I don't know about you but I don't know how he can top the Glens Falls show w/ Trey, what possible suprises can come ?????

Rumor has it that Barnie may be at this one :o)

don't laugh,saw Barney come out at Nassau on 4/1/93 04/01/93 (Thu) Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY

Set 1: Jack Straw, They Love Each Other, Minglewood Blues, Candyman, Desolation Row, Stagger Lee, Eternity, Liberty

Set 2: Iko Iko*, Saint Of Circumstance, Crazy Fingers > Wave To The Wind > Drums > Space > Way To Go Home, Days Between > Lovelight, E: The Rain Song

Comment: *Barney the dinosaur feigning bass while Phil plays behind the rack

perhaps an acoustic set reminiscent of one of the halloween shows jerry acoustic band played at the lunt fontane in '87

10/31/87 (Sat) Lunt-Fontanne Theater - New York City, NY
Set 1: Acoustic: Been All Around This World, I'm Troubled, Short Life Of Trouble, Blue Yodel No. 9 (Standing On The Corner), Spike Driver Blues, Trouble In Mind, The Girl At The Crossroads Bar, Bright Morning Stars, Ripple, Goodnight Irene

10/31/87 (Sat) Lunt-Fontanne Theater - New York City, NY
Set 1: Acoustic: Swing Low Sweet Chariot*, Deep Elem Blues, Blue Yodel No. 9 (Standing On The Corner), Ballad Of Casey Jones, Two Soldiers, Diamond Joe, Gone Home, Oh Babe It Ain't No Lie, If I Lose, I'm Ragged But I'm Right

Encore at that April Fool's show is the Beatle's Rain, not the Rain Song.

I was at the show, and remember before the show it was a decent night, weather wise. Then the show was lots of fun, gotta love the Barney cameo. Then for the encore, we get Rain, for only the second or third time played. And, as we all happily file out of the beautiful Nassau Colliseum, what is happening but huge torrential downpours, buckets and buckets of rain. So I view that encore as another April Fool's Joke.

An interesting drive home to CT to say the least, and given, the, ahem, electricity in the air, I bet it was a crazy ride home for many east coast heads too.


Happy trails...

Werewolves of London

It's NYC? Who will the real guests be?
Warren is out of town unfortunately...

anyone know if Trey can make these shows under the conditions of his drug treatment/probation deal?

Don't know what the politics among the musicians of this are but the Black Crowes are playing in NYC on Halloween and Philly on the 2nd but don't have a gig booked at the moment on the 1st.
Also Fogerty is playing the first gig of his fall tour at Hammerstein in NY on the 2nd -- and he was there at the beginning, Also played with the Dead at Bill Graham's memorial in San Francisco.

I'm just curious to see if Phil turns the Nokias into his version of Radio City 1980 3 setters ;-)

Don't forget about Sting right down 7th Ave. at MSG. He opened for the Dead for a whole tour.. I'll be really surprised if there's any special guest on Halloween. My guess is Phil wants to showcase what this band does best with maybe a "Werewolves" encore and that could be worth the price of admission!

>>>I'll be really surprised if there's any special guest on Halloween. <<<<

That's why I'm going on the 1st and the 11th ....

and of course on Halloween also.

Ryan Adams is in town that night...

OK, nevermind.

zappa plays zappa- a nyc halloween tradition...9 other phil shows..see'ya on the 1st

i'd love to hear Phil do a take on Neil Young's "Vampire Blues"!

Ron Wood has a book signing at Barnes and Noble Union Square Halloween nite..... Who knows???

Seriously, though there are a helluava lot of musicians in New York next week... just heard about Sam Bush/ Jerr-ee Douglas/ Edgar Meyer at Carnegie hall

Joan Osborne lives in Brooklyn

Really wish I could be there.....But then there's Splintered Sunlight on South st here in Philly for free....

For a matter of fact...I was at this JGB classic.....
perhaps an acoustic set reminiscent of one of the halloween shows jerry acoustic band played at the lunt fontane in '87

10/31/87 (Sat) Lunt-Fontanne Theater - New York City, NY
Set 1: Acoustic: Been All Around This World, I'm Troubled, Short Life Of Trouble, Blue Yodel No. 9 (Standing On The Corner), Spike Driver Blues, Trouble In Mind, The Girl At The Crossroads Bar, Bright Morning Stars, Ripple, Goodnight Irene

10/31/87 (Sat) Lunt-Fontanne Theater - New York City, NY
Set 1: Acoustic: Swing Low Sweet Chariot*, Deep Elem Blues, Blue Yodel No. 9 (Standing On The Corner), Ballad Of Casey Jones, Two Soldiers, Diamond Joe, Gone Home, Oh Babe It Ain't No Lie, If I Lose, I'm Ragged But I'm Right


YIKES..was that REALLY 20 frickin years ago......jeezsus another fuckin grey hair

If you guys are lucky. Larry will get Levon Helm to bring his kit over for a sit in.

Do think Larry will bring Phil to tonights ramble?

how bout a musical costume or something?

Any seats.......... anywhere in the Nokia ? Upstairs maybe ? Anybody been ?

hows the smokin situation in the nokia? anyoe know?

got my costume ready for tomorrow

bruce - there is a section of seats above the general admission standing area. pretty good vantage point.

Hey, this is Jon, some of you may remember me from the BBQ in July, i was a builder on day 3. I live in in nyc and i was actually at the Nokia a couple of weeks ago for another show. It is right in the heart of times square. It's a really nice venue. The capacity is about 2,200. There is a GA floor area (standing), then you walk up 4 steps and there is a smaller section, also standing, where the soundboard is, and then above that there is a GA seating section.

There are tons a of bars all over NYC, but to be honest the venue is real nice and there are 3 or 4 bars inside. I was drinking beers last time i was there, and Budwesier's were 6$ a beer (which actually isn't so bad compared to other bars in nyc)

So far from my experience at Nokia, the security is pretty relaxed and they will let you smoke....

Can't wait for tonight.....i'm thinking we are getting a big dark star sandwhich in the second half. See all you zoners there tonight. I'm gonna call the nokia box office later and try to get some set times....

thanks for the 411, jon. i think nokia has a strict midnight curfew, so wouldnt be surprised if the sets played out like this:

set 1: 815-915/930

set 2: 10-midnight

Hey guys,steve you were pretty much on the money, i thought they had a curfew as well but apparantly they don't.... i just spoke to somebody from the Nokia theatre box office, and according to him, the set times for tonight are as follows:

set 1 starts at 8:30
set 2 starts at 10:00

he said the show goes until about midnight, and that nokia theatre hs no curfew.

let's get ready to rock N roll!!!!!!

All - The security at Nokia is very stict. I've been there 4 times and seen people get thrown out for smoking each time I've gone. There is security that works above the crowd on the sides and then calls through walkie-talkies to other security that come to escort anyone they see smoking. They shine powerful flashlights on the person smoking until the other security comes. Beware. They won't give a warning; they just escort you out.

Thats very interesting, that is the classic asshole security guards move.....

My good friends saw Common there about a month ago and they said everybody was smoking inside...so i guess just be careful everybody...

>>he said the show goes until about midnight, and that nokia theatre hs no curfew. <<
The issue isn't really isn't a curfew of the theater, it's that in most venues in NYC after a certain time the local crews start to get paid overtime -- union regulations.

As for smoking, Nokia has a smoking area they let you go into outside of the actual venue if you start jonesing for nicotine, it's not one of those places with the asinine all exits are final rule -- at least it was like that the time I was there.

Perhaps I should break out my Pimp costume with giant "hide from the flashlights brim" you know

Operation: stealthy budda

hopein to may hear maybe :
1st set( New York New York>Shakedown Street>franklins tower,pride of Cucamonga,Sugar Magnolia>Scarlet Begonias>
Fire on the Mountain,)

2nd set( Cosmic Charlie>Loose Lucy>Sugaree>Uncle John's Band ,Candyman>wolfman's brother>warewolves of london,The Wheel
>Eyes of the World>Terrapin)

E"the monster mash">cats out under the stars)

LOL--we'll see what happens--- anyway its gonna be fun

id take that set list anyday. Wolfmans without trey would be great as well, and then into warewolves...that would be sick.

saw dark star in noakia- the smoking ability in the standing ga is tough have ppl walking around with flashlights- in the seats lil better- allow you to go smoke during set breaks though

WELL....did they hit the stage yet????

it's actually werewolves of london and cats down under the stars.

No curfew at the Nokia

Setlist so far is:

Shakedown >
Loose Lucy
? Jackie Tune
Candyman

Any setlist updates?

Anyone know if there will be streaming for ANY of the Nokia shows????

heard the sad news today that there's not going to be a new year's show...

Dylan rumor for tomorrow night. A buddy of mine worked his recent tour, and apparently he's in NYC for at least 11/1.

