Up early...couldn't sleep in anticipation for tonight's show. Should be interesting...

I think the boys could rearrange a bit and breakout a long last, timeless "Hey Little One"
Come on Phil--easy one to drum too and let JK's bluesiness shine through

" Tour free or die" Ok I am calling the Dark Star first this morning as well as Stella Blue.Maybe a killer Jack Straw opener too? See ya'll later in the granite state.

Oh yeah Magnolia Mountain would be appropriate as well, maybe in the first set tonight. Yeah baby!! I am ready

Jack Straw would appear to be imminent either tonight or tomorrow; only played once this tour along with Sugar Magnolia and Wharf Rat, to name two. I would particularly like to see Comes a Time; sounds like it was stellar at the rehearsal shows. If y'all want to bust out an unplayed cover, might I suggest Whipping Post?

Been a long wait since last December. "Busdrivers, can you take me to, and guide me through, the Verizon Wireless Arena please?"

>>>I would particularly like to see Comes a Time; sounds like it was stellar at the rehearsal shows. If y'all want to bust out an unplayed cover, might I suggest Whipping Post?
Oh yeah Andy that would be HUGE !!
Here is a first set guess
Jack Straw
FOTD
Big River
Pride of Cucamonga
Althea
GSET
Magnolia Mountain>
Let it Grow>
Comes a Time

Who wants to start the second?

Alright I will throw this one out
Playing in the Band> Eyes of the World> Dark Star>Stella Blue> St. Stephen> Dark Star>The Eleven> Lovelight>Box of Rain
Brokedown Palace

I'm betting we get a Cucamonga and JS for sure. And I'm hoping for a King Solomon's, Foolish Heart, New Potato, Days Between & Viola Lee. I think Sailor > Saint is highly probable, as is Scarlet.

Comes a time is a great call, Ted. So is Stella.

No matter what, tonight is going to be outrageously kind!

Foolish Heart would be wicked!!!

Ted, I'll play
II
Jack Straw>
Crazy Fingers>
Lost Sailor>
Jam>
Comes A Time>
Just Like Tom Thumb Blues>
Playin'>
Wharf Rat>
Saint of Circumstance

E(s): Help>Slip>Franklin's

went to shea last night. some really great moments... music,jane,road- solid. Corina downer.
half step- great climax, midnight smoked!! ala jgb. Death D - suprisingly really good. bucket seared. Funny Death-hell-rip.
Jk definatley great addition- as for the drums- ehhhh
Really good time

That's a long overnight drive from Buffalo to Manchester! I bet everyone is going be pretty tired on the crew tonight- hopefully not the band- they're all in buses.

I will be sitting in 104, unless the back of the floor is open, and wearing my SYF swooping owl tye dye. Hitting he road in t-minus 30 minutes

Sec 121 row L rocking an Aiko Aiko tye dye purple skeleton shirt.

Dark Star for sure tonight....my wife is going. LOL.......she always gets Dark star.

Preparty and postparty with the kind Buds at Shaskeen Irish Pub 813 Elm street.

Starts at 4pm

my predictions for manchester 2/18/10
second set
aiko
here comes sunshine
estimated
dark star
blues for allah
miracle
comes a time
sugar mags
encore box of rain

deff not brokedown tonight, MAGNOLIA MT,

i am thinking dancing in the street tonight and for anyone that hasnt seen them get ur ass to a show cuz ive only missed one show and they are rocking every place better and better

and a HEY HEY HEY hey little one--they could do it ya know

Are there any streams of yonights show? Sorry if this is a double post, but I didn't see my first one pop up.

Catching texts of show from post op recovery room! Should be with my buddy in seat #2 in front of board instead.

Have fun folks!

I THINK I SMELL A BREAKOUT COMIN

good luck to you Ron

I mean Run $ see

any ustream tonight?

I pick a Stranger for opener.

Is Yoko Lesh the one who is trying to sabotage all the streams?

Thanks Mike!

Hope a New Potatoe finds its way into the sets

feel better jeremy. these guys will be around for a while

Hey Little One would be great, how about a Big Boy Pete!

