Dark Star Opener is the safe bet, but I'd sure be tickled pink if it was Help on the Way with Dark Star opening the 2nd set!
See ya'll there!
anyone been to Cuthbert? Any thoughts on the venue regarding sound quality and any security hassels? Also wondering about possible all night parking/partying/vending. Peace and see ya soon!!
I am here in Eugene and have been to the venue and it looks cool and the people seemed nice. The party zone during the show will be in the old school Phil Zone. See you there.
Sound quality is superb, low key security but they will take your pipe if you are dumb enough to light up out in the open (Trust me, i speak from experience)
Narry a bad seat in the house!
Bring it on Phil!
have fun folks this is very cool place for a show!
..i predict this will be one of the shows of the tour..why? when asked about favorite venues on the 30th, Phils 1st response was Red Rocks, his 2nd the Cuthbert..unbelievelably intimate and comfortable, great sound, perfect layout, verrrry mellow crowd, and fantastic microbrew beer..i had a blast there the Summer Sessions tour..
any setlist so far?
I. Jam-Soulshine-FOTD-Dire Wolf-Hard to Handle-Broken Arrow
II. Revolution-Wharf Rat-King Salomon's Marbles-Pride of Cucamonga-Casey Jones-GDTRFB
Missing the encore : Cosmic Charlie
Good show - second set seemed stronger than the first. Only downside were a few people who were way too messed up and disruptive - rather annoying during a few of the good jams...
The tune dubbed "King Solomans Marbles" is in actuality the tune called "Stronger than dirt or milkin' the roses"
Perhaps the setlist could be corrected.
anyway,Great show, crushing renditions of everything!
You are right that is has been called "Sronger than Dirt", but it was not "Milkin the Roses" it was "Milkin the Turkey". However if you look at the track listing for One From The Vault you will see it referred to as King Solomon's Marbles
Got there early, found a shady spot on the upper lawn area, behind was a light tower with a couple of big spots. Jazz playing on the speakers, Thelonious Monk. Plenty of folks there for the acoustic opener, Warren Haynes Solo Acoustic. With the sun in strong in his face he did several songs. I'm not a good keeper of set lists, maybe someone will know the songs. He played for about a half hour. The sound system was sounding good.
In front of the stage is an open area, concrete. Then behind that wooden benches, and then a gravel walkway, and behind that a grassy hill. All sloping to down to the stage. Cuthbert Amphitheater has kind of a golden arch over the stage. Lots of lights above the stage. In the middle was the sound board, first with tent covers to protect from the sound, but the took those down before the music started. And the small forest of tapers mikes on tall stands behind that.
The first set was opened with a jam. The sun was bright and shining right into Phil and Friends. Cuthbert Amphitheater holds about 4000, not sure if it sold out, but looked full. I am sure Not like the 40,000 plus Dead show days in Autzen, but a great crowd. I'm sure heard a little Statesburo Blues mix in the jams for Friend of the Devil and Dire Wolf. Strong lead guitar, and slide work. Phil was sounding great on bass, and in voice on Broken Arrow, a great Phil song. Passenger was hot, the band pumped up the volume.
The break was long. Plenty of time to get thru the bathroom lines, grab a microbeer and food from one of the many booths outside the amphitheater. A chance to run into friends and smile about the music and good times.
The sun was now almost setting, and the near full moon was rising to the right of the stage. "I see a bad moon rising...." sang Phil in a joking between song exchange. Second set was great. The lights added a touch I had missed before, most shows being day shows. A few fireworks got fired off from the audience. Hey, it's July 3rd....celebrate, with Phil and Friends.
Excellent evening of music, starting at 5:30 and ending near 10pm. Birds, pigeons and ducks, circled in the sky. A large jet seemed to fly over to take a look, unheard, drowned out by the music. Security seemed fairly mellow, mostly stopping smokers and taking pipes from people not watching for security shirts. Mixed crowd, all ages, lots of kids along with the aging Deadheads like me. As usual no one wanted to leave, we didn't want the music to end, but it must. Thanks Phil and Friends, thanks to the people of Eugene, another excellent show.
actually rob did the "bad moon" joke right before Pride. i heard the following teases: "shine on you crazy diamond" (right at the begining jh did the riff!) , strong "lady with a fan," "tears of a clown," "china cat" (bobby's riff), "here comes sunshine," and something that escapes me at this moment :-)
i thought the show was good, not great; the vibe WAS excellent and the guys had a good time. warren soundchecked "to lay me down" in his solo thing. that was beautiful! they also soundchecked "stagger lee." interesting arangement. the stronger than dirt soundcheck was pretty cool. jimmy and warren were very clearly different in their tones and the mix was mostly clear. there was this weird power filicker twards the end of cosmic charlie; i think that was the city saying "you're at curfew kids..."
