A clean start, enjoy peoples, see you Tuesday for the finale.
midnight rider tonight? maybe hard rains gonna fall? What about mean mr mustard? eight miles high? Why not bust out the estimated? my original plans were to be there for the 5 remaining but now I will be lucky to see the last 2 shows of this run. Wish we were there. Didn't phil do an eclipse last year. What is up with the Cardboard Cowboy bust out?
it's a man's, man's world. Blue Sky. Hey little one. Fire wheel burning in the air, you don't have to ask, you already know.
Thought I heard dark star tease last night. Also Chinacat.
I haven't heard dark star yet, missed Sunday, and am very excited about tonight's show. As I am about every night's show. Special thanks to Christian for his Sat night extra!
How was jackie last night? hopefully he was able to keep up with everyone, hope so..i really like the guy..
Looking foward to sat. night.
"How was jackie last night? "
Jackie was good..but I think he's had better nights. The whole guitar thing in the 1st set got him irritated. I thought he really nailed Minglewood. We still haven't gotten an "Uphill Mountain" as the Jackie song this run..I know he used to play it with Phil, really love that song.
sam...i heard that dark star tease as well.
i got in just before the first notes were played and i was standing only 6 ft. from you at first set.
(lost you after that)
there was definitely a dark star tease last night - after masons children and before minglewood
i agree the cold rain and snow was steaming last night.
but is anyone else bothered by the way phil has changed the lyrics and meaning of the song?
i'm glad he finally has a great marriage, but to fundamentally alter such a time-honored song is a bit much to me...
how did he alter it:? must have missed that
"i married me a wife, she's a love to last my life..." and then instead of "ran me out into the cold rain and snow" it's something like "running thru the cold rain and snow..."
basically it sounds to me like he's changed it from a love gone bad song into another love song...
I think he sings "married me a wife and I love her like my life" ...and now were out running in the cold rain and snow.
Phil can do what ever he wants with the lyrics.
of course he can, i was just wondering if such a radical alteraton bugged anyone else besides me...
i mean what's next? broken chain? can of ice?
I will say that I miss how jerry sang it. 'Run me.. OUT in the cold rain and snow. esp at the end of that song when he sang the verse over and over.
phil is not half the tortured soul that jerry was
and that is why he is still with us...
Word is that Bruce Hornsby may be there this evenong
Any word on what's happening at the Nokia right now?!!
Phil's been singing CR&S with those lyrics since the begginning of Phil & Phriends.
no setlists t~nite ????
show has not started yet
hornsby sighting confirmed in chat...
show has not yet started...
While you wait-
Here is the High Time video i shot from the other night with muletapers audio.
lights down now
5:38 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose
Ramble On Rose
5:45 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf
5:53 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf, Jam> Brown-Eyed Women
The only time that I know that Phil sang cold rain and snow the way jerry used to sing it was with "Phil and friends" band summer sessions 1999 when I saw him do it at the Greek. Check it out. 8-20-99. He sings the 'run me out in the cold rain and snow' ending of the song like the way Jerry sang it. Well, obviously not exactly, but true to the way it is traditionally played. I think he changed it up when he started playing with the 'Q' in 2000.
6:02 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf, Jam> Brown-Eyed Women, Operator
6:09 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf, Jam> Brown-Eyed Women, Operator, Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind
taperrob - - THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!
6:14 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf, Jam> Brown-Eyed Women, Operator, Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind, West LA Fadeaway
Nice looking first set so far
wow, wow, wow
6:23 PM [taperrob] Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08 Set 1: Tuning> Ramble On Rose, Direwolf, Jam> Brown-Eyed Women, Operator, Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind, West LA Fadeaway, Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
Rice and beans, n cheddah
here in lower New YAwk
About to ride my bike to the supermarket
for interloper beer
Outdoor speakers are on
I pray the blessed taper Rob will
stream at 2012
Tomorrow is my only NYC show
I will stand in the mist outside
and prepare my strangitude
For the record; Cold Rain is an older-than-hell appalachian blues with dozens of different lyrics, like Minglewood, Dark Hollow, Goin' Down the Road, Stagger Lee etc. There are a bunch of ways of interpreting these things. Besides, changing up lyrics is a time-honored Dead tradition. Bobby changes Dylan lyrics, Jerry switched Jack-a-roe from "hear my guineas clink" to "hear my dollars clink." Like Gregory B said, Phil can do whatever the hell he wants with the lyrics
not jack-a-roe, Peggy-O. i always get those two confused
is the first set over???
Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08
Ramble On Rose
Jam> Brown-Eyed Women
Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind
West LA Fadeaway
Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
Rain & Snow. Traditional tune. Seen many many many a bluegrass bands play it. Lots of lyrics. I totally dig Phil showing glowing love for his wife through the tune!!
First set tonight looks really strong. Kinda short? Woohoo!!!
i know cr&s is an old song and there have been many versions, but i believe it has always been about love gone wrong. i'm not objecting to changing some lyrics, but to change the entire intent?
7:12 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told
if we are going to be strictly deadheashish i would say phil is faithfully adhering to the creed of stumbling along the road less traveled
Doh! Looks like another night of shits and giggles. Can anyone chime in on intensity of the 1st set?
7:21 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World
...this year, Phil always has played seven songs in the first set of each regular two-set show. Numerology? or just an easy way to plan the set lists?
7 has great meaning in Hebrew numerology if I'm not mistaken, anyone?
"stumbling along the road less traveled"!
>>> ...this year, Phil always has played seven songs in the first set of each regular two-set show. Numerology? or just an easy way to plan the set lists?
Every show?? WOW...... crazy
7:35 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel
7:48 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads
7:58 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads, Uncle John's Band
8:12 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads, Uncle John's Band> Jam> Scarlet Begonia
8:23 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads, Uncle John's Band> Jam> Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain
8:33 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads, Uncle John's Band> Jam> Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain> Sugar Magnolia
All Grateful Dead Songs
8:46 PM [taperrob] Set 2: Greatest Story Ever Told, Jam> Eyes Of The World> The Wheel> Jam> So Many Roads, Uncle John's Band> Jam> Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain> Sugar Magnolia, Donor Rap/Intros, enc: Box Of Rain
all grateful Dead songs in set two right Whitman??
damn, good set
Nokia Theatre, NYC 11/14/08
Ramble On Rose
Jam> Brown-Eyed Women
Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind
West LA Fadeaway
Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
Greatest Story Ever Told
Jam> Eyes Of The World>
The Wheel> Jam>
So Many Roads
Uncle John's Band> Jam>
Fire On The Mountain>
Box Of Rain
Yes, pure GD in set II. Sure not the first time...
wow what an incredible setlist!! i can not wait to hear this show!
Uncle John's > Scarlet>Fire>Sugar Mag. - NICE!!!
phil was on fire tonight - it was like he took a few ritalin this afternoon or something....
Just back from the show and I think it was the best of the 5 weekend shows I have seen. The friday shows always seem to smoke!
Tonight they were on fire!
Uncle John's Band---->Sugar Magnolia end of the set was truly incredible. I loved every minute of the show and cant wait for my last show tomorrow.
Looks like the best second set of the run. Eyes into The Wheel..yeah baby!How did Barry sound on the pedal steel? So Many Roads> UJB how was that? I am sure awesome. Some great pairings tonite and Box of Rain too.
go listen> http://www.live365.com/stations/2012_live
sick, sick show...1st set was smokin', barry was great on pedal steel, larry absolutely killed it, jackie, phil, molitz, molo all great...the end of sugar magnolia sounded like the who, real chunky and powerful (in a good way)
"Jerry switched Jack-a-roe from "hear my guineas clink" to "hear my dollars clink.""
I'm pretty sure I've heard him sing both...
I must have been somewhere else tonight.....
because to my ears, this may have been the worst show of the run so far....
What? Are you just joking?
