Mickey has gone on record declaring no repeats. Two nights left. Unbroken Chain, Viola Lee, Star, Help-Slip-Tower, China-Rider, Eyes, HTH, New Potato, HCS, Watchtower, Terrapin and its parts, all up for the next two nights.

Any favorites?

Morning Dew

free Dupree!!!

Crazy Fingers & Hard To Handle!!

Imagine this on the rocks

Jack A Roe
Bobby McGhee
Loose Lucy
B.T. Wind
Althea
Might As Well

Help>Doin That Rag>
Slipknot>DarkStar
D>S>
Wharf Rat
Dark Star
Morning Dew
US Blues

e: Slipknot > Franklins

Set 1, 7/10/03
HC Sunshine. Help--Slip; Down the Road; Hard to Handle; T, Jed; Broken Arrow; Dark Star v1; Bertha

Set 2, 7/10/03
Blackbird Minglewood; Eyes..D/S..China Doll..The Wheel..Dark Star v2..Liberty..> Encore: Franklin's

If the post above is real, the poster must be someone who has access to pre-show setlists because the first set was just posted on dead.net (and is identical) and the second set is just about to begin according to my watch (9:04 PDT/10:04 MST).

i know, and i wish that it would have been posted as a spoiler, just so that we could choose to read or not

i hope some fucking bastard didnt just post the set before they played it. asshole.

Someone just posted on Dead.net that the Ratdog sound guy tried to sell them the setlist for $50 pre show at Louisville. If that's true, that idiot should be fired.

at frost last summer, i was up front and could have seen a setlist with binoculars, but didn't want to spoil the show.

that ratdog soundguy should be strung up for that!

you know, as much as I HATE sitting here waiting for the first set to post (11:40 est, 9:40 cst) it's worth the effin wait...then i sleep, and 1st thing in the am I check the 2nd set, if I get to bed before 2nd set posts...Balzac, maybe you thought posting the set would help, maybe you're new or something, but dude - if that turns out to be real, an apology would be appreciated.

Are you guys at the show?
What could you possibly care if you know the set before hand if youre not there?

set 1 soon

Set2.

Blackbird>
MInglewood>
Eyes>
DS Tease>
Drums>
Space>
China Doll>
Jam>
Wheel>
Dark Star v.2>
Throwing Stones>
Franklin's Tower

Enc: Knockin On Heavens' Door

Actually ..

Set2.

Blackbird>
MInglewood>
Eyes>
DS Tease>
Drums>
Space>
China Doll>
Jam>
Wheel>
Dark Star v.2>
Throwing Stones>
Franklin's Tower

Enc: Loose Lucy

as of last report that is ...

I dunno. kind of a novel concept, knowing the setlist before they play it. certainly some advantages: get a head start on the bathroom line during a less-favorite song, not run back to the seats when the set is going to start with drums, know when to blow off the encore at a weeknight show.

it does kind of spoil making calls of particular songs and dispels with the mystery, but...as long as no one is forcing it down your throat, why not?

I remember going to see Neil Young doing a couple warm-up shows for his european tour at the Warfield, and he played the exact same set both nights. the second night, after a half dozen beers, one of my buddies took enormous pleasure in yelling out the songs before they were played.

well, looks good to me! a friend told me about this site at red rocks.... i had no idea it was so cool! the chat was fun too!

thanks!

"after a half dozen beers, one of my buddies took enormous pleasure in yelling out the songs before they were played."

haha i can almost see how this would be funny as heck , the beers make it forgivable , cause it was only half a dozen so you know hes a lightweight :P

admittedly, it was kind of obnoxious, but the intent was to get Neil to play some different songs, rather than make us sit through the exact same show after paying another $40 in the hopes of seeing all the songs he didn't play the night before.

Damon and Zan.
It is late after the show.
Wish you were.

Does anyone have an opinion of the show???

The setlist being posted at 10:30 ET I thought was kind of strange. I figured someone got their hands on the set list. In Mansfield, the guy in front of me got it from someone at the board. They handed it right to him. It was almost song for song. A couple of songs were switched around. A couple were not played. Basically though, the list was right.

Phil site has Knockin as the encore.