Stranger opener it is

2/18/10
Manchester, NH
Furthur

stranger

The Doors light my fire tonight?

Freebird.. for sure!! ;-)

Maybe France :-)

.......Come on down and see the show
When the rhythm's really right
You can burn it down tonight
When the singing's really fine
Sweet as Spanish sherry wine......

One can dream I guess

first time poster, first show '73. Hope they hold out and play blind man tomorrow. Roll on Muddy River!!

France>Samba>Serengeti

so... is anyone gracing us with a stream this evening? any rumors?

1.
Stranger
Loose Lucy
Must've Been The Roses

Was this show an 8pm start? Delay what's up?

2/18/10
Manchester, NH
Furthur

Stranger
Loose Lucy
It Must Have Been the Roses

Deep Elem

or a cream puff WAR

The vibes from my speakers are sounding good.
Feel Like a Stranger (03.09.81)
Loose Lucy (11.11.73)
It Must Have Been the Roses (08.13.75)

Stranger
Loose Lucy
It Must Have Been the Roses
Deep Elem
Just a little light

2/18/10
Manchester, NH
Furthur

stranger
loose lucy (BW),
Roses,
Deep Elem,
Little Light,
Money For Gas,
Loser
Sugaree

anyone tell me where i can find a stream of the show

who sang sugaree? (Bob did in AP, John in Ithaca

Fun Fun Fun
Till my Daddy Takes my bong away

I just the Buffalo show is up on Archive

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-17.s unboy.flac16

just saw... mmm never stop now never stop.

....ssss.tttt.rrrr.eeee.aaaaa.mmmmm....

hit me at gratefuljones@gmail.com

Bobby sang sugaree

"Bobby sang sugaree"
Ughh!!

does anyone know if hamptons show is on the archive

there is video clip of barton hall on youtube of john doing sugaree

hamptons is up on archive

can you give me the link saint

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-17.s unboy.flac16

Check Sheas and click on Further to access other shows

Hampton is NOT up on archive yet

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12.a kg461.datbrad.106031.flac16

mike it is up, downloading it now

thanks Saint Excellent!

Fairfax hasnt made it yet

me too Joe! Great show

how about the patriot center

back to tonight..........?

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12.z oom-h2.carter.106063.flac24

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12.a kg461.datbrad.106031.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12.a kg483.king.106035.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-12.k m184.king.106039.flac16

HAMPTON 02.12.10?
sounds good to me

no patriot that i can see yet

Jimbear sent you an email

was at hampton, what a great show

back to tonight..........?

reminds me of the rush for cassettes!

Looks like patriot ctr is up on etree now I would quess it will make archive by tomorrow

Noone feeding set list tonight?

must be good

Heard Truckin opener. Not confirmed.

2/18/10
Manchester, NH
Furthur

stranger
loose lucy (BW),
Roses,
Deep Elem,
Little Light,
Money For Gas,
Loser
Sugaree

sugaree (BW) --lame!

just listened to jk soulfully bring alligator from last night. luvin it.

can't truck off to Buffalo just came from Buffalo!

Truckin->Deal

somthin happening, the dogs aint getting updates either. weird

Viola.

I'll pay this one off to you in lead...
jelly roll will drive you stone mad

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1,v2)

snappy on the road again last nite

Just to let everybody know, all of the FLAC SBD's from this tour are all available for free to downlod at www.demonoid.com, including the SBD of the Fairfax show... peace

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl

Just a thought that popped up out of nowhere. The Mohegan Sun is in an Indian nation. They have their own law enforcement. I never really heard of anyone not being treated fairly but remember it isn’t your grandfather’s venue :-) Just wanted to give a heads up.

grandfather???
damn I'm getting old!

My grandson loves to listen to grandpa's ipod!
For good reason to always have the latest show qued up

2nd nobody girl? they keep nodding to ryan adams. any feelings on wether or not i should get out and see him if i get a chance?

Ryan is very good in a small club for sure...

To Mike Fitz>>>>

Cuz she looked behind her....

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song

okay, I'll bite

What's 'turd song'?

what kind of custie question is that ?

okay I'll bite

what's at 'custie'?