Ghost

spectre

put a spell on you and ghost 1st set!! gonna be a THRILLER 2nd

Ghost? The phish tune?

story of the

From Ratdog.org

Shakedown Street>
Loose Lucy
Jackie Tune
Candyman
Put A Spell On You>
Jam>
Story Of A Ghost>
Casey Jones

End Set 1

Phil Reads
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider>
Caution

Can anyone complete the setlist?

Set 2:

Phil Reads.??..
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider
Caution
VooDooChild
Cryptical
New Speedway
Sympathy For The Devil
Rider

Donor Rap

E: Werewolves

End of Show

Not Ohficial - Thanks Row.J

From Other Stuff:

Set 2:

Phil Reads.??..
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider
Caution
VooDooChild
Cryptical
New Speedway
Sympathy For The Devil
Rider

Donor Rap

E: Werewolves

End of Show

Not Official - Thanks Row.J

Great minds think alike, GDad :-)

From Chat

9:02 PM [G.SunRatdowg]
Set 2: Phil Reads.??..
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider>
Caution,
VooDooChild,
Cryptical>
NewSpeedway>
Sympathy For The Devil>
Rider
- End of Set
Donor Rap..
E: Werewolves

from ratdog.org

BOBBY AND PHILL HAD THE SAME ENCORE TONIGHT

SICKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

liquidgoggles wrote:
Shakedown Street>
Loose Lucy
Jackie Tune
Candyman
Put A Spell On You>
Jam>
Story Of A Ghost>
Casey Jones

End Set 1

Phil Reads
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider>
Caution
Voodoo Chil
Cryptical>
New Speedway>
Sympathy For The Devil>
Jam>
I Know You Rider
Donor Rap

encore:
werewolves of london

sick

Just back from the show, too tired to review but there was a Fire in the second set.

Right Vthead lookin at text from show diff to decipher its in shorthand..

Phil Reads
Jam>
Cryptical>
Jam>
Phil sings Boris The Spider>
Caution
Voodoo Child
** Other One or Cryptical again or both>
New Speedway (might be Jam not song)>
** Fire On The Mtn
Sympathy For The Devil>
Jam>
I Know You Rider
Donor Rap

encore:
werewolves of london

** Revisions

Set 2:
Phil reads >
Cryptical >
Boris the Spider >
Jam >
Caution >
Voodoo Child!>
The Other One >
Cryptical >
New Speedway Boogie >
Fire On the Mountain >
Sympathy for the Devil >
I Know You Rider

Donor Rap / Band Intro

Werewolves of London

what time did it end?

I thought Caution was Gypsy Women??

Set 1

Shakedown>
Loose Lucy>
Gingerman>
Candyman>
I Put A Spell on You>
Jam>
Story of the Ghost (Phish)>
Casey Jones

Set II

Phil Reads
Jam>
Cryptical>
Boris the Spider>
Gypsy Woman (Caution?)>
Voodoo Child>
Other One>
Cryptical>
New Speedway>
Fire on the Mtn
Sympathy for the Devil>
I Know You Rider

E: Werewolves on London

wut did phil read?

First set Jack song; Cold Black Devil

Good show, not great. First set was a killer. Highlights were the Shakedown > Lucy, Candyman, Ghost and Casey Jones.

Second set had its ups and downs, the highlights being Cryptical, Caution, Other One, New Speedway and Rider. The novelty Halloween tunes were kind of flat. Phil lost the crowd with Boris, and Sympathy was a but meh, but the band was on fire and the rest of the run should be great.

Crowd was ok, though there was a lot of arguing and negativity going on where I was standing, up by the front of the stage. Hopefully the vibes will settle down over coming days. 7/10

I thought tonight was sick Ghost was weird but all in all my fav of the tour so far

He sang the refrain of I'm a Voodoo Child, but the words in the song were different then the Hendrix version. So...

it wuz probally voodoo chile slight return??

Hmm... Six new tunes. Caution > Voodoo Child (sleight return) > TOO energetic and explosive. How can one b dissapointed with Boris the Spider & I put a Spell On You... + Werewolves (O:

I AM ALMOST SPEECHLESS. MAN....WHAT A NIGHT!

OK....got back from show and gots to say.......This show SUCKED. IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST P%F SHOWS I HAVE EVER SEEN. SIMPLY PUT.......IT WAS PATHETIC! A SLEEPER OF A NIGHTMARE. AM SO PISSED OFF WITH THE EFFORT OF THE BAND. I REPEAT THAT THIS IS THE WORST PHIL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN! IT SUCKED DONKEY BALLS!

OK...mixed reviews coming in....let's hear the nuts and bolts of it all....someone lay it down for us please....

hmmmm, so was Ghost played well or just there for the novelty factor?

I can recall PLF playing a Phish tune without a Phish member.

Okieboy I am scratching my head here. Energy level from band was weak. After a 10 day plus break you would figure the band would come out ripping. They did not. Sound was not very good in set one but got better in set 2 and I was moving around from rail to rear and side to side. Best spot for sound was in the back of SB. The venue was great. Many vendors selling everything from coffee to beer and the rest (Place must of had 3 or 4 bar areas). Never had to wait on a line for more than 5 minutes.

I had heard shows streamed from archive from this tour and they were good with great moments. I was so looking forward to a "hot show" but unfortunately the only thing burning was the pissed off Phans( I was not the only one scratching my head here).I guess I can chalk up the "drama" to being an off night for the band. I will be going to more shows at nokia. I will never lose faith in Phil!

OH yes almost forgot.....Jackie was OK instrumentally but very good vocally. I like this kid. Larry was OK but lacked conviction through out. Key boards were kind of....weak. Molo and Phil were very good. Unfortunately on this night the sum of the parts did not add up to the whole.

<I AM ALMOST SPEECHLESS. MAN....WHAT A NIGHT!

OK....got back from show and gots to say.......This show SUCKED. IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST P%F SHOWS I HAVE EVER SEEN. SIMPLY PUT.......IT WAS PATHETIC! A SLEEPER OF A NIGHTMARE. AM SO PISSED OFF WITH THE EFFORT OF THE BAND. I REPEAT THAT THIS IS THE WORST PHIL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN! IT SUCKED DONKEY BALLS!>

Dude,
That's kind of disappointing, there must've been some bright spots, somewhere in the music? The set list doesn't look so bad on paper. Would you have preferred to have been out in Westbury last night? KK, what did you do with that extra ticket, miracled someone?
H2

Actually I should have said the "whole" did not add up to the sum of its parts. Or did it?

Actually I should have said the "whole" did not add up to the sum of its parts. Or did it?

Did we see the same show?
I am just pleasantly pleasant this morning.
Nokia theater decided to give the security the night off(figuratively), and it was a huge party in Midtown last night!
Phil last night was so much fun and he did some awesome Halloween themed covers and just participated in general weirdness. He did GHOST w/ Molitz on vocals! My brother turned to me about 5 minutes before and remarked that it sounded like "Sand"- close, but even better! I was shocked.
Highlights included an incendiary Caution, a stunning I put a Spell on You, and Phil singing Borris the Spider. Th energy was not lost at all. How could hearing Phil sing" creepy crawly, crrepy crawly" zap the enregy? My older brother, who doesn’t see too many shows anymore is who aside from a big deadhead, loves Phish and the Who. He was pleasantly surprised. Jackie Green really impressed me, both with his singing and guitar/piano playing. The band was having so much fun, especially with all the covers. I have to say the show far exceeded my expectations. Loose Lucy w/ Jackie vocals was excellent, and the Cryptical was really fiery and played to perfection. I may have to see more than the 3 shows I had planned. I know this review is a bit more scattered than it should be, but my brain is not all here this morning. Good thing I don't teach until 4th period!

Love will see us through!
Dont bring false hopes and expectations. Keep an open mind, and enjoy the scene.
Relax, bring the love, and it will all work out.
Band just needs to settle in to this new venue, and all the distractions of NYC.
They will get comfortable in this New(York) Philzone!

Larry got the extra and I think he enjoyed the show much more than I.

Hmmmm, did we go to the same show??????
You should probably sell your tix for the other shows, and not put yourself through he pain & suffering. I was on Phil's side approx 10- 20 rows from the stage, and thought they sounded well rested. The band was powerful, creative & tight. The crowd was loving every minute.

I almost blew the show off last night. My own bad attitude had me leaning towards eating my ticket (nothing to do with Phil or the band - just life getting me down and almost getting the best of me.)

But I had a 9th inning rally and headed into the city, despite the lameness of my inner teenager earlier in the day.

1st set - fun - got me groovin' - nothing amazingly special, but I thought the songs were solidly played.

2nd set - blew my mind!...what did Phil read? Reminded me of his readings of the Raven many years ago, but I couldn't make out the words last night...anyone know? Balloons slowly floating - Phil reading - heads in costume - psychedelia in the house...> Cryptical > Boris > Caution....wOw!! And the rest of the set was more of the same - hard driving tunes cranked out by a hard driving band. Other One > Cryptical...Yeay! Fire was like greeting a long loved friend in the crowd. Sympathy for the Devil? Not a cover I’d ever have expected to see, but in my mind, it worked just fine...the crowd “woooo wooooo” ing - energy flying...Phils bass thumping...these are the moments I live for, truth be told.