Is this show not going to be streamed like the first 3 shows were?

So- after the last four shows, what is left for tonight? Thoughts? Any susbtance to the Dylan rumor aside from the fact that he's off tonight, has a show tomorrow night in Winter Park, and seems like a good chance for rehearsal?

thanks!

quinn, hope you guys had a great show! setlist loooks outstandin'. i knew they would play those songs the first show i missed! damn.

This thread is surreal. And vaguely disturbing.

Reviews?

That set list is close, but not entirely accurate.

Help-Slip-Here Comes Sunshine-Hard to Handle to open the show was the most smokin' show opener I've seen in 30 years! I couldn't help thinking how way out it was for the show opener.

Down the Road Again, Tennessee Jed and Broken Arrow were much less intense but after that opener I was feeling like I needed to sit down for a little bit.

Dark Star - Bertha to close the first set! I was hoping for a hot China-Rider, which is up and very Colorado ("cool Colorado rain") but who's going to get upset about Star in the first set!

So, they couldn't maintain the pace they opened with, but that's probably all the better for our survival it was so hot. Second set to follow.

Second set starts with Bobby on solo acoustic playing Blackbird and the band assembles and starts jamming electric. Minglewood is a sub-optimal song choice for me, I would much rather have seen a Lazy Lightnin' or Ballad of a Thin Man or something, but it wasn't too bad, fast pace for Jimmy to wail. Good jam into Eyes, then a solid Dark Star tease before drums.

After drums, Joan belts out a solid China Doll. We were all hoping for a Dew in that slot but it could have been a lot worse. Wheel next which was also up in the rotation. Fairly standard, nothing completely 'blow away' about that one.
Great 'melt down' jam out of the Wheel, into Star second verse, into more 'melt down' jams. Actually, at this point it turned into more of a 'disintegration' jam, losing all semblance of any structure, very hot.

Throwing Stones was quite a disappointment after the lineup so far. I was never enamoured with that song, even in 82. There's so much great material other than that song, for me personally.

But, the transition into Franklin's was the smoothest and tightest I had seen yet. And, Help-Slip to open with Franklin's to close for bookends was very special. Jimmy really lit it up during Franklin's.

Loose Lucy to close, very tight, very hot.

Bordeaux1789 is close, but not entirely correct. That post is also presumably 7:30PM Denver time and I don't believe that there is wireless access at that venue, so none of us saw that post. Also, they must be preloading the set as there are a lot of sheets of paper on the ground in front of Joan with they lyrics, first and second set.

Despite the fact that they are pre-structuring the set, they are jamming very nicely now and you wouldn't know that they've already called the songs. They are very effective at keeping the audience in suspense and faking like they don't know what's coming next. There is a major difference, though, without Jerry, as I stated on the 7-8 posting.

Jerry had a number of issues he was dealing with that would influence his song selections. Was he in a good mood or a bad mood? What was he high on? Too high? Not high enough? Good stuff? Bad stuff? Looking in his face, you could tell. He was also a leader in that he would launch into songs with a great guitar hook. None of that now and it is a big hole. But, the music is stil great and it's a great time just the same.

Overall, though, there were better transitions than any other night, especially the Throwing Stones into Franklin's.

BTW, you all know that the old Dead played structured set lists too, right? Listen to a high quality soundboard of 7/1/85 at Merriweather and you can hear Jerry and Bobby call the song list up to drums. There's also a Hornsby CNN interview video floating around from 90 or 91 at MSG where he goes on record saying the band chose first set songs on the fly, but pre-determined second sets once before they went out up to drums, then during drums from there to the end.

As for tonite, Unbroken Chain, Viola Lee, Dew, China-Rider, New Potato, Watchtower, Terrapin and its parts, Born Cross Eyed, all up. If they can maintain this pace, they would have three consecutive blow away shows, which would be quite unprecedented since about 77. This is the last show before a mini-break so maybe they can pull it off. It would be very intense.

>>>Damon and Zan. It is late after the show.
Wish you were.

Wish I was what...there? Sure. I knew last night would be the biggy. How was it? How was drums? Did mickey karate chop the beam or did he ride it like a surfer rides a wave?

