2008-10-04 Verizon Wireless - Charlotte, NC

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tully (Wrattully) on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:56 pm: Edit Post

DOES ANYONE KNOW?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric (The11jam) on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:30 pm: Edit Post

Cumberland
Gone wanderin
rock n roll blues?
Minglewood
Row Jimmy
Golden road
UJB
Dark Star >
So Many Roads >
Dark Star >
Midnight Hour


E: Cosmic Charlie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tully (Wrattully) on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:32 pm: Edit Post

THANK YOU!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Herrling (Meltdown) on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:55 pm: Edit Post

As someone lucky enough to have attended the Merriweather show, I had hoped that various band members would have jammed with the other band. Anybody know what gives? Warren and Derek have played with Phil in the past... Is there a feud?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mc (Wahoo) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 12:08 am: Edit Post

No feud, just two very different bands. let it go everybody, please.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spliffy McGee (Spliffymcgee) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 01:42 am: Edit Post

Just don't see Dark Star working when opening for the Allmans. Toothless Methheads must have been wiggin out screaming in vain for people to sit down(and help fight the spiders crawling over them).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bzl (Bzlrbi) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 08:40 am: Edit Post

I'm pretty sure Phil closed this show, so no worries about a too-early Dark Star.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By giggler (Joangroupie) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:01 am: Edit Post

seemed like eternity last night...... Did not know when it began or ended...... Wish i could have stayed on til the end but still have 14 nokia shows to come.....

Cumberland
Gone Wanderin
Rock n Roll Blues
Minglewood
Row Jimmy
Golden Rd
UJB
Jam (super insane)
Dark Star
So Many Roads
Dark Star
Midnight Hour

e: Cosmic Charlie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Alger (Alger) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:44 am: Edit Post

Jackie and Molo played w/ ABB.

And Jackie got "the nod" from Derek.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Thomas Walley (Philmeup65) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:51 am: Edit Post

wish i could of made it to this show! if i hadn't moved to boston i'd probably be doin' this whole allmans and phil tour. MIDNIGHT HOUR! HELL YEAH! its great to see so many roads on the set list now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Denaz (Denaz) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:55 am: Edit Post

My review,

Cumberland started the show and it was off to the races, get down and jam Cumberland. got to get back to the mines!!!

Gone Wandering, I like this Jackie tune, has this twang to it that is groovy,

Some New Phil Song, it was OK, first time I heard this tune, needs alot of work, I think this is where PB got stuck, Minglewood was rocking and rolling, Jackie got the vocals down,
Row Jimmy, Thersa nailed the vocals and the harmonies were great,

Golden Road, Now this was the highlight for me, the band nailed this song and the section I was in exploded with energy, the security guards couldnt hold us back, it was a free for all dance fest!!!

Uncle John's Band was perfect, Phil likes to double time this song and he did it a couple of times and the reprise was exploritory!!!

Dark Star>
So Many Roads>
Dark Star v.2>
Phil took the above and went beyond the astral plane, this set is a definite requirement to get the download, the transitions were unexpected and bright!!

Midnight Hour, again the section I was in went total anarchist, the security threws their hands in the air and gave up, the place went nuts,

Cosmic Charlie
"Gone on home your mama's calling you!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By J.R. Griffin (Yurtle) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 11:12 am: Edit Post

Anybody know what happened to Barry Sless in charlotte? I could swear they had a pedal steel on the stage, but never saw him or heard him.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 11:40 am: Edit Post

Dark Star>
So Many Roads>
Dark Star v.2>

Yikes!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mandala (Mandala) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 12:04 pm: Edit Post

>>>they had a pedal steel on the stage

larry has always had a pedal steel for himself (except when barry is playing)

>>>And Jackie got "the nod" from Derek.

nice 2 know the "buffalo on meth" is also so sensitive...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george (Gms777) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 02:11 pm: Edit Post

Denaz above puts it well. An all-around strong show that got better and better as it went along. And 'Uncle John's Band' really was perfect.

Come to think of it, so were Golden Road, Dark Star, Midnight, and Cosmic which concluded with a barber-shop vocal ending.

I'd like to see Theresa have more to do on stage. She is amusing to watch. She looks like she wandered up from the audience, and she can't believe she's hanging out with those guys....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By david (Dbertsch) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 02:38 pm: Edit Post

The last show I was at before this was Charlottesville in July, so the Minglewood in this one was a little bit less intense, but I got chills during Jackie's vocal at the end of So Many Roads. Midnight Hour and Golden Road were a ton of fun, too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By thank you jerry (Deliadelion) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 02:44 pm: Edit Post

Rock'n'Roll Blues isn't new. It's the last song on There and Back Again.