Both King Solomons Marbles and Stronger than dirt are on the Blues for Allah CD. King solomons Marbles from Blues for Allah is not the Song Phil played Last Night, it was Stronger than Dirt. as far as Roses vs Turkey, it's been called both but I believe Turkey was original so you are correct.
I don't know why "one from the vault" has the song Mis-named, but mis-named it is none the less
What a treat to finally catch Phil and Friends at home for the first time (I was out of town during summer of 99). Mosied out of work an hour early to meet my wife and a couple friends and walked from downtown to the NorthBeach Pub. Had a civilized pre-show meal with some fine Oregon Microbrews and then strolled leisurely over to the show, a half a mile away all through Alton Baker park. We ambled in just as Warren finished his set and strolled down to the 8th row benches just in front of Warren's spot. I could not believe how much space there was around us so close to the stage, and this basically lasted through the show. Just as mellow and friendly as I had hoped P&F at the Cuthbert would be. By the way, regarding the PA music. I've never heard Monk play stride piano like they had playing. This was definitely more reminiscent of Fats Waller style playing.
My overall impression of the show was that this probably had the least musical highlights out of every show so far. I was disappointed in the song choice, but the King Solomon's Marbles breakout salvaged the night for me. Before everyone feels that Phil needs them to defend him let me say that this is by far the best music being made, I was pleasantly surprised by Warren's playing, but I wanted the caliber of music I know these guys are capable of and I don't think this ws the greatest night.
The opening jam didn't start as tightly on the count of 4 as others I've heard, but the band loosely started a simple riff and away they went. The Terrapin tease during the opening Jam was cruel. Anybody who remembers my take on the 2/12 show in Portland knows I want the big epic tunes and a Terrapin opener would have been great. But no, after a nicely jammed opening segment, they played Soulshine, which was the first time I heard this tune ever. Phil sure understands the intricacies of Reggae-style bass grooves and I enjoyed the tune a lot. Warren and Jimmy did some nice trading of licks toward the end before dissolving into a jam that ended up in FOTD. Good solid version, though nothing to expound upon. During the transition to Dire Wolf, there seemed to be some sound issues. My wife and I definitely heard clicking frequently and randomly. The band didn't seem to notice, but Rob was having some sound issues during this jam. The jam went all over the place and then Dire Wolf gave the band a chance to end the run of tunes (In my memory the setlist shouldn't have the > between Dire Wolf and Hard to Handle). The start into Hard to Handle was one of those cold starts into "Jam" that I like so much and they obviosuly had more energy and less wandering in this jam then the previous ones. Warren and Jimmy locked into nice harmonizing of the opening guitar riff to Hard to Handle and then the whole band settled into a nice funky, almost acid-jazzy groove before Warren started singing. The timing is definitely not like the Dead played it and I like the treatment Phil and Frineds gives this tune. Very nice and contemporary sounding underlying riff. Almost like somehting you would expect from Galactic. Out of the jam they played some real sweet sounding stuff and ended up in Broken Arrow (somehow before it I almost thought we might have gotten an Unbroken Chain, but no such luck). By this time I'm hoping for something big to close the set and we got Passenger which certainly wasn't my first choice, but the crowd seemed to like the loudness of Warren's slide. The fact that this was the set closer was, dare I say, disappointingly predictable.
Set 2: Actually from where I was it was Rob who saw the moon and sang the Bad Moon Rising. Phil looked over and gave Rob a chuckle.
