If Warren will be flying east to catch a night with Phil, it looks like this will be the night (Sun 11/11 is the only other possibility, given Mule's tour schedule).
I'm flyin' in from Colorado and I can't wait. Morning Dew please Phil and Thank You!
I have two tix for Nov 6 and will be at Nov 5 show. Anyone want these for close for face value?
Just finishing up a C-section on a 450+# mom...Then it's up to NYC for the show. Right now we're listening to the Scarlet Begonias from Camden 10-12! GETTING VERY PSYCHED!!!
Just came up with an extra tix for monday night, anybody interested (face value or close to) let me know (email address and i will write back) I will be in NYC all morn. and obviously around show time if anybody needs the ticket.
I am interested in the ticket for Monday. My email is: email@example.com
Lookin' for a Viola tonight. Maybe a New Speedway, since they teased it on Saturday. Also thought I heard a Truckin tease
Tonight's my 3rd show of my 6 pack. Thursday was good, Saturday was off the charts.
Has there been a Scarlet on this run yet ? Or an Eyes ?
no scarlet yet and yes your right no eyes yet either. Maybe a monday with the blues will bring a scarlet.
Anyone with 1-2 extras for tonight?? Please let me know.. need some more phil!
I've been looking for this info, and can't seem to find it, but.....
Does anyone know if there are any seats at all in this venue?
If so, what gives one the best chance to get them?
All help appreciated.
seats in the back get to Nokia before 8PM.
My friend Walter is on the plane right now from Dusseldorf -- does he win for longest trip? He hasn't seen Phil in at least ten years, his first show was Munich 74. Should be a blast tonight & tomorrow.
Say hi if you see us!
Are you saying that the usual experience is that most folks prefer not to use the seats and prefer to try to get closer upfront?
(My wife's a delicate flower, and loves the music, but doesn't like to get jostled.)
Thoughts from anyone?
The Nokia used to be a movie theater, LTF, so there are a bunch of seats rising toward the back, and in the front there are two or three floors that are standing room only. If your wife doesn't like to get jostled, the front is not where you want to be -- it gets pretty tight. I think Matt was saying that you need to be there before 8 if you want to grab a seat.
The sound in the seating section is really good, and in getting there by 8:00 you should be able to score some decent seats. Although probably nearer to the back.
Looking for 1 ticket for tonight's show - if anyone has an extra shoot me an email firstname.lastname@example.org. If you're in the city can meet anytime today or before the show.
Doesn't matter where you sit in the seats because it sounds incredible - even in the last row. Thanks to the hanging speakers. Saturday night the seats filled up by 7:30pm.
giddyup! it's almost that time.....
i have two tickets to the sunday night show. i realize the show is not sold out, but i would be willing to sell them for a discount. i will be at saturday nights show and we could meet up before/after if one is interested.
also, kind of a random request. if there is anyone out there who has 2 tickets to dark star orchestras friday night concert in ridgefield, ct, i would be willing to pay face value for those tickets and throw in the 2 sunday night phil tickets for free.
any setlist updates gunna happen tonight?? was at saturday show. very nice second set, glad to hear the eleven.
So is anyone going to be kind enough to provide updates t/o the show?
i'm down to receive emails to post...
Just got a call from a friend who talked to Ryan back stage. We'll see if he comes on to play. It is his birthday.
Extra mic onstage
Common no updates yet?
I think yesterday was his birthday, no?
he'll probably play again, seeing as I'm not there...have fun!
today is his birthday
They start at 830
well then, in the truth is stranger than fiction department, it's also bryan adams' birthday...
that seals it... hard2handle>summer of 69>east plateau>alligator
Someone else just confirmed that Ryan's playing. We shall see!
I am at my 9 y/o's basketball practice here in Philly. I will be back up next Fri-Sat, and I will post from there. Sorry about last Saturday's failure to post. I had too much to drink :-( . If RA sits in again, that would be great...and I would be a little jealous. Last friday was awesome..listening to "joe-beacon's" upload to bt.etree.org, and it sounds great. Also looking forward to hearing what I missed last Saturday :-(, lol.
anyway, what up aimes?
Easy Plateau..first song?
no no no... just correcting my spelling error from above. but, if you'd like we can spread that to other stuff. just attribute it to poz or something.
thought u were getting the lowdown...
Who's your innie Amy?
The mighty "M"?
how about joan on vocals, ryan on guitar?
Actually, it was another friend.
fogerty is in town, too... throw him up there as well.
a friend... or phriend?
I heard Dan Healy is on house sound?
I think they'll get a Cold Rain and Snow opener, ither set 1 or 2/3
married me a wife, loved her like my life
wild guuess - Truckin :-o
he's gone also
agree re the cold rain idea too
me i want china doll > nobody girl>china doll,
with let it ride to end the 2nd set and magnolia for the encore ;-)
but lets not push the band too far ;-)
A friend. Who knows if Ryan will even come out?
No one is texting in the setlist tonight?
Brown Eyed - Golden Road - Viola - Operator
That's what my text says.
Amy...ooh...I fell a long way there !
Well if he doesn't maybe it means I can go to bed at a decent hour here in England. Staying up till 5 last Friday just to watch that unfold was such a trip :-)
Steve Berlin from Los Lobos is guest on Sax.