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song
Born X Eyed

I had to look it up...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cus tie

custie

A poser. Someone who goes to a "jamband" show yet doesn't know anything about the band, goes to the show because its deemed cool, has subwoofers that play 50 Cent all day in their SUV, wears the stereotypical hippy clothing, and makes fun of people who talk about 'positive vibes' and 'positive energy.' This describes, in essence, 95% of all Widespread Panic fans and also would be appropriate terminology for 80% of the crowds at Phish shows from 1999 and on.
"Dude, what is Todd doing at this Phish show? That jackass wears polo shirts with flipped up collars and yet today he has flip flops on with patchwork pants and a retro Dead shirt on from 77! Todd wouldn't know good music if it bit him on the ass. What a custie!"

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song
Born X Eyed
Scarlet

why turd song . . . did Bob sing it?

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song
Born X Eyed
Scarlet
Fire

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song
Born X Eyed
Scarlet
Fire
Mags

Set 2

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Turd Song
Born X Eyed
Scarlet
Fire
Mags

Donor Rap

The Weight

Truckin' >
Deal,
Viola (v1-v3) >
Nobody Girl
Bird Song
Born X Eyed
Scarlet
Fire
Mags

Donor Rap

The Weight

It's a nice looking set, a little respect.

Hey ya'll I will offer a quick review since I just got up for school after less than 3 hour sleep.Whoo hooo!!! I gambled that I thought this show might be better than UMASS,after seeing the Buffalo set list. Well I fracked up!!!
Stranger was really good but the rest of the set they just eased into it. Roses was excellent as was Deep Elem.It was clear JK was alittle winded this night, he even let Bob sing Sugaree. It was well played but JK playing was not near the level of Ithaca.
Set two started off really well with a solid Truckin' that peaked nicely but JK was still putting his feet on the brake at times. Deal was a nice surprise and was a highlight of the night, but again JK did not tear it up
Viola, I was surprise they went for it, but pulled it off rather well, and was wicked good.
I enjoyed No Body's Girl, mellow ballad but the ending was nice and they jammed into Bird Song, which was also quite good, then jammed into B X Eyed, which had Bob missing his intro but then he got it right. The Scarlet> Fire was really good and Phil was right on.
The set closer Sugar Mag was ragin' and the SSDD was HUGE!!!
Nice ended with the Weight. Show was over at 11:45 pm, second set started like at 10 pm too.
I took some shots and will post later.
I have a feeling Amherst will be much better from start to finish.We'll see if I will be slapping my self silly tomorrow.I heard it is sold out as well? Safe travels.
Se ya in Utica

JK does not 'let' Bob play anything..he sings what Bob lets him sing, and is fucking grateful....when will you high school heads learn that DSO is a fucking joke, JK is easily the THe MOST unorigonal player to ever play with the boys and cant sing for shit, and Billy and Mickey were too right to sit this farce out? the day Jay Lame can drum as well as Mickey or Billys foot will be a cold day in hell...also if you need to call Bird Song anything else, even if it is sung by JK, you dont belong at ANY show, asswipe

Andrew, lotsa hate and little love. Someone needs a hug.

Had a killer time last night.
Luxury suite comped by my buddy.
Free ticket.
Tough ride from boston on 93 north on the ride up.
Wanted to kill.
Show was awesome.
So hurting at work today. Not even funny.
Wearing same clothes and my eyes give away the face that I had fun last night.

Think I'm gonna ride the bus to UMASS tonight.
Might as well.

Andrew Holtan... I feel so bad for you. This is how you see it all. If you HONESTLY think Dark Star Orchestra is a joke you... you are just looking at things the wrong way. When a band has a whole venue full of people dancing to Grateful Dead music and in a true state of bliss at every show... is that joke? They are just deadheads. If you knew anything of what you're talking about... you'd know that JK is an extremely original player... The man is a classicly trained violinist and taught him self guitar. I can promise you a man named Jerry Garcia would listen to JK and tell you he is anything but unoriginal.

Here is my review. The show was beautiful.