Something else was going on tonight, that's for sure, one of the best Phil shows I've seen since last year for sure. That was really incredible. On my way home a guy was walking a small poodle without a leash and had a guitar under his arm. We said good night and I told him I was coming from a Phil Lesh and Friends show and he told me, "You're lucky." Tonight I really felt that way.
...and one man gathers what another man spills......;...but they kept on dancin'...wiwt
barry takes way too many of the leads, not enough jackie with barry plaing lead after lead all the time, Larry and Jackie gotta kick his ass and tell him to just come in and add a little spice to the stew, not be teh main ingredient. comon now, dont be a chezzer as my mom says.
Jackie Greene is the man!!!!!So many roads blew my socks off and thats weird because I was wearing flip flops
the band played very well 1st & 2nd set...a little slow (but nice) operator. Jackie should've been on the harmonica as the jerry look-a-like mentioned to me, west la was slightly disjointed, but GDTRFB ripped! 2nd set was why I keep going...projectile sweating beginning to end, including draining the ice water during fire, while still dancing (during take a whole "pond of water just to cool him down")...they backed into the scarlett from ending into the beginning..listen closely to the tapes (do they still makes these?)...you'll hear it...this cleansed and rocked my soul like the days of yore (magic in the air)…best phil show since beacon snow storm viola lee 2nd set sandwich, triple encore..strawberry fields, comes a time, golden road..open the doors let the sotrm in show!
I really enjoyed this show. I got to hear alot of songs I didn't hear in the other shows I went to. And the second set was just great...LOVED So Many Roads. A friend saw that out west and told me to brace myself. It was beautiful...I thought of Jerry throughout and almost had a tear in my eye. ;)
interested in hearing why this show stunk from taperrob b/c on paper (which I know is meaningless), it looks great.
Over all, this sounded to my ears to be a solid, but not over the top show. There were few moments where I was really lifted to that higher plane that a great P&F can take me. Conversely, there were no trainwrecks or moments when I felt like the band was just going through the motions. It was a fun show, certainly featuring many well-loved GD classics but it just never took flight for me the way that, say, the 11/8 second set did.
The whole crowd was singing along out of the gate from the first line of a strong Ramble on Rose. A 20-something girl against the rail threw a bunch of roses on stage during the song. They landed pretty much right in front of Phil's monitor set up and stayed there for the whole show, providing nice decoration. I hope they somehow made it into some photos from the show.
It's kinda fun when the crowd sings along in time, but often Jackie will consciously deviate from the classic Jerry or Bobby delivery. The crowd seems to stick with the GD-phrasing also creating a vocal clash that DOES find its way onto the recordings.
The jam into "B.E. Women" was a highlight of the first set for me. It had a funky Feel Like a Stranger kinda vibe and that funkiness carried over into a BE Women that seemed more rhythmic that usual.
Overall, Phil's bass seemed louder in the mix than at some other shows on this run. And the speaker in the raised side area on Jackie's side actually started to distort on Phil's lowest notes during the second set. I wonder if Phil's thunder blew it out!
Operator was good to hear, but as someone commented to me after the set, the whole thing sounded a bit muddy. Unsurprisingly, Phil's vocals weren't very clear and Larry on acoustic steel/slide guitar seemed low in the mix. The whole band just
didn't quite gel on that one.
West LA Fadeaway was good funky blues that got me moving, Molitz pulled out some really cool Stevie Wonder 70s style keyboard sounds.
GDTRFB closed the set with energy and Teresa sang lead on an extra verse that I'm not familiar with that's probably in the original Woody Gutherie version.
My friend turned to me after the song and said, "that's it?" At only 50 minutes the set seemed a little short, but we had hopes that Phil was keeping it short for long, epic 2nd set.
Greatest Story was a tight opener. I enjoy this line-up's slower take on the song.
The jam into Eyes started to make temperatures rise and feet move, but Eyes itself seemed a bit short and never achieved lift-off. Though Larry and Barry both took good solos.
Throughout the evening, pretty much every pedal steel solo Barry took was really enjoyable. He's so much louder and clearer in the mix than when he toured with P&F in 05-06. And that's a good thing.