Amy, THANK YOU! Any further updates would be appreciated.
Viola in full or a sandwhich?
Back into Viola. Sick as hell.
viola-operator-viola ?! hell ryan or no ryan i'll have to stay up. first BEW too :-)
I don't think it's the first Brown Eyed Women...
Next Time You See Me...gotta be Jackie. Holy shit I wish I could be there.
Excellent! Steve Berlin still? I'm digging this first set like whoa.
They closed the first set at Mohegan with Brown Eyed
Back into viola to end the set, eh?
Texts stopped. I don't know what they closed the set with. Goodnight folks.
Bummer, but thanks for the updates Amy!
Steve Berlin from Los Lobos? They have a gig in Wisconsin tomorrow night... Greg Osby's in NYC for sure, it's definitely not him?
No idea...going on what amy g got via text from the show...
big difference there between osby and berlin!
It would make sense since Berlin produces all of Jackie's albums.
chat says that Next Time > Chest Fever !>Sugaree
2nd set so far as of 11 pm
if they played chest fever that'd be great! i wrote in my 1st night Boston review about how i'd love for them to play it. I wonder if they read my post and thought hey "Wheels on Fire" is pretty good, but "Chest Fever" fits this BAND of phriends even better
Other one was a tease!
its my b-day too... Thought this might be the stealth show..sounds like a great setlist. What was the ticket situation like outside? I'm gonna try and go tomorrow.
Eyes - RA
Scarlet - Phil
China Cat - Jackie
Bird Song - RA
Ripple - Jackie
wtf am I doing here
Phil is so damn cool... He knows the history! Today is the 30th Anniversary of one of the epic Grateful Dead shows of all-time, 11-5-77 Rochester, NY. On that 77 night, Phil came out ALONE to start the 2nd set, soloing and eventually the band joined for the Eyes of the World Set 2 opener.
And tonight, he opens the 2nd set with Eyes. Nice goin' Phil!
I was at that 11/5/77 show and it was more than epic, there are no words to describe what went on in that building that night...........
Whats this about Ryan Adams set 2 sit in..??..
He played the whole 2nd set !!!
Ryan turned 33 today!
Set closed w dark star franklins dark star encore wharf rat I am speechless
Not much to say, I'm speechless....
10 show run..surly minds will get blown..
I didn't think Friday could be topped. Tonight's show took us around the universe and back again, dazed, drained and amazed. Security was a major hassle, but people still got high off of the music and other things. First set was epic, an hour and a half... second set on a different plane. There were a few turbulent bumps as well as peaks and valleys, but, oh man, what a journey. Rider, Franklins, UJB jam, fucking DARK STAR AGAIN!!! The night just went on and on and on... the show started at 8:30 and we got out of there at 1 AM, with hardly any time for a set break. This is a peak for this band. I am so so so deeply exhausted and happy. THANK YOU PHIL!!!!!!!
Brown Eyed Women
Golden Road (to Unlimited Devotion)
Viola Lee Blues >
Viola Lee Blues >
Next Time You See Me >
Viola Lee Blues >
Chest Fever >
W/ Ryan Adams
Happy Birthday Ryan
Eyes of the World >
Scarlet Begonias >
China Cat Sunflower >
Bird Song >
Goin Down the Road Feelin Bad
I Know You Rider >
Uncle Johns Band >
Dark Star >
Franklins Tower >
Donor Rap / Band Intro
Brown Eyed Women
Golden Road (to Unlimited Devotion)@
Viola Lee Blues* >
Viola Lee Blues* >
Next Time You See Me* >
Viola Lee Blues* >
Chest Fever* >
@ w/ Steve Berlin (Los Lobos) on keyboards
*w/ Steve Berlin (Los Lobos) on saxophone
W/ Ryan Adams
Happy Birthday Ryan
Eyes of the World >
Scarlet Begonias >
China Cat Sunflower >
Bird Song >
Goin Down the Road Feelin Bad
I Know You Rider >
Uncle Johns Band >
Dark Star >
Franklins Tower >
Donor Rap / Band Intro
The first set had a guest: Steve Berlin - Baritone Sax and piano. He is from Los Lobos and produced Jackie's last album.
I just got home from the show (via Joe's Pizza on Carmine Street). All I can say - HOLY F**KING S**T! This show was off the chart!
Set I (w/Steve Berlin of Los Lobos on KB for 1st song, then sax rest of 1st set)
The Golden Road>
Viola Lee Blues (v1)>
Viola Lee Blues (v2)>
Next Time You See Me>
Viola Lee Blues (v3)>
Chest Fever (the Band)>
Set II (w/ Ryan Adams - B-day)
Phil introduce Ryan Adams to a sing-along Happy Birthday
10:34pm - 12:43am
Eyes of the World (RA)>
Scarlet Begonias (Phil)>
China Cat Sunflower (JG)>
Bird Song (RA)>
I Know You Rider>
Uncle John's Band (PL&RA)>
Dark Star (v1)>
Dark Star (v2)
E: Wharf Rat
Yes, it was that good!!
just got home, too. unreal.
I can not yet comment on the show other than.......Incredible!
This is why I go to shows!
I don't know what I did, but the music gods are making my life a living hell right about now : )
Tremendous, start to finish!
