Setlists?

Furthur 6/30/2010 MA Set 1: Direwolf, Mississippi Halfstep, Friend Of The Devil,

thanks, tyler!

Furthur 6/30/2010 MA Set 1: Direwolf, Miss. Halfstep, FOTD, Tenn Jed,

Thanks Tyler. I was really hoping they would save the half-step for 7/2.

Furthur 6/30/2010 MA Set 1: Miss Halfstep, Direwolf, FOTD, Tenn Jed, Deal, Bertha

did bertha end the first set

Mississippi Halfstep
Direwolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Furthur
Wed. June 30th
LeLacheur Park, Lowell, MA

Set 1

Mississippi Half Step
Dire Wolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
Minglewood Blues
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Furthur
Wed. June 30th
LeLacheur Park, Lowell, MA

Set 1

Mississippi Half Step
Dire Wolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood Blues
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

thanks for the updates!!

Eight out of nine are Jerry tunes. Think they did this in reaction to the comments about "too many Bobby songs" in last night's second set?

Furthur
Wed. June 30th
LeLacheur Park, Lowell, MA

Set 1

Dire Wolf
Mississippi Half Step
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood Blues
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

break

Lookin good in Mass. tonight.

Bertha is the first repeat of the tour, fine by me!

Anyone know who sang which tunes?

is there anybody out there??

Just nod if you can hear me ...

Furthur
Wed. June 30th
LeLacheur Park, Lowell, MA

Set I

Dire Wolf
Mississippi Half Step
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood Blues
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil Song?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven

Set I

Mississippi Halfstep
Direwolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven>
William Tell Bridge>
Fire On The Mountain>
The Wheel>
So Many Roads

Mississippi Halfstep
Direwolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven>
William Tell Bridge>
Fire On The Mountain>
The Wheel>
So Many Roads>
Playing in the Band

we're here. Thanks for posting

liking the looks of that 2nd set!

Mississippi Halfstep
Direwolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven>
William Tell Bridge>
Fire On The Mountain>
The Wheel>
So Many Roads>
Playing in the Band

Turn to some one you love and tell them...If somthing happens to me I want to be a donor.

E: Ripple

over on deadheadland on facebook, they're reporting "i know you rider" after playin'...

Furthur
Wed. June 30th
LeLacheur Park, Lowell, MA

Mississippi Halfstep
Direwolf
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven>
William Tell Bridge>
Fire On The Mountain>
The Wheel>
So Many Roads>
Playing in the Band
I know you Rider

Turn to some one you love and tell them...If somthing happens to me I want to be a donor.

E: Ripple

The 1st set was all Jerry tunes except Minglewood? Wow.

Who sang what??

....and a 2nd set China Rider Dagwood. Interesting.

Wow. A lot of repeats. Not that I'm complaining. I'd rather hear good than different. Just an observation.

The two Coney shows had so much meaty 2nd set tunes it would be hard not to repeat a bunch. I was expecting an Ashes and Glass > Two Djinn sort of thing tonight. Good to see they are giving the people what they want!

Just got in after some horrendous traffic (both going in and getting home was an ordeal). Got in during Friend (at 6:25!), but at least we could hear Half Step from a couple blocks away. Venue itself was great. Bertha and Doin' That Rag both rocked pretty hard. 2nd set from the 11 onward was just great. Wasn't a big fan of the mellow TOO, but it was still good. Don't remember hearing a William Tell bridge - certainly not the words anyway.

So 15 years ago tonight, I saw my last Grateful Dead show at Three Rivers. Before driving down from New Hampshire that morning, I told my girlfriend that it would be great to hear Terrapin. Sure enough Jerry pulled it out, then he threw in his last Standing on the Moon for good measure. It had me in tears as I stood at the very top of that stadium with a lovely view of heaven (I had to leave my girlfriend behind in NH as she was still in school and I had just graduated).

15 years on, my girlfriend is now my wife. We got a sitter for the kids so that we could catch the show together. They pull out a nice Fire for me (it had been heavy on my playlist during marathon training with the Liver Team earlier this year). But the kicker was the encore that I knew was coming - we had just played Ripple at my father-in-law's funeral last month. Somehow, they always know what songs you need to hear. We still miss you Dad. Thank you Mrs. Lesh or whoever called it. It meant a lot to us.

Missed half the first set due to the traffic snarl.

Doin' That Rag was an unexpected surprise.

