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richie Nagan (Negman) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:47 am: Edit Post

>>Joan's finding her way nicely except that she's not doing her homework. (i.e. it takes away from the flow when you have to read lyrics from the stage floor.)

You try learning the lyrics to as many songs as she has to learn in as short a period of time as she has had. It's impossible. Besides, Warren reads the lyrics from a music stand when he plays with P&F. Maybe Joan should have a music stand - it would help as it's hard to read from the floor while standing (I couldn't even see the words without my glasses).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:50 am: Edit Post

baltimore fans.
whaddyagonnado??!

:-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rob (Aardvark) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:54 am: Edit Post

True, I guess I have high expectations. By the way if anyone is interested you can have a listen to my group's interpretation of Daed jams at www.star69jams.com/mp3.html and give us some feedback. I have more respect for Jimmy today than ever before.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve (Knewjerzee) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:36 pm: Edit Post

where can i hear last nights show? Saw the SPAC show and last night blew it away. Not sure if it was as good as Albany last fall but it was pretty damn close.

LET ROB SING!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hail Skins (Lastleaffallen) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:45 pm: Edit Post

MUCH LOVE TO YA BER..you know I think you're the bees knees. As far as last night..THAT WAS JUST THE WHISKEY TALKING :-O


I don't think this band sucks at all, had a rippin' good time in Hartford...last night we pulled the rookie move of ragin' too hard before the show. Buddy got sick during the first set, not puking sick, just turn white as a ghost, sweat your balls off and have to sit down sick.

My subjective experience last night was not a good one although through my haze I remember DS second verse being happy and light. Lady->Peg->Terrapin being gentle and sweet. TOO being a slow building raging funky beast. I also remember being real pissed at Bobby for the Rooster placement until they turned it into one of the best jams of the night. My low point was real low..No More Do I killed my buzz almost beyond repair. I love this song, It just really felt wrong to me last night. THANKFULLY I ran into Althea right around this time, her shiny soul and good vibes helped me recover in a big way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:03 pm: Edit Post

skins - :-)

dark star inward explosion
shards of obsidian crackling around you...

Venus on yr shoulder
Ruben's mandolin
Barnyard all upset an shit
storyteller spin
"guess it's time you go" she said
"meet at the jubilee"
dead man's eye reflection
Black Fortune - set it free
You rise, you fall
dear Peggy O
the soldier sailor LOVE
Been Here Before
on a runaway bus
yr best is never enough
deep space that scares you
a heart that won't die
and then they choose THAT way to say
g'night, goodbye
The Attics of My Life
The Dream's Love Book
harmony ASTOUND
fly to me, great sense of grace
Let what is Lost be Found
hear it and taste it - believe it so true
they're singing a psalm
and they're singing
to YOU
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit Post

Venus on yr shoulder .

OH YEAH, AND THEN THERE WAS THE WHOLE VENUS THING!!!

:-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By k8 (Daytripper8) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:23 pm: Edit Post

i would've posted this last night, but from the time i walked off the lawn to the point i sat down & actually tried to post, there were still no words. just a mixture of flashes from each of the beautiful songs i was lucky & privileged enough to hear. and that's what we all are... lucky. there seems to be boat loads of negativity about nearly every part of what the Dead have become. whether it be Joan-bashing or childhood bickering over whom is more talented (bobby or phil) what matters most is that they have survived. i'm not the only one who felt that last night. i'm also not the only one who notices that the buses are all gone. rolling in to these shows are nice (and i mean nice) cars. yeah, a bunch of these belong to kids parents, but a majority are guys who toured w/ the Dead way back, went out and got jobs when Jerry passed, and now are returning to the scene to continue to live within the essence that refuses to die. The look on the older generation's faces when bob seems to hit that one amazing note during "insert song name here" is magical, cherishable even. The point is not to succomb to the music to try and pick out any off moment in the night, it's to appreciate that these guys have something. a something that no matter how many shows we see, we will NEVER see it the same way that they do. now is about the time you will all check and see that i am only 21 years old and i am female. that may cause the standard "you don't know what you're talking about" and i'll take that. i'll take with a wink & a smile. but i know that last night's show took me to a place i've never been before. my body hurt from the chills i got during music. the 2nd set encompassed many of my all-time favorite songs, you know those songs each person holds a special place in their heart for. and everyone's are different. but for me to hear ruben & cherise, dark star, peggy-o, terrapin, and a bangin' sugaree... i was speechless. it's easy to get 25,000 people in one spot and have them talk about something being amazing, but to bring 25,000 strangers into one spot and without speaking a word, eyes cross, glances pass and everyone just gets it. i don't know if it was the clever opening of the 1st set, or the way the 1st & 2nd sets were so different, but yet partners, or the magical flow of the 2nd set, the sweet vocals during almost every song, bobby singing his heart out, phil grinning like a high school kid on his 1st date, the INSANE key jamming during LRR, our drummers roughing us up and causing us to fall into a peak listening experience, jimmy wailing it away like there was no tomorrow, or the sweet sound of a new addition, giving the extra "umph" into so many old favorites, this night was special. and unfortunately this was my last show of the tour. but for all of you continuing on with our friends, remember to stay positive and soak in each and every singe scale & show as if it was your first. fall in love with every song, because in the end, you won't remember when someone played the wrong chord or when maybe the could've jammed a little bit longer. you'll remember when they played so hard, they made you freeze, they gave you chills and put a smile on your face that just wouldn't go away. we get it. we all get it. and that's why we keep going back for more!!!