A wild, possessed show which will undoubtedly set the PZ critics on fire. No “first set” tonight, just two intensely jammed-out halves of awesome power, harking back to the old days when anything was possible at any time. Sure to be considered “unusual” for this tour, the amazing thing was, this show never let up.
You might wonder where Phil could go after a 1 hr 30 min set featuring a triple-deck Viola Lee sandwich with guest Steve Berlin on sax. Solid versions of Brown Eyed Women and Golden Road (!) led into the epic Viola Lee (no first set version here), nicely executed with two Pigpen chestnuts in between (the old days again), followed by the Band cover and Sugaree.
[I confess to missing the end of Sugaree to get a jump on the various lines that are developing all over this place. Security was especially nasty and the smoking issue is out of control. Apparently FDNY, NYPD and who knows who else were called in and told the venue to crack down. Seemed more “oversold” than ever. Tip: Be early for everything or you’re waiting in major lines.]
ANYWAY, how did Phil follow that first set? By bringing out RA again and taking it to another level. The song selection will go down in history and I thought the playing lived up to it. More of Jackie’s guitar was featured than the other night with Ryan, a real three-pronged guitar attack. Everybody including Molitz, and especially Phil, was turned up REALLY LOUD. If you were on the floor, you were right in the crucible. I had cotton stuffed so far in my ears and they’re still ringing. Ryan’s guitar tone reminds me of the “shimmering” tone Warren used to get, which I loved, and even if he’s not yet the caliber of Warren, man, he’s really put it out there these last two shows (tonight going with the goofy look on his birthday, glasses and a silly green elf’s hat - is it Christmas?)
I’ll let the pros give the blow-by-blow, and you’ll hear it in a day or two anyway, but I’d say this topped Friday. Topping this might seem difficult, but I’ll trust Phil to find a way, because he and everyone from Molo to Molitz are peaking right now. Thank you all and can’t wait to hear what others say.
hey all great show tn i reviewed it in other stuff.. im really upset that i lost my ticket stub im really obsessive about them loll...i was wondering if someone had an exrta or could maybe send me there eticket and ill print it out .... a scanned picture of one would work too ... if ya can help me out ill hook ya up with a show or two form this tour i have a bunch !!!
This show was very well played and holy shit! Big time jam on Dark star; big time jams on scarlet>chinacat and eyes as well as first set highlight, viola. I am so impressed with the jamming of this band and what I have seen in the development since the SB and Greek shows.
The Ryan Adams celebration was cool, the band was energized and having fun. Security was sort of sronger than what I saw in 3 shows last week- also just a word on entry; they have started lining up people outside on Broadway and the line curls around 45th, so get there early...the check is still mellow, suprisingly mellow.
The show tonight was punctuated by strong base playing on Warfrat and darks star...what a suprise in the placement of Franklins and the DS sandwich. Some repeats, Franklins for the 3rd time but all great fun and a great show!
The band really rocked tonight!!!!
I have seen several of the shows this tour -- including several at Nokia -- I thought many of them were low energy -- in my humble opinion, they broke out tonite -- I missed part of the first set to see my Rangers shut out the Flyers but after the Steal your Rangers action caught Chest Fever on -- it was outstanding. The rest of the week will be a treat.
We came from London for this show, I guess we were really lucky. It was fantastic.......the only other post Dead show I have seen was a Ratdog gig, ..........no comparison. This show really had the spirit. Ryan sounded amazing.
Show was off the wall, the first set was played more like a traditional second set, and the second set just kept on ticking. I cant believe the stamina Phil has to be playing until one in the morning, it sounded so fucking GOOD. Security was definetly tighter then my other show (sat. nite), but they are cool when frisking you to get in. Just a blast from start to finish
Can somebody give me the low-down on the 'crackdown' on smoking that went on last night? I saw Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday nights and the venue could not have been more mellow in that sense. Was there a drastic change last night? If so, what was the scene?
I've been in front of the soundboard on the floor for Saturday and last night's shows. Saturday and 1st set last night was fine. 2nd set..the same security guard who on Saturday was jokin' with everyone, started hasslin' peeps with weed, takin' it away from them, and threatening to throw them out. She made a comment that she was told to really start crakin' down on smokin.
So just be aware of your surroundings for the rest of the run.
Sounds fair enough to me! Thanks for the info, Sam. I was actually taken aback at how lax they had been. It almost felt like being back in Santa Cruz.
Apparently the security crackdown stemmed from the smokefest on Saturday night, with smoke wafting into the Minskoff Theater upstairs - not appreciated by the Lion King crowd. Still not a problem if discreet.
What a show! Epic three guitar rock and roll, impassioned playing throughout. Standout Brown-Eyed Women with Steve Berlin on keyboards. And mind-blowing second set Scarlet China Cat Birdsong etc... WOW! Keep it coming!
The last three retreads were rather surprising....but the REST OF THE SHOW WAS OVER THE MOOOOOON!
What a sweet sunlit godray first set....the shimmering Brown Eyed....THE BOOOMboomBAdaDOdaDUM VIOLA after the BAM BAM golden road!!! HELLLLLLO first set! Yeah, first sets are subpar this tour...INSERT FOOT IN MOUTH MISS HUCKLE!!! Yeah, kinda NOT tonight!
OP ER AAAAAA TOR
yeah baby yeah yeah
and I personally loved PHIL singing it. As it should be.
and a wrong doin woman with Jackie singing - we're just dancin silly now. WHAT A FUN SET.