Sugaree was great as usual.

The standalone Fire was SICK.

Definitely one of the better Wheels I've heard this band play.

There was no Dire Wolf. Can't recall what was after Half-Step, but it wasn't that. No William Tell Bridge either. Sick show overall.

Ok I juts got in and it was a Jerry night tonight . The first set was much better than Sunday's. The band just gelled and John was much more on. We sat back in the seats in 107, they had extra stacks in the infield, I will post a pic later of that today.

The stage was backed up into center field. Much further back than in Coney Island. The sound was excellent. They eased into 1/2 Step with slight jam, Bob and John shared vocals, but it was sweet and the set just kept getting better, six Jerry tunes in a row was perfect and it was Jack Kerouac's home town.
FOTD was shared by all, they did not play Dire Wolf. Sweet version.
John jumped right into Tennessee Jed, again he shared vocals with Bobby who blew his first verse but he recovered and it was a great version.
Deal was just amazing easily one of the highlights of the night, Jeff and John just raged on it. The crowd loved it.
Bertha was a perfect choice, but it never quite synced totally. John, who sang it, passed off to Jeff to quickly only after taking one round of his solos. The ending was very well done, with super vocals.

Bobby had to throw one curve ball and Minglewood was it, this version was very disjointed and was not very note worthy...oh well lol

You just had to wait one song and wow was it a dosie. Doin' that Rag, of coarse sung by John, was intense and the band nailed it big time. They really did one of the best jams of the night at the end and you thought they were going to jam into another song and then they brought it down to a hush and then a complete stop and then it was a massive Sugaree, which Bobby sang, and it was a wicked version.
I was so much happier with John performance this set over Sunday's he was taking control and was loud and raged.
I was a happy camper. The scene inside was mellow, although the floor looked wicked packed.
When it got dark, being further away from the stage, the lights were a disappointment tonight. They need to work on that.

Set two started off with arepeat from Saturday, which I was perplexed by, but it was a great version and the crowd loved it. The new tune sounded good, lots of lyrics so I need to listen to it again, the chorus talks about rainbows and rain? The ending of it was quite good so we will see how it develops.
A wonderful surprise going into Slipknot!, although it was played on Sunday. This version was much better than the previous one, again John was right on and it was explored fully more than Sunday's.

Alright this is where things got weird they go into the Other one, which was played Sunday as well, and I know this is a nod to Dean Moriarty aka Neal Cassidy, so I am thinking this is is going to be wild. What actually occurred is that it became maybe the most dissonant Other One I ever have heard. Phil was off it seemed, he did not do the traditional strong introduction and this one wander to the point of bring the energy in the crowd way down, I mean people were just wondering what is going on here.John was doing ok but Phil just seemed not inspired.
It did improve after Bobby sang the second verse.
Out of the two shows I have seen so far,Phil's overall presence has become a growing concern for me.

I would appreciate other opinions on this observation.

Phil made a dramatic effort to get the Eleven off with a bang and it was better than the O1, and was an interesting version but the jam out of it was again not inspired.
I was shocked that another Sunday repeat popped up,FOTM, and it was a decent version, maybe slightly better than Sunday's over all but Phil was way too soft in the mix. Again John too quickly handed it off to Jeff and that I think is not what you want to see happen with Fire.

Ok things in a second just became incredible. As mention before this Wheel was easily the best song so far and it was a joyous, heartfelt version with everyone stepping it up, Phil was intensely inspired and the vocals were excellent. Johns solos smoked and then to drop into So Many Roads was just perfect and again a wonderful tribute to Kerouac, Jerry and everyone else who lives on the road. This rendition was beautiful, powerful and majestic. I loved it and so did everyone else.

Then we got a fully played Playing in the Band with a Reprise ending that was good, although it would have been nice if John had the chance to do a couple more rounds before the end. The jam was good, nothing crazy, and was focused and was up tempo.
Then the powerhouse killer IKYR to bookend the set that just smoked, perfect vocals and the band was on fire.John's final solo was searing lol

Ripple was perfect, Bob nailed it, and all in all this show had lots of heart, Jerry's heart. A shooting star, which the guy behind me and my son saw, occurred at the end. I guess Jerry, Jack and Neal all stopped by.

while I didnt post it here, ill take responsibility on the Dire Wolf and the William Tell bad calls. My texter sent them to me and I put them out on Deadheadland... and imagine they got copied here. I usually double check, but was en route to HSMF (there now!) and couldnt confirm via a second source

is this correct?