p.s. i also want to add in this... i was misinformed on how much lawn seats cost at the box office. i came late and did't have time to search for an xtra in the lots. walked up to the window and found i was 8 bucks short. a wonderfully generous man overheard me talking to my friend about it & came up to me and gave me the money for nothing in exchange (as i had nothing to give but a hug & a thank you) so, to that man - thank you for contributing and allowing me to experience an amazing nite of music....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zack (Tomthumb86) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:31 pm: Edit Post

positive vibrations make me happy...sounds like a show for me to check out...thanks for the reviews all...fare thee well....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By scarlet (Fire) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:38 pm: Edit Post

Daytripper ~ that was awesome!! I wasn't there last night, but I felt the chills through your review. Thanks, girl and keep those awesome vibes coming!!!! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richie Nagan (Negman) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:41 pm: Edit Post

Hey Daytripper8:

Regardless of whether you are 21 or 51, you have hit the nail on the head and know what you are talking about. YOU GOT IT!

Peace

Richie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit Post

"but a majority are guys who toured w/ the Dead way back, went out and got jobs when Jerry passed, and now are returning to the scene to continue to live within the essence that refuses to die. "

-LMAO! paul had an extra parking spot roped off yesterday with one of those kiddie porto-potties. it worked. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:01 pm: Edit Post

OH NELLY
scarlet and tim in the hartford rain
but we got a chance to do it again
thanks TIM for the discs
and scarlet for the laughs
we had us a party
MAN IT WAS A GAS

eize great to meet ya
you're the LOST SAILOR
for you and yr slick suit
the woods set 2 was tailored

JERSH good to meet you
and soak up the sun
will you be THERE this weekend?
LOOKING FORWARD TO FUN


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By damon willison (Verve13) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:07 pm: Edit Post

wow daytripper that was defenitly cool. i got chills readin that one too, because you're right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ecryptical (Jersh) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:12 pm: Edit Post

My review was gonna be full of details, but then I read Huck's posts, and its pretty much what she said.

The one thing I will add was the guy playing chess at the urinals in the mens room. That was the topper on the cake.

Lemme just say this... if you sold your ticket for last nights show, you are entitled to make a Major Fucking Mistake. You made one.

Last nights show tickled my booty in places that I didn't even know that I had sensation.

To write more would be a crime, except to thank the zillions of zoners who kicked down some kindness


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:31 pm: Edit Post

I wanna thank the guy that gave daytripper the 8 bucks she need to get ticket..

Musta been one of those guys that stopped touring and got a job.. :-)

BTW..Daytripper..did the person ask you how your like your eggs..??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cambell Sherman (Cambellsledge) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 02:49 pm: Edit Post

Man, the show was mind-bending!!! I am not gonna repeat what most of you had said but you know a band is on when they have 100% of the audience's attention. I was totally focused and laughing at how great they were. Yea, of course there were a few minor flaws but that makes them human!

My highlight of the show was during Sugaree when they messed up the chorus and Bob & Joan weren't sure who was supposed to sing it- they turned quickly and showed Phil on the picture-screen, and he just stared at his bass and just took control of the entire place and started rippin' shit up- Man, I was so psyched when that happened, that little mess up made him play even better and gave the band a path to follow-- Can't wait til Vernon!!! check out moe. too, guaranteed to put a smile on your face!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Butze (Rbutze) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:03 pm: Edit Post

great message daytripper.....I did get those chills... I did get those chills.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wally Londo (Wallylondo) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:05 pm: Edit Post

Not big into reviews..But have to say..