Viola - back in - and CHEST FEVER!!! Gitmo nailed it with the call - and DAMN IT ALL IF CHEST FEVER WEREN'T A BARNBURNER! Larry singing (sigh) - the song's delicious intrinsic build....I danced with Miss Peggy-O and let the grin creep across my face until it was at least 5 miles wide. The Length of the Brooklyn Bridge!!!
AND THEN THE SUGAREE.
"The Sexiest Sugaree", Peggy-o said. I don't know if I myself can say THAT about a version sans Joan, but YES it was a great Sugaree, full of spunk and spirit.
AND ONE OF THE BEST FIRST SETS I'VE HEARD IN A WHILE, and I'm sure in the running for one of the best all tour. oh helllo - THE SAXAPHONE!!! Who the hell was playin' it, anyway!?!?
Security was hectic last night....but since I went in early they actually helped me maintain my real estate. I missed the Happy Birthday Ryan stuff getting a drink.
Did you say Eyes of the World was up!??!
AND MAN DID THEY PLAY THE HELL OUTTA
THE CHINA CAT
Birdsong good too...and better than the one Friday which actually I thought sounded sludge-y. This one was mo bettah.
Goin down the road....AWESOME - (and right there was a HUGE Other One tease before the GDTRFB, hope we get that tonight) and also btw the GDTR had NO BYG coda.
Instead we got a SUBLIME Ripple. Really super. Mando yummy. Full of heart. BIG GRINS.
BUT WE AINT DONE YET MOTHAFUCKAS!
Boom - Rider. It was the gusto you get in a closer Rider but without the END OF SET bummer part.
UNCA!!!!! I said to the universe when it began, "make this the biggest Uncle John's I ever heard!" Well, wait till you hear it. Our anthem, but with the break in the middle splitting WIIIIIDE open, the Cosmic Rip of Uncle John's! WOW. I was quite impressed with THAT.
And then the Dark Star and the Franklin's and YES they were repeats but DAMN they were good. The Franklin's super. And the Rat was fine too...Peggy-o said even better than the Fri she thought. Maybe. I thought they were both real good. Big jam at the end of the rat...I thought it might go into another song, but Phil brought it to close.
So - those are my initial thoughts. Security was much tighter and YUP I'm still gonna get me in line early. YUP.
One more night before I go back to Balti for a few days...and return on Saturday.
CANT WAIT FOR TONIGHT!
(and Ryan maybe if you want to come back you maybe could learn one or two more songs - JUST KIDDING! love your green hat. )
Virgil's for early dinner????
My legs are so tired from all that dancing...
Huck! I got a pair of tickets.....gotta pick them up at 3pm right by your hotel....
Thanks again for sharing space with me last night! And poz....thanks for the ticket! And everyone else....it was great seeing and meeting you all.
After numerous complaints and undercover activity, security was significantly ramped up on Monday night. Entry searches were intensified, leading to wait times of up to an hour to get in. Security is stationed in the rest rooms during the entire show, and staff has been pulling concertgoers out of stalls if they suspect that anything inappropriate is going on.
Another thing that you should be aware of is that the venue is fully monitored. There are security cameras everywhere - in the lobby and corridors, at the bars, and in the concert hall. Look up and you'll see them. You're under surveillance and being filmed at all times, and the film is subject to review by the NYPD. The same is true for the immediate Times Square area - it's heavily monitored.
So if you're expecting to relive those mellow times at the Fillmore East...forget it!
Phil sang Operator..
Someone get that on YouTube please..
Also an upload of some RA when you have a moment
Thanks for the reviews..
Ian from London
Last night was your second post Jerry show...
How many more shows you doing..??..
I came to New York with no tickets in hand. Have been very lucky due to the coolest Zoners with extras who like "family" are happy to give them at face to the faithfull. Went to three shows thus far all having scored tickets from the kindest zoners. John from Newtown Connecticut, David B the master taper from Jersey (do not ask me what exit), and last nights show was Steve from Staten Island. Thanx you guys YOU ALL FUCKING ROCK!
Met up with my good friend from college days David at the Heartland Brewery where we had some great Stumpkin beverage(stout and ale mixture) which set the tone for the night. They were delicious. We left the bar at about 8 which whould have been 15 minutes before show time based on the previous nights "kick off". Much to our shagrin we were bugging out on the fact that the line to get in was wrapping around the block. There must have been hundreds of people cued up and the was not moving. I was wondering WTF was up. Called a taper buddy who had lined up and was first in the venue and he said that security was so tight as the fire department had complaints of to much smoking going on in doors and this presented a fire hazard. Fuck.....been on line a long time and nothing is moving forward. On line in front of me was a first time "Phan" from Uraguay who attended a schofield class on music. He was told by Schofield to see Phil. Schofield also said He might be sitting in one night soon. This guy from Uraguay was ready to rock and roll but he, like we, were thinking were going to miss 1/2 the first set. I knew that if I stayed put I would miss it so I told my two line mates to sit tight and let me discover why we are in line for 20 minutes and not moving.
