Psyched for the only show I'm catching this tour. (No FLA shows, might as well come back to NY for a show with my homeboys!)
Huge Galactic Fan and gotta love that Acoustic Warren opener! (Just downloaded the show on NYC Heads, the Come-and-Go Blues is eery & awesome!)
Anyone have 2 Orchestras they want to sell? Tix still avail but in the back. Let me know.
Anyway, I'm sure it's going to rock, these guys seem to never tire and still pull it off every night!!
Here's hoping Phil saves the next Marbles/Dirt/Turkey for Jones Beach. My only show of the tour (sadly). If not, I'd settle for one of those tasty Viola Lee Blues sandwiches. Or one of those groovy Alligators.
Phil by da beach!!!!!!
Phil in my backyard, i look foward to reviewing this one for ya!
the venue sits on the water, so maybe.....
1st - scarlet,little light,built to last....?
2nd - wharf rat,blues for allah, st step., 11...?
whatever he plays.....is golden
peace till then.
what is the security/cop scene at jones beach ? fill me in if u can thanx!
ok I remember last year it was raining Phil did "Terrapin" PHAT!!!!! I got a ticket for walking 2 pit bulls WHY? i dont know but the lot scene was non existant!!!! small venue but nice!!!! :) :) :)
STAY AWAY FROM DA BEACH, both beaches that is, jones beach is an absolute nazi state, you cant even open a beer without gettin hasseled, and then they search your car, and then most nights are ruined before they start, from personal experince i know, although jones beach is probably the nicest place i've ever seen a show at, its not worth, betwwen the traffic,which is almost unbeareable, and the cops out there its just not worth it, if u do decide to go, make sure you bring cups for your beers(hide your emptys), and just bring a nug or two for the night, otherwise you'll end up very unhappy, also virginia beach, is pretty close to way things are in wrong island
Spacegirl420...with all due respect, why the heck are you bringing 2 pitbulls to a show?? yes, i'm sure they are absolute sweethearts but did you consider the affect they might have on others (with kids) who would like to relax and enjoy a peaceful day?
in alpine valley, i saw a family, who looked like hardworking hippie types just there for one show have their day ruined by having a huge pitbull at the car right across from them..they had their 3 beautiful very young children playing on a blanket about 10 feet from the pitbull and the parents looked very nervous the whole time..they had nowhere else to set up, they had tons of stuff for the kids to play with and had to stay near the car..the owners of the pitbull didn't seem to care about how their actions or prescense affected othere, which was pretty sad to witness...
i'm not understanding this pitbull-on-tour fad, seems to be growing..where the hell did that come from? this is cool? can we go with black labs instead? or maybe leave them at home under a shady tree with a big bowl of water and a bone? sorry to sound so parental, i like to see others enjoy shows peacefully, especially families.
Hey Spacegirl and Irisguy, I agree that dogs are becoming more of the "thing." THis is in part because we love our pets and (hopefully) society is changing a bit about having dogs here and there (however, in the right places with owners who KNOW how to have a pet.)I think it's great when there is an outdoor patio where one can have their pet. WIth that said, I'll say through my experiences working with the local humane society: here in Boulder and Denver, and also doing animal assisted therapy, it's opened my eyes up to how many folks don't pay enough attention, or TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY for their pet let alone walk around with certain breeds that do pose great threats to other humans and animals. Some "think" they are responsible, but simply aren't. Too many times I've seen human psychology projected onto the pet and situtations involving pets including one fellow who swore he had the best dog in the world only to see it get run over after exiting a house where the dog simply didn't wish to be. Another example: at the last Red Rocks P&F show I attended, I noticed a border collie locked up in a Suburu with the windows UP. and there was still 2-3 hours of sunlight left. I also saw people indiscriminately walking towards other dogs with their dogs, showing no caution, like something magical was supposed to happen and the dogs and they SHOULD get along. Perhaps they believe that it is a P&F show and everything SHOULD be cool. WRONG. Many of us, including myself are still learning about dog (pet) behavior, let alone our own pets. Perhaps we can all begin to be a bit educated about our pets and use more discrimination in what we do with them so as to alleviate problems like the above forementioned. I'm sorry to come off sounding like I'm preaching, but I see this stuff happen all over the community, not just at P&F shows. While I think it is great to have a pet along for trips, sometimes maybe one needs to really ask: Does my pet want to come? Or is it just me projecting? Take care.
Now for my pre-show comments aside my soapbox. May we all have a great time at the Beach! How about a Help>Dark Star>Eleven>St.Stephen>Slipknot>Franklins. Food for thought! May everyone have a splendid time!
Another interesting aspect of falling prey to the vagaries of law enforcement at Jones Beach is that the drug laws are more stringent if your crime occurs in a State Park, and a small time summons for a joint or two becomes a much bigger, and more costly problem.
The Jones Beach Theatre is an awesome venue, looking out on the band,the water, the salty air, sunshine,(sometimes) and a fun lot for careful, and wary partying.
The cups are a must, descretion is key. Have funnn !!
PS I think if any of us lived on the planet when and where the Nazi's were happening we wouldn't be so flippant as to compare over zealous squirrel chasers (park police)to the Nazi's. I know it was just a casual jibe at law enforcement, but c'mon, that's insulting to the memory of all the people that endured REAL nazi's, and the families who carry thier memories.
pps- appropriate songs to break out for Jones beach 1st set - Missisippi Halfstep- Tales of the Great rum runners-fenario-rosalee mcfall.
meet: 6: 15 at the shower on the beach ( near the bathroom building )
I'll have a green Belmont Park hat on
be there or be square
P & F tapes to the first 10 to intro themselves
security is agressive in and out, be smart
for a more detailed analysis of Jones, go to the " OTHER" board and look under " Jones Beach or Holmdel"
HR Thompson-irisguy_I had to babysit those pitbulls for friends of mine that got arrested at Scranton last year!!! Believe me I'm not one for bringing dogs to shows much less pitbulls!!!! But it was either give them to the humane society or take them with me til my friends got back on tour! I was glad when I gave them back to their owners at Camden!!!! Have fun at this show and leave your pitbulls at home!!!!!
Brick, At the showers??? By the bathroom??? Didnt i see that Lifetime special??? Sounds shady to me. First 10 does that include me??? Soo looking forward to this show. Where are we meeting???
Long time, no read. Good to see you back.
HR, right on for your comments, very true..
Spacegirl, glad to see you took my words in the spirit they were intended, have a safe bus ride and a ton o fun this tour..
(in my best Richard Simmons) i'll bring the soap, boys...lol
no tape for you, truant!!!
your Cafe is chock full of Brick's Picks, let some other folks get a taste!!!
6 o clock show, I'll meet you at the beach...
by the showers/bathroom
I'll be the guy in the overcoat trying to ply young folks with candy...
becareful here. plenty of 'steroid jock strong island I-roc driving police wanna be' security guards running aroung. saw Aerosmith there recently (which blew) you practically get the full cavity search on the way in. during the show, i smelled some hemp burning, and with 2 minutes there was 4-5 guards searching my section.
BTW- 2nd set in Hartford was UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! I can't even imagine how Phil got so good. I've never seen anyone who can even come close to doing what he does. And I'm speaking as someone who has studied jazz bass for 3 years. The man is a genius.
BTW2- leave the kids and pets home. THEY DON'T BELONG AT ROCK CONCERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I'll be the guy in the overcoat trying to ply young folks with candy...
what are you going to ply the older folks with?
theother1 SPEAKS THE TRUTH - HARTFORD ROCKED
AND PHIL AND FRIENDS ARE TIGHTER THAN A LITTLE NECK CLAM! PHIL AND WARREN PHOREVER!!!!!!
Anyway, the venue is a state park, that is true.
no open containers, bring cups, it is a must, avoid drinking if ya can, they want to nail you, they hate hippies.
But, you can smoke in the show, just keep it down low, keep an eye out for yellow shirts,
YOU WILL GET A PAT DOWN ON THE WAY IN
-and an aside, the prices for food and drink inside are extremely expensive (even for today's standards)
hartford and spac were mind-blowing
can't wait for solo warren at da beach
everyone be safe and have a good show....i'll be there....the one dancin!