Jackie didn't seem to take many solos at all during the show, but then again I could see what he and his fingers were doing from my stage left perspective. But most of the guitar solos sounded like Larry.
The Wheel that followed Eyes was a lot of fun and my first Jackie So Many Roads was enjoyable though there seemed a few rough moments in it instrumentally (though I guess you could say that gave it an authentic 93-95 GD flavor)
There was a long pause before UJB. I think there was a problem with Larry's mandolin. The song eventually started without Larry. After a short while, he was handed his mandolin, but he only played it for a few seconds and switched to guitar for the rest of the show. I'm guessing it was out of tune. Too bad. Good things seem to happen when Larry's on the mando.
After UJB, there was an angular almost-space-like moment. Then I realized they were building into Scarlet. It was the most enjoyable transition of the evening for me.
Scarlet>Fire was good fun. Some good Larry and Barry leads. There was one really intense climactic Larry solo, maybe on this pair (or maybe during another song in the second set) that really got the whole crowd cheering. It was only time I really noticed a huge full-crowd response for a solo.
Sugar Mag closed out the set. It's always a great party song and it had me singing along.
The second set ended around 11:40. With 15+ minutes for the encore slot, I figured we'd get a H>S>F since it seemed like statistically we were do for that trio.
Instead we got Box of Rain for the encore. It's always a treat to hear, but Phil seemed to blow a few lines. It wasn't the strongest version I've heard P&F do.
The show was over a bit earlier than expected at 11:50. Every other show on this run that I've seen went right up to midnight (curfew time?)
It was good to see dancing-fool RowJimmy again and it was fun dancing around with Jill from Cleveland (owner of the best dayglo dresses?)
I'll be back tonight.
Larry did have a problem with the mandolin on UJB. Sless was on guitar but when Larry switched to guitar, Sless went back on pedal steel. I would have loved to hear it the way it was originally planned.
Whoever said Barry takes too many solos is nuts. He is my obvious pick to play the important leads...although I like the way Jackie solos during the cream puff war; ala 66-67 jerry. But all in all you can't diss barry. He is very good on pedal steel but if you ask me, leave the pedal to Larry and keep Sless rippin guitar leads. It is obvious that he knows the music very well and I also like the effects he plays while soloing. I know he has played a 'flute' sound out of his guitar and to my knowledge he is the only guitarist since Jerry to do those effects. I don't even think Kimock played flute sounds from his axe whil he played with Phil. So if you have a problem with Barry Sless, stop the chit chat during the quiet solo spaces and pay attention. What you will hear is the kindest sounding lead guitarist since Kimock and we should all feel very lucky Sless was invited on board this bus with NOT only the pedal steel but a ripping lead guitar that clearly channels Jerry's sound. In fact Barry Sless on lead guitar is my number one hope for any '09 spring Dead tour. (Phil, Bill, Mick, Bob, Warren and Barry with Chimenti..or Molitz for that matter.)
Definitely a fun show on a Friday night in Times Square. Strong readings of Dire Wolf (including a very faithful pedal steel solo from Barry), BEW (very funky) and a rockin' GDTRFB to close the 1st set. The entire show felt like a "classic '70's hits" set to appease the weekend crowd... not spacey/weird enough for me personally, but the crowd seemed to really dig it. I thought "Eyes" and "Wheel" were a bit on the slow side... One guy was screaming in the bathroom during "Sugar Magnolia"- "THIS IS THE WORST SHOW EVER!!!! WHAT IS THIS SHIT? AARRRGH!!!". I smiled and thought of Bucky. Still, I had fun, I takes 'em where I can gets 'em these days.
Barry is THE man so Jackie certainly should be taking a major back seat to him....the more Barry solos the better.
i've been to 9 and rank this as 7 or 8 so i'm closer to taperrob than others but halloween was weakest for me....
Personally I thought this show was great!! This is the second one of the run I have been on, my first being Halloween which I thought was a good show but this was just way better. Halloween seemed like they were still working out the kinks and this show just seem like they turned it out!!!