Sound was OK - not great - not bad - hopefully it will get better as the team dials into the venue over time.

In short - I’m so glad I went! YMMV, but I was pleasantly surprised by last night’s gig.

I look at it like this...Phil now plays in a cover band that plays a few Dead tunes. He was barely present except for Other One, Fire and some other moments. The show was rather weak energy wise. I plan on selling my tickets to the other nights.

I was surprised at how lackluster the show was.

Scott,

Why not give them another shot. It was the first night after a ten day break and the first night of a long run. I've always found that going to the first night of a run was usually not the best show of a run by a longshot. Everybody's in town, doesn't have to travel and I'm sure will be more refreshed then they were last night. I'd say give them another chance. I was at the camden show and while it was not perfect, it was ALOT of fun and when they hit the zone, they were on fire.

If you r not enjoying yourself, then sell your tix.

i hate the harshness...you must have heard something good, a jam, or a moment you smiled and loved leshness again...or at least something cool in the best downtown ever? talked to a hot girl in costume or had a good beer...

i try to always come away with something sweet, maybe it was you at least a little...?

What time did the band hit the stage last night and what time did the show end?

Just trying to figure out train schedule....

I gotta agree with the previous poster, the show had some cool moments, but overall was pretty lackluster, nothing stellar. It didnt compare at all to the 2005/2006 fall/winter shows....I dont know if it was the lineup, or the fact that it was the first night in a venue, but there was something missing.

I might give it another shot, but it is doubtful. The problem is the band lineup. While they are all good musicians separately, they just don't seem to work well together. I do not need to see Jackie Greene sing every song. Yes, the kid is talented, but I do not like how they are playing some of these songs. It is the Jackie Greene show with special guest Phil Lesh. Greene even called out the band members for them to solo...

This is just my review, I am sure others thing differently. I went to the second SOBs show and while it was fun I realized that these bands are just not that great. I gave it another shot last night and well, I just don't see me wasting my time and money anymore on these shows.

The energy was just not there...

Overall an okay show. The first set was mostly flat. Highlights were Jackie's vocals in Candyman and the Ghost.

Second set was much improved except for the Rider which I thought was also flat. Even the Werewolves, which was a lot of fun to see, didn't really take off.

I had fun though, as I usually do, and am looking forward to tonight.

"What time did the band hit the stage last night and what time did the show end?

Just trying to figure out train schedule...."

The band started shortly before 8:30, I left midway through the second set to go to a party so I dont know what time the show was over.

There will be a line a block long to get into the the Nokia. They let people in as groups of 10-20 or so, but if you hang near the front of the line you can "sneak" in when they let one of these groups in.

Getting there early is probably essential to staking out a good spot, by the time the show started all the seats were full, and you couldnt get near the stage either.

Good luck. I have a ticket for tonight but after last night will probably pass on tonights show.

Dylan apparently is playing with Lesh tonight. This is a pretty solid rumor from a usually reliable source with the band.

Notice that there were no Dylan tunes last night, which further leads me to believe that Dylan will join Phil tonight.

As expected, opening night was a letdown which means a monster tight one tonight.

"As expected, opening night was a letdown which means a monster tight one tonight."

I dunno. Its not like its the first night of a tour, and they need to gel some more. I remember the hammerstein and Atlantic City shows were pretty hot on their first nights, and that was after the band had done a number of shows. I just dont think the musicianship is there to take these shows to places that they have gone to in the past. Im not saying they arent good musicians, (I am now a Jackie Greene fan), but the music really cant get to places it has in the past with these guys.

And as far Dylan goes, not that it really changes my mind that much (getting to the nokia for me is about two hours plus travel time including a train ride into manhattan), can that rumor be backed up elsewhere? Is he in town this week?

>>Dylan apparently is playing with Lesh tonight. This is a pretty solid rumor from a usually reliable source with the band.

Notice that there were no Dylan tunes last night, which further leads me to believe that Dylan will join Phil tonight.

As expected, opening night was a letdown which means a monster tight one tonight.<<

Yes, Bob is off tour, but I doubt he'd fly to NY to sit in with Phil, unless he is in town recording...which he was the last time Phil was in town and never showed up.

Grain of salt people

>>>Why not give them another shot.

It was the first night after a ten day break and the first night of a long run.

While opinions on arts are all subjective, and mellows can be harshed, dude...

These musicians are getting paid tens of thousands a night to play music for a living, just like you get paid for your employment.

That is just fucking lame; and they have been in New York rehearsing, so it's more lame.

You obviously can have off nights, but there is generally no excuse for it at this professional level. ALL shows should be great. Karma should bring in the magic to some of them for the "off the chart show".

I have to disagree with every post so far. I thought the show was Rockin'!!!!!!!!!

I hope Skeptical is reading this thread because he should be gratified. We are certainly not in "Greatest show ever" territory anymore. As a matter or fact we are back on familiar "if their names are not Jerry,Warren,Trey,Barry or Steve" ground, there is always just something missing. I have a suggestion. If you do catch one of these shows, get up as close as you can and groove on these guys energy. Because, as all of us saw all over the country, they are having a blast. From having seen every incarnation of PNF since the Trey Warfield shows I can tell you that the further back you are, more people than ever are at shows for socializing and "the scene" than the music. And if you're up front and having a bad time, I guess just split, and chalk it up to a good try. When we can't see this anymore, this site will be filled with people wishing for just one more "lackluster" night from one of their favorite musicians. Enjoy the love and joy these guys bring because IT IS REAL, and there for you to grab!

Show started at 8:17; no line going in at 7:15; while most closer seats were taken up by 7:30, there was tons of room on both floors. Even at 8 o'clock you could get a great spot.

Show started at 8:17; no line going in at 7:15; while most closer seats were taken up by 7:30, there was tons of room on both floors. Even at 8 o'clock you could get a great spot.

I live in NYC and operate under the premise that nothing starts before 9pm. Last night was the first time I ever got burned by that premise. I think I got into the Nokia around 9:30 and I missed the ENTIRE 1st set! Wanted to kick myself. 2nd set was ok, nothing jaw-dropping, but fun.

My only complaint was the crowd. I went to get beers at one point, and on my way through the crowd (and on my way back) people--and not just 1 or 2 people, but LOTS of people--didn't want to let me through. One guy was even shoving me at one point. I had to laugh at that one. I was like, "Is it me??" But I don't think it was. I wasn't wasted, I wasn't stumbling, and I was saying "pardon me" "excuse me" just like Mom taught me ;) Ah well, you win some, you lose some...

Okay, I didn't go, but was bumming when I checked out the setlist late last night. Then I wake up and read this? Shakedown, Put A Spell On You, Sympathy For The Devil--those are monsters! What I wouldn't do to hear those.

Nobody seems to be mentioning Molitz. Steve Molitz is a genius. Hasn't anyone heard his work with Particle? And the stuff on the streams, he sounds amazing! Maybe it was the mix in the venue--not tweaked yet--but other acts I've seen there have sounded great from the floor.

No offense, folks, but can we hear from some veterans...

Mark Mark, I too got burned one time back in the day. We were at McCann's across from MSG in '79 having a few before the show. Up until then, if my hazy memory serves me right, shows had started at 8pm. Well, we didn't even look at our tickets, just assuming all is good at 7:45. We start walking over, get in the Garden, and hear music. We fly up the non-working escalators and are screaming "they're playing Dire Wolf". Needless to say, we always paid attention after that! Glad to hear all those who had fun time.

ok....here is my take on last night. It was my second show of the tour and the first being the glens falls show w/ trey. With that being said, this show was the complete opposite of that night.

The first set was basically a jackie greene sings the dead. Which to my surprise was actually really great. MAN THAT KID CAN SING!!! Its nice to hear someone who has a wonderful voice sing these tunes. The band was pretty tight, no crazy improvisational journeys, even though i could see a couple of times phil looking at larry communicating, come on man...push it. But to be honest, Larry really could not take it anywhere.

Overall good first set though, mainly becasue of jackies singing, and phils bass lines. The shakedown was cool, very bluesy, good jam, decent energy, especially from jackie....who did I mention CAN SING....This band overall, well on holloween anyhow was very bluesy. The ghost, which was a surprise to me, really went no where, even though phil tried to take it on a journey. The I Put A Spell On You was great for the wow factor, and the fact that jackie riped it on the vocals.

2nd set
after some holloween antics....2nd set started with cryptical...which was nice. This set was fun becasue of the covers, and they tried to really jam out. They hit some nice points improvisationally with Larry taking some nice solos (especially during fire) and even jackie ripping some nice solos.....basically 80% blues jams. And i have to admit i thought molitz did a fine job throughout the night on the keys, he added some cool unique synth/piano stuff. Molo was on key pretty much throughout the night as well.