Didn't see Mickey. I was sitting down and couldn't see through the crowd, although from the low rumbling, you know he was going totally nuts. It was almost subsonic and you felt it in your feet.

Question is whether or not they peaked last night or can they pull it off again??!!

dewitt honey where did you get knockin from? the encore was loose lucy. whoever is in charge of posting the official list needs to change that please. the people are being mis informed

Always thought the Hornsby interview was based on the fact that they had two "new" guys in the band. I do agree on the predetermined setlists in the 80's, if you listen carefully on the "So Far" video, you can hear Bobby and Jerry decide which form of transition for the Playin>UJB (listen through the opening hiss and static, pretty funny). All in all though, most sets were cut right then and there, and I figure with amount of "new" members of the band, it's best to provide a map for the ship.

Weirhigh - I know what we all want to believe, but I think there was much more of that than we ever wanted to admit to ourselves. There was no new guy in 85 and Jerry calling out the song list is undeniable.

I, for one, bought it hook line and sinker. I thought they made it all up real time. I thought things would change when I learned that they pre-scripted the set, but it didn't change all that much. And even this tour, knowing that they have pre-determined the set a little....like I said, they fake it like they don't know what they're doing real well...so what the heck.

It still beats seeing the same set night after night.

All in all, I'm happy to be duped.

Best night of the run so far

mickey did no beam humping or karate chopping

however, he did roll that metal cylinder all the way down the beam, some crazy balancing act shit

real good show, They jammed a lot
jimmy was huge last night----huge
every thing he touched, was on fire

so far my votes go as

sunday--- good
monday---- awesome
tuesday---- awesome list,but not as good as monday
thursday----- best night so far
Friday----- huge expectations

Tonite they will play----

Unbroken chain, china>rider, viola lee, golden road, new potato, morning dew, NFA,watchtower, and terrapin station, maybe a midnight hour, but those are the break outs for tonite

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO

and hopefully a wharf rat and a smokestack lightning



Easy Wind--- Rolling across the bayou Today

J

Can somebody with some sense please implore Phil to stop singing! I listened to the Cold Rain from Red Rocks and was mortified and frightened. Can anyone argue that Phil is clearly the worst singer in the band (Mickey excepted)? Yes, I agree, it was cute when Phil sang one or two songs on a tour and people called out "Let Phil sing" but come on, it was a joke. Sort of like your drunk uncle singing at the family reunion, funny, but extremely embarrassing. I'll even take Rob over Phil. It can't be just ego that compels him to sing, can it? Is it not enough to be the locomotive that drives the rhythm section? Guy is an amazing bass player so why divert people's appreciation for that talent with horrendous singing. In all honesty, Phil's singing is painful for me. Phil, please stop scaring us!. p.s. you are one of the greatest bass players on earth!

Tuesday after New Speedway it sounded like a Smokestack jam. How awesome would that have been...Acoustic Friend-1/2 step-new speedway-smokestack to open the show.

Still, yesterday's open was one of the best I'd ever seen. If it wasn't for the Mickey song and Broken Arrow, it might have been the best first set lineup, ever. If the Mickey song was Viola Lee and Broken Arrow was Unbroken Chain, that set would live forever.

Lucidmus - It is truly painful. We can only be thankful that Phil doesn't sing solo that much anymore and Joan's harmonizing dilutes him. But, with Mickey's vocals, things have hit a new low. And with Mickey, you KNOW it's an ego thing. They've go Joan now and they need to let her take over a little more. They'll get there.

>Tuesday after New Speedway it sounded like a Smokestack jam

I heard that as well...it will be interesting to listen to it on disc.

As far as phil singing...doesn't bother me at all with the exception of the bird song. I thought cold rain was fine.

Perhaps tonight you will get the second half of bird song...

Joan helps but Phil hurts her so it's sort of a wash. His singing is so off, and dominant at the same time, that it seems she is often following him to the wrong places.

Last night's show was a Phil & Friends gig in Dead clothing.