Revolution, what is there to say about this one? Sounded like Rock and Roll to me. Heading into Wharf Rat I had the hopes of them settling into Dark Star, but no such luck. Having heard a few versions of Wharf Rat with these guys, this didn't stand out, but the Jam went way out before disintegrating and the band started the Wharf Rat riff again for Warren to sing the last verse. By the way, as far as I can tell, Warren can sing the Jerry Ballads. All due respect to Rob, but it sounds like he's just singing the words. Warren however seems to be feeling the words. The Jam out of Wharf Rat ended in a brief drum solo when we got the tune that made the night for me. Tight and loud the band started the King Solomon's Marbles riff in unison and took off in an awesomely funky and Jazzy jam. Of course the guitar duties on this one went to Jimmy who really attacked the quick pace and Jazzy changes without faltering once (I noticed that when Phil starts "tweaking" the jams throughout the night, Jimmy never seems to miss a beat and has all kinds of interesting ideas with the scales and shapes he plays). Rob took a nice solo in there too and Jimmy had another round after that. What a treat to here the tight playing on this instrumental. After this the band had to stop and stretch for a minute. I smiled through Pride about the King Solomon's marbles they had just played. I'm not a huge fan of the remaining tunes, though they were well played for those who find something new and interesting in Casey Jones and GDTRFB. The highlight for me was when the two guitars harmonized the instrumental Bid you Good night portion. Very sweet sounding. Bid you good night was nice too. The band seemed a bit tired with the way the Cosmic Charlie wound down. Weird sound issues too, with the entire PA clicking out twice as though someone had unplugged the speakers. After this I fulfilled a dream of mine to walk home from a show. What a perfect summer evening for it too.
All in all, though I wasn't overly excited about the song choice, Phil is a one of a kind musician, my favorite bassist, and the music these guys play is the best stuff out there (of the jam rock genre). Just to hear Phil is worth it. (Next time I want some of the big guns!) : )
The scene: very mellow, security a little tight, lots of old school Oregon heads coming out of the woodworks. Barraco is wearing his Oregon Country Fair tie-dye tank top and looks like a cross between Richard Simmons and...someone. ;) Phil wears a black baseball hat for the first few songs, Jimmy has a tall straw hat and dark shades on. (classic moment: Jimmy brings Warren his guitar between songs at Warren's solo set - Warren says, "Now that's something - having the world's greatest guitar player bring you yer guitar.")
Nice job PhilG on catching all of the teases in the jam before Soulshine. I definitely heard Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Terrapin, Tears of a Clown, Here Comes Sunshine, and probably Dark Star too. :) Oh, and I've heard Norwegian Wood at least once a show for the past 4 shows (all 3 Greeks included). Play it!
Cutler and the band had some problems during the 1st 3 tunes - I talked to him about it after the show for a minute. He said it was as much the band not having their act together as it was him. :) But there were popping noises coming out of the right side speakers, and people were scurrying on stage to figure out what was going on up there. Still, the FOTD was strong - and Dire Wolf was a welcome surprise that reminded us - "Hey, we're in Oregon."
Next was a treat - Hard to Handle. There was a large jam. And I couldn't stop thinking of the monster show in Veneta in 72 as Phil layed down some HUGE bass lines and the Oregon trees swayed behind him. Warren did a nice job, and from there we went into one of my favorite first set Phil tunes - Broken Arrow. This is a Robbie Robertson song written for Richard Manuel after he committed suicide, so it holds a special place for me - and Phil did a nice job and kept a rolling groove. We went right into a very LOUD and raucous Passenger to close the set - and the band seemed very pleased with themselves.
During the set break I went and thanked Candace for the beautiful nights at the Greek. She seemed embarassed as usual to hear praise & adulation. ;) People critiquing the 1st set seemed to be on a different planet than I was, so if that tells you anything about my assessment of the 2nd set...
I am a Beatles NUT, and I had heard the Revolution soundcheck in Berkeley, so I had been waiting for this one. And it was HUGE! I ran down to the front of the stage, which I *never* do, and boogied until I dropped. I thought Warren did a great job and it was rowdy & rough just as John Lennon would've liked it. :) I particuarly liked the "It's gonna be ALLRIGHT" ending. The transition into Wharf Rat was beautiful, and even though I could feel the crowd thinking DARK STAR, I enjoyed the moment and thanked my lucky stars that Phil is back, playing his bass, that we're all together, the moon is full. How lucky are we to have this back people!? C'mon.