I went to the front of the line to discover that the pat down to get in was fairly slow and methodical. I was majorly stressed. A security guard saw my disapointment and asked me what the problm was. Told him I traveled from "abroad" to see these shows and my friend from uraguay was also bumming at the long line. This guy was so cool he said they were trying there best to get all in on time. He said to be patient. He then said to get my friends and bring them up front. He escorted us to the front and we were in. This was major. We made it inside to find the place 1/2 empty. I directed my new Uraguayan buddy to the floor and told him to hang out in the center of the floor about 5 yards in front of Phil. He did. I was hoping to see him at set break but did not. The place was packed!!! I am sure phil blew this guys sox off.
Review to continue.
Wow oh Wow!
The first set was big and mean and awesome,
an hour and 45 minutes ?,
Jackie impressed me also, in a big way,
he was on fire , that Sugaree, and everything he touched , they jammed everything out as long and hard as they could. And the sax player added a beefy sound to some great songs , pig pen in the house last night ???
Larry was spectacular and tight and wailing ! the entire night.
Chest Fever , the sound of that keyboard in the beggining, just leveled the place and Larry shredded it up , HUGE.
MOLO was locked in and loud the entire night!!!
The Keyboard player rocked also!
Adams was again a nice treat, and he let it rock in that second set. Adams jammed on UJB and took it out there.
PHIL showed once again that he is the master,
teasing and going in and out of so many good songs, he was having so much fun and he was having one of his best nights !! Everything was on last night, yeah they teased the Other One a few times ,
China Cat WOW, Franklins WOW, UNCLE JOHNS BAND WOW,
WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW HOLY F***N WOW !!!!!!!!!
THE BEST I KNOW YOU RIDER I EVER HEARD ,
4 Plus hours of Music !
does this mean that there is no cigarette smoking allowed? maybe i can actually go to a show then. i mailordered and was all psyched to go. then i heard that they allow smoking inside the place and had to sell my tix.
It has been confirmed by the upper management of Nokia Theater that smoking was out of hand over the weekend. Therefore, security will crack down if you are caught smoking, however they will tell you to put it away. If you resist, you will get thrown out!!
Also, if you saw a light shining on you during the show, security caught you in the act.
Have fun, be discreet and enjoy the rest of the run!!
Peace to everyone!
That show was why I go to shows.
The first set was the second best set I've seen in the last few years; the second set was the best. That's how good it was.
ok so can someone tell me if there was smoke inside the place last night or not?
were the really cool and loving supposed hippies able to restrain themselves for the benefit of others?
I was at the show last night. The first set rocked!! It sounds great on paper but in my opinion the second set was disoraganized and sloppy playing. Lots of noodle-jams that basically went no-where.
Some folks may like that stuff, but I will take the tight song sets over the jammy-type sets. There were moments but it just seemed the Ryan factor took away from the tightness that I witnessed from this band on Halloween. Just my opinion.
Honestly, while the entire show last night was just astoundingly good, I felt that I preferred the first set to the second. That first set was really as tight and solid playing as you ever see, with Jackie absolutely tearing it up, more confident than he has been in any of the first sets so far. I honestly went into intermission thinking that it was as good a set as I had ever seen any incarnation of PLF play. I can't say that about the second set; it had some spectacular moments and just kept going and going, and I loved it, but I thought (as Spike just said) that there was a lot of noodling, especially into the second verse of Dark Star. And I admit I was f*king tired by midnight and not really in the right state of mind for a Dark Star, and that's my fault.
The other thing that bothers me is something about what happens to Phil with Ryan up there. Phil obviously loves Ryan and as soon as Ryan is out there, all the attention and energy goes to him. Phil literally turns his back on Jackie to encourage Ryan's solos, which are frankly the third-best of the three guitarists up there. I really like Ryan, I don't want to hate on him, but I thought that this band has been developing such great chemistry together, that to turn all of the attention, support, and song-selection duties over to the guest doesn't make sense, and doesn't help the band grow together. Perhaps this over-analysis prevented me from loving the show as much as my comrades up here, whom I envy for how much they loved it last night. Anyway, these are just my thoughts.
As for smoking, you have to remember that it's illegal in New York, and apparently they got their asses fined big time. It ain't the pot they're after, it's the cigs. Can't we just tell the city that we're not smoking deadly cigarettes, just good old-fashioned harmless weed? But yeah, if you're gonna smoke, keep it on the dl, in the middle of the crowd, and joints are better than pipes because you only have to use your lighter once. By the way, is this mule dude for real with the avoiding shows because we hippies smoke too much? I hope he's just blowing smoke up our asses...
i agree, the energy from the 1st set was unreal,and just got better until birdsong when they spaced out...i love jamming and spacing out, but it seemed to wander,and never got the energy again...buta s i said in poz's thread, it ws late, i was tired and theband seemed to be geting tired, especially larry, he looked really tired... but watching phil from about 10 feet away, it was obvious he wanted it that way...he was having so much fun...great show overall, cant wait to see what they play tonight!
nokia secrity somebody went to the show this weekend and complained to the attorney general ,police and venue that there where pot smoking and all type of drugs going on also the theater up stairs complained about the sceence.so there a new policy no strikes and your out.there are under covers so be careful.the secricty are on camera so they have no choice to enforce the rules there not happy about it either.hope this explains what went down
>>> so there a new policy no strikes and your out.>>>
For the record, I saw tons of people getting warnings, didn't see anyone being escorted out.