What's this Long gi land crap. Born and raised and couldn't be cooler. Turn your love my way...
So psyched for Jones Beach...rendered speechless!
A quick analysis of past lists leads me to believe these are some likely candidates for Phil to play:
Dark Star (15 days since last)
Just A Little Light
Blues For Allah
I'm sure I missed a bunch of others too.....
I have 4 tickets that I can't use for the Jones Beach show. I got them from ticketmaster so I'll sell them for $40. They are section 7L row H. Pretty good seats.
Please email me at email@example.com if you are interested with a phone number where you can be reached. I work between Time Square and Grand Central so that should make it easy to arrange.
....Terrapin, Days Between....
Blues for Allah=YES!
did you guys check out the weather change occurring right before or during this show? its gonna drop about 10 degrees, much cooler, relief from some very hot+humid conditions the past coupla daze..we might get rained on again, like last year but i'll take it over suffering in wicked heat in a parking lot with no shade...
how bout crazy fingers????
Crypt, the old folks get the Percodan
knocks em right the f8ck out
Buck, what are you handicapping for the opener contest? already cast my Soulshine vote
Anyone know if i can bring a bag in with me to the show? Does jones beach allow that?
Mrs B sent me this. VERY interesting....
>>> firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>Phil Lesh & Friends /RatDog, Thursday, July 26
> On sale now!
>at 6:30PM at Jones Beach Amphitheatre
Anyone know what's up?
Brick, I'm kinda waffling between Scarlet & Dancin'.
I do predict Dark Star > Blues for Allah tho.....
I got confirmation that Galactic will open the show, followed by Warren acoustic from GDTSTOO forwarded on to me from a friend. Thought you all would like to know.
"Galactic is up first from 6 to 7 PM
Warren acoustic 7:30 to 8 PM
Phil + 8:15 midnight.
Have a blast.."
brick will commence hoisting and other concert preparations roughly around 2:00 pm
parking lot 5:45 till 7:30-ish
9th row center ( thanks Ruby et al! ) 8:15 till midnight
have a blast
You can't hear what I can hear, here, hare.
MD doin' it to you between the ears!
no joke, warren island, south oyster bay
(marshes), near county line, between townsend isle
and gilgo isle
argh! PLQ has given me rabbit fever?!?!!
How reliable is this info. In Deer Creek Warren acoustic opened, then String Cheese and then Phil. I'd love to see Warren, but I know I can't make 6:00. I might be able to make 7:30 if I push it.
Does anybody know if there is a curfew at Jones Beach?
If you want to question Grateful Dead tickets feel free, that is why I copied her note, with her name on it. The info came from Ruby direct. We asked her, because so many are coming from work and would like to hear Warren. It makes sense to do it that way, since Warren's stuff would be set up for the P&F portion of the show.
Sorry, dont mean to be obtuse, but didn't I publish the schedule-show should end about 12.
No need to get "obtuse". I just asked a simple question.
kids - derek trucks is playing in the City tonite (wednesday) at the village underground. there might be some special guests.....don't worry... cause cousin DAT will be there if you miss it
>>>No need to get "obtuse".
What is this? The Shawshank Redemption?
Where is jinpa? Where is my LITTLE eastcoast BITCH?Any other eastcoast assholes want to argue?Phil is only there to make money.The real scene is in the west,and in the midwest!
My prediction: Patchwork Quilt. Mentions Jones Beach in lyrics. China Cat, 'Rider, Dancin, Midnight Train, Goin Down Road, Bertha, Lil Lite, all due. Not to mention New Potatoe and Tomorrow Never Knows, that were teased heavily at SPAC before Lucy in the Sky. Of course theres always the Dark Star - Allah - Dark Star -'Rider ending.
DJ- get a life!!! or move East, you need more shows!!!
I'll argue with you DJ.
You're obviously a stupid tofu. Everyone knows the best Dead shows were on the East Coast. Any band wants to play in front of an energetic crowd- not a bunch of stoned out mellow smelly hippies. Yeah- Phil deserves to be paid for what he does. At least on the East Coast we have jobs, and can afford tickets.
Oh- the midwest. thats a real Mecca of culture.
DJ- your Mom's a slut.
Hey Now DJ. I am always up for a good debate. First I would just like to say..you are way "UNKIND." You are pretty much, well you are saying that all East Coast heads are assholes. Man are you casting some stones. Everybody is entitled to they're own opinion, but yours sucks. I'm not sure how you got into the deadscene, but there is no bashing east cost or west coast. We are all family. And have you caught any east coast shows. I guess not. The real scene is in the west. You are son funny, you sound stupid. But like any culture..you always have the dickheads who think they know everything. And you my friend are one of those. I suggest you think about what it is you are saying. So I suggest, "You get back home where you belong, and don't you come back no more." Feel free to make any other ridiculous comments. "For now and Until Later."
got some real bastions of higher education out there....
You people would get swallowed up in a matter of minutes on the streets of Philly, DC, NY or Boston
sideshow bob...glad someone else heard the Potatoe tease in SPAC before LSD...bring it on! TNK, too!
idea: if someone comes on here crying for attention, ignore them, it just wastes space and energy and then maybe we can talk about music a little...peace
Hey, no need to get nasty on the guy. That too is very unkind. DJ, your problem is that you have overlooked the fact that most of the East Coast is made up of people who needed culture, inspiration, and a broader sense of community, so they moved here, or stayed here. There are obviously a ton of east coasters in the Philzone, (more than you really know), and whether they still live here, or have moved out to the west, they are still loyal...
By the time this show is over tonight, there won't be any room left to post reviews. Let's stop this garbage, and concentrate on the Sun Dance. The temperature has dropped, but we need some clear skies. Peace everyone, "The Boys Are Back In Town".
People, let's not take DJ's or anyone else's bait and bash other people, regions...etc, if not simply for the sake that all of us don't have to scroll through the B.S. to get to "real" reviews and comments. At least, make a topic in the non-show reviews area. When we engage in throwing stones we simply are doing the same as DJ. As someone said, we are one family, obviously with many differences, but one major thing in common. Take care, from H.R. in the Rocky Mountains.
its like the East Coast vs West cap rap war all over again.
Yo yo DJ- i'll be putting a cap in yo head if me -n- my peeps see yo later. Word
DJ is Tupac to JinPA's Biggy Smalls
I just can't wait till AUGUST 2...YEEPEEEEEEEEEE
Looks like the rain has stopped upstate, and hopefully has also stopped on the Island. Last year we got soaked at the show, but the music was certainly worth it. I'll be wearing my black Blues for Allah shirt, providing it's not covered by a poncho. Time to head out for show 3 of 4 on this run.
>I just can't wait till AUGUST 2...YEEPEEEEEEEEEE
I want to break bread and clink glasses with you Confederates.
I grew up in California, live in the Midwest & went thru the East Coast once... and none of that matters when you are dancing to PLQ! These boys have no boundaries! Phil is from outer space anyways! The culture is in your head, when the music is in your bones, all that'll matter is where you are & what you're being treated to! I wish I could see more P+F! I wanted to see a Dark Star on my run, but I was instead treated to a strange Blues for Allah! This one rivaled most Dark Star's I've ever heard on GD cd-r's. You people are in for a treat! Safe tour to everybody...
Well, East coast 'heads are hip,
I really dig their frizzy hair,
And the Southern 'heads with their homegrown hemp,
They knock me out when I'm down there,
The Midwest farmer 'heads
Are the last ones on the bus,
And the Northern 'heads with the way they drink,
They really know how to stomp and cuss,
I wish they all could be California 'heads
(And their hair is perfect)
I wish they all could be California 'heads
(May your children never hear surf music again)
This message is for cryptical, basher of the midwest..Well my friend, you think us midwesterners would get swallowed up in a matter of minutes out in your town???Why don't you come pay a visit to chi-town. We love cocky little bitches like you. And for the record, west coast shows ARE better than east coast shows. The music is the same on both coasts but the folks out west know whats up. We go to shows out west (dead and Phil) and the fans are knowledgeable, kind, and can appreciate whats goin on.Even the kids out west like the music. Out east, its a bunch of Phish ghetto kids gettin as drunk as possible,blaring rap on their boom boxes, and starting trouble(Have personally never seen a fight at a show out west, but have seen quite a few out east)The worst part of it is that these kids would rather see Trey than Phil, but still come on our scene and act like it is Phish..(by this I mean extreme unkindness)There are cool heads out east,you just have to look real hard to find them.Sorry to come across as harsh, but the truth is the truth. The west is the best.........
