7-11-01 Sandstone, KS

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Airey (Garcia) on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 08:05 am: Edit Post

Only One set for Phil in Kansas Oh toto I hope this doesn't happen in Camden or the land of chocolate...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David C. (Houndbrokedown) on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 02:53 pm: Edit Post

Trust Me It's worth it! Phil played a Wooly Mammoth of a show. Why get caught up in the numbers?

Is it better to have a 6 song (55-min.) 1st set and an 8 song (1hr: 20 min). 2nd set or a one set show consisting of 13 songs (2hr: 30 min.)?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By johnPa (Jinpa) on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 08:11 pm: Edit Post

i'll take 2 sets anyday (first set 90 min--2nd set 2 hrs,,sunrise, beacon etc....). gotta have 2, 2, 2 sets in 1.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Carleton (Gr8fulted) on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 09:14 pm: Edit Post

Sandstone was set-up as a 1 set gig: Loved the long set and the grate dual encore. Willie's best effort was the Poncho and Lefty: kinda wished Emmy Lou was there singin along too....have a fun tour yall>>>>>


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Airey (Garcia) on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 08:27 am: Edit Post

No question of worth just wish they would play all night....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By johnPa (Jinpa) on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 10:12 am: Edit Post

bottom line, that was false advertising. it was listed as two sets. if it was set up as 1 they should have said so. i'd be bummed if i went expecting 2 and got 1. refunds anyone?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JD (Drunkeneagle) on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 11:45 pm: Edit Post

"Poncho and Lefty!" Wish I was f-in' there! Can't believe fools are asking for refunds. Jinpa, I'm sorry I defended your bad humor during your "redneck bashing" phase, you must really be all that and more.

Bottom line: if you got to see Phil Lesh rock after Willie Nelson played nuggets like you'll never ever smoke, consider yourself lucky. My girlfriend would have traded all three of her Greeks to see Phil and Willie in one night. When she saw that Willie played Poncho, and later on Phil played Dark Star>11 and more, she teared up. And you wanna refund...go figure...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David C. (Houndbrokedown) on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 01:43 am: Edit Post

Garcia, I don't thing any of us are in good enough shape to take an all night set (band included). The Dark Star>11>DarkStar>Eleven, catcher your breath Scarlet>Fire sent us on our way in pools of sweat and look for jugs of Flex All 454, as far as that goes I hear there are Phish phans still in physical therapy after Big Cypress NYE 2000

Yes it would be nice to plan your head accordingly for one set instead of two. But at the same time it felt that something special was happening during this show as the clock spun out of control as DS continued with reckless abandon. It would not have been the same if I read the show was going to be one set. Especially with the opening Jam>Friend>Jam into Cosmic Charlie. I felt the show was a bit hollow until mid way into Charlie. But what a fantastic reformation!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Airey (Garcia) on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 12:54 pm: Edit Post

Not in shape but at 27 willin to give it a try.. The one set show was no doubt a thriller but I simply would have been a little disappointed if I was there and expecting two...I hope when I finally make it to Camden that I would be lucky to see one set as fine as that Sandstone list displays...Reckless abandon sounds nice Peace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By zozo labrique (Zozo) on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 02:43 pm: Edit Post

First of all, you should never really go to a show expecting anything!! Shit, this music is about spontaneity, so anything should go. I would be soooooo psyched to see something i haven't seen like a huge 1 set show instead of 2!!
The Dead was originally about the fact that anything can happen. Cheers to Phil for keeping that alive. And Willie opening up...you really can't ask for much more than that in my eyes! I just wish i had been there!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David C. (Houndbrokedown) on Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 05:53 pm: Edit Post

Correction. Dark Star/11/Dark Star>Wheel catch your breath Scarlet>Fire. Ooops


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Airey (Garcia) on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 09:17 am: Edit Post

Agreed one set of that magnitude would be fantastic!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jason b harmon (Jasonharmon) on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 07:52 pm: Edit Post

I've been away from home and computers,
and could barely wait to talk about the
Sandstone shows.
Saw Oklahoma City, and loved the scene and
shows, but Bonner Springs, KS was the shit,
for sure.

Several important things to consider for us
and the scene's future.

First, the heart of the scene beats strongly and
loudly. We are still everywhere, as evidenced
by the numbers of peaceful, descent folks who
turned out to welcome Phil and his fellow
bandmates. Also, like the song says, "new
ones coming as the old ones go." Lots of
wonderful kids who can carry the vibe forward
and furthur.

