• Telstar & Particle Photos April 29 - 04:44 am [2]

After a rocky start (test test is this thing on) Telstar was off and sailing. Nothing too outrageous, just testing the gears and levers. Once they got the bugs worked out, the crew was sailing and sending their weirdness into the heavens above. After a long winded "Hi How Are Ya", there was a bit of a lull in the conversation. That's when we got the response -- "Just fine and thanks for askin'!" as the amps on stage blew into some cosmic weirdness that clearly took Phil by surprise.

Call and response. Dig it.

I saw it. I was there!

and you have my poster right?

If there was a poster, it remained conspicuously out of view. Doesn't mean there wasn't -- but I sure didn't see it.

wow

I'm surprised

There were plenty of robots, though!

PLease...More...
inquirng minds seek to undersatand

iirc, molo sang some steve miller "time keeps on slippin'" into a drum mike and molitz was wearin' a "we lurk alot" T plus willie on space horn

I have a couple of cool videos to upload somewhere...

Phil was a total mad scientist. It was brilliant.

This will give you a flavor for the sound...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtZvBAjw_k0

>>>Phil was a total mad scientist. It was brilliant.

VERY cool description.

A few more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg5RY-TORL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA_Gf9IS-SQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guuJfPhacnk

Lost in space.. experimental for sure, a blend of jazz, electronica. Lift off was achieved, but it was short lived for me. Trumpet was good, some sax would have rounded out the sound. A very spacey set that had it's up and down, they were clearly flying by the seat of their pants, was happy to be along for the ride, however I prefer my Phil a bit more down to earth.

Right on Rev! Sounds pretty cool.
were there any vocals? :*)

molo's vocal--steve miller snippet--into a drum mike

From groovy cubano jazz to insect fear on the turn of a dime. Phil was getting a lot of sounds, including heavy metal guitar. The trumpet was key.

It was soooo right up my alley, not sure how it will translate if there is a recording, but I have this clear vision of Phil throwing his head back and laughing wildly with crazy space video behind him, that will stay with me forever.


Awesome that it was total improv, I had a lot of fun at the event, and enjoyed some of the other music, but for most of the other music there wasn't anything "happening". Just a general sound that I either liked or didn't. The bella gaia stuff was pretty good. I really liked the ambient music while melting into chairs beneath the wing of a plane and great visuals everywhere you looked. That's where I was when missing Particle. But anyway, phil's shit was without a net and it was the only music that felt like that all night.

I liked the glow bike, I totally want one. And the break dancers. I want one of those too.

Molo is rockin

>I really liked the ambient music while melting into chairs beneath the wing of a plane

dwight loop et al (aka dream jungle)

nice review BOTB glad you had fun, the light show looks great. I could see that Phil show going on an hour longer. Glad lift off was acheived. The smile on his face tells it all. How was the shoreline tour?

the 2nd one is esp cool, love the moroccan pink floyd riff

how was the particle set?

Thank for the reviews, that is wild wild stuff

particle was awesome.... was riding the rail for a bit and was like WOW!!!

Good morning Rob

Nice reviews.

Anyone see any tapers there?

I'm hopeful for a Phil freebie SBD. . .

Hey, I just posted this in another Telstar thread, but this looks more active, so...

"Hey all, another tired NASA fan being heard from here. I wanted to reassure you that I hung out with a taper buddy, with Neumann mics, so a good recording should be available shortly, I'll let y'all know!

For me, the best part of all was the INCREDIBLE bass tone that Phil was using! It was very bright and trebly, quite like a Chris Squire Rickenbacker sound... you could hear every time Phil even thought about touching a string with his pick. I was like, "Long Distance Runaround > The Fish!", but no... Phil's maniacal grins were also TOTALLY worth the price of admission.

Saddest part: leaving Particle early, largely because I couldn't stand the pounding distorted bass anymore. HOW could a soundman take that incredible 21st-Century gleaming techno-bass tone, and turn it into yet another indistinguishable low-end rumble? The bleed-over from the other stage, the dj stage, was very bad during Phil's show, with boomy indistinguished bass blasting away at the edges of the sometimes-quiet and delicate explorations of Telstar, but it was nothing to the teeth-grinding distortion that Particle's bass player generated. Sigh... your ears may vary, of course...

What a fun night! Em, you left "Fly Like An Eagle near-occurrence" off your setlist; Molo looked like he was going to collapse on his snare drum in laughter!

So long, and thanks for all the glow-sticks... oh, there was some really nice space-themed cleavage on display too, thanks NASA!