Yeah all those East Coast shows sucked...Cornell, Syracuse War Memorial, Watkins Glen, 6 nights of MSG at a time, Roseland Ballroom, The Palladium, SUNY, the Fillmore East, Harpur College, The Ark, etc...etc...
Truth is what you make of it...
>We love cocky little bitches like you.
I'll be there in October when the Sox are playing the Cubs.
Bring it on!
>to jinpa's biggy smalls<
now that was uncalled for.
hey bucky, tell me some more war stories from burgettstown.
>sox playing the cubs<
i hear jimi will be playing the national anthem.
man it's hard to keep up.
you are doing a fine job Jinpa
I love controlling this scene from so far away.
Tapecat just called...
He's waving that flag, waving it wide and high...
You know all of you just make me laugh when I read, "Yeah West Coast shows are better than East Coasts Shows." So funny. Just enjoy the music. Have great shows everyone. "Can't we all just get along." For Now and Until Later..peace
Burgettstown it's freezing and it was the middle of June, T's shirt vendors whishing they were selling sweaters, and paved lot. I had to listen to a half Star and a pretty cilli Spanish Jam. What a great scene in Foothills of Washington KOA, it was all worthit and made the warm weather in chiTown that much better...
Oops. Thought I was on the 92 dead.net thread...
hounddown, you're right. it was so cold i wandered into a gap and bought a sweatshirt. agree again on first night,,,,ah but the 2nd night was stellar and made it all worthwhile.....
Hello? Long Island? Are You There?
where is the list? im dying to know.
is there anybody out there?
why is there so much negativity in such a wonderful room? a show is a show no matter where you see it. can't we stop having this east coast west coast debate already? can't wait for the setlist!love you all
Hey --any word on tonight's show? I'm going to Jersey tonight and want to ponder what may be! After Hartford, I don't want to be greedy!
hi laura. any word on the show?
yo - jones beach must of rocked so hard everybody forgot to post setlists.. is there anybody out of the spell that can help us piece together a list of sorts????
Utterly speechless, and this list does not accurately describe tonights rollercoaster.
Just A Little Light
I Know You Rider>
thanks so much for the prompt setlists- must say it looks like the setlist possibilities are endless with phil's band- as they continue to dust off the best songs never played they've yet to even come close to repeating shows, etc.. and the level of world-class playing we are seeing at this moment in time is as good as it gets!!
maybe bobby should just join phil's band for a tour and get on with it.
In a nutshell, a good first set, highlighted by Scarlet>Fire, followed by a beast that was simply unleashed. The opening jam just sort of flowed and built into a monster St. Stephen that totallty delivered into the full blown GDBT that had been played with and aborted at Roseland. GDBT segued back into Stephen which then went into a jammed out China (which i think quoted Ornette's Dancing in Your Head)and ultimately into a rippin' rider. For me, Stella was kind of a buzzkill, but that's my problem. Not Fade was a nice close, and with a 12:00 curfew, you knew what the encore was gonna be. This Midnite Hour ripped a nd snorted and concluded with three of the HUGEST bombs I've ever heard Phil drop. Watch your woofers with this one, boys and girls.
I was at Jones Beach tonight and I've got a quick few comments. Thought first set was solid-nothing too out of control (except the Scarlet->Fire and the jam before Scarlet were sick!), but overall good.
2nd set was smokin!! After seeing Hartford last weekend, and being blown away, as soon as they started the Stephen I was curious to see if Phil could push it further than with the Eyes. This was more rockin and the Good Times Bad Times was an appropriate choice because of the tease at Roseland (which I also saw and loved). The china was excellent with a very beautiful jam (best desciption possible) that followed it before they busted into rider. The Stella showcased Warren's truly soulful voice and the NFA got the crowd going...
Midnight Hour topped off a great show (although Hartford gets the nod) with a dueling jam between Jimmy and Warren that must be heard to be believed! Warren's slide work at the end was mind blowing...
And last but not least, Phil in typical form, dropped continuous bombs all night, but the last note of the night shook my whole body :)
Enjoy tour-wish I was catching more.
You mean Good Times, Bad Times?!? GTBT?
"I know what it means to be alone!!"
GTBT - Good Times Bad Times - Although GD Bad Times ain't far from the truth.
Good morning chickies, I know writing this that alot of folks won't think what I thought, and does it really matter in the long run? Straight into Celebration, which is aging nicely. There was then this jam (one of the planets, sorta) that wound into a twisted journey of every tease they could come up with (Blue Sky, Blues for Allah....)and dumped you into Scarlet, which was pretty damn hot, and then another 20 minutes of about 6-8 different jams that would escalate, then come down again, then a very spicy Fire. There were alot of us that spoke of Phil wanting to break the ghost of 10.14.94,and he did. I think this may have been over 40 minutes of rollercoaster. They stopped for a full 5 minutes and sort a walked around the stage in circles...Patchwork Quilt...most people were looking for this, and obviously playing it Jones Beach, alot of spirits lurking out there...Jerry, Allen Woody, etc..nice version with a kick ass "banjo" ending. Just A Little Light in memory of Brent. That too, as usual, very hot.
Second set, St. Stephen-GTBT-St. Stephen-THANK YOU BRIAN FARMER!!!!! YOU ROCK!!! Inside joke...The China/Rider was as good as it gets, again, sick twisted jams that took you up and down the rollercoaster into a very sweet Stella. As much as I loved that song with Jerry, I see it in a different light now. Where once you sought to hear the sweet Garcia solo, now, in way I seek to hear the lyrics sung. A very nice NFA, NOT followed by the crowd doing the clap-no offense, I found this all too refreshing. And a Midnight Hour, that who ever made the comment about the Woofers wasn't kidding. I had moved to the gate for my usual swift exit, and had to protect the drums.
Welcome back to New York. There really is no reason to expect that tonight, Camden and Hershey will be that different. The energy is different here, just ask Phil. What did he call it Magic? Did he suggest they move here, or we move out west? I cannot remember, but I think whatever he said puts an end to the east/west debate. You all no longer have to listen to us. Phil has spoken. And if you didn't get off on tonights show, there are still more to choose from. Nice summer I am having, RR,Hartford,Jones.....!!!
TC, I looked,and I didn't find you. I will find you tonight, or BG has my phone number, so we can meet before the show. Duppree, and others, sorry, couldn't get signals off the cellphones. Lastly, my brain is mush....and I am incoherent, all without the aid of anything....just music.
"St. Stephen">"Good Times, Bad Times">"St. Stephen"
You lucky...LUCKY people!!!!!
Once again, I am one happy patron of the finest of
a...n....d..... Warren's solo set!
"To Lay Me Down" duet w/Rob Barraco.
did they sing good times?
Yes, PL&F sang two stanzas, at least, from GdTmsBdTms.
Somebody, please, "close my synaptic gap!",
Queenie & I wish to share Warren's solo opener,
was it a Hank Williams tune? Q: starts w/an H? Was
it soulshine?, no that wasn't his opener, maybe. Was
all ears - silly rabbit
they sang, i think, the first verse of GTBT, very hot!!! thanks to Gerry for the tape & beer, he is a man of his word... nice to meet Bucky & Mrs. Bucky... The highlight for me was the Warren acoustic set, i came in half way thru if anyone can post warrens set i'd appreciate it. Warren w/Barraco doing To Lay Me Down was stellar and they topped it off w/a smoking Soul Shine, this was killer...