So, a few seconds after arriving to my seat the strange night had already begun. Stranger was very good... John's solo brought the music to such a high plane. This is when I realized JK was not waiting for cues the band had more of a group mind going.. they were just doing it. Loose Lucy was cool, the original phrasing did not come to mind... Bobby sings this well. Wonderful light, although most of the show my eyes were closed... it really was great. Roses came and I was so happy... it was beautiful. I was already so fulfilled, just as Phil was... he had his back toward the crowd and was just feeling the love. Nice jam into Deep Elem which was a great version.. grooved. I wasn't sure at first what Just A Little Light was for I am not all that familiar with the song. It was so awesome to hear John sing a Brent song. Money For Gasoline was also something I was sure of at first but soon figured out it was a Ratdog song. The harmonies were very strong, this is where I first really felt the presence of Zoe and Brecker. John went right into Loser... oh man, so nice. As I said, I was hearing the John I knew from DSO. Naturally, he is much more comfortable after another month of playing in the band. Sugaree was a nice surprise since it had just been played at Barton Hall. Bobby stepped up and sang a great version. I also came to the realization that who sings what is just unfolding drama. At this point John is sing a lot... if Bobby decides to sing a Sugaree I am going to embrace it and I truly did. It was just more bliss... John was bouncing around watching it all happen. Phil... Phil is just a Zen Master. He is a shaman. From where I was, you couldn't tell if you was 30 or 70 years of age. Such good interaction with John in building up the jam. Intense solo by Chimenti.

Very well behaved crowd... your normal share of bus chasers or touch of greyers what ever you want to call it... people who are there for reasons other than the music... There were these black tent like things with no tops that the band was hanging out in,,, one on each side of the stage. Phil went into one by himself for a while as the rest of the band was in the other... I couldn't see what he was doing inside. Possibly making a sandwich.

Lights out... really nice jam, the shuffle starts so I was feeling the Truckin'... John comes in... In a different incarnation... the known jam that gradually rises and then explodes a lot of the time usually wouldn't happen. Here it did and it was amazing. Phil was even more in the mix now. I put the transition in bold because of how good it was. John navigated this and dropped right into Deal. Which was just amazing. "Amazing" was a common theme for me and this show, I hope it was for everyone else as well!.. I have never heard a Viola Lee Blues; I was psyched. Everyone in the band was just becoming one... the vocals on Viola Lee were so strong. This is what it is all about. Then as my dad titled it... the Acid Test Jam. This was going so far out... John did some wild things. Then... another powerful verse of Viola Lee. The jam into Nobody Girl sounded a bit like When I Paint My Masterpiece... took a bit to get started because Bob put on his pink guitar, I think it is a Modulus, then realized he wanted to play his Fender.. Nobody Girl was nice, I was hoping to hear a Ryan Adams song. The jam into Birdsong was very good and the intro was strong... Phil sang this version and I have honestly never heard his voice better. The vocals were so inspiring and I was not thinking, "I wish John would have sang this one"... it wasn't even as I was purposefully not thinking that thought. I was just so in the here and now it didn't matter. Birdsong started to get really meditativ, John was messing with some different tones. Russo was also doing some really cool things... he has learned the way of the playing with Phil. Him and Jay Lane are perfect for the band in my opinion. Another strong jam and transition in Born Cross-Eyed. I have never heard Bobby sing this as well as he did here... and I've never experienced a better version as a whole. Then a short jam came and John eased his way into making the Scarlet Begonias very clear. This Scarlet Fire was beautiful,,, just transcendental. I was just so happy to be experiencing this and as that thought came to my mind Sugar Magnolia. I have always felt this song as suffered over the years... weird tempo. The Letterman version during the spring Dead tour would be a good example. Something different happened here...this was without a doubt the best Sugar Magnolia I have ever seen. I'm interested in what more experienced heads thought this was particularly special. Bobby was awe-inspiring... the energy flowed all through Sunshine Daydream and it kept getting stronger and stronger.

"I know you guys always hear this but I'm going to keep saying it".. great Donor Rap...