Thanks for all you reviewers... I am on my way to New York to finish this Marathon!
Security was giving warnings, no throwing people out. I was warned about using my camera phone to record a short clip of UJB, the security guard was direct and harsh about putting it away, but it was just a warning. No prob I told him.
I completely agree with Adam's review above. Set 1 was phenomonal but set 2 was missing something. I was burnt by the end of the night and the dynamic between Phil, Ryan and Jackie made me uncomfortable at times.
For me, set 2 from the previous night was more memorable.
I agree the second set from sat night was better (partially), only from jack on though. I think the problem with last nights second set may of been, believe it or not, that it was too long. I couldnt believe it was close to 1am when it ended!! Honestly I was tired and probably didnt appreciate it as much as I should have? Again I dont know how he has that type of stamina at 67 yrs of age, I hope I do when I get there !
Im trying to get to NY for the sunday show.
Definateling interested in those tickets Doug.
Let me know if you or anyone else has tix.
its more than stamina, he really just likes playing, i was watching him, what a freak, jsut laughing and shouting, and acting like the mad conductor, so animated...but from a fans point of view, the energy peaks and valleys are tough...
the energy level bar was so high during the first set and up through eyes>scarlet>china cat, it had to come down...it jsut seems phil is so raring to go, and the band isnt, and then the music suffers...
but jsut a little, overall it was a great night, jsut a little slow and long at the the end, thats all...
ill remember the energetic fun highlights = golden road, viola and scarlet, china cat...
Best show ive seen all year!
The first set Viola was so off the wall i lost it.
YEAH PHIL!...cant wait for tonight.
...you'd serve us better by taking your badge and chasing down the guys that shot up that poker game over the weekend, and forget about what a few fans of these shows might do in the "immediate Times Square area".
Buzz off! (pun intended)
Don't complain that you can't keep up with Phil. Just because he has 10x more energy than his fans does not mean that 4 hours of music is too much.
who wouldnt get tired after 3 hours of playing?
i thought the second set all the way through ujb was as good, if not better, than the first set. things got a little sidetracked during the dark stars, but i just love the fact that its 1215 in the morning and phil goes into the most jammy song in the deads catalogue. cant fault the guy for trying, jeez.
>ok so can someone tell me if there was smoke inside the place last night or not?
>were the really cool and loving supposed hippies able to restrain themselves for the benefit of others?
If you require a smoke-free or even mostly smoke-free environment, this venue and this crowd is not for you. Not a judgment, just a fact. I'm a huge fan of the NYC smoking ordinance -- and am happy to take the corollary inconvenience of having to refrain from the dank if that is what it comes to -- but this situation is de-facto pre-ordinance and you can't escape it from the minute you open the doors to the theater proper. It is really pretty bad given the relatively low ceiling compared to for example the Beacon.
Great shows, though!
>>> I think the problem with last nights second set may of been, believe it or not, that it was too long. >>>
To me, it just wasn't a Dark Star night. When we first started hearing the teases, Pete and I just kept saying No way, not tonight, it doesn't fit.
back by the mixing board it's not really an issue. matter of fact, not an issue at all as far as I could tell... obviously you could smell it, but in terms of irritating eyes or anything like that - non event.
Phil Z, I'm glad you brought up the Beacon. I was kind of negative on Nokia Theater in another thread, in my opinion that DSO shows last year were a disaster from an over-crowding perspective. having said that, the Thurs/Sat shows I saw last week were much more tolerable...not perfect, but tolerable.
and having said that and that, would we even be having these conversations if this were the Beacon? even after the Dolan's bought the Beacon the Allman Brothers run was no muss, no fuss...maybe even under-securitized. possibly there was a scheduling conflict and Phil couldn't book it but boy I would rather be seeing these shows at the Beacon, or Roseland, as opposed to Nokia.
Dark Star always fits. . .
I can't believe what I'm reading here. All respect to everybody, but those tickets were 55 bones plus service charge. As such, I have some complaints about this incarnation of the band.
Firstly, Jerry and Bob had different guitar tones at different frequencies for a reason. Cambell and Greene are playing effectively the same tone at the same frequency. That's a problem. When you add Ryan Adams into the mix (literally) at the same frequency, it's a wall of noise. Scarlet Begonias with three distorted rock guitars? Come on. I don't think I've ever been so happy to exit a place and hear the relative quiet of Times Square traffic in my life.
Secondly, I would have liked to hear some inspired endings, particularly in the first set. I would not qualify Space after every song as "jamming." I think they don't know the endings well enough, so they default into abstract noodling. That's pretty lazy when you're charging $55 bones for your show. I know Phil has been doing for years, so I guess this is more a personal gripe. But I've heard lots of people make this gripe.
The set list was a great one. But I left thinking that might be the end of my going to see Phil.
No disrespect to anybody, this is just what I took from the experience.
The Nokia is perfectly "fine" and tolerable -- issues of air quality and overcrowding and security and Times Square drunken hype and $3 EIGHT OUNCE water (geez, charge whatever, its Manhattan, but give me the #@&! full-sized bottle!) notwithstanding. It is what it is and I'll suck up even a string of minor inconveniences for the pleasure of these really quite good and even great shows.