Mississippi Halfstep
Friend Of The Devil
Tennessee Jed
Deal
Bertha
New Minglewood
Doin' That Rag
Sugaree

Set II

Chinacat Sunflower>
?New Phil?>
Slipknot>
The Other One>
The Eleven>
Fire On The Mountain>
The Wheel>
So Many Roads>
Playing in the Band
I know you Rider

donor
E: Ripple

and was the new Phil song Mully Gully?
thanks!

Greetings! Just wanted to throw in my two cents, for what it's worth.

My first show was Nov'73 and I’ve been on the bus ever since. Over the years I've observed that Heads are not only the most loyal fans of "their band" but also the most critical of them at the same time. Whether it’s critiquing the new members (Keith, Donna, Brent, Bruce, Vince and now JK.) Whether they’re in the Bobby camp or the Jerry camp (or the Phil camp.) Or whether it’s the new interpretation of the songs each time they go out on tour (this version that year was always better syndrome.) But one thing has always been constant, that the band always constantly evolved, to the fans delight and dislike, keeping things new, fresh and interesting. Do you really want them to be petrified dinosaurs like the Rolling Stone, The Who or Pink Floyd?

Those of us that “lived for the moment” have appreciated every note that they have given us over the years and clung on to them. We can always relive the past, that’s why we have the tapes, and we can enjoy every era that they have lived. Sure, I’ve been to my fair share of shows that were “dogs,” but I’ve also been there when they have been transcendent. Why else to we keep coming back for more?! Over the years the shows have all “rolled into one,” including the shows I’ve only heard on tape, so now it’s all just intertwined with my very existence.

Now I can only catch an infrequent show, but I can download the entire show the day after and listen to it over and over. I’ve been blessed that for almost 40 years the music has been an integral part of my entire adult life, for which I will be eternally grateful. I’ll be more than happy to give my last coin to help bury the soul that has become the traveling companion of my life. (If you’re unaware of the series of folktale cycles from which the term “Grateful Dead” comes from, I suggest you search them out and read them.)

So I’ve always taken the nitpicking with a grain of salt and usually turned it around and made fun of the nitpickers. Now comes JK and the comparisons with “He Who Shall Not Be Named.” My favorite negative comment about him at the beginning was: “What does he have, a different pedal for each era of the band?!” I loved it because they obviously don’t get the beauty of it. What other musician alive is cognizant of evolution of the band’s music? Sure, other musicians can play the music wonderfully as demonstrated in the various post-Jerry incarnations, but who can play all the past permutations as well to be able to take it to the next level? Thank you Phil & Bobby! Why else did they call the band Furthur? It’s the name of the bus; the ultimate road trip. It’s all about the journey not the destination. Are you on bus or off the bus?

I’d kill to be able to follow a tour around again like the olden days, and you (damn) East coasters have always been blessed. I’m from California and seemed to always be driving up and down the entire West coast for shows. But no complaints here for sure! I’m just enjoying listening to the Penn’s Peak show as I write this, reading the bitching about the Lowell show, which I can’t wait to listen to tomorrow. Saint Bobby is singing now to the sirens of those misty swirling seas. Or is it Lost Bobby?! But JK’s guitar sounds so sweet……drifting and dreaming…… All I can think is “What would Jerry say?!” I bet he’s smiling, laughing and crying…I know I am!!! Peace, Love & Dreams!!!

WALSTIB

...There was no Dire Wolf. Can't recall what was after Half-Step, but it wasn't that. No William Tell Bridge either. Sick show overall......

I was just pasting from multiple sites and tweets. Oh well.

To add to my previous post, just saw a pic of the official setlist and the encore was listed as "TBD", so Ripple must've been called on the spot. I guess it was my Pop-pop's way of telling us he is okay - we are going out this weekend to spread his ashes from a plane (he loved flying).

Great show, high energy well played songs. GREAT SOUND on the floor. Some of the jams could have gone longer but the band was on a strict 10 pm curfew (hence the early start and most likely the choice of the encore).
I was 3 or 4 people back from Bobby the whole night and the scene on the floor was awesome! Great crowd up there. Very into the music. Not too much talking or drinking going on but lots of dancing! Saw one guy take a drunk flop on the floor right next to me and security literally picked him up and put him over his shoulder and hiked him out. Totally cool! ON that...

Security was ULTRA COOL!