Music,Good people, laughs, insanity, beer, bud,..

All the above with some positive energy into the mix led to a really good time at PNC.

For me its always been the whole sum of the parts that equal a good show..

To those that I met, missed and mumbled drunk to ..Thank you see ya'll Friday.

Thanks to Chris and Robin for being fine hosts..Sorry for the bail out last night..Went home tired and a very happy man..Pit crew again for Friday camp set up guys?..LOL


So to the Siskels and Eberts out there..If you can't hang with friends and friendly strangers and have a good time..Stay home with your dicks in your hand..You will never enjoy yourself at any show.
If you base it only on music.. If you say every Grateful Dead show you went to was a perfect 10 musically..I say you are a liar..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe wheeler (Jerseyjoe) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:34 pm: Edit Post

whew, funtastic evening last nite. that's a show that keeps u coming back for more. stinker to a smoker thats versatility.just glad sucky (i mean bucky) missed it.joan brings down the house .peace!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zen (Zen) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:35 pm: Edit Post

>>>TONIGHT WAS A SOUL TORNADO<<<

nice


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:43 pm: Edit Post

so i guess i should keep the 6/25 show looping on live 365 till tomorrow???

was thinking of putting up tonights Allman Brothers show from Jones Beach....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:48 pm: Edit Post

No No No Rob, I want to listen to 6/25 tonight....haven't gotten to hear it yet. If you must, switch at midnight or something.

Please???

Purty please with sugar on top?

I can't BELIEVE that this is even an option.... One area where technology RULES!

Fuck technology, its taper rob who rules!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fillmore Butts (Silvertonsurfer) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:50 pm: Edit Post

>>So to the Siskels and Eberts out there..If you can't hang with friends and friendly strangers and have a good time..Stay home with your dicks in your hand..You will never enjoy yourself at any show.<<
Gotta love people telling people what to do and what to think after they layed their hard earned money down to see this GD incarnation,and have an opinion on it,be it good or bad.You must be one of those guys who went out and got a job after Jerry died,probably some kind of government job,cuz you sound as closed minded as the government.Looks like the whole thing went right over your head pal,or have you forgotten,"To each his own"???? Nuff said,tired of reading stuff of people telling what others should and shouldn't do,who the hell are ya anyways,god ???????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olo (Olompali4) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:52 pm: Edit Post

The Allmans!!!! Really not in the mood for "Cross to Bear" in the midst of all this reinvention.

Keep with The Dead..and that Winwwood set!


Taper Rob Rules!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 03:54 pm: Edit Post

Born Cross-Eyed->Jam->Dark Star v.1 (w/ horns)->Spacey Jam->Lady with a Fan->Peggy-o->Lady with a Fan->Terrapin Station


CONTINUOS LOOP!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sheila Finkelstein (Sheila) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit Post

Daytripper:

As a 43 year old female, thanks for so accurately describing how I felt last night...Nothing left to do but smile,smile,smile;-)

Sheila


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LazyLightnin' (Supplication) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit Post

TaperRob-

I'll add a couple pretty pleases -

The stream is full if you want it free - Im patiently waiting here at work (restricted to dial up)
Please leave it up as long as you can
Winwood too ! (waitin on that Heaven in Your Mind)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jon Weinstein (Jsw8142) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 04:38 pm: Edit Post

We all just need to relax and listen to the music play.....

I'll go see these guys in any form, at any time. Some nights will be better than others, but when they are on it's pure, unadulterated magic.

Last night (6/25) was my first show seeing the boys (and girl) this tour. The essence has already been captured by others here, but this was a great show FOR ME!! Definitely a keeper which is why I plunked down my 25 beans for the CD on my way out. Kind of my way of saying "Thank You" and "Keep Up the Good Work." (note: I have been a "taper" on and off for the last few years of GD, then Further fests, Ratdog, ABB, Other Ones, PLAF, small clubs bands, etc. For a SBD CD recording, $25 to me is worthwile, for the right show of course, once you factor in the costs of blank DAT's, batteries, my time, editing on the computer, CDR's, etc. etc. Sure, taping is fun, but enjoying the show in the moment and not having to worry about your rig is a lot of fun too!!)

Anyway, I think Joan brings a great new element to the music, and for me, it's all about keeping it fresh, new, and exciting.

But the alternative of watching a post-teen wannabe mega star jump around to the same pre-programmed, lip-synced dance track set is much, much worse.