I am still singing BEW as I stroll around today, what an awesome night and what a truly great place to see Phil!! I look forward to going again next year!
It was in the moment:
After a 58 minute 1st set, I was hoping for something better. There were glimpses of a good show brewing. The BEW was the highlight for me.
The 2nd set had a good start, but they lost me when the Greatest Story stopped then they jammed into the Eyes. No flow there where there were a lot of possibilities. Then there was the tempo change in Eyes I didn't care for which led into a slower Wheel than I am acustomed to hearing from Phil (felt Ratdog ish).
So Many Roads sucked the air out of me. There was no emotion in Jackie's reading of the words; nothing from the heart; from the soul. I didn't hear it or feel it.
And then another stop.
Thought there will be possiblities with the UJB, which was telegraphed in the noodling before the jam started. Although the mid-verse jams were OK, the out jam before the reprise was too short and the jam after that seemed forced. Then an almost stop before the stacato(sp?) playing to start the Scarlet. That was a note of interest and thought they will recover here. They did somewhat although it was short lived. Another what felt like a forced jam into Fire sunk it for me.
Can't comment on the Fire because I was not paying much attention at this point. Shows that there really wasn't much of anything inspiring here that would have grabbed my attention. Then to top it off, a Sugar Mags that, again, didn't inspire much.
The Box was the best choice here to end it, but too little too late for my ears.
Again this was in the moment for me.
Wow, so how do you really feel about this show there taperrob? I am a long time head that just turned 40 and I have been to plenty of shows so at this point I am just happy to see Phil with a great band cranking out some great dead tunes.
SHHH, no bad reviews, remember this is a positively-biased message board, no frowns, no yawns, all the tie died philzoner trolls are going to tie you up and make you listen to sugarmag on repeat till your ears explode if you don't give a good review. Then they will make you one of them (resistance is futile). Jackie will come out of nowhere and initiate you into trolldom, then he'll sew one of those new hats he keeps wearing to your head for good. You will never be able to speak your mind again. Not after you have been trolled up.
"The workers they come back from their day in the field, Jennifer dances and she cooks me a meal"
I had the best possible night at this show.
Granted, things got so personal, and internal. It was totally about the L-O-V-E for me, and I managed to conjure all the feeling that I have wrapped up around Jerry & the song So Many Roads, that moment was just gorgeous for me.
Now full psychedelic blowout was a major factor, but for me it couldn't have happened on a better night. Totally found "the spot" both inside & outside of myself.
Insanelly gorgeous experience, I'm relistening for the first time right now & I think this show had something right from the get-go. 1st set didn't drag for me (Sat did a bit), and I just feel so connected to all the choices they made in second set. Such a celebration of what it was that brings us all there.
Funny though, when I walked out into Time Sq after, I couldn't tell you one song they had played except Box, and I wasn't even totally sure of that one. It "all rolled into one" in the best way possible. I barely even ran into any Zoners the whole night, which was odd, I was a bit distracted though.
In a strange way, I'm glad I only saw these two shows. I'll bet it's way easier to get jaded after 10 nights or whatever...
This show was as lame and "phoned in" as the show in Boston in June.
I liked Boston too Bob
Nice to see ya at the subway platform after Sat show...
Every show I've seen in Boston has been worth it. In fact I think Phil really likes Boston as well. In 1993 Fall tour, the city blocked off a couple of streets surrounding the Garden to let the grateful circus take place. They flew a steal your face flag above the Boston Garden all week.
this was a wonderful show, a real party atmosphere and an unusual set list with UJB, Scarlet and Sugar in the same night (or month for that matter).
any So Many Roads was well done by jackie; i have the link to the last one performed by the Dead on 7-9-1995, check it out.
decent show, 1st set was good, second was ok, well except for so many roads, as stated before, jackie did a terrible job reading the lyrics, no emotion...
i have to admit it sounds better to me on the soundboard, then it did to me at the show. and it is possible that jackie does not grasp the significance????
I thought So Many Roads was quite well done, with enough combination of emotion and restraint by JG given the significance of the song.