The Weight... this was just exactly perfect. John took the first verse or two, Bobby the second... then Phil took the Rick Danko verse. It was so cool to hear this done the GD way, with shared verses and all.

Andrew Holtan, if you hate this incarnation so much, why are you here? Seriously. Is it to spread the blackness oozing from your heart and (hopefully for you) at least partially ruin other people's good feelings about this band/the show they were at? I feel sorry for you. You are carrying around a lot of anger.

Guess that means you won't be going to any furthur shows. ;) Don't need your negativity there. Bobby and Phil are lucky to have John. They are looking more alive than in many years. Fyi, I've been on the bus since '74.

"It's a nice looking set, a little respect."

On paper this is indeed a nice looking set. But with Furthur- the devil's in the details. With Phil & Bob taking the Jerry songs and giving JK a dose of Ryan Adams instead, this is a classic bait and switch.

Hey Holtan. You need to get laid or get lost, but your crap isn't doing you or anybody else any good.

Ted, I agree that they/JK were holding back at times. And it was still good.

andrew holtan is trippin hard. right steve?

I'm really looking forward to this show. I've been on the bus since '73 and have never seen JK so very excited to see him play with the boys. Thought it was funny last night that they did Truckin (off to Buffalo) when they just trucked off FROM Buffalo. Being from "the flo" I thought that funny. By the way the set list in Buffalo looked KILLER. Can't wait to hear it. See you guys later.

By the way can anyone verify the actual start time of the opener. I heard 10 mins after ticket time. I predict a Jack Straw opener.

Ain't no time to hate.....

Andrew Holtan (Lovehaight) and Pete Jennings (Pete441) are probably representative of a larger number of overall "heads" who don't want to or won't even bother to join the fray of these very forums...even the total # of everybody who is an active member here is an incredibly small sample of worldwide "fans", "heads" of the Grateful Dead "proper"-by which I mean the band with Jerry Garcia, regardless of era and demarcation by keyboard player (Pigpen, TC, Keith, Brent, Vince). And by the way, a pre-requisite part of being able to claim oneself as a bona-fide "Dead Head" involves having actually seen at least once if not actually "going on tour" (the) Grateful Dead.

Yes, on one hand this latest venture is about taking the experience/dynamic/ but above all the music "further" (who decreed "it" had to end with the passing of Garcia? Even he espoused the notion that "whatever you do, don't be lame" and that the music wasn't proprietary to him and him alone) and those that understand the dynamics understand this music is now (if not from their pre-existence, but that's likely too heavy for some) in the genetic make-up of Phil, Bob, Bill and Mickey...("we used to play for silver, now we play for life"; like these guys cannot not play this music, it's in their blood). They don't have to explain themselves and probably really couldn't; either you understand or you don't--on the bus or not it's not their edict to mandate your decision one way or another...and when has this music EVER been static, anyway? there's always been as little as year-to year variation of the dynamic evolution on this trip: from '66 to '68 it changed, then changed again up to '72 then again post Pigpen to '74, then '76-'78, then '79, then '87, etc etc.


I disagree they're doing for any more money not when in the current economic climate what it costs to tour and tickets were faced at some venues for as little as $25-$45 and they're booking venues as small as 3,500 person capacity (while not dismissing this is perhaps in large part due because they couldn't fill a larger venue/charge more without the "core four" with whoever in the lead guitarist slot),

...Jay Lane (Lame? cannot hold Mickey's mallets, but Mickey is not THE only drummer/percussionist allowed to play with the other three...(or see "the Other Ones" when Bill sat things out...). I had my doubts about Joe Russo but he is a tremendous drummer and to observe the interaction on stage is to see that the players on stage are playing in service of the music, and that's really the core essence of (all this).

but the reality is a very strong argument can be made this is "a sham"...a vaudevillian-type lounge act, as it were...it really comes down to perspective and frame of reference....and at the very least, the majority of people have difficulty maintaining an objective perspective...