Um, is there a review thread of this show? I guess I should post this there..."

When those amps burst forth with that cosmic feedback noise, I thought Phil was going to laugh himself silly. I will go to my grave swearing that we made contact!

Oh yeah, there was a nice Close Encounters riff at the very end of the set. Very well played.

Besides Molo's very brief vocal, there was also a section of the jam that was essentially a *very* whacked out Watchtower -- only know for sure it was Watchtower because Phil called it out to the bandmates before it started; otherwise, it would have been, yeah, that sounds familiar but can't place it. Otherwise, nothing recognizable.

Asbsolutely the most sustained out-there jamming I've seen in any Phil incarnation; there may have been 5 or 10 minutes here and there back in the day, but this was an hour + of sheer lunacy. Also really showed what we're missing in the current P+F by not having Molitz mixed loud enough, and by having such conventionally-grounded guitarists, however talented they may be; he constantly helped Phil shift and form the music -- the two of them had much more of a musical conversation than I've heard at P+F shows (though maybe they are having that conversation there too, and the mix is killing it for the audience). The trumpet gave an old-line free-jazz sort of feel to it sometimes, and that was the most *normal* part of the music! Other times he was mainly adding texture, and using some good, but not at all overbearing effects -- more than once reminding me of the horn (or synth) at the beginning of Shine on You Crazy Diamond, though that might just have been me trying too hard to find some conventional mooring...

Favorite Phil moment was when the rest of the band quieted a bit, and he spent a few minutes switching back and forth between an effect that raised his pitch an octave and sounded like a midi-ish guitar and his normal sound. As someone mentioned above, head thrown back with a huge mad scientist grin.

It was loud; it was challenging musically. And that meant it was uncrowded, with plenty of room to dance once you were even five or ten rows back from the stage. And while, as ever, the usual chattering idiots prevailed further back (you can hear 'em well on the videos that folks posted), closer up was far too loud and intense for that to be a factor.

Lights and video were off the hook as well, as you can see in the pics and videos.

All in all, a phreaky phil experience of the highest order.

We are everywhere...and so are they!!

Is this proof that life does in fact exist in other galaxies?
Phil channeled the aliens.
Sounds very cool and I would like to hear a recording of this.

Very nice, amigos.
Very glad you were there to lap up the primary source.

I'm bet the aliens dig what Phil transmits.

So who exactly was in the band besides Phil, Molo, Molitz, and a trumpet player? (pardon my ignorace, but I don't see any reviews posted anywhere else and I missed the live stream). Thanx

SSBob, just Phil, Steve, John and Willie Waldman on Trumpet. Adding Willie was a stroke of genius. His tone was so Miles Davis and IMHO made the show.

How long was Phil's set? He didn't go on like that for hours, did he? Sorry folks, but maybe until I hear a complete recording, those vids just sound like a band warming up for a really long time and never actually getting anywhere. None of it came anywhere near genius in my head.

But I also feel the same way about Mile's electric-whatever period. Even total improv can jam, just ask Jarrett.

Ok, the second of Dan's vids (the first of the group of three) wasn't bad. I'd love to hear a soundboard of this!

Well I was there Christopher and I have to agree with your first post, that it sounded like an hour of tuning up and at times for me it was actually painful to listen to. I know many will say I just didn't get it and perhaps they are right, but for me an hour of really harsh space jamming that never gets anywhere is too much.

I have never been a fan of strict jazz, but with Phil I was hoping that he would bring this new age electronic space music into a format that also captured the song filled melodic music of the Dead, but alas it did not happen.

As I was watching I could see the technical complexities of this style of playing and I appreciate that Phil is exploring different styles, but as entertainment it fell flat.

telstar spacing out:

Phil frequently channels space aliens.

Just gotta poke around.

two more:

a few more:

The thing I really enjoyed was when the aliens took advantage of Phil's bombs and took over Molo's body and drum set. Phil was flying around the stage pretending to be the space shuttle!

Phil last night.

was there taping going on?? Those videos seem pretty amazing. Hope y'all had a good time and hopefully they expand on this. Pretty exciting stuff.

I saw at least one taper.

Sweet I'll be keeping my eyes open for that.

Great set! I would happily see much more of these guys. Not every idea was magic but with an hour+ of pure improv what do you expect? It does reveal how grounded both the current version and even past versions of PLF are into the song format. Go Phil! Also it was the first time I've ever been truly impressed with Molitz. I'm not a big Particle fan and you can barely hear the guy most of the time with PLF but I thought he was great. Willie Waldman was a great addition to the sound, helped round things out a bit.