Whoever the outfit was was GREAT! The line at the rail was of big guys with big tattoos who didn't give a shit whether people smoked or whatever. Saw one of them taking pictures for people. Didn't see one cop inside. One younger showgoer was a little drunk and tipsy and security came over to talk to him. The guy took off running but the guard yelled to him "I'm not kicking you out, come back!" The guy came back and cooled out. Perfectly handled by security.

Got to meet the Pozzys and Bweir. Nice people! Nice to see the Maine contingent represented. Actually lots of Maine people down where I was.
Poz look me up at Nateva. We'll be there all weekend. Love to tip one or two back with you guys!

Great night overall in Lowell. PERFECT WEATHER!

Sorry my wife missed it, but someone has to be the adult!

Ted, I believe they do an occasional
'soft ' OTHER ONE,maybe Bob's doing ?.I can remember back to The Dead a few years back doing this quiet version..Anyone else have thought s on this?

At the Lowell show. Other than horrendous traffic getting to and leaving town, the night was fantastic, starting with the weather. Was on the floor on the rail in front of the board. Sound was perfect, with exception that Phil could have been a touch higher in the mix. This was the only show I'm seeing, so I have no problem at all with repeats. Doin That Rag was first set highlight-the only time when I thought they were really off the hook. Personally, I could live without hearing Tennessee and Minglewood, but all in all a solid set. Thought second set smoked all through. I didn't catch some of the problems that others posted about the set. The full on Playin with the Reprise a highlight, along with Slipknot and Eleven.

thanks for the setlists and updates!!

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Just my 2 cents, but no one mentioned the extended sound check that keep people from entering the ball field until 5:30. Having said that, as soon as the gates opened, access was quick and easy. What looked like a 30-45 minute line got into the show in about 10 minutes.

Speaking of the soundcheck, I and about 100 others ended up on the top deck of the parking garage right next door to the field and had a fine unobstructed view of the whole field and the band. It sounded like they were running thru a couple of new songs and then did a short Slipknot.

I like the slow mellow Other One - it was a cool variation, frankly

I think the idea was to create interesting jams in between the tunes.

I mean, this is one hell of a segue:

Slipknot -> The Other One -> The Eleven


and while the Other One was slow, with a restrained almost bouncy beat, I found the transition from slipknot into TOO very interesting and the transition then into The Eleven fascinating.

I think when you listen to this show again, there will be some real jems inbetween the tunes - that's where the cool stuff was happening.


Slipknot -> The Other One -> The Eleven


Why the fuck didnt the Grateful Dead ever try something that cool?

Could not be more happy with everything about the show last night. Super cool pre-show scene(once you go in throught the traffic). Sweet venue. Amazing perfect weather. Very cool security. Very cool post-show scene.

From the 1/2 Step opener and they were immediately on it! Very upbeat FOTD. Rip-snorting hot Jed! Jon's leads ripped during the Deal. DOING THAT RAG was perfect. Possibly the best I've ever seen. Bertha had the place totally giggin'! Even with Bob singing a vere, the Sugaree was beatiful and JK and Jeff's leads smoked! JK and Jeff were trading longer leads back and forth all night? Anyone else pick up on that? Not a quick, short back and forth but like several measures of leads then over to Jeff for several measures, then back to JK, then they'd both jump on it together. Really HOT!

China Cat opener had the smiling place right back ON IT! I liked the new tune...pretty song. The Slipknot! was full-steam ahead. Yep, the place was begging for the Franklins and the place would have erupted if they played it. Kinda too bad the didn't and it somewhat crashed there. The band had to feel the energy deflation. They struggled in to TOO but got it going after the second verse and JK ripped a strong lead. THEN...... Phil took COMMAND physically stepped toward the front, looked at the band and took them and the crowd right back to the top of the mountain in to The ELEVEN! I thought this was sick! Fire was out of the blue, more than welcome, and was perfect! So many roads sweetness MELTDOWN! What a great place for Playin'. Very well done all the way through. Then a Rider gig-fest!
Sweet sweet Ripple!

This was a SOLID show!
Peace!
CU in Herkimer!

Grubby I agree with the jam out of Slipknot! it was very cool. I was thinking that some of these set combinations may be too forced, it looks great on paper, but to pull off an epic three song sequence is very difficult at the very least.
Maybe they could just go old school and try doing some of the classic song pairings. I mean I would love to hear this band do a Wheel>Watchtower> Stella Blue>GDTRFB or even He's Gone>Truckin'> Other One> Morning Dew.