I had a thought when attending one of the several DSO shows I saw a few years back when some "sister" wanted others who were singing along to stop cause she only wanted to hear "the band": wait this is a "cover/tribute band" with people who literally (and obviously) are not Phil, Bob nor Jerry up there; what is it you're trying to "preserve"? No one can sing along to a cover band in a bar? I'm certain the absurdity of this is self-evident. This was a few years ago and I was similarly reminded last week when attending a Further show in Hampton and being on the floor when a few teenage fans beat feet to get closer to the stage, and I thought, "Relax: Jerry's gone folks, been gone for nigh on 15 years...". But then who am I to deny "it's not just a change in style", and for (yet) another generation maybe this is their "it"; this is how they experience "it", and if they never got to experience it with "Jerry" and it's impossible for me to experience my "it"-cause "there's nothing you can hold very long", doesn't make their "it" and their "trip" any less valid.

steven!!!
get the hell out of sandras underwear drawer!!!

>>>>Here is my review. The show was beautiful...

.. great Donor Rap... >>>>

HOLY SHIT!

Now I've been in some flare ups recently for coming down on the reviews around here as too positive, but man this is HILARIOUS!

How was the house PA music between sets!?!?!

HA! Seriously though, must've been a pretty hot show indeed :-)

I don't know why, it's the same reason why you like some music and you don't like others. There's something about it that you like. Ultimately I don't find it's in my best interests to try and analyze it, since it's fundamentally emotional.
Jerry Garcia

Roses & Deep Elem would do it for me

Hey, I read the overall response by Chuckster and even though he may be over-articulating things a little I agree with him. The band is probably not doing this for the big payoff I mean really, these guys are playing 4 nites straight and travelling around in a bus half the time to what...end up in beautiful Utica!! I think they are doing what alot of people do when they come to the twilight of their careers. Their sort of re-capitulating what they did early on in their tour days. They're playing college venues like they used to and reaching not only their travelling fans (heads) but to a younger college crowd who will someday be the ones to carry on their legacy.

I'm totally in to it and have been in it since '73. Unfortunately, I can't really tour any more so I see a few shows here and there and hope for my favorites with a good flow to the show as well.

See you guys later!!

Amen,! Chuckster. You nailed it with your comments. Just as o two people have the same exact perception of the same show, we all have our opinions on the path forward. Take what you can and leave the rest!

I don't agree with Chuckster in that I don't think most "Deadheads" take it as seriously as LoveHaight.

Not too many Deadheads I know are that sensitive and protective of Bob Weir.

His comments remind of the character that the late Bruno Kirby used to do -- you know the guy who is so protective of everything Frank Sinatra -- he did it in Spinal Tap playing the limo driver. One of my favorite lines was

"Excuse me, are you reading 'Yes I Can by Sammy Davis, Jr."

"You know what the title of the book should be? Yes I can, if Frank Sinatra says it's okay...cause Frank calls the shots for all those guys"

JK sings what Bob Weir let's him sing, godammit!!

And what was with LoveHaight's whole "How dare you call Bird Song, 'Turd Song', you asswipe!" thing? That's just some twisted shit right there. I think he represents a small minority of "Deadheads".

HMMM-I guess it is true what they say. "One man gathers what another man spills". Keep spilling because I will always be thirsty for more.

This section is for show reviews. It is a pretty simple set up. There are plenty of places in the zone where you guys can debate, love and hate. Otherwise it's pretty annoying for people who want to read show reviews.

"Otherwise it's pretty annoying for people who want to read the show reviews." Hmmm-Why do you feel the need to speak for "people" and not for JP? I like the silly banter the day after a show. JK sucks, JK is channeling Jerry, Bob fucked up another line. It is the review section but this banter is as old as any post in the zone.

Lovehaight, its more like...Phil lets Bobby tell John what to do. Phil could easily take this guy solo and do very well without Weir, and split the Jerry songs with himself.. lets not forget who is really in charge here.

Just for the record they were playing Marley before the lights went down for the second set.
Here are some shots, security was tight so no flopping onto the floor this one, so they are all from 104
Birdsong

Truckin'

Jam into Truckin'

It Must have been the Roses

That the problem with the Internet - it allows morons like Andrew Holtan (Lovehaight)voice their opinion.....