Only real bummer was the super LOUD bass from the electronica stage, I wish they had partially closed that hangar door to limit the bleed somewhat. I fear it will compromise the tapes somewhat but make this an excellent candidate for a SBD release.

This was an awesome show! Maybe not to everyone's taste but I thought they brought the goods. If you weren't there there was a lot more groove than Seastones. Though it got delightfully weird sometimes they would bring it back into something with some form.

There has to be more from this bunch down the pike, a Fillmore show perhaps? PLEASE! I couldn't make it to Mtn View.

There were definitely peaks and valleys to this show and they were more dramatic and abrupt than other Phil shows to be sure, but that's just the nature of the beast at a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants set like this. But I thought the highs were pretty damn high and it was a hoot to see! I got pretty much exactly what I was expecting -- and then some. I left happy!

Folks said that the Planet Jams didn't go anywhere either back in 2001, but I thought they were the highlight of the tour.


"Hey Koddos -- that earthling down there playing at the NASA hanger...isn't he that same guy we saw playing in front of the pyramids 30 years ago? Let's blast his amps with a megadose of intergalactic feedback!"

I have to read this thread to get caught up with y'all, but I just want to say that I had an awesome time. This weekend was a particularly good one!

Lance, your generosity is a testament to the Zone. Thank you for the tour!

Dinner company was awesome! It's fun to mix some of the more familiar faces in with the new! Scott, thank you for bringing and sharing desert.

The party at NASA was WAY OFF THE HOOK. We walked in under the legs of a War of the World robot/alien standing two stories tall. To the left were two hangars, one packed with science experiments, and the other conducting a science experiment of it's own by throwing a Burning Man-style rager. Besides the alien, the tarmac was filled with airplanes, jets, drones, and a fire-breathing robot. The outdoor stage hosted Phil & Particle, and was so comfortably attended that I could walk to the front to visit with the Rail Zoners or hang in the back where the sound wasn't deafening.

The stage was set (our left to right) with Particle Dude, Phil, Wally Waldman (a pleasant surprise) and Molo.

I've never heard a Phil set quite like what we heard Saturday night. The set was entirely improv. It took a while to get the rocket engines started, but once they were going we blasted off to sound bending nugs that set us free to explore outer space and inner space at the same time. Except "I don't believe in time." There were no pop songs in this set. In fact, outside of a nod to Watchtower, there was no song at all. I *really* enjoyed hearing Phil explore so deeply.

This was a fantastic outting. The Shoreline tour, Zoner dinner, NASA party, and the company I kept made this for one of the best weekends in a long time.

ok, time to get serious here folks...

was it really anything that out of the ordinary for the genre? the brief bits of youtube I just watched and heard made it seem kinda like the typical space porn improv boogie, not really that unusual for a lot of bands in the genre.

reading the reviews it seems it was unusual for the Phil fan that hasn't been going to see shows by Sound Tribe or similar bands. for those that have, can you give an accurate account of what may have made this particular set of music stand out?

besides the obvious that it's Phil Effing Lesh on bass!

Point of clarification: Wally Waldman was playing a Flugelhorn instead of a trumpet.

He played both actually...mostly trumpet but a bit of flugelhorn in the middle.

and this was definitely unusual and nothing like STS9. Perhaps a 30 second snippet may give that impression but that's taking it out of context. Within a five minute period of time or the entire set, it's not even close to what's typical for STS9.

KK, you're essentially right. You had to be there to catch the full groove... it wasn't just the music, it was the whole vibe, the warm day, the big open NASA space, the evident pleasure on Phil and everyone else's faces... And yes, you're right, it wasn't like musically OMG. I'm not sure if tapes will be very rewarding. I DO want to hear it again, but I don't expect to listen to it over and over. However, the tones and textures were amazing, and a few specific moments in the jamming were outstanding. I remember when the PLQ would do a spacy show, especially in their early days, it might take quite a bit of uninspiring noodling and searching around before the band caught fire for two or three inspired minutes... it was like that, sort of.... And Willy's great! (NOT WALLY! Careful there, Diggles!)

so maybe STS9 was not the best group to compare it to Emily.... can you tell me what made it any different than the usual improv space boogie?

...like what makes it different than a typical Banyan gig? same horn player, same improv trip. the rest of the scene sounds very typical of what my Burning Man friends do all the time.....

but still Phil on bass so gets the thumbs up from me.