Besides the great setlist, there were wild exploratory jams throughout the show. Felt like a second set all night long. Help > Slip sent us all soaring out of the gate. I was a little disappointed that we didn't get the Franklin's in its customary spot. But that was quickly forgotten when Barraco sang what I believe was his first lead vocal of the tour in HCS. Hard to Handle would have been better had Bobby not screwed up the vocals. Bad timing and poor delivery. They should have let Joan handle this one by herself instead of as a duet. Broken Arrow was beautiful except for some poorly place Bobby screech guitar over the top of Jimmy's fluid lead. The jam out of Broken Arrow was unbelievable. They left the song structure way behind and played a wonderfully syncopated space full of flurries from Phil and Jimmy. The first set Dark Star was surprising and very satisfying. A smoking Bertha to end the set.

The second set started with a solo Blackbird by Bobby followed by a standard Minglewood. The Eyes of the World was eagerly anticipated and very satisfying Joan's vocals caused this song to just about return to its former glory. Then we were thrown back in a heavy space chock with a Dark Star tease/jam and I believe a HCS jam (although that might have been later). The drums were short and sweet and included a thundering beam segment. Then, back into the stratosphere for a long and lilting space. No one plays in space like the Dead/Phil! China Doll was stupendous, played slow and confidently. Joan absolutely nailed this one. Back into another long spacey jam that landed in a rollicking Wheel. Then back into Dark Star and more wild exploration. Throwing Stones was a bit of a let down, but Bobby needs a little cheese now and then. I was glad they chose to end with the Franklin's bookend rather than the Not Fade Away I was expecting. Phil was very excited when he came out for the donor rap. He knew this night was something special. The Loose Lucy encore came out of left field was rollicking. Thank you for a real good time!

The band all came out for bow for the second? night in a row. On the way out of the venue I saw Phil driving away in a van blowing kisses to the crowd. Definitely a night for the ages. This run is already legendary, but I expect them to blow the place up tonight.

Jimmy's lead in China Doll will go down as one of my favorite show moments ever. Simply stellar. Also, the "Diamonds" vocal refrain at end of Dark Star....whooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaa.

This is turning out to be an epic run.

Could someone please post the lyrics to "Down the Road Again." I thought the mention of Jerry's name might have been the driving factor behind the exchange of energy between band and crowd last night.

Can't wait for tonight!

Good reveiw Sully, right on. I happen to like the second set space jamming stuff and this night was supreme. Not quite P&F without Warren, but very jammed out, more than the old Dead (after 74 anyway).

Totally agree on Throwing Stones and I forgot about the HCS jam. At the time they had laid down the opening bookend from Help-Slip and Star so I was wondering if they would bookend HCS too. That would have been HUGE.

If they can maintain this level tonite, this three show (from Tuesday on) run will rank with the best.

Here Ya Down the road to Union Station running through the fog
I thought I saw Joe Hill last night grinning like a dog
"I understand they did you in for everyone to see"
He smiled - shook his head - "that's a lie," said he
"I been on a mountain top observing from a cloud
Been in the hearts of workers milling with the crowd
My tears are shed for freedom and equality of means
My blood and perspiration oil the gears of your machine"

Chorus
Down the road again
Down the road again

Down the road to Massachusetts driving through the night
I thought I saw Jack Kennedy hitchhiking by a light
I hit the brakes - backed up slow, and Kennedy got in
I said, "It's nice to see you lookin' back in shape again
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they gunned you down"
He just shook his head and looked off sadly with a frown
Said, "bullets are like waves, they only rearrange the sand
History turns upon the tides and not the deeds of man"

[chorus]

Driving down to Fiddler's Green to hear a tune or two
I thought I saw John Lennon there, looking kind of blue
I sat down beside him, said "I thought you bought the store"
He said "I heard that rumour, what can I do you for?"
"Have you written anything I might have never heard?"
He picked up his guitar and strummed a minor third
All I can recall of what he sang, for what it's worth
"Long as songs of mine are sung I'm with you on this earth"

[chorus]

From the corner of my eye I saw the sun explode
I didn't look directly 'cause it would have burned my soul
When the smoke and thunder cleared enough to look around
I heard a sweet guitar lick, an old familiar sound
I heard a laugh I recognised come rolling from the earth
Saw it rise into the skies like lightning giving birth
It sounded like Garcia but I couldn't see the face
Just the beard and the glass and a smile on empty space

[chorus]

PS:I agree with the comments on Phil's singing,which leads me to this question,who would you rather hear sing Fire,Phil or Mickey ?? Both are terrible in my opinion,especially after that first P&F Fire I heard in 99 at the Rocks.