For example, classic Dead Show stories still
abound. Met two girls, about 19, from Omaha,
NE who'd hitched to the show after their car's
engine locked up on the highway. They said it
might've had something to do with the fact that
they drove the car at 80 in second gear, but go
figure... Anyway, before Phil took the stage,
one girl turned to me and said innocently,
"Now how long was Phil the bass player for
Phish?" I just grinned, and politely corrected
the oversight. However, after she heard that
Dark Star and the Scarlet Fire, she and her pal
were as moved as if they'ld toured with the
scene for years. It just felt right.

Another story: At OKC I met a woman from
Japan named Miwa who'd traveled alone with
broken English and no vehicle or friends
except who she met at the shows. Even
though she barely spoke the language, she
knew every song and danced to the universal
language of music . I saw her again at
Sandstone after the show, wandering the lot,
spun out and happy. She recognized me from
the previous show, hugged me and, in her
broken English, repeatedly said, "Best show!
Best show!" That, my friends, is the heart of
the matter. The music never stops, it just
changes faces.

Secondly, the scene was great overall. Few
scuffles in the large crowd, and a great feel
throughout. Full scale Shakedown St. in the lot
was permitted by the venue operators, and
best of all, they let folks sober up for a few
hours on the grassy lawn before ASKING
everybody to kindly split, which we did. Haven't
seen that sort of permissive attitude since
1989 or so, and we should both savor the
freedom and do whatever we can to avoid
fucking it up for the future, like before.
We can make the choice to have a great
scene or to go back to the pissing in the
bathroom sinks days, which I don't think most
of us want to see again.
Also, no cops in the lot after a while, and no
troubles seen.

Thirdly, Phil and Friends name has to go.
I suggest "The Phil Lesh Orchestra," or "The
Phil Lesh Experience." Keep the notion that
Phil is the lead cat, but that it's far more than
him alone that makes the music happen.

Fourthly, the music lives.
I'm still a Friend of the Devil, and loved hearing
songs that unite us and remind us of what
attracted us to begin with. Whether it's Jerry or
Warren, or Jimmy, it doesn't matter. The
Sounds come from the Gestalt, not the
individual. The whole is greater than the sum
of it's parts. Dark Star, The Eleven. Nuff said.

Great to have a three show midwest run from
OKC to St. Louis and Kansas, too.
Peace
jason
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gerry Maggio (Thtellablue) on Friday, July 20, 2001 - 08:40 am: Edit Post

Jason- great observations of the scene. I totally agree about the carrying on of the dead vibe, post Garcia, and with different players carrying on the same grate ritual, it's like an eternal fire that can be passed on and on.

Our souls have sprung up on this planet and others probably, for eons, theres always a line cutting through the population that wants community, visions, sensual sounds, humour,evocative darkness, phat phun ! The dead didnt start the tradition, read about waldens pond, and Shelly's crowd. Socrates. All free thinkers are dead heads, going back through the ages. How glorious it is to be here now, in this age, and to have Phil lead THIS band on another incredible journey for us to bask in the sunshine and moonglow of thier incredible sounds. Warren has totally stepped up, Herring never ceases to amaze, Rob is evolving, Molo's mojo is magic, and thank the gods, we still have Phil & Hunter !! And lets give kudo's to Robert, whose mind and pen gave us the gems that make up the 120 or so brightest planets in our song solar system !! love you Robert!!!!!

I'll look for all my freinds at Jones Beach and Camden. Camden will be a monster, always is, great scene at the edge of the lawn, looking down on the busy port of Philadelphia, while the stage and band undulates, like a sheet on a clothesline, beyond the dancers,brightly colored schools of tie died fish twisting on the trippy tide.

WILLY:two words, STELLA BLUU-UUU-UUU

love to all on the boards, and positivity to the scene !!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Patterson (Wharfrat) on Friday, July 20, 2001 - 04:01 pm: Edit Post

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jinpa you are a jackass and need to get a life...and i dont get angry easy, but you are UNkind and need to be adjusted!

easy answers, brobill (wharfrat)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By johnPa (Jinpa) on Friday, July 20, 2001 - 04:48 pm: Edit Post

whadisay?, that if it was advertized as 2 sets and i went expecting 2 that i'd be disappointed with 1. that's crazy?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Patterson (Wharfrat) on Friday, July 20, 2001 - 07:05 pm: Edit Post

yes, that is crazy, you pretend to be about peace and love but really you are all about negativity!

if you were there...(and you were not, and maybe you should stop talking about things that you were not a part of) you would not have been disappointed...or maybe you could have managed to be disappointed...By the by i read your initial reactions to the kc show, that is your reaction to those who came here to talk about it and share their wholehearted (but perhaps not OFFICIAL enough for you) view of the experience, and it was bullshit! Perhaps that why i belive that you need to be sent back for re-conditioning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By H.R.Thompson (Herethereguy) on Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 11:11 am: Edit Post

Perhaps reconditioning in another country. Glean a different perspective of people & breakout of his cognitive-Siberia.