I want to hear the whole set for sure

N why can't Phil bring this kinda thing to NYC - We love NASA n strange music

It reminded me of Banyan, except no guitar player. Phil did use some trippy guitar-like effects on his bass. I kept waiting for Big Brown to appear. Willie Waldman was a nice addition.

Phil was obviously having a blast.

I think you answered your own question, KK.

Phil Lesh on bass is the primary difference. . .

There wasn't that much boogie at all, it came in a few short bursts but didn't last long at all.

There was no guitar, which makes it quite different from a banyan gig.

There was no structure, the whole show was free form. Molo didn't keep a beat, there was no solid backbone. It was all loose noodling and tweaking.

I can't think of a single hour of music in my vast history with such a lack of structure.

It's a completely different "improv trip". There was no singular, unifying 'song' to tie the musicians together, no normalized jumping off point, they all just started to play...at one point, Molitz was trying to lead Molo into something, but Molo wasn't quite getting it with just music. Molitz mouthed a few words and did a little air drumming, Molo got closer but it wasn't quite right, Molitz then climbed over his gear in the back, ran around behind phil and whispered in Molo's ear...he got it that time. And the result a bit of a cohesive jam, just tightened things up for a second.

It was quite a bit of 'noise' in places. and also quite a bit of listening...lots of searching for the sound, so to speak. Phil fully stopped, took his hands off his bass and scratched his head as he listened.

100% improv is so much different than anything I've ever seen, jamming around a song or playing off a particular riff, however vague it may be, really adds a lot of structure. This gig had none of that.

>100% improv is so much different than anything I've ever seen<

isn't that what Banyon does?

if there were no song structures whatsoever then why was there a Watchtower-nod mentioned?

>Phil was getting a lot of sounds, including heavy metal guitar<
these days you don't have to play a guitar to sound like one either....

crazy trippy fun glad ya'll got turned on and transported...

KK

>> isn't that what Banyon does? <<

No Banyan plays songs, ones that were written and have structure. They do a lot of jamming and they do a lot of weirdness in exploring space but not formless to the Telstar level, it is not even close to 100% spontaneous improvisation.

sounds like a dream!!!

(((((chaos)))))

Why were you sitting around watching????

>No Banyan plays songs, ones that were written and have structure. They do a lot of jamming and they do a lot of weirdness in exploring space but not formless to the Telstar level, it is not even close to 100% spontaneous improvisation.<

then what are these Banyan shows?
http://www.archive.org/details/banyan2008-02-29.ls d2.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/banyan2007-12-08.ak g452ck3-460ck22.flac24

only point I'm attempting to make is that it sounds to me like the Telstar gig was not something *that* unusual if you're really looking for it... but w/ Phil yes a rare bird indeed!

KK, every person who was there has said this was entirely unusual. The only person in this thread who doesn't get it is the one who wasn't there.

If you don't get it, we can't explain it to you.

well funny that some that were there said it wasn't that unsual Doogs and it did remind them of other things they have heard... the posts are right up above in there if you want to go check them out yourself, I just did before posting this.

I get it too, it was quite unusual mainly because it was Phil Lesh on bass. that I have agreed on in every post I've made. ditto on being psyched for everyone that was there and got off on it.

Phil's shirt does not look entirely unusual at all, that's the one he broke out for the DHO gig.

<<Phil's shirt does not look entirely unusual at all, that's the one he broke out for the DHO gig.

and why do you know that?

>>>>can you tell me what made it any different than the usual improv space boogie?

The fact that there wasn't but about 5 minutes of "boogie" total in the whole thing?



>>>if there were no song structures whatsoever then why was there a Watchtower-nod mentioned?

Sounds like you are in the mood to argue about a show that you didn't attend, I'll bite. Again, that was brief and the only thing that even touched on anything anyone had heard before. That was a single exception to a set of free-form.

If I were going to liken it to some other musical act, it would be some sort of free jazz or music concrete, not space porn boogie. I don't know if anyone here has been to the Bonk Festival, but it easily could have been something there.



>>>>the rest of the scene sounds very typical of what my Burning Man friends do all the time.....



Very much like a burner party except that most of the time they aren't at a NASA facility, with bitchin high end science experiments and world class scientists speaking and funky NASA-issue aircraft. Other parties in other places are special for their own reasons, but this particular "space is the place" thing was much more serious-minded that your average burner party and had its own vibe because of the venue.