I meant here ya go Ted..........

fuck

am i the only one who loves phils singing?

and for the love of god...does anyone know if
they played the first or second verse of bird song on sunday?

Nice points, Lando.

I was utterly confused and thoroughly impressed that Balzac had basically called the whole first set. Then I realized that was impossible.

I agree it's disappointing to discover that the shows are scripted, but when one stops to consider it, it makes complete sense. But it's still kinda like finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist.

Hopefully these guys will get to the point where they can agree on a structure but be willing able to do a 180 on the fly. For me, those were some of the GD's greatest moments. The first one coming to mind being Bruce forcing the band into Victim between Scarlet - Fire at Shoreline in 91. The ensuing chaos worth the price of admission alone...

Gotta love that chaos. It's what brings the true heads back.

Phil or Mickey on Fire......ouch, that's a tough one. Anything but Mickey. Joan on Fire?

I believe that Bird Song on Sunday was first verse only.

"Joan on Fire..." didn't realize it came out like that. She was truly on fire during Mr. Charlie Tuesday night. I think she has a lower voice than anyone who has ever done their vocals, including Pig.

Phil's voice is fucking awsome

Oh yeah, one other thing....after Tuesday night I posted that Bobby was playing a metal, hollow body Gibson. Last night I was a bit closer and noticed that it is not metal but blue finish on the body. There are two black inserts that look like lightning bolts that, at first glance Tuesday night, looked like cutouts in the body. Looks like a custom PRS.

Also, Jimmy was playing much more of a twangy, country tone for Bertha. It sounded like he had the switch to the back for the bridge pickups but couldn't see it. I thought he plays middle pickups only.

Hey Adam,gimme some of what your having if it makes Phil's voice "awesome",LOL !!!

I vaguely remember that HCS jam, can anyone confirm where that was placed in the set?

I think the HCS jam was after Eyes, in the melt down that also included the Star tease.

HCS jam came out of Broked Arrow into Dark Star v.1.

GREAT hearing Rob sing on HCS!

I thought the Loose Lucy encore kicked butt!

In all show was great fun! Best so far.

Leaving for night 5.....

I LIKE it when Phil sings. So what if he's not perfect. He's not awful,.come on.

And yes I am kicking myself for not changing my flight and getting tickets for last night and tonight. Duh.

Jones Beach will have to suffice.

>>>And yes I am kicking myself for not changing my flight and getting tickets for last night and tonight. Duh.

Tell me about it!!! I missed my Tuesday flight and was able to stay for that show. Wondering why I didn't just stay til the weekend and catch the last 2!!!! Oh, well Jones Beach up next!

>>>Wondering why I didn't just stay til the weekend and catch the last 2!!!!

my thoughts exactly scarlet. it was so hard to get on the plane on wednesday. i knew i was going to miss something special. should've just done it all but i'm happy i at least got to do the first 3 nights.

i'm still taking answers on what verse of bird song was done on sunday. its gonna drive me crazy til i hear the show for myself b/c i swear it was the 2nd.

Of the 4 RR shows so far I liked the set list last night the best. Still think that Monday was the best show and although I have enjoyed Joan, last night I thought that Eyes and Wheel were both down possibly due to her vocals. Wheel can be such a rockin tune and it was tame last night. RB finally gome some time on the mic as well. Lookin' forward to tonights show, maybe a visit from Dylan... WoooooooHOOOOOOO! See ya in November at the Filmore!!!

Oh yeah - the sound check.

The band soundchecked Hard To Handle, Tenn Jed, Down the Road Again, and Liberty.

anybody know if or when this show will be up on live365? home page is still linking to 7/8 show. who's responsible for that?

i wanna hear!
i wanna hear!

They did the first verse of Bird Song on Sunday.