But of course ES you are absolutely right that you put these shows at the Beacon and, poof, no more venue problems. One could only speculate that there was a scheduling conflict and/or that the economics of the Nokia for the band are sufficiently compelling... but it isn't because it is a better venue for the fans.
Don't mean to throw any sort of negative spin on the shows, but the venue, eh... not so much.
Regardless, looking forward to this weekend!
...those who do wear the badge would greatly prefer that attendees remain unaware of the security environment they're innocently walking into. I'm just trying to even the playing field.
Although i too prefer the Beacon, I'm always interested in checking out a new scene, and the Nokia surely is different than the Beacon. I'm not disappointed that Phil chose to do a run here. And I wouldn't be un-happy if the next extended NYC run is back home at the Beacon! Or maybe the United Palace even (if you're not familiar with it, check out the photos on their website - Neil is playing shows there next month)
Last night was a good show. I am not going to sit here and say it was the best p+f show ever, but it was very good.
The first set to me was not as good as everyone else here is saying. I thought there was a part in brown eyed woman where to put it plainly they just messed up, i think it was when they went into the, tumble down shack in big foot county. The violo lees were nasty and everything had that jackie/phil and friends blues feel. Which to me is GREAT, but it will never be a top 5 phil and friends show for ME. ITs just to bluesy for me to put it up there with one of the "best ever". Thats totally just my opinion. Dont kill me please!!!!!!
AS you can see from my first set review i am more of a fan of the second set type of music. I was calling for the eyes and the scarlet and bang got it in the first two songs of the second set. The second set was really cool, ryan adams who i am not a fan of really did some great work on the guitar. To me there where a couple of points last night where i said wow, ryan is really mixing in very well. I thought during the ripple, uncle johns and dark star that the band had a very early 70ish dead sound going. There was even a point during ripple where jackies acoustic guitar was mixing so well with larrys mandolin that i was speechless. I also have to say that the franklins was smoking. And Ryan had a HUGE mess up during i know you rider, which to me is hard to mess up, unless you just dont know the song. But hey they made up for it by playing for another hour after that.
"Too late" come on i was praying for more. I live in new york city and it takes me 25 mins to get home via subway....so the 1:00 end time was not a problem at all for me. I guess if i had to get in a car and drive home or had to get and take a lirr train i may be humming a diffrent tune this afternoon.
Overall good show. Some highpoints and some low points. I thought eyes was tight and i felt that phil was teasing china cat during scarlet. The franklins to me was really good and smoking, LC turned it up a notch. Also phil seemed to be teasing The other one, Dark star and Wharf rat in the last few songs of the evening. So by the time the encore came around you knew it was going to be Wharf rat. And it was great.
Great show...i would say see you tonight, but my buddy just offered me a ranger/islander ticket. AS natalia imbruglia said i am "torn". I have seen 3 of the nokia and glen falls and i am really thinking about going to this game and taking a break from phil. Watch my rangers beat up on the islanders or go watch phil drop some bombs?? Argghhh.....I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
Darkstar1989 - Go see the Rangers and sell me your tix for tonite.
Potvin Sucks !!
"so the 1:00 end time was not a problem at all for me. I guess if i had to get in a car and drive home or had to get and take a lirr train i may be humming a diffrent tune this afternoon."
That really is the essence of if for me last night, although I enjoyed the show, the 1:38 LIRR train got me home at 3am., I'm hurting today.
>Best show ive seen all year!
The first set Viola was so off the wall i lost it.
YEAH PHIL!...cant wait for tonight.<
Well.......This show is gonna be tough to top. Which is why I want to go again and again because I gota be there if it happens.
i gotcha man, and i agree if i had to drive an hour home, i would have been very tired this morning....well i dont have tix for tonight....but i told my friend "no" to the rangers game.....I just cant get enough phil right now, the guy is 67 and i am going to go watch the rangers play the islanders...i just cant do it...i would be wondering what the setlist was all night long, and if there was a special guest. Hey i know its not 77 type stuff but i cant get enough.
...the language you were using seemed so official and seeing as how it was your first post, along with the "blue light" reference, it didn't seem like too much of a leap to assume you were exerting some "official" influence.
having said that, if your intent was truly a shout out to "level" the playing field, thx. I would hope this crowd wouldn't need it but you never know.
concur on your Beacon/Nokia evaluation.
something is going on here as Dark Star are also doing their second stint at Nokia during Thxgvg. there's some connection but I don't know what it is.
Dolan's have kind of screwed up the vending at Beacon, and ushered out all the good/long-time ushers, but it's still a much better environment inside for fans, I think.
whadya do...? show up, hope for the best, and find Shane because she'll pour you a stiff Jack that's still not worth $9 - but she's doing her best to get as close as she can!
thank you phil z for an honest answer to my question, finally. i guess i can't go in to the nokia. too bad for me that the heads in ny can't be more like the bay area types who go to the warfield, where the zeitgeist goes: herb is ok, cigs outside.
oh well, have a good show everybody.
cigs @ the greek were overwhelmingly obnoxious...
Was there NO2 craziness again tonight like after Saturday's show? I couldn't believe what I was seeing in the middle of NYC. Guys running back and forth with tanks.
yeah i saw a few, so weird cause the tanks i saw are so small, i didnt know waht it was at first...jsut weird
I am not gonna do a blow by blow review. I Simply will say that this show was "THE TOTAL PACKAGE". Great song selection, great energy, great pace, incredible efforts by all the band and above all great playing. With out splitting hairs I would easily rate this show in my top 10 of P$F.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERFORMANCE I WAS HOPING FOR ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT!