FromJambands:
"On Saturday the bassist performed a set of spacey, improvisational music with John Molo, Steve Molitz and Willie Waldman as Telstar. The special show took place at a NASA hanger in Mountain View, CA The quartet offered an experimental mixture of jazz and electronica, as well as reworked versions of Bob Dylan’s “All Along the Watchtower” and Steve Miller Band’s “Fly Like an Eagle."

Hmmm..,, I went to Yuri's Night and left scratching my head after listening to Telstar out there on the tarmack. With no structure whatsoever; Moliz, Lesh & Molo explored different avenues of expression. I thought that without Willie Waldman, they would have been in real trouble. Willie added enough melody and nice touches that actually brought it back into the realm of music. His Miles styled effects that he used fit right in too. At times Molo looked a bit frustrated. I wonder if they rehearsed? Even improv musicians do that. They could have worked up five different grooves to use as a launch pad, but it didn't sound like they did. Not being an electronica music fan leaves me at a dissadvantage. I did enjoy parts of it and Phil's sound was very good and I could hear lots of possibilities. The Particle set that followed I thought was atrocious. What appeared to me by watching both Telstar and Particle back to back is how Steve Molitz really can't carry a band. And Phil Lesh is a top shelf musician who should be playing with musicians who are a step up the ladder. On the drive home while listening to Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery, I couldn't help but wonder how Telstar would have sounded with Keith Emerson on the keys????

>only point I'm attempting to make is that it sounds to me like the Telstar gig was not something *that* unusual if you're really looking for it... but w/ Phil yes a rare bird indeed!<

There's probably more folks out there doing improv noise/drone/melt than ever, as a quick glance around these sites will show you.

http://www.eclipse-records.com/index2.shtml
http://www.volcanictongue.com/

botb wins for best review!

>>>bitchin high end science experiments and world class scientists speaking and funky NASA-issue aircraft.

>>>I thought that without Willie Waldman, they would have been in real trouble. Willie added enough melody and nice touches that actually brought it back into the realm of music.

Nicely stated, and completely agreed.

No doubt, Jlp. I was kinda wishing I thought up that phrase!

Word BOTB!

>>no singular, unifying 'song' to tie the musicians together

Except for the one stretch I mentioned above: a section of the jam that was essentially a *very* whacked out Watchtower -- only know for sure it was Watchtower because Phil called it out to the bandmates before it started; otherwise, it would have been, yeah, that sounds familiar but can't place it.

funny, sitting here watching the stream we felt Willie was the weak link and kept hoping he'd leave the stage.

^^^Really? I think it took him a bit to adjust initially, but once found, he rocked it!

Goes to show...

I'm in the 'without willy they would have been in trouble' camp, I think he's got the most experience with the improved improv format and that certainly helps. His playing with Banyan has always been way out there so this was right up his alley

Anybody know his connection to Phil? I'm assuming it must be Molitz, as they played together recently with Banyan...don't know of any time when Molo might have played with him?

Just for the record, when Banyan recorders list Improv > improv#2 > ..., they are sometimes ignorant of actual song titles. Banyan plays plenty of songs. There's a studio album with thirteen song titles. Other than Willie Waldman, Telstar sounded NOTHING like Banyan (to me). Telstar sounded like extented Phil Lesh Space Jams. We had a hint of it at the Obama Deadhead night at the Filmore, when the trio played for five spacey minutes. Or, as I said above, think of some of the extended jam noodling that the early PLQ were partial to, where sometimes they would mess around for a while before finding a cool groove for a minute or two, then back to noodling.

No, it's not "high-percentage" successful improvising. They had a few electric moments of group ubermind, the rest of the time they seemed to be searching. The Watchtower was actually two clear quotes of part of the main verse, separated by about five jazzy openspace minutes of whatever... And the light show and imagery were a large part of it too!

I'm very happy I went, glad to have spent my money on worthy causes and great music. That said, I'm not ready to go on Telstar tour yet, one show ever few months would be fine for now... On the other hand, the more they do it (IF they do!), certainly the better they'll get at it. In fact, I hope they do it AT LEAST once more, just to see what Phil learned from this experience!

Molo played with Willie and Molitz in Malibu about 2 months ago!!! I almost went!

Here's some more pics for the fun of it.

I loved the night. You had to be there, and then you had to be there as well! It was VERY LOUD.