We'll see if they take a hint from the faithful here

This show smoked...First Set was the bomb of the Tour so far...

My buddy has been to all except Penns and he concurs...

I was at Roch and the 1st Set outplays both...

Just really really happening...the boys were on in every sense of the word...

Second set jammed...throughly enjoyed it, lots of fun spacey trips...the backwards OtherOne was crazy...

Good times pholks...show of the Tour so far for sure...

I have been down on the various formations that have taken place over the years and have found the musc very boring. That has changed. from the Oakdale last year to last night, this band really is good. the tunes have taken a bit slower feel to them, but they continue be sharp and the jams continue to grow. I thought the entire second set last night was great. Yes TOO was different but I thought it held its own. We got to say Hi to John after the show - classy dude

Greetings all. New to the zone but have been lurkin round the site for some time now.

I had a great time in Lowell last night. Got to the lot around 3:00 and hung around the Lowell Beer Works where they were blasting Dead music all afternoon.

Having seen Furthur 7 times now, this was definately a strong performance from the band all around. Personally, I liked the first set more because they had a ton of songs I love to dance to and got me going good. My thoughts on the second set are mixed however. While there were certainly highlights (Wheel, Fire, Playing), the band really seemed indecisive to me. It just seemed like they were having a hard time picking up on each other's cues and going with em. Some of transitions seemed a little sloppy/forced in my opinion. Besides that, I loved the show and we all had a fantastic day. Will be sure to download this later today.

Glad to have finally joined the zone! Anyone goin to Vibes :D

welcome to the zone sio! I know you to be a kind person and can't wait to see you @ philly and vibes...check out the Other Stuff section in the phil zone, that's where everyone congrigates.

Thanks for the reviews folks. It's good to hear from those who were there.

And never apologize for negative opinions, that's what a review is supposed to be, a review of your experience, not just glowing-raves-or-nothing.

Was at the show with my Wolfpack and had a great time. First set was off the charts and more than I could have asked for. Second set had some highlights but did not feel as tight as the first. LOVED the new Phil tune. JK is LEGIT!!! Great venue but access to floor was only from the back and it got crowded and testy at times.

These guys keep getting better and look forward to seeing them again soon!!!!!

I thought a lot about posting this as there appears to be a universal agreement that this show was great. The setlists are fantastic and the historically unusual order of tunes in set two was a nice twist but that's where the good news ends. Please listen to the show again, without the adrenalin rush of being there. The entire show until the Rider was played in slow motion with minimal energy and dynamic changes. It had a "I'm waiting to take off" feel and then only left the ground on the last song of the second set.

That being said, I thought the crowd was awesome, made some new friends, security was mellow and the dancers on the parking garage were definitely in the best seats in the house.

Too bad about Shelburne, VT

Like SioBud, I'm new to posting on the zone but have been following the dialogue for some time. I didn't make the last two shows but was at Coney Island and will be in Philly. I enjoyed listening to Penn on the radio and then again after I downloaded it. I haven't been able to find last night's show though. Any ideas? I'm dying to hear it.

Nevermind. I see that its up now. Guess I've been spoiled. Anyway, hope to meet some of you in Philly. I'm heading down solo.

Good show IMO, not great. First set was better than the second. Sugaree, the highlight. Other One was kinda sleepy and disorganized. Phil tried to save it with his riff, but to no avail. The Eleven just doesn't work for me the way the do it now. Still spoiled from the Q. Ripple was nice.

First set was real good though. It just got better and better as it went along. Sugaree was off the hook as was Deal. Bertha was solid and fun.

Great security. Didn't feel harassed at all. Very nice vibe. Weather was unbelievable.

All in all, a good time.

Waiting for Phil to take P and F out of hiatus.

Peace.

Great show...loved every second of it.

the one thing this band cant seem to do at all is transistions between songs. trainwrecks all over both nights at cony. bobby just getting lost and the whole thing comeing to a stop . this would have been a buzzkill for me priveosly but the band delivered so much both nights i just found myself smileing .after that superb b.t.w. on night one bobby had me sold.

Pretty excited about going into this one...was looking for one of those midweek sleeper shows.

I've seen Further about 12 times so far and it's ranged from being excellent all the way to "I can't believe Phil and Friends isn't touring anymore". This night fell into the latter.