To Lay Me Down ...Acoustic...man that sounds
Does anybody know where we can find the Warren solo setlists posted? The Warrenbase setlist archive on the Govt. Mule homepage hasn't been updated since Feb. 2001...
Great reviews...keep 'em coming!
They did indeed sing a verse or so of Good Times. Phil's bass was turned up so loud people were checking their hips thinking their cell phones were vibrating. During Fire the jam started to scatter a bit and Phil starting nailing the familiar bass line so powerfully that the entire stadium was moving, my chest was tingling, and the hairs on the back on my neck were standing up. The moon peeping through the clouda during Just a Little Light was a very nice moment. Many many teases and twists in all the extented jams. I heard The Eleven come riding through the stadium about five different times only to vanish over and over again. Rob Barraco put in a stellar performance for his home town pals. He was hammering the keyboard all night pulling stuff out of no where, at one point both guitar players just gave him the stage and he tore the place wide open. He also through some Unbroken hints around early in the first set. The vocal relay between him and Warren and sometimes Phil at the end of NFA was a welcomed change from the crowd clapping and sing at the end. A much appreciated effort put on last night, thanks Phil, Rob, Jimmy, John, and Warren. Besides the obvious Stephen->GTBT-Stephen, Just a Little Light, Rider, and NFA were highlights. A note about the other acts: Galactic was enjoyable. Real funky. My first time hearing them. Warrens acoustic set was so so. Soulshine at the end, with the sun set washing over the water behind the stage had everyone (about 1/3 full crowd) standing up, swaying and rocking back and forth. His versions of Hurts me Too and To Lay me Down were less than memorable.
warrens set (from what i remember)...hurts me too, one,?, the real thing (not sure of this title), to lay me down*, soulshine*...*w/ rob barraco
regarding phils comments at the end...he said that NYC has some sort of magic and that we wanted to bring it back home and hang out with it!
also, i don't recall them playing blue train last night, although its listed on the setlist...
warrens set (from what i remember)...hurts me too, one,?, the real thing (not sure of this title), to lay me down*, soulshine*...*w/ rob barraco
regarding phils comments at the end...he said that NYC has some sort of magic and that he wanted to bring it back home and hang out with it!
also, i don't recall them playing blue train last night, although its listed on the setlist...
There was no Blue Train last night. It was a scarlet/gdtrfb flavored jam session before Rider. The PhilBoners strike again. I saw there little gathering by the flag and recognized them from the Spring Tour. These are the rude needle D's who spent the entire Asbury show talking about the setlist rather than listening to the show. Plus they constantly come and go passing through the space of the people around them. You know who you are... 20 something newbbies. Elvis has left the building!!!
What setlist did you get that from? Not mine, or any other I could find. There was definetely a Blue Train jam in there, but you couldn't call it Blue Train, same goes for Jessica, Blue Sky, Blues for Allah, GDTRFB, Wheel, Cumberland, Wharf Rat, the Elusive Eleanor Rigby,....anybody wish to add to this monster list, I must have missed at least 10 others; if you have two lead guitar players and they are both playing killer leads simultaneously, with a keyboardist doing the same thing, and the bass player and the drummer are driving the thing, you are bound to hear just about anything. Just got off the phone with my sister, she too, feels like she got dosed last night....what painful ecstasy.
did anybody hear a "Norwegian Wood" sometime after gtbt? I could have sworn more than one of the guys were trying to bring that out... or maybe I was just imagining things.
WOW. I had an amazing time last night! pure joy. personally, i liked it even better than SPAC. the way the heat wave broke ealier in the day, the wind died down, and the clouds were swept away to reveal the night sky during Phil playing, all these added all the more to the magic.
i was even kind of hoping to hear a st. stephen and scarlet fire. WOW !
I didn't see last night's show but a friend who did emailed me this, which I thought was worth posting here:
OK, so I was "shaking the rust off" so to speak at the show last nite. musically there is not much more to say except those guys are monsters,
absolute monsters. i mean, the music was being received by me on two different planes. there was the one that knew that this was raging dance music. the only problem as that you couldn't get much movement in the aisles cause they were being swept pretty frequently. the other plane was the one that just was awestruck by the absolute power of that 5 piece. the RIDER and STELLA were completely electric. i felt out of body. (can you tell i had a good time?). I mean, I didn't feel that way the entirety of the 2 sets. but
i did feel that the band has their act together. there were nice jams and meandering jams. i was amazed at the subtleties of herring and haynes. and i was very intrigued with watching each member have the authority to "steer" jams. sometimes it would be molo, sometimes herring, etc etc and the rest of the band would follow. very nice. so by the middle of the 2nd set i had no idea what was played in the 1st. it was that kind of show for me. a very live in the now type of audience participation by me.
i also cannot stress how CRUNCHY the mix was. that, coupled with our fine seating arrangement, lent to sheer bliss. i'm telling you, they are on even when they are trying to find a road to go down on a jam. they are LARGE. but you knew this ;)
also, i just think that patchwork quilt, sung by warren is beautiful. on one hand, i would dismiss it as a sappy, kinda poppy tune. but i can't help to see the utter sincerity in which warren delivered the tune. i mean, those southern guys are such puzzles. on one hand they are black wearing, whiskey drinking bad boys. on the other hand they are capable of such fragility.
it's amazing to see warren go to those different places.
Wow - how about those Phil bombs at Jones? Those are the special kind, the ones you only hear in the finest versions of Rider, Other One, Midnight Hour or the Dew...exhilarating, the kind you feel up and down your spine...I was waiting since Roseland for them to do at least the whole verse of GTBT, how fitting that it happened here again...loved the Scarlet as always, thought the first set was a bit jammy but ended strongly with a very hot Just a Little Light...Warren sounds much like Brent, eh? Saint was incredible, as was the China>Rider...Not Fade was as good as Ive seen it, its nice to see a really rocking version without the Bobby histrionics and howling at the end...also a pleasure without that inane audience clapalong at the end, a nice clean break is much better for me...Midnight Hour ROCKED!!! Missed my Golden Road and Unbroken, wish I was going to Jersey tonight but too much traffic and a kid to take care of...till the next time then, the memory of Phil's bombs will have to carry me through until I can back on the bus!
Ok, Bret posted it as Blue Train, although it was more like a runaway train...
Ok, so Blue Train is on the setlist...more like a runaway train, I heard it and passed it up as just another nugget jam...BRIAN FARMER, BRIAN FARMER, FARMER!!!!!!!!!! Caroline and I love you for carrying the message. THANK YOU a hundred times. YOUR wishlist should be complete by the time you head south.
They did it again. I saw them in Hartford and couldn't believe how much better and freer the band has gotten, and yesterday at Jones Beach was stupefying. I was able to find a sound pocket (the Phil Zone) and finally heard what this band is clearly up to. Phil was playing like he used to; awesome interdependant lines, bombs and all. This was the most psychedelic jamming I've heard in six years! The Fire on the Mountain being played in a 7/4 time signature, what a groove. Phil's bombs in Rider...like the good ole' days. I still don't know why they all have to look at the lyric/music charts after all this time, especially for a tune like Fire..."To the thin line beyond which you really can't fake".
Re: teases, Warren definitely did his now-standard Norwegian Wood thing. As mentioned before, they teased Dancing in Your Head during the China jam and also fiddled with Birdland (Weather Report) during Midnite Hour. I also think I heard a Low Sparks tease before they dropped into Scarlet in the first set. Can't wait for tonite.
...there was a very brief Blue Train snippet if someone missed it they were probably too busy talking or sumpthin'...speaking of yappers i wish people would keep it brief with the cellphones at shows..this selfish guy behind us went on and on loudly during Patchwork Quilt, the most delicate portion of the show. why do these people go to shows?
also heard: Dark Star, Unbroken Chain, Here Comes Sundhine, He's Gone and probably a few others i missed or need more caffine to recollect..
i've never heard a Scarlet jam like last nights, nor a jam after China Cat so OUT THERE..so out there i really didn't make the connection that Rider or Fire might be coming next..as mentioned, numerous slow downs and build ups, lots of fresh ideas explored...