Molo has played with Willie numerous times in both Banyan and the Willie Waldman Project. I saw Molo play a fine set with Willie/Banyan last August, also with Kimock, at Umphrey's McGee's Riverview Fest. Molo was a last second addition for that show, due to Steve Perkins' cancellation for "personal issues."

so how was the security? heavy search? armed guards? or nothing?

^^^
No security on entrance. A very light check.

A few uniformed personel about but no issues.

Smelled sweet smoke around the area and when Phil played but not willing to risk problems we stuck to edibles.

I think the guy who searched my bag going in was blind. No joke, he was sitting in a chair, eyes closed the entire time, he kept saying 'step right up and put a bag in my hands' he joked 'not all of them at once though'. He dug around in my bag, pulled out an empty water bottle, knocked on it and said 'oh good it's plastic' and that was it. He was event staff, not really cop-style security.

and of course it turns out there was no where to fill an empty water bottle. The services of the day left a lot to be desired. The water purchase line and the beer line were two separate lines and you had to wait on three lines to actually get a beer. One for a wristband, one to buy beer tickets and a third to actually get beer. I gave up. Not sure I've ever given up on beer

There were lots and lots of cops roaming around, I saw San Jose police and Mountain View police, full uniform type guys...didn't see anybody with federal credentials though.

sounds really cool

It was mellow by the time my 16 year old niece and I got there around 8:30 as the sun had gone down. It was a really cool event and next year I plan on going during the day just because of all the stuff they had going on simultaniously. Plus all the airplanes, NASA jets, and other jet propulsion curiosities amongst the tribal sounds. They had a Burning Man fire structure and a War of the Worlds thingee as well as little stations where they were conducting science classes. My guess was there may have been 6 or 7 thousand people there and many didn't go because Phil Lesh was going to be playing. I walked around the grounds after Phil's set and saw the Military Police approach folks that were burning kind herb and they walked them out somewhere. So there was security that was busting people. Besides that it was very mellow.

^^^^
I missed the military police, but I wouldn't have risked it like I said! It was a trippy night as it was!

Security came to my area and stopped people from smoking cigarettes. Anyone who was in my area hid their popcorn in a hurry, but he came over to where I was anyway. He looked around, appeared frustrated that he couldn't find what he was looking for (which might or might not have been under my foot, but how can I know what he was looking for?), then made way.

I was a little bit later arriving than the other Zoners, but there was no security (no one touched me) when I arrived. Sneaking booze in would have been easy, but enjoying that booze was definitely difficult. Best to eat.

>many didn't go because Phil Lesh was going to be playing.

I gotta agree. In fact, I would say very few people were there for Phil. The DJ stage was much more crowded.

>many didn't go because Phil Lesh was going to be playing.

Who is that Phil Fresh guy?? We're going back to the DJ stage!!

>>>>it turns out there was no where to fill an empty water bottle.


But then it also turned out that the NASA staff was giving away free liter bottles of water.

um! like the green tights on those long legs and that shimmering reflective short dress.

I'd be able to improvise with that!

"It was like we all went to an acid fair on science!"

One of the presenters spoke about riding this planet earth through space, we're not just passengers, but co-pilots and we need to take action to keep our ship (earth) sustainable as we travel through space..or something like that. Sure glad there wasn't a test.

Where you got the beer braclet they sold water for $3.00. I bought one then noticed the free ones being given away!

There are no passengers on spaceship earth. We are all crew.

-- Herbert "Marshall" McLuhan

Yes! That was the quote. Thanks for posting that.

Cant add much that hasn't already been said. I especially liked meeting Shabbazz, Jessica and Scott. Missed a few others but saw most of the regulars which is always nice. I was standing on the side of the stage before the set and Phil walked by. A Zoner yelled "Phil! What you gonna play tonite? He said "I dont have the slightest idea", so we knew it would be improv. Which it was. I stayed for a while, but I forgot my earplugs, so I had to leave the rail. All and all very loud.

The event itself was a gas too. More of a rave than a science fair. I Enjoyed the air show and the telescopes. The 20 inch was fantastic. Mountains of the moon indeed. The robot guys were way cool. There was also a bicycle that spanked you when you rode it and a bunch of Amazon women who looked like they might like to spank you. Go figure.

sounds like a "nice night out"...

It was nice to meet you too Bigbub!

Hey, Bigbub! I'm sorry I missed you!

...I seemed to miss the telescopes, too! (???)

Damn fine to meet you and the Mrs as well Bub! Let me know when you're heading back down South so we can get together and have ourselves a time!

>...I seemed to miss the telescopes, too! (???)


it was out near cyclecide....