Overall good show i would not say "the worst". There really was not any major great improvised jams to speak of, except you could tell phil was pushing it. What lacked in improvised magic was made up for with great vocals, from Jackie.

But if you went in with high expectations of a psychedelic journey, you went home dissapointed. IMO.

I personally went in with an open mind and came out, well confused. To sum it up for me, I love soulful singing and improvised psychedelic madness. I got the singing, and i had a lot of fun!!

Thank you Darkstar for a nice balanced review. And yeah, that Jackie Greene just brings it, doesn't he?! What a fresh and fun dude to watch play. That's why I'm flying from Colorado next week. He just smoked it at Red Rocks as many people wrote.

As for psychedlic journeys, even the Q was challeged to go there - after all Warren took a long time getting out of the blues lines he had been playing for years before. And I LOVE Warren, that being said. Jerry,Kimock and Trey (when he's not noodling) seem to have been the only guitarists who have it in their bones IMO. So, yeah, these guys will never get us THERE, but so few have.

Hey Georgie1...veterans? what a dumb comment. are you just looking for a glowing review just for the hell of it?

the show was not good.

...from a veteran, no offense

>>>But if you went in with high expectations of a psychedelic journey, you went home dissapointed. IMO.

Anyone who has been paying even the least amount of attention to this line up would NOT be expecting a psychedelic show. I wasn't expecting one in Glens Falls; I only got it because Trey was there.

It's been stated time and time again here this band is more rock and roll, and rhythm and blues, than psychedelic.

>>>ALL shows should be great.

i really dont think you understand or grasp the concept of "improvisitional music" and a groups ability to be firing on all cylinders one night and then fall flat on their face the next (or during the same set for that matter).

isnt that the reason we all love the dead? maybe we were spoiled by their consistent ability to produce the equivalent of musical alchemy, but going into any show expecting, nay, demanding it be great, is unrealistic and unfair for a band thats been together for a month.

Thank you Robin!

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i thought the 3/4 of the show i ended up staying for was fine. the song mix was different than i usually would see but the songs were fine. this is a band that sounds a little different than the past incarnations.

different is not bad.

i saw lots of people dancing around and shaking their booty last night. nobody i was with or talking to seemed to be not enjoying the show

I have a lot of thoughts about the show last night- some good, some bad- and this is as good a place as any to air them out, so here goes...

Overall the show was a great time. The music was tight and fun, and the vibe was great up until the second set. The crowd last night was my biggest complaint. I have been to plenty of shows- even here in NYC- where people are chilled, grooving to the jams and respecting other peoples space/trip. But... it seemed that did not happen last night- at least not where I was standing, in front of Jackie about 4 or 5 "rows" back. There were several heated arguments, some that involved shoving and that kind of drunken bullshit. Several people came barging in during the second set, including a parade of people in amazingly weird furry costumes, who then proceeded to stand in people's dancing space and talk loudly for the duration of the show. I dance pretty intensely during shows. When people come and jump in front of you and then complain to you about your dancing, it's more than a little ironic and frustrating. Also, people had NO respect for the venue or their neighbors when it came to their garbage. There were geological layers of cans, cups and sticky wet ooze everywhere. Nobody seemed to have any respect for the fact that a) people had to stand and sit in this crap and b) some poor crew had to clean up after everyone left. I know it's a rock and roll show, but I have seen far more respectful behavior at a kids birthday party than I saw last night. I'm not trying to sound like a cop or someone's parent here, but I was really let down by the negativity. I don't know how widespread it was, but it was pretty gnarly in the area in front of Phil and Jackie.

I thought the music was amazing at times, overall pretty good. Phil had some SPECTACULAR moments, and, while he's not really my cup of tea, Greene brought it in ways I didn't think he could. If you are a fan of the spacier side of things (which I am) you can't help but wonder what a different guitar player would bring to this line up. I'm not complaining or coming down on Phil and his Friends at all, just voicing a preference. I'm very much looking forward to the remaining 5 shows I get to see here in my home town. I think last night was more of a *party* show, and we will get down to some weirdness in the nights to come. Caution was a revelation, and Shakedown, Candyman and Fire all had some amazing moments. Wasn't crazy about some of the covers (Phil was shaky on Boris and seemed to loose the crowd for a bit) but Spell and Ghost were wonderful (and I'm not even a Phish fan!). Phil's reading at the beginning of the second set sounded vaguely like something from Edgar Allan Poe. He was definitely channeling the spirit of Kesey and Cassidy, but that's only natural. Halloween is the most Pranksterish of all holidays!

All in all, I'd give it 3.5 out of 5. A fun time marred by some inconsiderate hoopleheads. Here's hoping people remember their neighbors on the nights to come. Peace!

>>>>>maybe we were spoiled by their consistent ability to produce the equivalent of musical alchemy,

It was 1 out of 3 at best.

Please Music Gods....no Chris Robinson tonight!!!!!!! He was in NYC at the Bowery I believe.

ps I need a ride home to Rockland County, if anyone is going that way. Will definately contribute.

...speaking of the blues, I want to see Morning Dew on either Nov. 5 or 6, please Phil and Thank You!

Well, it looks to me like molitz's side of the stage was where it was at. There was a great vibe there. All my neighbors were friendly to say the least. There was one drunk guy that came by bumping into people as he danced, but all in all he just opened up a nice little area for a bunch of us to get down.

I LOVED BORIS! I guess a lot of the crowd got lost on that one and someone even asked me "WHO's" song that was (no pun intended..hehe), but I loved it. It was very Halloween.

Phil really knows how to make light of a heavy situation and he kept doing it last night. In the real dark and heavy jams his playing was making me feel like skipping. Thank you, PHIL!

As for channeling Kesey, YES! 2 people around me told me how excited they are for their birthday shows...11/10 and 11/9. That brought up Kesey's name!

Oh and has anyone mentioned the encore at the ratdog show?

WOW! Bring it on, PHIL!

Hopefully some of the "crowd issues" were Halloween driven.
Maybe older peeps--like me--stayed away from the craziness, plus I always skip the 1st night of a long run.
tonight is my first of 6 shows..goin with my wife..so we'll be sittin' upstairs. I'll be on the floor on Saturday with my daughter.

Sam L.

I would stack last night's 2nd set up against Glens Falls.............a MONSTER imho. CAUTION!!! THE OTHER ONE!!!

And I like Jackie's new white Gibson SG guitar.

Overall had a great time. Needs a lot more volume in there. Crowd was a bit stiff, especially considering it was Halloween. Themed covers were a lot of fun. Shakedown, lucy was smokin'. Absolutely horrible Fire. But still a great time.

i have been paying attention, but you dont beleive something untill you see it, and this was the first phil show i have ever been to where it was more about the singing then the improvising.

But I wrote the response just to let the people who dont spend alot of time on the philzone know what there in for. Which is basically a dead blues band with a great bass player, a very talented/unique keyboard guy, an amazing young singer, and a talented group around them.

Sorry if i made you mad, Robin. I was just giving my honest review of the show. Right, wrong or whatever its all in the ear of the beholder.

I can like hear the tone in these responses sometimes, especially here on this site. Everybody needs to take it easy. Its just music. But if you want to argue and come at me basically saying, "duh we all knew it was not going to be a psychedelic journey" then thats fine. But i just wrote what i thought was an honest review of the show, IN MY HEART AND MY MIND.

i thought the "phil reads" segment at the beginning of the second set was from the beginning of thriller...can anyone confirm that?

I think he was reading from the Tell Tale Heart, by Edgar Allan Poe? That's what I gathered from the bits I could make out. VERY cool either way... wish he could have had Ken Nordine doing his dark word jazz during the show!

I wasn't mad at you, ds1989. But, I remain astonished that, after reading the many reviews on this site, that people still are surprised by what they're getting, that it's not psychedelic, that it's nothing like the Q, etc. Seems a lot of people are pissing and moaning without having done any homework, first.

Having not heard this lineup before last night, the thing that kept popping into my head was that David Hidalgo would kill with these guys. Sounds like JGe has listened to more that a little bit of Lobos in his day (how about a coupla LL covers?). If you're into the deep exploratory stuff, this ain't gonna be your band. If you dig r&b psych-tinged jamming and are able to get your jollies from watching Phil and Molo connect (I sure am), come on down. I'm psyched for the rest of this run.

He was reading from Poe's Pit & the Pendulum.