Why do I go see these guys? Because they are still the best f-in show on earth. Last night had "it" all the way. Attics about brought me to tears well and made me think a lot about Jerry and all the good times we had with him. I think he would have been proud of the show last night.

Next stop - Camden


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hurricane (Garcya) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 04:46 pm: Edit Post

Daytripper.....nicely said young-un ; ), hey Fillmore don't think anyone's trying to tell you how to think, most of us recognize that music is a very subjective thing and what takes someone high may leave someone cold. All I can say is brother there's so much good music out there of so many different genres if catching the boys and then reading folks reviews leaves you bitter or angry, maybe they just don't do it for you anymore, the 'boys were my first true love music wise but have found many others which can take me close to that same plane....I hope you find yours! And if we're speaking of closed minds that's a mighty broad brush you're using in labeling all folks who work for the gov't as closed minded.....speaking as the resident tree hugger in a gov't office full of button down conservatives....

I am the Lorax I speak for the trees!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Page (Mpage64) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:37 pm: Edit Post

How do you find last night's show on Live 365?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:45 pm: Edit Post

Zone radio link in on home page if you need it here..Live 365 to Zone Radio


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Page (Mpage64) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 05:55 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Gr8fuldad!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zack (Tomthumb86) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 06:29 pm: Edit Post

go to channel 2012 on live365


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Murray (Gubym) on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:04 pm: Edit Post

Daytripper, thanks for the post. I drove around smiling all day after I read that. People were looking at me kind of funny. Your words meant alot to me coming from another youngster, 24, but it also got me insanely excited for Camden and Vernon. Not that I needed much else. Goes to show how much this music means to all of us and how it touches us young and old. We are all fortunate the music never stopped.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Santos Halper (Eyesoftheworld3) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:37 am: Edit Post

I had just about decided to stop coming to this area and reading all of the posts because of all of the negitivity everyone was sharing, but it seems like last nights show brought out the positive vibes. I saw VA Beach & Merriweather and had a good time, knowing full well this was a new band that would grow over the summer. Can't wait until Camden and I know Red Rocks is going to be amazing. See you tonight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pete (Zeus) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 01:05 am: Edit Post

Hey folks, I'm so psyched. These guys and gal just keep getting better and better as the tour progresses. Thank you Steve Winwood for enhancing an already incredible run of shows. You added some very nice qualities to the whole run you were a part of. Last night's show was great. I enjoyed Tuesday's show for what it was, and last nights show was even better. Last night was definately one of the best shows of the tour so far. I was sitting behind the taper section and I thought I may have seen some zoners there. I could be wrong. Maybe someone can verify for me. I thought I may have seen Dewit behind the tapers section after winwoods set, and I think Huck may have been there too. I've got to meet up with you at Camden if you are going. Let me know where you will be and I'll stop by and say hello, share some of my personal experiences of the tour thus far and attach some faces to your names. I'd like to stop by and say hello and thanks to taperrob if he's there also, especially for uploading the shows on live365. The vibes at these shows have been fantastic, and really prove the point that there is nothing like a Dead show. There are many zoners I'd like to meet, including Daydream if she is doing any other shows this tour. I might have an extra for Camden tommorrow night if anyone needs one also so let me know. The other thing I wanted to say is reguarding Bob Weir. I used to bash him on occasion. Not hardcore or anything, cause I love the guy when it's all said and done, but I found things about him that I would gripe about. After these 6 shows, I can honestly tell anyone that Bobby has stepped up his game big time. His guitar playing has gotten so much better since the fall, but his voice has improved much more than I ever would have dreamed. Guys and gals, I shit you not. If you haven't seen the Dead this time out, go. If nothing else, just to see and hear how much Bobby's voice has improved. It's scary. He sounds better than he has since the early eighties at least, and I don't ever remeber hearing him this good live in a long time. The cheese is kept to a bare minimum, but it's still there in minute amounts, which is good, cause it wouldn't be Bobby without it. He doesn't scream or yell or howl like he used to last fall or like he did in the eighties. I don't know where his voice is coming from, but it is one of the most amazing things I have ever heard. Bobby has a new found sweetness in his voice that at points, makes it almost sound like Jerry is singing along with him(here is the part where people tell me to lay off the acid, but I haven't done any since Bonnaroo:-) ). These guys are great. Do yourselves a favor and check them out. They are playing for the deadicated. There will always be naysayers, and music is about as subjective as it gets, but if you can't pull any magic from these shows, you should check your pulse and see if you're still breathing. Peace, enjoy the rest of the tour, and I hope to meet you zoners at the next show tommorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Molyneux (Darkstar420) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 02:55 am: Edit Post