Guess that's what our for-fathers faught for

i think its pretty simple.....people are totally entitled to their opinion...if they paid the 50 dollars and want to come in here and kill it it is their right...i will read it and take out of it what i actually believe and what is bullshit.....i just pray that im not standing /sitting next to that guy..because only 2 things would happen....i just hope he waited til this forum to spew his terrorism because if he was standing next to me doing it he would have had a major problem...going to a show and being normal and then killing it afterwards is fine...just dont ruin it while it is happening for people who are actually enjoying it and having a good time.....let him go spend 200 dollars and go to a u2 concert..then he can complain...for the rest of us who have been doing this for any amount of time and being normal we shouldnt have to put up with him at a show....i personally believe they are trying their best and it is what it is and you know what? i like it and thats all that matters and of course being kind to my brothers and sisters...hate to say it... but dont let 1 bad apple spoil the whole bag....im glad its not 75000 people or even 20,000...and i think john is living his dream and should polish his rainbow and not listen to this diatribe of bullshit...and i do agree at this stage of the game he is bringing the best out of bob and phil that at this stage they can offer....i hope our fallen brother can find his way home....aint no time for hate....

If your are smart and seen a furthur show please don't post any kind of a negative review if you know what is good for you.

They are by far the greatest band going right now and the guitar player maybe the most original and inventive player ever.

I think it is a shame for most posters (like me) to even waste a sentence on a pant-load like Andrew Holten, who's calling card has little to do with musical knowledge than it is to relish throwing flames because of his "edgy attitude". Great, all heart, no brain. Whatever. Fact is, JK has more Dead DNA running through his system (through hard work and study) than any previous guitarist post-Jer. You don't like him? Don't go. And save us the bandwidth with your knuckedragging petty attitude. Onward, indeed.

This music (and I along with it) has suffered through 15 years of guest guitarists who have brought their own "original" perspective to the mix.

In the immortal words of David St. Hubbins of Spinal Tap, at this point, it has amounted to "Too much fucking perspective".

Someone back at the beginning of the tour posted that the boys have been fighting gravity for 15 years, and finally made the choice to let go.

JK brings the voice we all know has been lacking in EVERY incarnation of EVERY project since 8-9-95. He was put on this earth at this time to do this job, period.

I applaud the haters actually, they serve an incredibly important purpose helping the uninterested make the choice to stay away from the scene, and for that we should all be GRATEFUL (~);}

Misingfinger - Best post EVER!

Misingfinger - Best post EVER!

>JK brings the voice we all know has been lacking in EVERY incarnation of EVERY project since 8-9-95. He was put on this earth at this time to do this job, period. <

I wasn't there last night, and I'm glad you had a real good time. Personally, I'm wondering if I would be comfortable listening to a Jerry "sound-a-like." I've seen the Dead since the days of Pigpen, and to say "he was put on this earth to do this job," to me is pure fallacy. Absolutely assinine,IMO.

Personally, I loved and respected the vocals of Haynes, Baracco, Osborne, Adams etc. because they did bring a different perspective to the music. I didn't want to hear somebody "who sounds just like Jerry." He's gone..nobody can replace it.

Maybe I'm off base because I haven't seen this tour. Maybe I'll dig it in the context of the show - I don't know. We'll see.

Dude, I have seen this tour and you right about the others adding a different perspective to the dead sound. The DSO guy sings like Jerry which I found off putting, the guitar playing is another story entirely, but to each his own.

I never went to see DSO, not into cover bands. Phil and Bob must know what they are doing pulling this guy in with them.

Oh, I wasn't there last night either...have only seen Furthur twice for the the 2 shows in SF New years Run, but I've seen every incarnation post 8-9-95 and 255 GD Shows prior + 3 dozen JGB.

Of course, opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and I have mine, but I stand by my previous assertion. The addition of JK was only a matter of time..as Kesey once infamously said "you can't quit the mob" (Bonus points will be awarded to anyone who can correctly cite the time and location of that quote)

From Kimock to Haynes, Herring to Greene and everyone in between, they all only danced on the edge of the cliff. The time has finally come, and the Good Lord did indeed put JK here to take us Boldly where everyone else has feared to tread.