Phil's voice is ok, in a highly controlled environment, like a studio. His lead vocals on Unbroken Chain on Mars Hotel is fine. And, when compared to Jerry and Bobby (notice NOT Mickey), he was ok, novel and different. A lot of the call for Phil to sing in the late 80's and 90's was because of his song selection - Box, Tom Thumb, hoping for Unbroken Chain or Pride of Cucamonga.

Joan's vocals bring expectations to a whole new level. Now, Phil doesn't stack up anymore. They'd be better off with Warren trading off with Joan.

Also, no one's mentioned the Bobby-Joan vocal jam they did the last two shows. Something different....

It looks like Throwing Stones could have been worse, could have been Liberty or Eternity or something like that.

thanks for responding frankl. not sure why i kept thinking it was the second verse. maybe i was just disappointed that it wasn't complete.

Again, the question is "why is Phil so compelled to sing?". Don't tell me "he's an original member so he has a right". He wasn't singing as much when Jerry was alive. I doubt that if Jerry were still alive that Phil would be singing much more than his staples. That's what made it a fun novelty. There are other singers who are better.

Maybe it's a carry over from P&F when it was 'his band'. Anyone know what Billy's voice sounds like?

I'll take my chances with Billy. Couldn't get any worse. (I may live to regret those words).

I am a veteran of many dead shows, PLQ and post
Jerry Dead. My question is: why are they not utilizing
rob's voice on lead vocals? clearly he demonstrated with PLQ his ability to get to the heart of the music.
I'm all for Bob singing a lot of the Jerry tunes but not every one. Joan is great but singing Casey Jones and
Crazy fingers she sounds like a woman trying to sing like a man. Let rob sing. gcarr

Does Rob trade lines in Jack Straw with "The Dead?"

I think Phil has a cool voice and I'm glad he sings a few songs. I wish Bobby would give it a rest on the Jerry songs, especially Scarlet, Help, China Cat, and Shakedown. He completely hacks these songs vocally! Please give these songs to Rob or Joan!!! Both are blessed with great voices..Let them use them. Besides doesn't Bobby have about 100 of his own songs? My .02.

Free Rob!!!

Bobby Cheese, Bobby Cheese, please give me some more Bobby Cheese.

I'm the typical TouchHead but that Throwing Stones was the highlight of the show for me. The lyrics always opitimized what it meant to be a Dead Head for me. Hearing that song at Red Rocks with the great crowd interaction just blew me away.

A few minor miscues here and there but over all the show rocked. Finally getting to see all the boys together in my home town was fantastic.

Where's all the raves? This had to be the best show of the tour.

A flawless, perfectly constructed symphony from start to finish. There wasn't a single lull in this entire show. The band was puntucal and energetic, but most of all, confident. I think the turning point was when Mickey sang! Yes. In down the road again, there is a line about Garcia, and the crowd went crazy. From there it just got tighter and hotter, and they never let up. We wouldn't let them....the shared consciousness/energy between band and audience had never been so apparant to me.

This seemed to be a show designed and orchestrated by Phil. Not sure the set list matters much....as Minglewood and Throwing Stones were huge highlights. Jimmy's solo (s) in China Doll were sublime. I remember my friend telling me that Eyes couldn't have been played any better.

This show, like PLQs final show at Rocks last year, placed a big emphasis on vocals..... ie the a capella "nightfall of diamonds" outro of Dark Star, audience singing "ashes to ashes, and delicious four part harmonies on Broken Arrow. Also, listen to Boracco goiing berzerk on the organ at the end of China Doll.

I find the set list wish lists to be a little hoaky and emberassing. To sit down and bum because they played stones instead of dew...they had their hooks in me so deep I didn't have time to question anything.

If you don't like Phil's singing, follow Phish. This is his band (partly) and his web site. He's a baritone, not a tenor. And he sings Terrapin and UBC with so much passion, wisdom and emotion it makes my knees wiggle every time.

This is what we live for.....get the tapes!