>>Attics about brought me to tears and made me think a lot about Jerry and all the good times we had with him

Nicely said John. I started to well up a little during Peggy-o. I started thinking how lucky I am to still be able to enjoy this music and at such a high level. After the show I just kept thinking how happy Jerry is up there looking down and seeing this amazing music going on. Anyways, I could ramble on forever about this show, but words just can`t describe what went on last night! Thank you boys (& girl) for one of the greatest shows! It really meant alot to me!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By g. (Hlpslpfrnk03) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 03:12 am: Edit Post

WOW!!!!! I had to attend some meetings in LA dinners etc... so I wasn't able to hop on last nights chat. I KNEW they were gonna smoke after the stench roamed Jersey on 6/24. When I saw the setlist... I was blown away!!!!!!!! Immediately called my buddy on the east coast and asked how the show was???? He's seen 100 + shows easily dating back to 81.... He said, "man... the second set was so wild... I coulnd't remember what they played!" So I began reading the setlist to him..., "oh yeah that's right... that was great... oh yeah shit... that was great too..." You get the picture....

I guess what I'm saying here is every once in a while we get a bad show... but generally after a one of those seldom shows, they feel bad (cuz it wasn't workin' for them either), and they come back and SLAP us silly!!!!!! ah yes... it's just CLASSIC DEAD!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael (Jckstrw) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 03:59 am: Edit Post

Bob's voice is better than it has been since the 80s?

i dont know about that. i'd say his voice is just about shot, and sounds nothing like it used to. real thin and graspy. he doesnt howl and HA! anymore bc he cant

LOVE bob, but his voice just aint as strong and good as it was


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Wiener (Steve112) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 05:09 pm: Edit Post

i loved the show and i thought Joan added a sexy vibe to the whole thing. I think they will get better througout the tour and cant wait to see them at Jones.A for effort on Bobbys solos.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Countryman (Countryman) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 11:29 pm: Edit Post

This story is still unfolding, and I for one will be very interested to hear how the band sounds on leg 2. I will be listening at home, however; after attending one good show (SPAC) and one very good show (6/25), I'm left to sadly conclude that for me, something just isn't quite happening yet. I couldn't tell you what frankly; there is not a player in this band I do not admire, and there are many I love. I'm rooting for them; I want this succeed. But hearing Phil and Friends the last year or two has been transcendent; this is has been, thus far, only enjoyable.

I know you can't buy spiritual redemption for 42.50, but you can't blame a guy for tryin'. There's something I want to see happening here that's not there yet present on this tour, in my very humble opinion. I hope it shows up; in fact, I'm gambling some very interesting things may develop as the summer goes on. Meanwhile, though, I'll take the comfy chair by the pc -- no more shows until I hear that this band is taking it out bit further to the strastosphere ( or until P and F goes on tour!!).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Countryman (Countryman) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 11:35 pm: Edit Post

For the record, I did have myself a nice time at the show tonight -- a sentimental one for me because it was my first show with my 22 month old daughter -- folks by us on the lawn were all incredibly sweet -- highlight of the show was when Sophia stood in silent attention for the beautiful "Attics" that closed the show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 06:59 pm: Edit Post

K8, right on, you be the next generation of power chickie. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john blues (Buckolsen) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 10:57 pm: Edit Post

just have to ad the show was totally wild. day tripper keep up the good work!!! as for al negative wave people what the fuck!! have you found anything better going on?? i haven't. every show i go to is fucking awesome and you know why??? because its happening. not to bring down everyone i no dead heads are pretty critical people. but i heard a long time oago that they are the only ones that do what they do and its true. i love this shit and all that comes along w/ it peace everyone and be safe see soon---michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark (Mtnguy) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:50 am: Edit Post

ahh...the cool mtn winds out here blow all those troubles away.....!
Voluntary Simplicity!
Peace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By k8 (Daytripper8) on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:15 pm: Edit Post

can someone let me in on where i can a copy of this show? either post or e-mail me directly? & thanx for the oodles of positive feedback all ...nfa...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By greg (Gregschmegg) on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:25 pm: Edit Post

if anyone has an extra copy to kick down i will privately vine it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A-Me (Moonruby) on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:11 am: Edit Post

i JUST got my pics from this show developed....i got some pretty good ones, I was front row jimmys side and a few back on the other side later.

my goodness what a grate time i had that night!!
if i had a scanner i'd put some up....i'll work on that one.