Scarlet Begonias: its a great example of this bands versatility..Warren and Jimmy trading solos in the middle jam is priceless. the vocal chores being passed around gives it a groupmind feel and the jam at the end is going places you'd never expect..this night was a perfect Example A of the X factor kicking in and taking over to the point where the band just rides a big ole wave..
i definitely heard that Blues for Allah somewhere in this time, it was right there in the air..
During the Scarlet jam i started to notice that Venus was visible on the skyline on this most perfect summer night and it shone brighter and brighter throughout the set until the very end when it was lost behing some drifting stray clouds..
tonites Screen artwork was a tough one to describe, full of symbols surely taken form some mystical source, one being a strecthed out 4 and another a wheel with elaborately decorated spokes...
2nd set: the beginning jam was one of those single theme song structures they've been doing this tour, all slow, sweet, and mellow..then, some really nice jamming, moving in and out of some themes and then the Stephen riff, a complete surprise, noone called that one and this one had the intensity and at the same time more space and grace than the Hartford version, eventually building pace then comes the Good Times riff again but this time Warren sang it a bit and even played a power rock solo at the end....the jam afterward was colossal, moving through many peaks and valleys some delicate, some rocking, some funky....
China Cat was a full on carousel of psychedelia, snakey, Phil moving the center around masterfully so the groove had a huge, huge body to it..the jams afterward moved on seamlessly, you could just feel that tour momentum was taking the music to some special places..the Rider was on a whole other level than i've heard from this band, it was unbelieveable, just firing on every possible cylinder and rebuidling the engine to include more cylinders to fire on as they went along. Phil loves to bomb NY..
Rob Barracos keyboard work on Stella Blue was standout, just the most tasty fills you could hope for, Warren sang it beautifully and his slide solo at the end was stunning..
NFA was as big as it gets, feel da power..
Same with Midnight Hour, just big beyond description, massive walls being built, torn down and downright dizzying intensity..
Michael was right, thats exactly what he said, wanting to take the NY energy home and hang out with it awhile (San Anselmo, watch out)...
When Warren was sliding out at the end of Stella
it was very much like David Lindley on Jackson
Browne's "These Days." It prompted me to reach in
my bag for pen and paper. I scribbled blind and
wondered if what I wrote would come out. I wrote
"Jessica," "The Wheel," and, of all things, "Deja
Vu" Were those last noodlings somewhere in the
pre-Fire jam as well?
It's really been a treat reading how others have
described things in ways I have (and haven't) in
emails elsewhere. I'd been told I "must" go to
Hartford after a friend was in Mansfield, and I
didn't go. Very grateful that I got a call
yesterday morning offering Jones Beach seats, left
of center roughly equal to the mixing board. If
you're wondering whether to attend or not,GO
Good to know they played "GTBT" last night and got out of the way. Definitely would have killed MY buzz.
What a treat! These guys just keep hittin ya with music.
I didn't think Warren could get any better than he was when he was jammin with Dickey years ago....but he has. And Jimmy Herring is right on his heels...and sometimes in his shoes!!
Thanks to the guys who sold me a 5th Row ticket 30 mins. before showtime. It was greatly appreciated. Enjoy the rest of the way!
Just curious, Good Times, Bad Times as in Led Zeppelin?!? Thanks in advance.
Yep. Believe it or not. Sadly it is true.
nothin sad at this performance, 'cept ballads.
We second that "hurts me too" opener, thanks
that nyc magic is from the area being inundated
w/talented presentations, hence (everyone's a
critic) when an extraordinary ensemble sounds off,
ny is very appreciative.
Again, thank you gentle minstrels,
there has not been such a good stomp there
"since" gc and the p-funk all stars left a big
puddle of P on that stage
hop hop lagomorphs to the next P
don't forget sandy hook nj
gatewy natl rec area
beaut'l beach w/distant ny skyline
north of highlands nj
'drop me in the water'
What are the rules to cover songs? Please explain Mike(skip)
well what a show. i feel like i was there. thankyou so much everyone,especially dewitt, for that wonderful description of last nite. you have put a smile on my face where there was none. i love you guys. hope to see you all in n.o. for bobby.
Before I start, I'm usually listening very closely & I didn't hear 3 quaters of these teases people are talking about. Blue Train was most definitely NOT played....
The sound was very loud, we could plainly hear Galatic outside, Warren too. I got in to hear To Lay Me Down & Soulshine, not bad, not great either. Warren played no leads, just rythym. The guy in front of me cracked me up playing 'air drums' during Soulshine, considering there was no drums.....
P&F (NOT PLQ!) started with Celebration, no jam & took a while to get it going. It just wasn't hitting on all cylinders. This song just goes on & on with too many lyrics (check the lyrics if they still have them posted on Phil's official site, it's like reading War & Peace...). Towards the end, they picked it up with a nice, mellow jam. They finished the song & came out of it into a spacey interlude, some people thought they heard Dark Star, but I don't think there was much if any. They then picked it up into a '72-'74 type of upbeat jam before finding their way into Scarlet. This version was a bit tighter & more rocking than others I've seen & heard. They did the usual jam out for about 5 minutes, then took a sharp turn into a weird space which sounded to me like the beginning of Blues For Allah. Somebody else called it 'The EEP Hour' off of the Garcia record with The Wheel. Anyhow, they picked it up & headed into Fire. The first instrumental was a big, intense jam, the 2nd was more jazzy & laid back, then an extended jam for a few minutes before they went back into the Scarlet 'coda' & came to a stop.
Next up was the obvious choice of Patchwork Quilt with the 'Jones Beach' line. I know nobody seems to get too excited about this tune, but it was good. They went right into Just A Little Light, a somewhat mellower version than most I've heard, but still very good. Certainly no match for 10-16 for example, though.
This ended a very good & thoroughly enjoyable, but not great 1st set. Total time was about 1 hour & 15 minutes.
mike i bet you wouldv'e shit your pants when you heard to GTBT because it fuckin rocked my cock off.
They started out with an upbeat jam that sounded to me like the opening bars to Unbroken Chain played at a faster pace. My wife & SJF thought there was alot of Wheel there. There was a couple of definite Here Comes Sunshine quotes near the end. They slid downward to that nothingness that leads into St Stephen. From the start, I thought they were putting a little extra into it. Each verse, the instrumental went a little further than normal. At the end, where the closing jam begins, they went clearly into Good Times Bad Times. I must admit, Key, they fooled me again. Duh! I knew they were singing a Led Zeppelin tune, but didn't know it until they sang "Good Times...". They jammed on this for several minutes & found their way back to St Stephen & started building up to the final climax. It just kept going & going. Just when I thought they'd go back into the final verse, they brought it back down and moved into another upbeat jam reminiscent of '72-'74. I figured they'd do another song, but went back into the final build-up to the end of St Stephen & brought it to a peak that topped the first climax. Intense. Best version of the 6 St Stephens I've seen & the countless others I've heard on tape. It must have been at least 15 minutes & probably more like 20...
Right into China Cat, great, they were really rolling now. I was totally lost in the music, so I may have missed some of the teases here, but they most certainly didn't play Blue Train. They jammed around for what seemed like 15 more minutes before starting a totally rocking version of I Know You Rider. I asked my wife what time it was when they stopped & this segment to open the set was between 50 & 55 minutes. It was as good as anything I've heard P&F do.
Next, I was hoping for the LONG overdue Dark Star. Instead I got Stella Blue. Why not just stick a dagger in my heart? By now I think most of you know that I'm not a big fan of Stella. Nice vocals & slide by Warren, but not my cup of tea. I guess they''re entitled to one slow & mellow song in the midst of a raging sea of jamming.
A short jam went clearly straight to NFA, an over the top rocker that was absolutely by far the best one I've ever seen live. Some great 'Who Do You Love' quotes in there from Warren. The crowd tried to do the clapping bit like the Dead's ending, but P&F would have none of that, as they drove the jam to a height that stopped all the clappers in mid clap. Another short but very intense instrumental after the final verse & they ended it in a powerful way. Much more preferable to the crowd chanting & clapping ending.