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What does Phish have to do with The Grateful Dead or any of its incarnations? I've seen Phish and don't really get the connection. Hokey lyrics, pyrotechnic musicianship. This is not like the Dead at all to me. I guess the jams can take on some of the improvisational tones of the Dead experience but that's about it. As far as this being Phil's band (even partly), wasn't it always? Even when Jerry was with us? Again, I don't remember Phil singing so much back in those days. So, why now? I'm sure that if he was such a good singer his magical voice would have been appreciated by Jerry and the other members and he would have been implored to write and sing more back then.

Phil started singing because, guess what? Jerry died, and they lost a lead vocalist. With the GD, Phil didn't need to be a frontman, but that changed when he started Phil and Friends. He built up quite a nice following with that band generally handling 1/3 of the lead vocals for five years. The alternative would be for bobby and joan to sing ALL of the songs. But the bottom line is it's not our decision, not our business...it's their band, no matter how many nasty threads people post about who should be "allowed" to sing. The nerve. He put 30 years of his life into these songs; he can sing them whenever he damnwell pleases. (don't forget, those are Phil's harmonies all over working mans, am beauty, etc.)

In other words, you have a choice...if you don't like this band, follow another one, ie Phish!

Okay, Julius, I read your threads more thoroughly, maybe this will help.

When Phil got out of the hopital (doctors brought his wife at 3 different times to "say goodbye") he decided he wasn't done with the music. It "needed to be reinterpreted in different ways." At this point, he must have decided he WANTED to sing lead on certain songs that fit his range or held a lyrical attachment to him.(bird song, black peter) In those early shows, it was apparent how much he enjoyed singing. And still does. And the fact that P&F was able to sell out Red Rocks and other big sheds is testament that many people like this band.P&F had as much if not more success than any of the post dead groups, it makes sense that they would carry on some of the characteristics of that band, and the treatment they gave the tunes.

Why Boracco doesn't sing more is a mystery to us all. But Rob's P&F songs have all been taken over by Weir, not Phil.

Againandagain that's priceless - "In other words, you have a choice...if you don't like this band, follow another one, ie Phish!" Gotta love it....

I just got back home to alabama from seeing the dead and a short road trip in colorado. I will spare you the song by song detail. I have seen the dead 400+ times with jerry from 81-95 and let me tell you that thursday and friday night felt like a grateful bomb exploded inside of red rocks. From the long hike up, to the sitting in the sun just waiting on 6pm to roll around. The lot was ok met some really nice people and some old lost friends from early 90s tour was pretty crazy. highlight from the lot (fractile) all i will say on that. Let me just say the joan singing stella made me and girlfriend cry was so sweet that words can not put this into perspective if you were there you know what i mean. MICKEY dropped bombs inside of the rocks as his surgical mask lowered upon his face you could hear and phill the vibration pounding inside your heart was so crazy. I thought that the crowd intensity was awesome everyone was shakin down adults,kids, everyone.
After the show friday night drove to colorado springs and went to the garden of the gods and climbed on top of a huge rock and laid on our backs till the sun rose was a very intense friday night into saturday. Then went to pikes peak 14110 feet and watched the sun set and passed out at the swiss chalet (shit hole) motel in old colorado springs haha. The love was definently there at red rocks suggestion if you go to the shows give them all your love I mean all of it. We did at the rocks and they gave it back i am telling you this was awesome you could almost smell the love it was intense. These guys have got there shit together and let me say joan I LOVE YOU. She knows whos songs shes singing and definently puts all her heart and soul into it. It is almost as if for brief moments you can feel jerry singing thru her. Was very awesome all I can say is thank you phil,bob,billy,mickey,joan, and jimmy I am grateful for it all. I will see you all in atlanta I hope.

D-Lando,yup you gotta love it,the philzone police always telling people what to do if they don't like someone's opinion.I guess freedom of expression is dead here also,just like in our american culture and society.I thought "deadheads",and I use the term loosely,were above that.Half the people yammering and telling people what to do probably never seen the Dead when Jerry was with us,so let me ask you this,what do you have to reference with then and now??I know the answer,but I'll let you answer that yourself,honestly or dishonestly.Let the words be yours,I'm done with mine!!

Well, I'm done with my first leg of the tour and Thursday night was epic. The best show I've ever seen. I saw 14 shows this tour and if there is one you are thinking about buying on disc, Thursday at the rocks is the one. No words can describe the awesome journey that was Thursday night. That's about all I have to say reguarding this show. I won't give details, just give it a listen and you will get shone the light. Peace.