Intoashes wrote: The crowd last night was my biggest complaint. I have been to plenty of shows- even here in NYC- where people are chilled, grooving to the jams and respecting other peoples space/trip. But... it seemed that did not happen last night- at least not where I was standing, in front of Jackie about 4 or 5 "rows" back. There were several heated arguments, some that involved shoving and that kind of drunken bullshit. Several people came barging in during the second set, including a parade of people in amazingly weird furry costumes, who then proceeded to stand in people's dancing space and talk loudly for the duration of the show. I dance pretty intensely during shows. When people come and jump in front of you and then complain to you about your dancing, it's more than a little ironic and frustrating. Also, people had NO respect for the venue or their neighbors when it came to their garbage. There were geological layers of cans, cups and sticky wet ooze everywhere. Nobody seemed to have any respect for the fact that a) people had to stand and sit in this crap and b) some poor crew had to clean up after everyone left. I know it's a rock and roll show, but I have seen far more respectful behavior at a kids birthday party than I saw last night. I'm not trying to sound like a cop or someone's parent here, but I was really let down by the negativity. I don't know how widespread it was, but it was pretty gnarly in the area in front of Phil and Jackie.


I was standing at the front rail in front of Phil and Jackie throughout the show. At one point in the second set - a group of drunken, disrespectful, loudmouth idiots stormed up to the rail where my friend and I was standing. Needless to say I had to turn around and told a drunken bastard (sorry for the phrase, but appropriate for this person) to be respectful to all of the people around him. He was screaming at the top of his lung, which made it uncomfortable for us to hear the band. Unfortunately, when you are dealing with a drunk person at a show, the message gets lost. Fortunately for us, a friend of the drunk had to tell him to quiet down. 10 minutes later, the drunk acted up again. This time, the person to my left (big, and someone you did not want to mess with) turned around and had to shut him down.

We all love to have great vibes when going to any shows, however it start with the person themselves to be respectful and courteous to other around them. Unfortunately, this seems to be a common problem when you have a general admissions' show when you have a "few" bad apples to ruin the experience for other. As veterans of many GD, Phil & Friends, Other Ones, JGB and Ratdog's shows, I felt compelled to let the drunk person knows that his behavior was not appreciated by others around him!

Robin (Melian) ok cool...I see what you are saying and you are right. I hate the people that complain as well. You are also 100% right that it was clear to the fans, what kinda of band this was before last night.

I wrote that review because it seemed to me like there was alot of people who just wrote setlists or people who took a minute or two just to bash it or to praise it. So i thought i would just give my honest opinion about the show and the music.

Was it the beardy young kid in the corduroy jacket? I think he was tripping balls and being a fucking nightmare until his girlfriend came and calmed him down. I saw him giving you grief and then your huge bald-headed friend shut him up. I was dancing hard the whole show until those clowns in the furry costumes came in and took over the space. In the end, everyone gave each other space and it was mellow, but I did notice a few kids getting out of the area fast, obviously bummed out. Usually drunks are harmless once you tell them to cool out, but there was a really frightening Manson-eyed dude who was clearly not well in the head and charged into the crowd. He was genuinely threatening to people around him and I could tell that these girls next to me were scared of him. I'm hoping it was down to Halloween and not nYc. Still, REALLY looking forward to the next 5 shows I'm going to.

Out of hand threatening drunks?
Shades of Altamont, folks.
Fortunately the area I was in (taper's section on the second level) had a lot of older heads who were appreciating what they were seeing/hearing.

What a fun show last night!

Of all the Phil shows I've seen this was the one that felt most like a party- the stage done up spooky with light up skulls and cobwebs, the crowd in costume and outside the neon and 5 story high video screens of Times Square and half of NYC out and about in costume giving the Deadfreaks a run for their money on the quest for ultimate strangeness!

A few folks here have called the show "lackluster" and I'm not gonna try to argue with your personal experience since mine is just as subjective as yours. But I had a great time.

I can understand, in a way, where the people calling "lackluster" are coming from. As I said the show was very fun and like a party. The proceedings were kept light-hearted. Novelty trumped psychedelic meltdown (with perhaps one "Caution"-ary
exception [more on that soon]). At least 4 songs were breakouts and 2 others are extreme rarities among the Phriends.
Naturally when playing a song for the first time there's the possibility of hesitency, mistakes, and a generally restrained delivery (since you're just trying to remember all the chords and words before you think about the big JAM) But I never doubted that the guys on stage, Phil especially, were having a blast on this night. Phil's closing "Bwwwaaahahaha!" at the end of the first set made it clear that he was enjoying himself.

The show might have seem "lackluster" to some because there were no real "deep" songs in the setlist, y'know the ones that can get you misty (Brokedown, Stella Blue, Morning Dew, Unbroken Chain, Terrapin--- to name a few) The set list was made for a party. Sure the sets were heavy on covers but it was Halloween!
I was sure happy to hear the songs that Phil and the band obviously took great care in picking to add to the Halloween flavor.

And since this was show 5 of 8 for me for this tour, I liked having the total curveball setlist. I know the "normal, more serious" sets will return for the rest of the NYC run. Though I can understand disappointment if this was the ONE show of the tour you could make it to and you really wanted a Dark Star or a Box or a U Chain or a H>S>F

My enjoyment of the show was also increased by the presence of a new friend, Gina, a very pretty and engaging lady who took my extra ticket and hung out with me for the whole show swapping stories between songs and sets.

"Shakedown" was the perfect party starter! It had the costumed crowd dancing from the get-go and had Molitz's space-age funk keyboards high in the mix. The jam started to go to a brighter melodic place and I though an arrow (">") was coming. I jotted down "Mr. Fantasy jam?" but in hindsight I think it was a tease/foreshadowing of the Sympathy for the Devil that'd pop up later. Then the melody and disco darkness of Shakedown reprised (much to the joy of the guy dressed as the Simpsons' "Disco Stu" behind me) but only for a moment before coming to a full stop.

There was no segue into Loose Lucy. There wasn't an extended tuning break or anything but there was no ">" despite what the setlist here on philzone is currently showing.

The Loose Lucy that followed was up to the high standard that Jackie's been delivering on the tune since he joined the band. Maybe not a standout version but very well played and the sing-a-long "thank you for a real good time!" pushed the party up a notch. Jackie only played a couple bars on his harmonica, there was no full-lown harp solo as there have been in other versions.

By the way, security seemed completely absent on the floor for this show which led to a nice vibe. No big dudes in black weaving through the crowd with flashlights. People puffed discreetly and the party went on without tension from the Nokia Man.

Further digressing for a moment: I realize the Nokia theatre is a couple stories below ground, but other people around me were getting cell service. But me with my NOKIA phone couldn't get any bars! Mind you it's a referbed bottom-of-the-line Nokia but still. In a venue carrying the Nokia name I should get crystal clear service on my Nokia phone. In fact I should get free minutes! But back to Phil's Halloween Fantasty land...

A Jackie Greene tune followed, well-played as are all of his concise songs. Based on the lyrics it's apparently called "Don't Let the Devil Take Your Mind" so it fit with the theme of the night. I don't have the setlists for the tour memorized but I don't think they've played this one before. Phil in particular seemed glued to his teleprompter suggesting this might have been its first time aired by the Friends.

It was the only Jackie-penned tune of the night bucking the trend of 2-3 Jackie songs per show. But room had to be made for the Halloween ear candy that needy to be unwrapped before the end of the night

Speaking of Candy, Candyman came next! I thought it'd be the perfect cue for actual candy to come falling from the ceiling like balloons at midnight New Years. It would've been a nice touch, but I realize that a tootsie roll falling on your head from 25 feet can do a lot more damage/hurt than balloons do.
Anyway, the evening put the song into a new context. The song itself was enjoyable but sounded a bit tentative at times and the chorus harmony vocals weren't quite of Crosby, Stills, and Nash quality (more like just Young x3 on a bad day!) . Jackie's organ sounded like it was hitting sour chords a few times too. Still, despite seeming a bit new to the words, Jackie gave the vocals enough passion (more than another man did with the same initials, throughout the 80s-90s) to make it enjoyable and get some cheers from the crowd, especially the way he sang the line about Memphis.

It's also worth noting that there was a whimsical little jam of maybe 2 minutes before Candyman that was led by Jackie's organ. It reminded me of some sort of game show interlude music. Phil left the stage. I wondered if maybe he'd come back in a costume (Barney, perhaps?) but his brief absence was probably just because he had to pee. The man IS 67 so I'm sure his bladder isn't quite as strong as it once was...

After Candyman, the first big Halloween-themed surprise of the evening came, "I Put a Spell on You" with Jackie handling the blues-wailing vocal and trading hot licks with Larry Cambell.

By the way, i think Larry should have gone for the full cowboy costume for Halloween. He's worn a Western shirt every time I've seen him. It would've been hilarious to have him in chaps, a 10 gallon hat and toys guns in hoslters around his waist. Imagine him looking like that and singing "Big River." It would've put all of Bobby's cowboy attempts to shame!

the jam cooled off and I could feel a segue coming. The guy next to me said it was "Ghost," the Phish tune. I'm a Phish phan but if it was anything Phish it first sounded more to me like "Sand" another Phish/Trey band song. But I really didn't think they were gonna do a Phish tune unless Trey was onstage. But sure enough, Molitz comes in with the vocals.