I must say that I hated the set up of the venue. Imagine the stage being WAY OUT in centerfield with a horse corrall in front of it with no space on the wings and giant space blocked off. It basically divided the crowd into two areas and killed any potential energy. Long lines for the bathrooms and beer, mediocre sound. Crustymonster crowd. Ack.

The Rider and So Many Roads were good but the rest of the show was a relative throw away. Personally I couldn't wait to get out of there but may have just had an off-night personally. Perhaps there were some better moments but I couldn't pick them up.

Weir is the deciding factor with this band. When he's on, the band marches forward. When he's not, it quickly disolves into the land of Ratdog.

The good news is that after Penn's Peak and Lowell, I'd imagine the next few shows will be better. Enjoy.

agree if thh band drops its guard amd is not fireing at 110 percent bobby will bring things down

I haven't found the Lowell,MA show anywhere to download. Any ideas?

thanks for the setlists and updates!!

Due to work got into town just in time to park several blocks away (was sitting in traffic not moving for over 10 min's then suddenly a space opened up right there!!!!!) and hoof it into the venue - yes the traffic control and inside setup was horrendous (inside was a large venue but all the access aisles were really narrow with the only ways on/off the field clusterfucked by the beer and porta-potty lines). Spent both sets on the field - there was actually plenty of room and the crowd was fairly mellow.

First set was decent but nothing to write home about - the highlight being Doin' That Rag - ironic that during the best jam Bobby was turned around changing guitars - Sugaree w/Bob vox gave me a chance to re-up on water and take a piss before the setbreak clusterfuck.

2nd set started with a MUCH better China Cat than Coney Is - you could tell the "x-factor" was ON - then the jam meandered and you could tell it wouldn't be Rider - at first I thought the new song was "Why Does Love Got to Be So Bad" by Derek & the Dominoes - it definitely wasn't Mulli Gulli, this was a breakout. Slipknot was unexpected, but unlike Coney Island's weird version this one was straight ahead - then The Other One, I was WAY into the way they did this - they were trying to play it in all these new interesting different jazzy ways, taking it to new and strange places,, and not trying to over-rock it the way it has been the last few years - this was my favorite version since the fall '05/Feb '06 era - very jazzy, spacey, with the Phil Bomb not happening until before the 2nd verse - and even then they still meandered before the verse - I really thought they were going into something else several times. This is the kind of stuff I go to shows for (but obviously not many others, judging by the people around me headed to the beer lines in droves and some other reviewers above). Then the quick transition into The Eleven - right into it, no William Tell or even that Phil & Friends pre-11 jam - this was really fast and energetic, contrasting the Coney Is version which was slower and mellower. They've changed the end of The Eleven, spreading out that moment when they change keys. Fire on the Mountain was good - about the same as Coney Is. I kind of like it when they don't try to strictly rotate songs, ie, so you may get something unexpectedly repeated in 2 or 3 shows, as long as it's something GOOD!!!!!! That keeps you guessing!

After Fire they stopped then started jamming on a very spacey Dark Star/Mtns of the Moon theme -this went into one of the best versions of The Wheel I've seen in a while - lately The Wheel had become often just a throwaway filler, but this was both jammy and played with a lot of conviction, with very smooth vocals. The following So Many Roads was suprisingly great - much better than the Morning Dew @ Coney Is - John really stepped up in both singing and playing.

Then another stop, and like Sun Coney Is I thought the set was over but no - another spacey jam intro and then into Playin' - I really liked this spot in the set for Playin (I had always wanted to see a post-Space Playin' in the GD days - ala 8/19/80) - they jammed for awhile then back to the reprise - someone next to me said "where's the Donna wail?" - just like 1974! The Rider ending was nice, completing the China Cat sandwich similar to Wallingford in Dec - this version was way more on than the "phoned in" album version from Sat Coney Is. Ripple was done nicely, and yes, I also thought that they did a mellow song because they'd run past 10 pm.

Overall, I was very pleased with the 2nd set, from start to end. I'm 3 for 3 so far this tour on that account (2 Coney Is shows), and, really, that's all that really matters to me . . . and the sound was great on the field - wasn't in the stands at all (except during Sugaree), but seems the large distance would have made things muddy way back there. Again, not the greatest venue setup . . . but this was only the 3rd concert ever at that venue . . .

Nice review sideshow.

Were there any uber-cool westie interlopers there talking?

No, but I heard a lot of people ordering a . . .