I thought it was very well played last night; much more exciting than the recorded version!

Loved the Allmans' set but loved it even more when their fans cleared out and left many empty seats down front for us Phil-folks :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spliffy McGee (Spliffymcgee) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 03:22 pm: Edit Post

Was Barry there last night?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pastawilly (Billolick) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 03:40 pm: Edit Post

http://www.philzone.com/shows/index-081004.html


seemingly so


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By david (Dbertsch) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 04:29 pm: Edit Post

I don't think I saw him actually. Those setlist backgrounds are sometimes from earlier shows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Denaz (Denaz) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 06:13 pm: Edit Post

Barry was not there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Judge Decreed It (Decree) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 08:42 pm: Edit Post

Well . . . this is embarrassing. I went and presumably enjoyed the hell out of this show. Too bad I don't remember much of anything between Cumberland and Cosmic Charlie, LOL.

Got into the brown liquor at the tailgate pre show in honor of the Allmans and I think it blacked me out. Really enjoyed the part of their set I saw/recall.

Can't wait for the tapes to see if anything comes back to me :^)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Judge Decreed It (Decree) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 08:56 pm: Edit Post

Check out the Allman's set:

Done Somebody Wrong
Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
Same Thing
Gambler's Roll
Ain't Wasting Time No More
Manic Depression
Come and Go Blues
Come On Into My Kitchen*
Into The Mystic
Dreams
Black-Hearted Woman
Southbound **

Encore: Whipping Post

*1w/Larry Campbell - Fiddle
**1w/Jackie Green - Guitar; John Molo - Drums

My hazy memory tells me that Southbound was off the hook nasty.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Beard (Bbeard76) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:29 pm: Edit Post

has there been any recordings of the ABB shows?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john chandler (Johnnyb) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:46 pm: Edit Post

Just for the record the main setlist page on the Philzone states that this was the first Rock & roll Blues since 8-30-02 but it was played on 9-22-08 at the Sweetwater Sessions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Judge Decreed It (Decree) on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:51 pm: Edit Post

Brian I'm out there looking for ABB stuff right now. I know there are aud tapes and there were tapers there, but it seems ABB tapers/traders are old school. Vines, B&P, etree list FTP. didn't see any torrents, which is all I usually do now because of the ease and efficiency.

Hopefully some stuff will turn up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Kirkwood (Drifter67) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:40 am: Edit Post

Not to be negative or a nay sayer, but I thought the set Phil played in Charlotte was probably the worst set of music I have ever seen. I thought the Allman Brothers really laid it down and was excited to see what Phil would come out with following the strong opening set. All I can say is, for me, and pretty much all the rest of the group I was with, the set lacked energy, direction, tempo.
Cumberland is a fun song, but I just don't see it as an opener.
Gone Wonderin' - I do like Jackie Green, but placed after Cumberland didn't do much for me.
Rock n Roll Blues - Phil just should not sing slow tempo songs, period.
No T right here in Charlotte type line was dissapointing. I didn't really enjoy the tempo of this version either.
I actually liked the Row Jimmy, but again, lots of slow at this point.
Golden Road - Finally something with a true beat, but just because it's a fast song doesn't mean the groove was fully realised. I've heard stronger versions of this song by this band on tape.
UJB - Could this had been any slower. Seemed like the verses were never ending, and the little caliypso (sp?) feel didn't work for me at all the way they played it.
And so for a Dark Star to come after all this with me feeling like a slow tempo show was not working at all. Sorry again, but I have always felt that Dark Star should come from a special place, not just a point in time on the setlist, and this wasn't it.
It did lead to the highlight of the show for me, however, (yes, a slow song highlight!). I thought Jackie sounded beautiful, and heartfelt. So Many Roads indeed.
Verse 2 - Theresa scared the hell out of me with her vocal. Dark Star turned opera.
Midnight Hour - Thought it was a train wreck.
E: Cosmic Charlie - Sounded like a bubble gum pop version.

So, no, I didn't enjoy the show. Will I go see Phil when he plays here again? Absolutely!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chrisl68 (Chrisl68) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:40 am: Edit Post

I went to both Raleigh and Charlotte and thought the Allman Brothers blew Phil off the stage both times, and I was expecting to be more stoked for Phil.