Ghost was great to hear! It certainly paled in comparison to all Phish versions I've heard. But it was competently played and I was fine with it being played just for the novelty. Molitz first lead vocals (of the tour?) were a bit tentative and low in the mix (is there some sort of sabotage or conspiracy with Molitz's levels? He CAN be real loud in the mix occasionally but his default level seems to be "barely audible") I

didn't keep a close track of time, but this version of Ghost seemed maybe 5-7 minutes. Phish usually takes a good 20 minutes to layout the jam and I think it benefits from that room. The best moment of the tune was the little space break, during which the percussion dropped out and things got droney and weird for a minute or two before the melody, drums, and vocals snapped back in. The space break seemed longer than the one Phish usually did (for them usually only 10-20 seconds, at least in the versions I've heard.)

The jam veered away from Phishy-ness. It started sounding bright and melodic. Gina and I kep trying to call the tune but it kept changing before we could figure it out.

The jam then dropped suddenly into Casey Jones. A strong version. This song is pretty tightly structured, and they hit on all the points: words sung passionately by Jackie, a hot little guitar solo, the accelerondo chorus vocals and the a capella reprise.

Just before leaving the stage before the break Phil said something about how they'd be back for more Halloween fun and then he let out a couple of "Bwaahahahaha"'s. I knew the tricks and treats would continue in the second set.

For the whole show, there was a grim reaper decoration on stage. Was it coincidence that it was hanging right behind Molitz? Four other keyboardists that Phil has played with are all now dead from a variety of causes (Pigpen, Keith, Brent, Vince) Was the hanging Reaper Phil's way of acknowledging this with a bit of black humor and telling Molitz "be careful or you'll be next!"?

I half expected a "Raven" space like thing during this show with Phil doing spooky vocals. And that's exactly how the 2nd set started, Phil remained off stage as the rest of the band laid down some low-key creepy space but Phil vocals were in the PA reading some sort of scary story. His vocals were loud enough volume-wise but the deep bassy drone of his voice compromised his annunciations. I could definitely get the mood if not the actual story of the piece. I wonder if it was something he wrote for the show or something from a book.

Anyway, his delivery with the band playing abstract and spacey made me think of Jim Morrison's American Prayer.

Phis came on stage and the jam become more rhythmic and melodic and found it's way into "Cryptical" I figured we'd be in for some tasty detours and not just a straight up cryp>01>cryp
And I was right...

Soon after the vocals ended, Phil's basslines became very prominent and angular and he became Jon Entwistle of the Who for the debut version of the Who's quirky "Boris the Spider."
I must admit I'm not too familiar with the Who's catalogue, beyond the hits, so it took me a minute to figure out what song it was. I guess my head was still in Jim Morrison/Doors land and I thought maybe it was some deep Doors cut since the way Phil sang "Boris the spider" all low and bassy made me think of "Mr. Mojo rising!"
Anyway Phil had a big smile on his face, obviously getting a kick out of the wave of WTF?! expressions sweeping over the crowd. I don't know the original well at all so I can't really say if Phil's version lived up to the original. But it was certainly unexpected fun.

In the jam after Boris, Molo laid down a heavy truly disco-fied hi-hat beat for a minute. More disco than Shakedown. This was a beat straight off a 1978 12" single. Phil's bass following along seemed to have a droney quality to it and I had a flash of them doing Donna Summer's "I Feel Love"---- now how ridiculous would that have been, Phil singing "oooh it's so good it's so good. it's sooo good!"

Well soon enough, the bass line turned into a quick walking line and the tempo ratcheted up and Caution became apparent. Jackie handled the vocals. His voice was strong, though he didn't tell as story like Joan Osborne would do when she handled vocals. Instead he used his vocals as a cue to get each of the other members of the band to take a hot little solo "'Mr. Molitz' 'Mr. Campbell' etc.) Phil seemed to get a kick out of Jackie taking the band by the reins. When Jackie called for Phil to solo, Phil did the descending sequence of resonating notes that he's been throwing in bass-heavy jams since the beginning of the Dead (eg. the end of Caution 9/26/68) "dunt"-"dut-"dut-duhhhh"
After the little solos the really hot group jam started. Larry, Phil and Jackie huddled in close to Molo's left facing each other.
Wails were exchanged, working the crowd into a frenzy. And this was the one big psychedelic melt-down of the evening. This was the moment that had me losing myself and dancing spastically with abandon. What happened in Caution is was I think most Phil fans hold as "those moments" that make a show special in the traditional sense. Tonight it only really happened here (and maybe in the next two songs to a lesser extent) but I was fine with exchanging it during the rest of the show for the setlist shennanigans!

The open-ended jam of Caution led to Hendrix's Voodoo Chile. I don't have my copy of Elec Ladyland handy but the one the played tonight was the long bluesy one not the similarly titled funkier wah-wah tune that begins with "I'm standing next to a mountain." Lke all the songs calling for fiery vocals, Jackie handled them. He and Larry traded guitar solos. And I think it was during this tune that Larry walked over to Molitz and faced him jamming with eyes locked together for a minute---- the only time I can remember Larry doing something like that.

The jam led into a great Other One with a nice roll intro. Phil missed his vocal entrance on "the bus came by" and just smiled and jammed it for a minute till it came back around. I must admit I miss Larry playing this song on fiddle like he'd do in 05-06.

For the record Larry played only electric guitar at this show. This show was definitely about the rock. So there was no mando, fiddle, acoustic, cittern, or pedal steel.

The Cryptical that followed was relatively short. There weren't really many repeated "he had to die"'s before the jam shifted and got brighter. I heard suggestions of Scarlet and then Cosmic Charlie but then things got dark and blues and a really good New Speedway Boogie followed. Jackie was on fire on the vocals and guitar. This was perhaps my favorite post-Dead version. But it's fresh in my head and I haven't yet heard the discs so I'll hold off from making definitive statements. But it was definitely a standout version.

Fire On the Mountain followed. The hall was filled with great dancing energy. Phil picked a lot of songs with simple catchy sing-along choruses for tonight to keep the crowd involved and part of the party and this was definitely on of them. Steve Molitz's keys were loud for his solo. He had a 70s prog/funk tone going on. It seems like the weird toned keyboards are always way up in the mix when he plays them, but the standard B3 or piano sound ing keyboards are often very low in the mix.

The band played a very clean and together Scarlet coda to put Fire out cold. (and since a Hendrix tune was played earlier I just want to clarify this was "Fire opn the Mountain" not "let me stand next to your..."....digression: if you're looking for a very fun very early Phish live tape from the bar band days, try 12/1/84@ Nectars which features Scarlet>Hendrix's Fire>Fire on the Mt.> Makisupa Policeman!)

I figured this was gonna be set end since usually Fire after a long stretch of ">"s means set end. But...wait, there's more!

Sympathy for the Devil was premiered! Jackie of course the only one who could even attempt Jagger's vocals. He did a pretty good job too, though he got a bit lost in the wordiness of the piece reading it off his prompter and missed actually introducing himself. He only managed to mumble "My name is Lucifer" almost completely off mic. The band played the song a bit slower than the Stones' original,but it was good fun and Jackie laid down his guitar for a bit to shake some maracas.

I don't know if Sympathy will make it into regular rotation, but since 2005 Phil seems to have a big thing for the Stones (Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar, Tumbling Dice, and now Sympathy) soon he can just do 1st set all Dylan, 2nd set all Stones. I'm not really complaining, though I'm slightly biased against the Stones.

For a moment I thought Golden Road was gonna end the set. But instead w got a strong I Know You Rider with Molitz's keyboard surprisingly loud in the PA and some intense Phil bombs during the finale

The encore was the inevitable but very welcome "Werewolves of London" cover. It was a bit rusty, but I liked how each member of the group (sans Molo) sang a verse even though their phrasing was somes off (Molitz especially) But everyone in the crowd sung "uh-woooo" and it was the perfect cap for a great night of music with 2 expectation-defying sets of music.

Someone posted on here earlier that the Nokia had no curfew, but they could've fooled me with the way the lights came on within seconds of the end of Werewolves, with Chris isaak's "Wicked Games" playing loudly on the house PA. I think it ended at about 12:15. Fist set started right around 8:15.

I was surprised threre were no "Jerry Garcia" costumes in the crowd. But maybe that's too obvious a costume choice. The only Dead-themed costumes I saw was the brilliant group of 4 or so Dancing Bears, each a different bright color with the collar and a furry suit that went from head to toe!

Since my place to crash had fallen through, I intended to make my way to a hostel for the night after grabbing a bite to eat and checking out some of the Halloween madness throughout Manhattan. But there was so much visual stimulation with all sort of crazy costume and the always eye-catching "sexy" variation on costumes of the ladies, mostly meaning less clothes than you can get away with on the street on the other 364 days of the year ("sexy" soccer ref, "sexy" cop, "sexy" goldilocks etc) though there was a surprising dearth of the old standby, the "sexy" french maid costume.

I wandered around listening to bootleg Zeppelin (3/19/75 and 6/21/77) as I made my way down the island. The Village was still swarming with 20-somethings long after the Halloween parade was over. There were cops everywhere, but mostly they were just standing by and letting the drunken revelry spill out where it might, as long as it didn't get violent.