Gotta say, I think it was highly mediocre. On paper the setlist was pretty amazing, but I think the band might need to learn the tunes a bit better. I'm pretty sure both guitar players had a copy of the grateful dead anthology in front of them and were just rolling the chords. Fine Jerry's not there, and this is a different band, but there was absolutely no lead work during the verses, just chords. Places like the end of Scarlet and the end of Uncle John's where you'd expect them to remain true to the song, and hit the signature riff, there was only chaos. Sugaree featured one of the worst guitar solos I've ever heard. I could go on.
Fine there was "energy" there, but only as defined by volume modulation. You'd think by having more of a full-time band, they'd work some stuff out and change some things around a bit, but to me this was all pretty JV. DSO blows this incarnation of Phil and Friends away, and that's sad.
good points about the same tone, and above no leads in this band...i kept thinking SOMEONE SOLO...particle dude seemed afraid and had to look for aproval and larry never does, he seemed out of it, and jackie seems to be able, but doesnt...but thats ok i still loved it, but its jsut not was once was, and those who've seen the Q know this other potential waiting, but this band is a rythm band i guess, different and soulful but not jammy,still so much fun overall, i never think of these things during the show, but after i do...and DSO is really great, but not better, like comparing apples and oranges, differnt things...like im seeing RRE soon, they arent better, just differnt...
are the nokia shows going to be available is what i want to know!
THE BEST I KNOW YOU RIDER I EVER HEARD ,
ABsolutely, for sure!!!!
come on fingers, first off as we all know Phil like to change up the "Friends" almost every tour, so i would not call it a "full-time band"..then saying DSO blows Phil away actually makes me laugh...you can not compare the 2...while DSO is great at what they do, who would they be if it were not for the likes of Phil?
I personally think this band has come together quite nicely and brings "it" every nite.
Right on Ben, to Say DSO blows Phils latest band away is completly misguided. DSO is for all intents and purposes a cover band, Phil is reinventing THE music, that he HAD A SUBSTANTIAL PART IN ACTUALLY CREATING ! DSO is loads of fun, but Phil (and the rest of GD) created it all for them. And to top it all off, these shows have actually "blown" me away with Phil's intensity, enthusiasm and quality of music. I would pay double the 55 ticket, or even more, the music is that good!
"No smoking of cigs I can understand, as they bust you for that here in San Francisco at the Warfeild and Fillmore (not the BG Civic though). However, to bust people at a Phil or Mule, etc show for smoking good ole" weed, is an outrage! Especially considering the rediculous pricesfor water, beer, Fuckin RIP OFF SERVICE CHARGE ! Do they bust people at the Beacon ? (haven't been there in 5 years)
I guess I'm really even happier now that I live in beautiful, foggy San Francisco, where we can "do what we want" at shows Can't wait for the Warfeild Show !!! PHIL , please rock more at the Warfield than you did at the Greek !! C U all soon
Funny to hear complaints about a $55.00 ticket for a four hour show! Damn, I would have killed for a 4 hr Dead show back when I started seeing them in the mid/late 80s. Always something to complain about I guess.
thats true, but i was in my 20s then, im 42 now,and it just seemed to go too far IMO, i know you want it to go all night, but not lame or sloppily...the show was so great overall...first set and most of second was unreal, it seemed to me the band wanted to end but phil was so reved up he kept pushing it...he had more energy than the band and msot of the crowd..he is a music junkie, unreal what phil brings as far as energy, no one else like him...
top two moments were the viola thread 3xs, and the eyes>scarlet>china...unreal power!
I absolutely agree that without phil there's no DSO. I also understand that they're a cover band. Can you really say that phil and friends isn't at this point? Certainly they aren't the dead. I love phil, but there comes a point when you have to be honest about what you're listening to.
You cant "cover" songs you actually created. And who said that they were the "dead"? It's Phil and Friends and it's a great mix of improvisation, GD classics and guest tunes. If you want to here the grateful dead every night punch up archive and pick a show, they are there for the listening.
hey man, I'm only bitchin' because I care. Just wish they were better that's all.
How about as good as some of the previous incarnations of Phil and Friends for starters.
fingers, you're C-R-A-Z-Y
This is all I gotta say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYXm0Mpits
ah Jerry, no one could ever replace him bro, no one....dont get me wrong back in '00-'03 the "Q" rocked my world, but just like good ole' Jer, i dont think there will be another incantation of P&F like the "Q", so in my humble opinion, i will take my Phil in any way shape or form, and LOVE every min of it, good, bad, or ugly....
Some people just want to come to these forums and bitch about how bad this is, or how bad this guy is, really it is just ridiculous. The dude makes the statement "Certainly they aren't the dead"; jeez jerry died in 1995, are you really expecting to go to a Phil and Friends show and see the Dead? Just appreciate Phil for what it is and stop bitching.
I got this on Bill Oreilly tonight. The folks at Disneys Lion King show complained because they could smell the sweet nectar of herb in their venue, People were there with their kids and such. When Phil intros the band on this night he says something about the lion king and say the real lion king is here, Jonh Molo.