The encore was Midnight hour & featured some of the most intense jamming I've ever seen. 3 instrumentals, lots of double time (like the Dead ending Morning Dew), just fabulous. Every time you thought that they couldn't go any further, they did. Warren was playing so hard he apparently broke a string & had to switch guitars in mind verse while singing. This song alone lasted 15 minutes & ende just about the stroke of midnight.
All in all, it was a great show. No match for Hartford tough, but it didn't have to be.
The sour taste Stella left in my mouth (sorry folks, it's my review & I know most of you love Stella) was washed away by the greatness of the final 2 songs.
One other point: I know some people have been saying that Warren seems to dominate & sometimes step on Jimmy's leads, but in this show I noticed much more balance between the 2, without Warren dominating as much.
Wow! Now I'm really sorry I missed this one!
gaynus wins for most cuss words in a one-sentence review.
hey b: now were you there or did you just eat at the restaurant.
Hey Bucky, i thought i heard a touch of 'Blue Train' either during or after 'Rider'... i'll have to wait for the disc...
Damn, Bucky, if that Stephen topped Hartford, you are a lucky man! I know you said Hartford was better, but still, that Stephen was sick! To hear that topped you must've been LOSING it!
THIS SHOW WAS THE BEST PHIL SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN (OUT OF ABOUT 30)
Was looking for the scarlet>fire and the little light, and they didnt disappoint. that SCARLET was AMAZING!!!!!!!! jimmy and warren were made to play together, these 5 guys are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tight!!!!!
the st steph was so rocking and the good times, bad times kicked it even higher in gear................oh my lord, i couldnt dance fast enough............holy shit was all we could say
thank you thank you thank you......phil and friends
Mike Vanderzanden, why would GT, BT being covered be sadly true? My hunch, confirmed by two reviews on this thread, is that P&F (current configuration) would absolutely smoke this song. Sad I missed it.
Andy Watkins, because I NEVER have been able to "get" Zepelin. Sorry. I dig alot of the other folks who rip off the real blues masters, and my buddies enjoyed 'em back in the day but, like I say,I never could catch onto their appeal. Rather, they offend my ear drums and tend to upset my stomach. So, having one of their "signature" songs thrust in the middle of a peak and precious experience like a P&F show would almost definitely be a bitter pill for this guy. Flame on dudes.
Warren must be a pretty cool dude for Jimmy and Phil et alia to put up with him going supersonic all the time. (Last song Jones Beach he even broke the high string.) It's good that he can make the flow go, but he should also listen to where it wants to go. Shifting gears for greater intensity doesn't always mean revving higher and higher. In fact, in a car when you shift gears higher, the rpm's drop and the sound the car makes gets lower. I like a little descant now and then. But even Duane and Jerry could both could drop a register or two now and then without loosing intensity. Besides, my ears would appreciate it.
I liked they dropped a little Zep in. I could have used two verses.
But don't get me wrong. I liked the show. The band is sounding better and better. Rob and John were excellent. I'd go again if they were playing multiple nights same location. Jones Beach is beautiful.
Reggie - interesting your perception of Warren not listening. The show out here in Washington it sounded like Jimmy kept walking all over Warren's solos. Felt like he wasn't paying attention to where they were going, and whenever Warren would start to take off he'd step up and cover over him, at which point Warren would back off and let Jimmy take control.
That's a little overstated - it was a good show, withs some sick jams where everyone intentionally was stepping on everyone else's lines, interspersed with some points where Jimmy just wasn't listening to where they wanted to go. Or so it seemed.
i'm really sorry i missed this show. just another one of the sucky things aboutliving in louisiana when i grew up in ny.i love st.stephen and if anyone has a tape please let me know. eric fuller do i know you?
Zeah, Zeppelin took, or "ripped off" as you say from the old blues guys. But so did the old blues guys. One example is Howlin' Wolf taking credit for "Spoonful", when actually it was a Charlie Patton song. Muddy Waters ripped off Bo Diddeley and Robert Johnson, and Elmore James ripped off Johnson, too. Sure, Zeppelin took ideas from the blues standards, but they added to it as well. You can't tell me "Whole Lotta Love" is not 180 degrees from Muddy's "You Need Love". Zeppelin wasn't all blues turned to 10 on the Marshalls. Have you ever listened to any acoustic Zep? Have you heard the British folk influence? Probably not. The bottom line is, Zeppelin is one of the greatest bands ever, period. That's why they've sold over 100 million records. That's why every band since Zeppelin, has some Zeppelin influence. They have a unique sound, as do other classic bands, that put them in their own category. I have heard live Zep that would smoke the best of the best Dead shows. Jamming isn't the be all and end all of music. I love the Grateful Dead more than any band ever. Their music is and will always be, one of the great loves of my life. But, they are only one teeny, tiny piece of the great, big musical pie. The Dead could do many things that no one else could do. But so could Zeppelin, or the Ramones, or Coltrane, or Neil Diamond for that matter. So, go back, listen to Zeppelin with an open ear and give credit where credit is due to some of the greatest music ever made, period.
Hell, flame ya there, Skip?
I'd burn ya to a crisp!
I prefer to look at it as the band honoring one of the other GREATS, by doing precisely what the did.
"Good Times, Bad Times" fits poifectly in that instrumental!
And...that song last night was born out of a TOTALLY improved moment from 4/30 at Roseland.
Anybody who was at Jones Beach should be HONORED that they were there when that PRICELESS piece of music was played!!!
"St. Stephen">"Good Times, Bad Times">"St. Stephen"...INDEED!!!!
>>>Hey Bucky, i thought i heard a touch of 'Blue Train' either during or after 'Rider'... i'll have to
wait for the disc...
SJF said the same thing here. My point wasn't that they didn't hit on it for a bit, but that they didn't play the song.
As I said, I was so totally caught up in the music, I was almost dancing.... I was so lost in it, the very moment, I probably didn't have my usual level of discernment & easily could have missed it. A few notes that is, not the whole song.
BTW, I'm not a big Zep fan, but respect their level of musicianship. Funny though, Good Times, Bad Times from last night has been playing in my head all day......
HEY KEYSHAWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF SKIPPY DOESN'T LIKE LED ZEP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BURN HIM!
HEY HE JUST DON'T LIKE THEM THAT'S ALL.
JUST LIKE YOU PROBABLY DON'T CARE FOR .............
SO DON'T GO JUMPIN' ON A GUY 'CAUSE HE DON'T LIKE THE BAND YOU LOVE!!!!!!!!
....BESIDES I WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR..FOR EXAMPLE ..FATMAN IN A BATHTUB IN THE MIDDLE OF STEVEN,DARKSTAR,OR ANY OTHER DEAD SONG FOR THAT MATTER...
ZEPPELIN SCHMEPPELIN...I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bucky, you were so lost in the music you don't know this: you WERE dancing!
Zepplin has been tagged by radio play of one song only that we are all so burned out on. i don't even have to mention the title...they tempt you to judge them as a metal band with their hard rocking songs but are so much more than that..i was lucky enough to see them live and its still one of the greatest shows i've seen..i would LOVE to hear PLQ pull out Ten Years Gone, for instance, a sweet, sweet tune with dual guitar leads that intertwine with equisite grace and beauty...or The Lemon Song, that would be a blast..
I can envision a dynamic that these two very talented leads are trying to vibe out an equilibrium for doing the tell (as Anna Goanna put it in her voice over in the final minutes of Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome), and as they figure it out, sometimes it's a little too much on one side or the other.
For example, I saw Jimmy play with Butch Trucks last summer when the Allman Bros. played Jones Beach. Butch (also very talented) did Duane's original parts, but left little room for Jimmy to swap in. I was sitting very close and I thought I could see frustration on Jimmy's face as if he was thinking, "What's left to do?". It's understandable that a very young man, brought up in that tribe and suffused with one of its founders, would get caught up in hearing Duane's part only. I thought it was very gracious of Jimmy that he didn't try to fight Butch over the lines, but let the kid deliver them and just filled in where there was space. But it was a bit of a waste of a talented musician. While Butch did a faithful replication of Duane's part, Jimmy could have also added to it if only Butch had left some room. But I guess Jimmy decided he had the experience and flexibility to go with the flow, whereas Butch might have been thrown off if he had to digress, so he laid back.