Well anyway, with the bars being upon til 4AM and plenty of 24-hour eating establishments, there was plenty of people watching to be had and places to rest up and snack in this City that Never Sleeps...

well the city DID get a bit drowsy around 5AM but soon after it was time to catch the first Chinatown bus back to Philly.

see you at the Nokia on the 8th,9th, and 10th

all, i think the mix of reviews jibes well with my experience. liked the spirit of the band and think they did best in tighter arrangements with ensemble instrumental work. best example of this imo was in the candyman solo - larry did some nice solo work through to the point where GD would do the "woo, oo" part before going into the last verse... that part was done instrumental with a tasty pass off to jackie on piano. tasteful.

probably my biggest suggestion to jackie is that he might want to work a bit on his rhythm guitar... he is a very straight-ahead rhythm player, which is a good thing in that he is not trying to do too much. on the other hand, larry could use a little more color and support in my view - think about warren when he supports - just lifts the soloist up - or bobby back in the day with his quirky signature riffs. a little more creativity there might open the possibilities for this band, esp. if they give molitz a little more scope as i think he is a very creative and dynamic player who is not getting a lot of space right now. his solo on fire (where, by the way, larry scored the solo of the night) was hauntingly jerry-from-the-grave-like and very interesting.

on the venue/crowd: i was with my wife and we were very fortunate to have found a less crowded spot out of the fray. people were exceedingly chill and friendly, very old school. on my tours thru the floor and then to the halls during set break, it was a mob scene - very drunken-NYC-halloweed situation. not so pleasant for sure. it's been part and parcel of a lot of metro NYC shows time out of mind, so isn't really surprising to me. key is to stay away from the apparently "prime" spots like on the floor close to stage, etc., where the aggressive meatheads just move in and crush you. for better and worse, this ain't the greek theater, it's Noo Yawk -- you get the high energy shows alongside the high energy meatheads. amidst all of that are many old time, knowledgable, sweet heads who are great to hang with.

and how about PHIL the gentle mad professor and conjurer of darkness on hallow's eve? NICE work with 'pit and pendulum' (sadly tough to make out with the sound system), and the thematic darkness of the second set. although this is true of most dead sets/material in general, this one ran the gamut of death, damnation, fire, tribulation, loss and longing. actually a pretty dark second set when you consider it, and a nice creative song list with great spirit to it. what a gift, eh?!

>>>the show was not good...from a veteran.

Son, you don't sound like a veteran to me. (Seems a lot of them are weighing in on the other stuff board, or see the detailed review above.) Doesn't mean you're a bad guy--you're probably not--but are you a fan of music? Or do you only care about hearing Trey play guitar? Trey is a good guitarist; he's done some fine work with Phil. I like him better than Sco, but he's still light years from Jimmy and Warren. One of the great things about Warren that people forget was the way he interpreted the songs vocally. He is a great singer. And Joan Osborn too. One of my fondest Phil moments was her Caution at Bonaroo. So it doesn't always have to be psychedelic in my book.

If Jackie's singing is getting it done, not to mention some great Dylan-like harmonica playing, and Larry is ripping it up on many instruments, with Phil playing some upright bass, then I would think it could be good. Put A Spell On Me, Voodoo Chile and Sympathy For The Devil are three of the greatest rock songs ever put to paper. And throw in some Edgar Allan Poe--how can you not get excited?

Again, I wasn't there. But I have seen Van Morrison and Neil Young in the last month and thought they were better than ever. Just making great music. I'm going into this with fresh ears, not having seen Phil for a while, and I hope I am similarly moved. If not, I will say so, and why.

I didnt read the whole thing but Sebastian's review has to be one of the longest single post reviews ever...

no matter what anyone says about anything I'm pumped as hell for FRIDAY!!!

By IntoAshes on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:46 pm: Edit Post
Was it the beardy young kid in the corduroy jacket? I think he was tripping balls and being a fucking nightmare until his girlfriend came and calmed him down. I saw him giving you grief and then your huge bald-headed friend shut him up. I was dancing hard the whole show until those clowns in the furry costumes came in and took over the space. In the end, everyone gave each other space and it was mellow, but I did notice a few kids getting out of the area fast, obviously bummed out. Usually drunks are harmless once you tell them to cool out, but there was a really frightening Manson-eyed dude who was clearly not well in the head and charged into the crowd. He was genuinely threatening to people around him and I could tell that these girls next to me were scared of him. I'm hoping it was down to Halloween and not nYc. Still, REALLY looking forward to the next 5 shows I'm going to.

Yes - it was the beardy young kid in the Corduroy Jacket. He was giving me this look on his face like I was the one who was crazy. I did not drink at all during the show and was completely aware of my surrounding. BTW, the bald-headed guy was not my friend, however he was frustrated by the young kid's disrespectful attitude toward our "neighbors". I am glad that you noticed which individual was giving trouble as I tried to be levelheaded with that person. NYC crowd is fantastic by nature, unfortunately you have to deal with young and obnoxious concertgoers who does not have a clue what respect means! Thank you IntoAshes!

Great, in-depth review Sebastian!

Thanks, man.

I was at 10/31/85, opened with Werewolves...

...that one was a goody!

ES

Over the last 26 years of seeing shows, whenever reviews of a show include diversity from "sucked" to "killer", there's no question that the majority of the difference is nothing more than vibe of the person that night. We all know each persons' vibe can be different from night to night. And, some people are just generally and consistently pessimistic and/or somewhat negative. It's been that way forever, almost everywhere. Throw in a small venue with an NYC crowd and you get what NYC can bring to the table. Why don't we all try to bring your Grateful Dead vibe and a considerate, thoughtful attitude to the show and if you can't muster it up that night, maybe do everyone a favor and sell or give your ticket to someone who's ready to smile, gig and see the glass as half full! Peace, Love and 67-year old Rock Stars!!!

i find that east coast shows the people like to get drunk and stand there and sing along..and they dont dance..it almost offends them

i find that liquid and KB flow like water in west coast shows, and that SURELY makes for a more loose, dance yer heart out scene...

it takes a lot for me to cross the ole' miss again for music.


about NYC, a famous band once said
"...and If yer smart, you'll get out too"


cant wait to hear the tapes

..

>>>Sounds like JGe has listened to more that a little bit of Lobos in his day (how about a coupla LL covers?).

Good guess! Steve Berlin from Los Lobos produced Jackie Greene's last album "American Myth."

while I wasn't at the show last night, as a new yorker I would say a couple things about the "vibe":

1. in terms of venues in NYC, Nokia is one of the worst. better than the floor of Hammerstein, but barely.

2. Halloween night generates a level agita unlike any other night in NYC. 364 nights a year get out there, Halloween night be home with the doors locked before dark.

I suspect last night attracted a lot of bozos that won't show up again for the balance of the shows, that's the good news. the bad news is the Nokia will continue to suck and nothing can be done about that.

overall I suspect things improve going forward...

ES

PS...were they searching at the door??

I was not at this show, but have listened to everything on this tour as well as having seen Phil since the beginning of Phil & Friends. In my opinion, this is definately the weakest lineup he has played with. They are also going with an entirely different approach to the music. This is not the jam band of Warren and Jimmy or Larry and Scofield etc. This is more about the songs, the singing and a change. I think Jackie is great, but prefer him solo to this. I do not particularly like this lineup, but I am sure it will change again in a tour or two and would expect it to go back to something more "traditional" in the sense of Deaddom and jamming.
I love the fact that he is willing to change lineups, work with different people and try different things. Too few musicians are willing to do that and he is to be commended for it.

Yeah, they searched at the door with handheld wands, but it was cursory at best. I had my one hitter in my belt and had no problem getting in. I smoked fairly openly on the floor and never got a second's hassle from security. The only hassle I noticed was for people taking photos. I have been to far worse venues in NYC than the Nokia last night, but that could be down to my limited experience there.

The show was 7 out of 10.

I liked the Dead mostly due to the interaction of the 2 guitars.

This band does not do that very well.

I am going to try to get rid of my tickets; but if that turns out to be a fruitless endeavor. I will attend.

Phil is 67 year's old and had his health issues. I am just grateful (pun intended) that the mofo is still out there playin! And that goes for Bobby and Mickey too!

thx for feedback IntoAshes.

as for my negative comments on the venue...it was more targeted to the fact that (i) I think they oversell, so overcrowded, (ii) getting a drink is a royal PITA, (iii) getting to B/R is a royal PITA. I also worry about getting out of there in event of emergency.

I didn't remember there being any major issues with security going in, and def not inside, but just thought I'd check up on it.