LAHHHGGE BEYAHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone mentioned that The Eleven was the old style arrangement instead of Bobby's new thing? I was thrilled with that, Phil must have talked him into it. They should really get the backup singers do the high harmonies from 69 again.

"Sink beneath the waters to the coral sand below..."

'69...

"was the new Phil song Mully Gully? "


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No, That new song, which is started off and ended with verses by Phil, also had verses taken in it by Bobby and John too; it was done Saturday in Brooklyn. The actual name is probably "Muli Guli" (look at the spelling on the setlist pic posted to that show thread's review, though the show's disc spells it "Muly" Guly" and it is pronounced like MOOLY JEWLY - listen to the chorus). My understanding is it is Hunter lyrics with music by Phil and the tune reminds me of a cross between Celebration and The Way You Do The Things You Do. I love the sound of it, as it seems like a song from back in the day and I want to know the lyrics.

This night's new song was different one, tentatively tiltled (?) Colors of the Rain". Anyone have the actual setlist off the stage or from the dressing rooms or the CD?

"the most loyal fans of "their band" but also the most critical of them at the same time"

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So, I will stick my neck out and my foot in my mouth here. My opinion is no more valid on the subject than anyone else's in this vast community of opinionated cranks, but I'll offer a perspective, perhaps.

First, I can’t say for sure, not being anywhere near as deeply immersed in any other band's fan community, but I'd have to agree, going back to my first (2/14/70), though I didn't have an awareness or participate in criticisms until a couple years later. In fact, I'd say the criticisms came on full force post the 1974-1975 hiatus, when the chief debate was "had they lost something in taking time off"?

Second, those of us lucky enough to have seen Pig play with the band had an additional angle to argue - that they weren't the same band without him. Unless you had an awareness of the band in the 1968-1971 years you couldn't appreciate just how much a big part of the band Pig was then vs. his last year or so when he was in and out of the line-up and then had a diminished capacity from his hell on wheels approach from before.

By the band's return in June 1976, many of us were uttering the unthinkable - that they had lost their edge and edginess. They were pabulum compared to the stuff they had fed us in the late 60's through the wall of sound era.

By the time Brent joined, we were debating if about every 4-5 years they were losing a part of what made them special and that the reason so many were not feeling that way was the band was adding new fans so fast that the "newbies" representing a larger and larger share of the audience didn't have a reference point to know how less thrilling the band was now to "them" vs. "us". And this paradigm continued, especially with a new burst of fans in the late 80's from the MTV generation of "Touch-heads".

While seeing lots of shows (every one you could get to) was always a part of the scene, when did the folks who saw many hundreds of shows make most of their numbers? Anyone want to argue it was mostly during the 80’s? Someone asked me at Penn’s Peak this week how many shows I had seen. I wasn’t even thinking in terms beyond counting just those of the Grateful Dead (and by now I have seen more of the post-1995 incarnations than the originals). I said, “I fell just shy of 100, only 98, but that over 50 of them happened when it really mattered, before 1975.”

Lastly, believe me when I tell you (and maybe some other old farts will chime in too on this), the older audience members were up and down from the early 80’s onward about how involved or uninvolved Jerry seemed to be. The strength of the band was almost wholly dependent on his energy and focus; that is to say you could never have a really good show if he wasn't on and you couldn't have a bad one if he was on (I recollect my favorite show since the 70’s was 9/18/87 at MSG, probably because it was my ONLY East Coast show in the 80’s while I was living in LA). Now the debates are not as one-sided, because sadly, there is no Jerry (or Pig) to point to as the reason the band sucked or stole your face right off your head.

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Great perspective

still no aud D/L up on archive??

To sum up 2hard2handle's post:

"It took the Grateful Dead longer to 'jump the shark' than anything ever in the entire history of man".

Wow - I'm diggin' this Other One on re-listen. Don't care when it was played/who played on it.

No wonder Scott (I forget your zone name, sorry), who I was supposed to sell a ticket to, backed away from me when he approached me to say "hi" right when the jam was getting really "out" - I was flailing about in dervish ecstacy - probably with a crazed psychotic look in my eye . . . sorry about that man, you shoulda talked to me during "Minglewood".

It's really interesting how different people experience shows. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not at work analyzing an excel spreadsheet; I'm at a Dead show, and I'm enjoying it! I left my analytical hat at home I was at the Lowell show, and I enjoyed every minute of it - perfect weather, perfect music, great company, BERTHA!