I also wish Jimmy would sing some. Maybe he doesn't like his voice. Jimi Hendrix felt that way and wouldn't sing at first, but finally his friends convinced him that he was so musical that he could work with his vocal limitations and still sound good (which I think everyone would agree was the result). Maybe if Jimmy sang too, it would level the dynamic between him and Warren, making it easier to find that level playing field I'm hoping for. After all, Phil got back into singing.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see and hope they can develop this understanding. But maybe I'm being impatient. After all, how many years did it take the warlocks to develop into the dead - 4, 5? It's the not the standard approach to playing in the band, so I guess some reconditioning at the deepest levels might be involved. Like Ringo says, "Whatcha gonna do when you wanna sing the blues and you know it don't come easy?" I guess you just keep going with good intentions.
w/fading banjo, mandolin and guitarss, "...left
her where the guitars play"???! line from "(hey,
hey) What Can I Do",
LdZppln was alright, for a bunch of (fact:) rude
boy hooligans. though, gotta admire their success.
Now, back to our program: WHaynes soloed "Only To
Be With You", a u2 tune. I got the acoustic set as
an ode to the late Mr Allen Woody, performed
nearest where he'd last been.
Hurts Me Too, Only To Be With, To Lay Me Down....
Rest on, in peace, dear bro.
I was at the show at Jones Beach and I was great. Really cool!
Now...hold on there a moment geewiz.
This has NOTHING to do with an INDIVIDUAL'S likes and/or dislikes.
The only reason for ANY band to play or "cover" another band's song is because they themselves admire the piece and would like to show their appreciation for a given song by giving it their OWN interpretation.
In this particular case...apparently Warren (as HE'S the one who srarted this in the first place with "Good Times, Bad Times", back on 4/30) has a nice appreciation for what is COMMONLY and GLOBALLY acknowledged to be THE GREATEST ROCK & ROLL BAND EVER!!!!
You can't honestly believe if they played "Fat Man In The Bathtub", or some high pitched WHINING BLAST from a harmonica, ala Blues Traveler, that the EXTRAORDINARY crowd reaction both at the Roseland and, I'm sure, at Jones Beach, would be the same for THOSE limp d**k tunes placed in the middle of such a MASTERPIECE as "St. Stephen", do ya??????
The VERY reason that "Good Times, Bad Times" IS so special is a) This came out of NOWHERE...when did the Grateful Dead EVER hint at ANYTHING even Zeppelinesque? b) The VERY place they chose TO incorporate a piece of music from the GREATEST of the GREAT...was smack dab in the middle of one of what is ACKNOWLEDGED ( by ALL who ARE Deadheads) as one of THE most REVERED pieces of music that they have. "St. Stephen" is the creme' de la creme' and "Good Times, Bad Times fits SOOO SEAMLESSLY inside the "Stephen" instrumental, it is a natural and beautiful thing!!!
what's all this east-west rivalry? I must have warped into some kind of rap music room. Please let these doggs out!
Reggie - Don't you mean Derek Trucks?
Ya know what's scary??? You know we all knew who he meant!
We "major power chorders" (guitarists) agree, St
Stephen/GdTms,BdTms/St Stephen does fit SO
SEAMLESSLY. this earwitness enjoyed listening to
Know the answer to the Q: which of these two
tunes was written/recorded and performed before
the other? for that matter, which of these two
bands were writing/recording and performing before
all ears - silly rabbitry
Yes, I meant Derek. (I guess my conditioning is showing.)
which came first the grateful or the dead?
no, I mean, which came first the zeppelin or the
no no no.
who came first, my mother or my father? what?
where did that come.... well, I could try asking?
One too many trips, Mauryce?
SJF, I was dancin', just not moving my feet....
BTW- I have heard some great ZEP boots. Key has an EX QTY Cleveland '77, want a copy?
I love Trampled Under Foot.
How about P&F (NOT PLQ!!!!) playing 'No Quater'? I love that too, might fit their style also.
It is incredibly refreshing to see a bunch of musicians have such a great time up there and have such respect for the audience. For them to play GTBT was so cool. Its what we all wanted to hear and they came through. With these guys, set list does not matter at all. Its the shit that happens in between the songs that works for me. Five guys taking lead at the same time and it sounds great. Phils bombs during Midnight Hour were bone shaking to say the least and i love Warrens Gibson sound. Could it be any louder? love that and Herring is quite the perfect foil for the others. Molo what can you say? How many appendiges(sp?) does this guy have anyway? This show renewed my faith in not only live music but people in general. Met so many nice people (Bucky Mrs Bucky et al) and all those in our section. 180 degrees from the assholes at Roseland. Jones Beach was even cool (no cavity search) Weather cooperated and saw alot of old friends. Thanks guys. For all.
That's great Key: "This has NOTHING to do with an INDIVIDUAL'S likes and/or dislikes. " You sure straightened me out on this one!
That's MY take on it.
Of course, Mike..you're CERTAINLY entitled to your own opinions and feelings.
That was just my perspective on it.
Finally got around to listening to this show - they tease Zep's "The Rain Song" just before Scarlet - but in listening to the shows afterwards, you pick up so many teases and things its hard to keep track of. Actually, this was my least favorite show of the tour - the Stella - NFA seemed like they played on autopilot - alot like another band I used to see alot - but 2 songs out of 8 shows is more than a fair deal. Actually, I loved Stella in the middle of Terrapin at Greatwoods, and NFA at the Greek seguing in and out of other jams - sometimes just a matter of set and setting, as they say. Also loved the rest of Jones except end of 1st set, and China Cat should have gone into the 11 (but then it wouldn't have been used so well at Holmdel). Actually, Holmdel was THE SHOW to me.
better late than never...
where to start?
As I approached the bathhouse area at the designated meeting time, I said to Truant that its kind of weird looking at complete strangers wondering .." is that Bucky? looks like he could be a Bucky... is that Jill? he looks like a Tapecat..." but within minutes I was approached by a dude who said " you're the guy from the Philzone!" followed very quickly by " where's my tape?" (nice to meet you Peter/Pedro. glad you enjoyed hangin out, best of luck on the homefront) with that, it was off to the races...
Immediately saw the flag flyin proud in the lot and I set off to see what the dilly was. As I approached the crowd cautiously, still fearing a Star Trek convention, I was immediately taken by the sound of laughter and genuine good vibes emanating from this ecclectic gathering of misfits ( and I mean that in the nicest way ). In true Gen Admin fashion, I barged to the middle of this gathering and declared " I am Brick " to who ever was listening. the rest is history/blurry. I recall a guy introducing me around to all the faithful (Dan, Iris, Schnee, Ms. Buck, Bosphan, who confirmed that Crypt IS a real dude-this was both refreshing/frightening at the same time-sorry you couldn't make it , bro ). after a few moments I said, "great, now wheres Bucky?" the guy who was kind enough to intro me around said
' I'm Bucky!" man you could have knocked me over with a feather. not how I pictured you, my friend, not even close!
anyway, our Celestial Sherpa, Jill, was in the middle of a card reading so I waited to intro myself. Tapecat was already inside ( no surprise, the dude had the FIRST parking spot in the whole damn lot!) and others were coming and going. I went back to my van, got truant and my tapes and went back to the flag to distribute from my kharma bag... hope you all enjoyed the tapes!
ended up hanging at my van for awhile with Jill and Dan(?) and I must say, overall, this was one of the finest tailgating trips of my long and sordid touring career.