ES

Hello, 1st post here, sure hope I don't get flamed too bad lol

I've only seen P+F a few times, last night was the 1st time this tour, so I can't compare to other shows. I did enjoy last nights show. I thought there were MOMENTS of psychedelic brilliance in the sense that, as I remember it, the jams, intros and seques were mostly light and lilting in contrast to the darker, more heavy musical and lyrical themes of the songs. That contrast struck me as psychedelic- dark>light>dark etc.. Maybe I'm imagining it all, or maybe Phil and Friends were bringing a more cerebral type of trip to the stage .

Someone mentioned that Phil blew the TOO V2 lyrics, I was watching on the TV monitor in the back, and it looked like he sang to loud/close to the mic and the mic couldn't handle it.

I'm looking forward to listening to a recording. I think there may be some good one's as the taper section looked like a good spot.

If you want to avoid the craziness, I would suggest the seating area in the back. The sound was okay, most everyone was dancing, and there was no security to be seen after the 1st set. There's a door in the middle of the back for easy entrance to the bar and what not. I'm surprised no one commented about the cute cocktail waitresses going around, they were pretty constant in the back, easy to look it and easy to get a drink.

BTW, I think that was the 1st Dead or Dead-related show I was at where I ONLY smelled schwag burning. I thought that was strange for a "Harvest Tour"...

Even though the Nokia is only a few years old, I've seen many shows there, and usually like the venue. But sellouts are a problem. It's too darned packed.

Hello, 1st post here, sure hope I don't get flamed too bad lol

I've only seen P+F a few times, last night was the 1st time this tour, so I can't compare to other shows. I did enjoy last nights show. I thought there were MOMENTS of psychedelic brilliance in the sense that, as I remember it, the jams, intros and seques were mostly light and lilting in contrast to the darker, more heavy musical and lyrical themes of the songs. That contrast struck me as psychedelic- dark>light>dark etc.. Maybe I'm imagining it all, or maybe Phil and Friends were bringing a more cerebral type of trip to the stage . IMHO, I think the Caution cancels out any criticism or any other lameness of the show.

Someone mentioned that Phil blew the TOO V2 lyrics, I was watching on the TV monitor in the back, and it looked like he sang to loud/close to the mic and the mic couldn't handle it.

I'm looking forward to listening to a recording. I think there may be some good one's as the taper section looked like a good spot.

If you want to avoid the craziness, I would suggest the seating area in the back. The sound was okay, most everyone was dancing, and there was no security to be seen after the 1st set. There's a door in the middle of the back for easy entrance to the bar and what not. I'm surprised no one commented about the cute cocktail waitresses going around, they were pretty constant in the back, easy to look it and easy to get a drink.

BTW, I think that was the 1st Dead or Dead-related show I was at where I ONLY smelled schwag burning. I thought that was strange for a "Harvest Tour"...

Enjoy the love and joy these guys bring because IT IS REAL, and there for you to grab!


Word, Chris O.

wow...thanks for the monster reviews!!!!!!

I think it is fair to say if you don't dig jackie greene, it will be hard to get off on this band. Personally, I was disappointed. I felt it was too straight forward of an appraoch to music that at times, at least, should be transportational. There was no playful quality to the music. I felt like I was watching a good backing bar band, lacking any star quality. And I do not mean a big name star, I mean somebody who stands out as remarkable and unique. Larry Campbell is great when he has Trey to push him, but on his own, he is unremarkable. Proficient yes, but I guess I am use to a creative, psychedelic, player with a good tone to his playing that can get inside and out, up and down with the music and help take us on a ride. I almost feel bad being negative, but I personally expect alot more from a band that plays with someone of Phil Lesh's caliber,

Hey Sebastisn, great read there! Have a blast at the rest of the shows!

Good comments all around. But sincerely, I think that might as well bill this band as 'The Jackie Green Band feat. Phil Lesh.' If I'm not mistaken, this is how it will be with the Letterman appearance, correct?!?! Best vocals of any Phil lineup, but some of the most 'inexperienced' jams needless to say. AND BTW - Nokia is not my most fav venue in the Metropolitan area. Make sure you have proper expectations before heading down the Space Mountain escalators @ Nokia.
;-)

I feel sorry for the UNGRATEFUL haters and malcontents. Sadly, it appears that some folks just will never be satisfied, no matter what gifts they are given. As evidenced by this thread, I suspect a disproportionate number of these naysayers are attracted to online boards as an outlet for their negativity.

That being said, I would just like to say that I found the Halloween show to be ENERGETIC, INSPIRED, CREATIVE, and otherwise ONE HELL OF A PARTY. This was my 5th show of the tour, and it seems to me that this band just keeps getting HOTTER AND HOTTER.

Jackie was incredible. IMO, this challenging show (5 breakouts!) was his best performance yet. I was especially impressed by his new tune, "Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind," and his vocal improv during Caution. It is so cool to see Jackie evolving and taking flight in this way.

It is also great to see Molitz becoming a more palpable force within this band. He totally nailed the vocals on Ghost, and was overall more prominent in the mix.

BTW, I was also in that aforementioned area, 5 feet from the stage, between Phil and Jackie. Sure, the crowd was a little boisterous... but hey, this is not Sunday school. I never saw anyone seriously out of control, and there was nothing about the crowd or the venue that detracted from my enjoyment of the experience-- in fact, quite to the contrary.

I, for one, will be hanging on to my tickets for the remainder of this run!

THANK YOU, PHIL. WE LOVE YOU!!!

I had a great time on Halloween taping the show. Further, it was the 37th anniversary of my first shows when most of you naysayers weren't even fucking protoplasm in your old man's ballz....

For those wallowing in their self induced stupidities that it didn't have THIS, or it didn't have THAT......allow me to say: FUCK YOU. Stay home, and leave the space for folks who are digging this new band and are open to the possibilities.

And I for one am liking what I hear. Many of us are. Why? We're open minded enough not to be comparing this to other Phil configurations and pissing and moaning about inconsequential minutae. The whole guest thing is another item that's way over the top as well.

Sebastian - good objective review. Others here as well have chimed in and I thank you for your comments.

For you other yahoos, Phil recited Poe's "Pit and the Pendulum" at the beginning of the 2nd set as the band built up their improviso to Cryptical. Half the fucking place couldn't even recognized the Caution let alone the great Screamin Jay Hawkins tune from the first set. Just a lot of pathetic frat boyz guzzling pissy Budweiser.....wooooohooooooo!!!! <<STFU already.

great point, I remember looking around during the caution jam and there were only a few heads sizling around my old style custom made sombrero !up on the rail ,the people I saw singing casey jones with confidence ! were now looking dumbfounded for the whole cryptical>boris>caution>voodoo chile>other one>cryptical roast off! not to mention the 68-69 style three bomb power chord segment, bomb,bomb,bomb, do, do, do,do ,do, do,do,do,bomb,bomb,bomb!!!!!

Geez, I have to say from sitting here across the pond, that coming home from a 2nd setlist like that and not even feeling grateful at being handed such a neat 'novelty show', is very sad, regardless of the playing. GD New Years Eve shows weren't that hot, playing-wise but we still knew they were special for other reasons, including song choice.

So Taco, explain da 68-69 stylee thang a wee bit more, pliss :-)

If Jackie's singing is getting it done, not to mention some great Dylan-like harmonica playing, and Larry is ripping it up on many instruments, with Phil playing some upright bass, then I would think it could be good. Put A Spell On Me, Voodoo Chile and Sympathy For The Devil are three of the greatest rock songs ever put to paper. And throw in some Edgar Allan Poe--how can you not get excited?

If I were to rate this show Like I would a play on Broadway I would score it highly. It was creative and un-like many P$F shows. But as a concert goes..........it was NOT HOT!


lARRY IS NOT THE MAN TO CARRY THE LEAD!!!!!!!

i DON'T KNOW WHO SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING TO BUT i DO KNOW FROM SEEING THESE BOYS AT mOHEGAN, gLENN fALLS, AND sYRACUSE, THAT THIS IS PROPBABLY THE BEST INCARNATION OF pHIL AND fRIENDS SINCE T5HE QUINTET DAYS. jACKIE AND lARRY BOTH RIP ON THE GUITAR ANF mOLO, WELL HE SPEAKS FOR HIMSELF. aND pHIL'S SINGING HAS EVEN IMPROVED

Hey Kenny, you're entitled to your opinion as to what's HOT and what's NOT. The shows have been really good (like last nite's)

I'm open to the music. I like what Larry does on his axe and you have to throw away any staid preconceptions as to someone having to carry the load. Trey obviously can (but I don't want him at every show; this is Phil's gig and current configuration of his Searching for the Sound....it's ever changing and that's what makes it fresh.

I look at it purely from an ensemble point of view with the sum of it's parts being the 'ticket' here. And quite effective.

What's disturbing is the continuing commentary as to the drunken fratboy mentality that again manifested itself (last nite).

Fucking Assholes. Pissy American beer ain't going to get you HIGH. The music is. Kind bud will, but fucking Budweiser? or even a Guiness? Fuck no. They're depressants.

The show is now seeded at etree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=510765

Personally, I thought it kicked ass and am looking forward to hearing it again.

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