The Allmans were off the hook however.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Judge Decreed It (Decree) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:31 am: Edit Post

Heh, OK, I think I'm glad I don't remember much from these reviews!

Call it a 'forgettable' show.

Definitely working on getting the ABB tapes, they rocked the party.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Bowman (Sunking) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:21 pm: Edit Post

I don't think it was a 'forgettable' show...The Rock and Roll Blues and Gone Wonderin were lackluster, but the rest of the show was great...I thought the Cosmic Charlie and Midnight Hour were absolutely fantastic, and the Dark Star was quite spacey...

Anyone know if the torrent is up anywhere yet?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mermaid (Mermaid) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:06 pm: Edit Post

this show had its ups (golden road, so many roads) and downs (dark star v2 - vocals all wrong, rock n roll blues -- what a clunker) and was overall less consistent than raleigh, which i thought was quite good. allmans were incredible both nights, though the sound was better (at least where we were) in raleigh.

great to see friends and zoners. good times!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By CrypticAlex (Alexw) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 04:26 pm: Edit Post

>>>Wish i could have stayed on til the end but still have 14 nokia shows to come.....

Jeez, Giggler...you must have more disposable income and more time than I.

You have a day job?? You're a photographer, correct? (I know I've seen some of your photos on this site, and they're nice).

Man, I love Phil and wish I was back in my old hometown for Nokia, but I don't think I could pull off anything like 14 shows, especially for this lineup (now the Q, perhaps 7 or 8).

Well, more power to ya!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By trippy (Trippy) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 09:15 pm: Edit Post

wow i was wondering if it was just me, but i thought this was the worst phil show i ever saw... glad to see that others concur.

the brothers were smoking hot, phil just couldn't get it together... too bad, but every one is entitled to an off night


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GGL - (Good_gal_lovely_) on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 09:35 pm: Edit Post

>>>She is amusing to watch. She looks like she wandered up from the audience, and she can't believe she's hanging out with those guys....

I Dig "Hot Mama" on stage, that Larry is a Lucky Man :-)
I luv watchin' her sing/groove Here Comes Sunshine


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By The Judge Decreed It (Decree) on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 04:01 pm: Edit Post

Sunking, still can't locate a torrent, but there's one up on Archive.org:
http://www.archive.org/details/plf2008-10-04.mg210 .flac16


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joel Campanella (Uncle_j) on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:11 pm: Edit Post

My two cents on Charlotte ... The pedal steel was on stage but never used. Barry Sless was not there. Larry didn't play it. Where was Barry? After Larry played the fiddle with the Allmans and then Molo and Jackie came up, we were hoping that Warren or Derek might return the phun. No such luck. Every song in Raleigh had a bit of country with Barry's pedal steel going - even Standing on the Moon. Not Charlotte. Interesting Other One jam by the Allmans. Jackie, Derek and Warren had a great time. Dark Star likely was way too spacey for the hard core Allman fans. If they hadn't left yet, they did then. 8th row center in Raleigh. Front row center in Charlotte. I didn't see as much joy in the playing as I saw a year ago or more. I love this band, however. Phil seemed frustrated with his on-stage sound man quite frequently. I suppose one set shows aren't as good as two set shows. At 6PM both nights, the house was empty. It felt like a private show in a tiny bar to start. Later, I looked back and saw the lawn almost full both nights.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Bowman (Sunking) on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 05:01 pm: Edit Post

Thanks so much Decree--you made my day!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By J.R. Griffin (Yurtle) on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 09:37 pm: Edit Post

Barry Sless

Phil Lesh & Friends

SEPT 30 - Merriweather Post Pavilion
Columbia, MD
OCT 1 - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
Virginia Beach, VA
OCT 3 - Walnut Creek Amphitheatre
Raleigh, NC
OCT 7 - Verizon Wireless Music Center
Pelham, AL
OCT 8 - The Amphitheatre At The Wharf
Orange Beach, AL

Great American Taxi

OCT 13 - Trocadero's
Minneapolis, MN
OCT 14 - The Waterfront
Menomonie, WI
OCT 15 - Martyr's
Chicago, IL
OCT 16 - The Mousetrap
Indianapolis, IN
OCT 17 - The Fishtank
Lexington, KY
OCT 18 - Sunshine Daydream
Tera Alta, WV


Glad I'm not the only one who didn't see Barry, lol. I thought the ABB were on fire, and Phil, despite sound problems onstage the show was great, and I've downloaded it and listened again. It wasn't as good as the ABB, but it wasn't the worst anything.Jackie Green made some more fans in Charlotte.