The more folks who disagree with me the better as far as I'm concerned.

The time for playthings is over.

...This one goes to 11

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Couple quick reviews from friends who were there - pretty much confirmed what I thought after seeing the setlist: I'm glad I didn't spend the time and money to get there...


"Some high spots. Overall I thought the show lacked some energy.
It wasn't completely flat but it wasn't anywhere near raging either"

"First set was ok at best--slow and sleepy and Bobby could not remember
any words. The Deep Elum, Loser, Sugaree close was nice.

Bobby literally did not got one sentence of loose lucy even close, so he
kept seeing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The 5 song show closer killed it.

On the up side, the band was very tight, albeit a little tired"

Bob is pathetic!

I think I'm done posting here for now. A review can't be too positive if that is what I truly experienced. If some of you have been seeing the band since the 60's wouldn't you be happy and embrace the fact that Phil and Bobby are still playing this music? Not to mention better than they have in a long time. Listen to Phil now... look at his face... He is playing like PHIL, he doesn't have to be the boring bass player anymore to make sure the music is line. This is because of John... he lives this music.. if some of you can't see past all of your drama of how he sounds to similar to this and just embrace this band then that is a shame.

>The time for playthings is over.<

Just stating my opinion too.

"They all danced on the edge of the cliff?" WTF?

To make things crystal clear, when I see this band live, I'll tell you what I think of it. I hope JK is great, and blends in well.

"put on this earth" though, is bit over the top don't you think?

>>I'm glad I didn't spend the time and money to get there...

With that attitude, I'm glad you didn't either.


FWIW, here's a non hear-say review:

Manchester, NH
Verizon Wireless Arena 2/18/10

Stranger - One of my fav openers, so it was VERY welcome. Played well, jammed out longer than usual. The ladies sang GREAT harmonies.
Loose Lucy(BW) - If I have to hear Bob sing a Jerry song, this one is just fine. It rocked nicely despite the Bobby vocals.
Roses - Oooh I love this one and JK did it justice. Sweet - just like it should be.
Deep Elem - Bobby and JK shared verses (I think) and it was up and peppy. Well done.
Little Light - I am a moderate Brent fan at best, and this would be the song of his I like best - but JK does not add anything to this song, imho. Oh well.
Money For Gasoline - I'm sorry, but this song feels like a Phish song to me. Next...
Loser - Alright! Here we go. That's better. JK played and sang it very well.
Sugaree (BW) - After they let JK sing this at Barton Hall, why oh why did Bobby take it back over? Me no likee the Bobby Sugaree...

Set 2

Truckin' > - Rockin' it, and Bobby got most of the lyrics right, I think.
Deal - Keeping it rocking. Well done - JK really ripped in the appropriate places.
Viola (v1-v3) > THIS WAS A HUGE ROCKER! NO SANDWICH, JUST THE GOODS STRAIGHT OUT!
Nobody Girl > I like Ryan more than most Zoners, but this was a set stopper. Sorry JK.
Birdsong (PL) > Well done and well jammed - and I do like Phil singing - Phil got a BIG ovation from the floor when he started to sing. Nice!
Born Cross Eyed > A slab of raw meat - I like this song and am glad they continue to play it.
Scarlet > OH YEAH! Just like the old days and they let JK sing BOTH Scarlet and Fire - THANK YOU Phil and Bobby for letting JK sing both parts!
Fire, Had the whole place dancing like the old days. The Scarlet>Fire was the best part of the evening for me.
Sug Mag - Nicely done and the SSDD was a big whomp!

E: The Weight - Well done. Nice encore.

All in all a good show, not a great show, but a good one, but it sure beats sitting at home on a Thursday night trying to justify to yourself why you didn't go.

yeah lets replace Bob with the douche from Dog Shit who thinks he's Bob...moron

Bullet with Butterfly Wings in Delaware tonight just for you, Andrew Holtan.

Having attended this show and now having listened to it, the Viola Lee on this is over-the-top, tripped out stuff. The jam between verses 2 and 3 is particularly manic.