So there is an ENORMOUS jam in the middle of Wharf Rat which I thought was a new tune, but Warren saunters over to Phil and reminds him that there is another verse, finishes the song, and pretty soon Phil is laying down some very serious shit. Next thing you know, the crowd pleaser of the night - KING SOLOMON'S MARBLES. My jaw was on the floor. It was tight, LOUD, perfect. Wow. I kept asking people - have they played this before? I'm surprised rumors of the soundcheck weren't more rampant. Anyhow, WOW. Rob starts getting giddy and the band is congratulating themselves on how well that was played, so they start making strange sounds in the mikes and Rob sings one line from "I see a Bad Moon Rising." Our long history with the Zen Tricksters in Oregon seems to have Mr. Barracco at ease, and we're not complaining! :) Thanks Rob! And to have the next song be Pride of Cucomonga was great. A reference to Oregon, a little poetry from Bobby Petersen, an obscure tune no doubt. I heard plainly an Eleanor Rigby tease (AGAIN, every night at the Greeks!) after Pride, and then Rob counted down Casey Jones which went absolutely haywire at the end. GDTRFB>AWBYG was fun and appropriate and the transition between the two was beautiful, and it seemed to be the band's way of saying - we love this place too. The encore was a super slow & psychedelic & patient version of Cosmic Charlie - I've seen this tune at least 5 times and this version was definitely the best.
So, I chatted with John Dwork for a minute after the show, and Cutler, and overheard other folks saying this show didn't measure up to the Greeks, etc etc. And it looks like some people on this board felt the same way. I, on the other hand, had a totally different experience. This night was powerful and magical and the song selection was great, and for God's sakes - they played KING SOLOMON'S MARBLES! :) Let's not let our inner critics get carried away with us - enjoy Phil while he's here, and say thank you. THANK YOU PHIL!
p.s. I spent Saturday night at the Greek in the First Aid tent due to something I ate in the parking lot. If anyone can turn me onto a recording of the second set, I sure would like to hear what I missed. See ya'll in Snoqualamie!
Oof, big drag missing that second set on 6/30. I know there's a lot of differing opinion about the B Greek stand, but that was my standout show. Probably because I'm a sucker for the Other One.
About the Eugene show... did that Tears of a Clown hook make an appearance? How about the You Can't Always Get What You Want tease? I'm thinking that somebody has those licks on the brain, just wants to see how they work and what can be done with them in a jam...
OR, my new pet theory, Phil is telling us they won't be doing Dark Star this tour, or breaking out You Can't Always Get What You Want. I mean, most of us WANT to hear Dark Star at some point, but we don't NEED to.
Maybe I belabor the point into the ground, and maybe it's just semantics, but PLEASE PEOPLE go get your copy of "Blues for Allah" and look at the song titles, find the track # of the song "King Solomons Marbles" que up that track and Listen to it carefully! Then, if you want to hear the tune Phil Played Last Night, play the track titled "Stronger than Dirt"from the same Album.
I guess I'm a bit of a fundamentalist and I believe the earliest, official release of a song should be the default reference to all future renditions, regardless of the name attached to said future releases(1 from the Vault)
Just because some copy editor at GDP decided that the song "Stronger than Dirt" should be called "King Solomans Marbles" from now on dosen't make it so in my book.
Anybody know what "Deadbase" has to say on this subject? I'd be most interested!
What do ya know? Deadbase confirms my assertion.
Stronger than Dirt was Played 5 times by GD, including Great American Music Hall 75(The now infamous 1 from the Vault) While King Solomans Marbles was never played Live.
I know old habits die hard, and no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary, people here probably will not stop mis-naming this tune.
I guess I'll have to just get over it and move on!
Hey, all I did was post a list that was given to us from people at the show, so that someone had a reference point. Who cares, it was something new and different, and that is all that really matters. Did you enjoy it? Was it a cool new and different experience? Leave symantics to the people at Phillesh.net, and enjoy whatever you can.
I seem to remember "Stronger than Dirt" on my American music hall tape. I think it's a good idea to refer to it as Stronger than Dirt.
I did enjoy it. It made my night. It was a new and unbelievably cool experience to hear them work their chops with tight precision and include such adventurous improvisation.
Who are the most Type A Deadheads?
You people rule.
No points are belabored, Paul.
Here's to the best country on the face of the earth!
"stonger than dirt" or "king soloman's marbles "
. . . whatever you call this song it is the most killer-est thing that phil bust'd this out!!!! I really, really, really, really, really, wanted phil to start playing this again and it came true!!!! this proves that PHIL DOES READ THE PHILZONE.COM DISCUSSIONS!!!!!!!!!! . . . phil you rock!
My copy of "Blues for Allah" has it listed like this:
King Solomons Marbles:
a. Stronger than Dirt
b. Milkin' the Turkey
I guess the song has two parts to it and Phil played the first part.