anyway, it was time to go in. Went to my sweeeet seats and immediately saw a Team Phil shirt on some guy. Ed from NYC, it was an honor meeting you. saw another guy with one and it was Mr. Jill! then Jill floated by, asked if she could keep her sandals under my chair, then floated away ( Jill it was an absolute pleasure meeting you. to you I offer the highest compliment one can get, you are genuine!) show started and I was blown away. I echo Truants earlier comments about how civil and relaxed everyone was on this particular night.It was amazing. when the lights went down, I asked this older couple next to us if they would mind if we sparked some kind. To my surprise/glee, they said "only if you don't share it!" I then offered it up to the folks in front of me who politefully declined but said their friend would be grateful. told em to pass it on...they did...the rest is history. Scarlet/Fire crushing the 25 minute mark ( or so it seemed), taking care of the unfinished Roseland Zep tease, china/rider etc. etc. while setlists can tend to look generic after awhile this is a must listen to show. the tapes won't lie. Celebration was a disappointing opener ( for me) They could have left Stella home (m.o. ) and despite Warren's best efforts, I think Jimmy stole the show. Phil really stepped back and let the kids have some fun until... the bombs... these things vibrated every bone in your body, it was laughable how loud they were!
between sets, Team Phil gathered as planned and I was able to meet the Cat. it was a pleasure, bro, thanks for sharing the tunes!!! as I'm talking to Bucky and a friend of my from college comes up ( haven't seen him in close to ten years) turns out he and Buck know each other from touring way back! small fuckin world, wouldn't want to paint it...
all in all, a great show and an even better evening
thanks to all who participated. I really dug meeting ALL of you. Thanks for my Team Phil shirt, Jill. Thanks for the discs Buck ( and Puckewedan)
To the faithful, lets do it again sometime and, if our paths should never cross again, God bless you all
its all about the music
always has been
Wish I had met all you zoners at Alpine! I only had an hour to spend in the lot before showtime, & after was out like a flash. What a trip it was taking my 5 month old to her first show. Keeping her safe & out of the sun was my focus. It was too hot to wear my phil shirt, so instead I had it tied to the kiddie backpack... Scoped for anyone & everyone in a team phil shirt, but no luck. I knew you were out there somewhere..Maybe this fall I'll be lucky to meet some of you kind folks! :*)
About Philís comments after the show, he said something to the effect of: "Thank You NYC, I don't know what it is but you-all allow us to get it out" Out being the Phil Bombs during the second set in particular. Midnight hour was incredible. First time Iíve seen Phil play that tune. As somebody posted earlier, watch you sub woofers when this CD comes out, it was the loudest Iíve herd Phil play is some 40-60 dead shows.
BTW anybody have a tape of Cole Park Conn. I think the show was in 1975 ish. It was the last concert at Cole Park Conn. Anyhow, Phil came out 2-4 hours before the outdoor concert start time and stated, "This is not part of the show, just a tune up" and proceeded to jam by himself for about 1/2 hour. This show was great just the the Rosively show a mointh earlier in 7/75. Anybody got the show?
It's COLT Park & the date is 8-2 or 6-76. It's 2 days away from the famous 8-4-76 Roosevelt Stadium show.
My friend told me the show was over, encore played & everybody was leaving. As he got to the exit, Sugar Mag started & everyone turned around & rushed back in.......
It was broadcast on WHCN's Dead hour recently, so maybe somebody in the Hartford area taped it.
I'm new to posting here - been lurking a bit though...just wanted to concur with Mike Aiko that this show will kill your speakers when it does come out!!! Phil was soooo loud. We were sitting straight back from the stage, right in front of the tapers and I could feel Phil going through my entire body - it was GREAT!!!!!!!
can't wait for PHall Tour!!!!
>>>this show will kill your speakers when it does come out!!! Phil was soooo loud.
You should've been in Hartford. The whole floor was shaking during Slipknot.
PS "If it's too loud, you're too old."
Buck she was in Hartford, i'd bet....
Jones Beach was definitely LOUD, LOUDER, LOUDEST
go listen to that Rider, Buck and how our tape source had to turn levels down as Phil hits not just bombs but an all out assault NYC in-your-face style...Mercy!!
You are correct, irisguy, I was in Hartford too. I do agree that the slipknot! was nuts there and loud, but Jones Beach was REALLY LOUD!! I loved every minute of feeling Phil's bass go through me!
still waiting on the cd's of Jones Beach though - I can't wait to hear it again!!!!!
Thanks for the clarification, although I think the Colt Park show was originally scheduled for before the famous 8/4/76 Roosevelt Stadium, however Colt got pushed out till sometime after Roosevelt.
So anyhow about the, to steal a slogan "In-Your-Face" Jones Beach show. This show was as good as it get's! Phil played his heart out. St. was top-notch, Midnight Hour was top-per notch. My big problem is getting my hands on the recording. You have any suggestions Bud?
PS: If it's too loud your too young!
Well, now that it's October. Jones Beach on disc is actually better than it was live...don't believe me, get a copy. It changed me forever that night, I continue to evolve everytime I listen to it. And just for kicks, the GTBT rocks, but that doesn't mean the whole show doesn't.
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By Love (Lovelightmama) on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 11:04 pm: Edit
congradulations to my dad and 12 yrold bro for attending their first show tonight and loving it. My bro asked me if he could come to Jersey
tomorrow and is ready to buy a bus and paint it tye dyed, he's definately got the bug. It was amazing to see them experience the light for the first time. Phil, and the boys were amazing and gave an awsome performance. I didnt see one person bopthered for puffing and it was an herb factory in there! And at the midnight hour, analogous to the encore, the starts came out!
what an evening much love
By chris (Njphilphreak) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 07:32 am: Edit
Very kewl LLM good to hear you enjoyed the shows. Went to SPAC and FL's but missed Jones. Had some bad experiences there with the Dead.
From the setlist should have made more of an effort. Bringing my gf's 2 younger brothers to their first show at PNC today. Hope they are ready to get on the bus as well.
By chinadoll (Chinadoll) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 10:33 am: Edit
Just out of curiousity...but when did the Dead play Jones beach? I've been heavy on Dead tour since 79 and dont recall them jamming at the
Beach. Maybe one slipped by me...hmmmmmmmmmm
By Andrew Gunn (Agunn) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 10:41 am: Edit
Last nights Jones Beach show continued the trend of extremely intense shows Phil has been playing on this tour. They came out around 8:15 and
opened with Celebration which was low energy and a little sloppy. The band soon found its legs on an extended jam that led into a massive
Scarlet>Fire that was the centerpiece of the 1st set. The transition jam started off normally before veering into some deep space. Eventually the band worked its way into a very uptempo Fire with Phil, Rob and Warren each taking a verse. The jam after the first verse was loud and intense.
After the second verse they slowed it down to a more GD like tempo before wrapping it up with the Scarlet reprise ending. After a brief pause they
closed the set out with a double shot of Warren Haynes doing Patchwork Quilt>Just a little light. Both were great versions showcasing Warrens
powerful vocals. Little light built to a tremendous peak before ending the set.
The second set opened with a long melodic jam that led into an epic St. Stephen that had to be 20 minutes long. Warren sang the first verse of
Good Times, Bad Times in the middle of Stephen without missing a beat. The jam during Stephen peaked, went down and re-peaked several times
before the song came to a close. Stephen provided a launching pad for an incredible China>Rider that words cannot do justice to, get the tape!
After Rider was a brief pause then a beautiful Stella Blue that provided a needed breather after the ferocity of China>Rider. The show closed with
NFA and a Midnight Hour encore. Having endured years of perfunctory versions of these tunes by the dead I wasn't too excited to hear them.
However, this band takes these simple rockers to a new and exciting level that brought the show to a powerful close.
ps- to the previous poster, I don't know how you could have had bad experiences with the Dead at Jones Beach as they most certainly never
By Jake Barbarella (Eyenoewewriter) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 11:26 am: Edit
i've got to get a copy of the Jones Beach show. It was my first Phil (and GD-related) show, and it was an amazing experience. The Stella Blue,
even without Jerry's angelic voice, was astounding. And nothing can beat a St. Stephen sandwich...especially last night's. So please PLEASE if
anyone has a good bootleg, I'd like it very much. Let me know via this message board and I'll contact you again. Thanks so much, and long live Phil
By Kozmic Hail (Hail) on Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 09:40 am: Edit
My 5th Phil show, after hundreds of Dead shows my jaw is still on the floor but my feets keep movin' like lightning. Please oh please tape me; need
to hear it again..and again...and again.....