Zeusmon...yah mon...i defnitly 'gree wit u bout Thursday@RedRocks#4 (7/10/2003) bein dah shite...ur descripshun o' "epic" jus begins tah scratch tha surfisss...yowza, yowza, yowza...wahtta shewwww, huh?...az u furthur puttit..."The best show I've [Zeus] ever seen"""...whoa!!!...yah mon...i reeeleee tink u gottit mon...nice...n' i liks ur shewww o' entrepreneurship talints...weir u goes..."if there is one you are thinking about buying on disc, Thursday [RRox#4, 7/10/2003] at the rocks is the one"...u r truleee gifftid inntha muzic afficionaddo deeepahtmint...nice eeeah mon!...eye lahks ur style...u furthur sez..."No words can describe the awesome journey that was Thursday night"...well, ur wirds werrr ah gud staht...n dats all'eyev gots tah say bout dat... fer gnowww...seee yah...

By tommybell (Againandagain) on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 08:26 pm: Edit Post
Where's all the raves? This had to be the best show of the tour.

A flawless, perfectly constructed symphony from start to finish. There wasn't a single lull in this entire show. The band was puntucal and energetic, but most of all, confident. I think the turning point was when Mickey sang! Yes. In down the road again, there is a line..." I thought I saw Garcia....with a big grin on his face" etc. and the crowd went crazy. From there it just got tighter and hotter, and they never let up.

This seemed to be a show designed and orchestrated by Phil. Not sure the set list matters much....as Minglewood and Throwing Stones were huge highlights. Jimmy's solo (s) in China Doll were sublime. I remember my friend telling me that Eyes couldn't have been played any better. Perfect.

This show, like PLQs final show at Rocks last year, placed a big emphasis on vocals..... ie the a capella "nightfall of diamonds" outro of Dark Star, audience singing "ashes to ashes, and delicious four part harmonies on Broken Arrow. Also, listen to Boracco goiing berzerk on the organ at the end of China Doll.

Yowsa!

This is what we live for.....get the tapes.



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By gabriel bloxom (Vasaboo) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:32 am: Edit Post
I just got back home to alabama from seeing the dead and a short road trip in colorado. I will spare you the song by song detail. I have seen the dead 400+ times with jerry from 81-95 and let me tell you that thursday and friday night felt like a grateful bomb exploded inside of red rocks. From the long hike up, to the sitting in the sun just waiting on 6pm to roll around. The lot was ok met some really nice people and some old lost friends from early 90s tour was pretty crazy. highlight from the lot (fractile) all i will say on that. Let me just say the joan singing stella made me and girlfriend cry was so sweet that words can not put this into perspective if you were there you know what i mean. MICKEY dropped bombs inside of the rocks as his surgical mask lowered upon his face you could hear and phill the vibration pounding inside your heart was so crazy. I thought that the crowd intensity was awesome everyone was shakin down adults,kids, everyone.
After the show friday night drove to colorado springs and went to the garden of the gods and climbed on top of a huge rock and laid on our backs till the sun rose was a very intense friday night into saturday. Then went to pikes peak 14110 feet and watched the sun set and passed out at the swiss chalet (shit hole) motel in old colorado springs haha. The love was definently there at red rocks suggestion if you go to the shows give them all your love I mean all of it. We did at the rocks and they gave it back i am telling you this was awesome you could almost smell the love it was intense. These guys have got there shit together and let me say joan I LOVE YOU. She knows whos songs shes singing and definently puts all her heart and soul into it. It is almost as if for brief moments you can feel jerry singing thru her. Was very awesome all I can say is thank you phil,bob,billy,mickey,joan, and jimmy I am grateful for it all. I will see you all in atlanta I hope.



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By Pete (Zeus) on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:38 pm: Edit Post
Right on Gabriel. You took the words right out of my mouth. The whole run was spectacular, and the love was flowing out all over the place. Great run of shows, great venue, great vibes. Thursday night was epic, and the rest of the run was spectacular. I am so Grateful to have been a part of it. Peace brother.