Thank you for these great, detailed reviews! Hilary
by the by...didn't anyone else here a "mind left body jam" at cuthbert? second set, forget exactly where
Did anybody check out Warren's solo set? Can you post a Setlist please?
checked out the sweet warren acoustic set but don't have a set list for ya. he played a whole mess of new tunes that he says will be appearing on an acoustic solo disc to be coming out some time soon. bitchin'!
After a few days of digestion...
My friends and I had a grand 'ol time. The Cuthbert is where I saw my first Phil show two years ago and I now hope to see many more there. Everything about the place was super easy. They even had a music stand on a bridge between the lots and doors with a notice describing the "express entry" for people with no back packs.
We eased down the road from Portland, took refuge from the sun under the trees by the little creek, waded in the aforementioned creek, and finally ambled through the gates more than an hour after doors. 'Twas no problem getting a great lawn spot on Warren's side (Jerry's side?) and after a little more chillin' Warren came on and played a great set. It seemed to be mostly new material... I think I only recognized U2's "One", which is a great song for him.
I remember being surprised that he didn't play "Soulshine"... and I guess he didn't have to cause the whole band opened the show with it. The sound was crystal clear, and the layout of the venue offers great sight lines from anywhere. The bleachers were only about half full when the show started-which inspired a friend and I to dance by leaping from bench to bench like little kids. Phil was leading us to a "Terrapin" opener before easing into "Soulshine." Lucky for us… "Terrapin" would have made for treacherous bench leaping. It was a very "1st Set" sort of 1st Set with country flavored nuggets like "FOTD" and "Dire Wolf." When I saw Rob switch over to the Hammond, I felt my legs pick me up off the grass and lead me down to the floor for some reason… "Hard to Handle!!" Absolutely ripping. This tune is perfect for Warren, but hearing it live made me realize that it was PHIL who was always in charge of the groove when they used to play it with Pig. I'd been waiting 30 years to hear this one… and I'm only 29!! "Broken Arrow"-my first with PLQ and a very emotional moment for me. Again, my legs picked me up and ran me down to the floor for some reason… "Passenger!!" Ever since New Year's this one seems to set off the dance bomb and the hippies all start shakin' ass! I love it! A peaceful set break followed during which the boys and I dined on steak sandwiches, hot dogs, and heart-stopping pasta. Ahhh…the good life.
The silence is broken with that classic rockin' riff that is etched on my DNA: "Revolution!!" Show us what 'cha got: "We'd all love to see the plan!" "Wharf Rat" was the big Jerry dirge that took us out into deep space. Warren stretched it out so far I'd forgotten that there were still verses left to sing when he came back to "Got up and wandered…" If I remember right, "Wharf Rat" came to a complete stop, and the lights all focused on John "The Mountain and the Sea" Molo. He starts pounding out a fast paced rhythm all by himself. Are we about to get a drum solo? Nope. The band jumps in with a tight, familiar-yet-alien melody. Heads turn to each other. Eyes bulge. "Is this… 'King Solomon's Marbles'?" Yup. They nailed it. Ask anyone who was there and listening. They played it like they've been playing it for years. Maybe they have been…who knows. It was my first real "break out" moment of my Dead career and I'll remember it for life. It was great to hear "Pride...", especially wit the "Oregon" reference. "Pride', "Casey", and "GDTRFB>AWBYGN" was all fun… a much needed breath of normalcy after the space travel of "Wharf Marbles."
Before the donor rap, Phil tells us how much he likes Eugene (who doesn't?) and how it's clear to him that "we have a thing going!"
"Truckin' in style along the avenue" pretty much summed up my feelings about the day. "Charlie" is a great mellow-down encore to hear before hitting the road. You've never seen so much "kind-heady-glass" in one lot before. Bowls, bubblers, crystal balls… the whole Shakedown was brimming with hippies carrying those padded briefcases full of the "phat glass." It was an entertaining lot scene, Eugene always is. But it was time to hit the road and "lay down and take our rest" to prepare for the great unknown they call…Snoqualmie.
LOL, Are you guys sure P&Fs didn't play BOTH "KSM" and "STD" (eek) at this show?? Not to mention each of the GD's '75-'76 performances...
How do you tell them apart? It sounds like one composition to me.
Yep, I taped the show & they play all of KSM: STD -> jam -> Milkin' the Turkey.