4-16-04 DeadMule - Warfield - SF, CA

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howie Rich (Howiej1) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 06:20 pm: Edit Post

I think I have seen over 150 shows at the Warfield here in SF. Last night , after being laid-off, again, I decided to go check out Gov't Mule, as i had not seen a show there since the Dead in February. Tcikets were a measly 20 bucks and I got row G on the balcony whcih made my girlfriend happy.

Anyway, the Mule played a decent first set that clocked in about 2 hours. During the set, Warren and the Boys teased some Santana tunes and I was told by my friends at the Warfield that he was supposed to show up and play with the Mule for the second and third sets. Apparently Carlos couldn't make the long drive down from Marin, so some other folks decided to literally "pop-out" during the opening 10 minute tuning on the opening of the second set--> First, Phil came out and jammed with Warren and the boys for a while, and then Bobbycame out and then finally Billy and Mickey and Jeff.

Unfotunately, I was too b lown away to write down the whole 2nd set, but I will say that it was honestly 90 times better than last years Valentine's Day show or this year's Winter Jam. The band was tight, tight, tight throughout the set.

I do remember that they did do a killer version of The Other One and a groovy Viola Lee Blues.


The whole show lasted about 5 1/2 hours and was awesome !!! I just hope the Dead can keep that energy level up throughout the summer !!!

Peace


H


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sid (Stage_shadow) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 07:03 pm: Edit Post

Ah yes last night at the Warfield. I remember it well.......

Some parts I remember. Excellent renditions of Sugaree and Viola Lee. Good energy but needed Jimmy to takes us through Jerry's parts.

Felt sorry for the Mule fans. For the 1000th show I think they thought they were going to get more Mule droppings.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sheifer (Stonageq) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 04:24 am: Edit Post

First set: Mule rocked...
Second Set: Phil and the drummers jammed with Warren for a nice jam, then Weir came out, and the night went to shit. I left during the limp Lovelight.
Other than a passable "Cryptical", the Dead sucked the life out of the place, and, unfortunately, Bobby is the main reason.
Bob I loved you in the Grateful Dead, but this is getting ridiculous. Please, ride off into the sunset, gracefully; this is too painful for me to watch anymore.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe fabes (Skyboy) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 07:59 am: Edit Post

Bob, I am ridin into the sunset with Bobby, and the rest of them.(the daylight is way over rated)Sorry they ruined your five and and half hour Mule show and the key word is show.I raise my glass to Warren Haynes the 21st. centuries Jerry Garcia. Warren the man with out an ego that will go anywhere and play with anyone for the song.
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sheifer (Stonageq) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 11:35 am: Edit Post

I hear ya, Joe. There seemed to be two camps Fri. night - the younger heads were wigglin' and dancin' away, grinnin' and sweatin'. The older heads were sitting, harrumphing with their arms folded. I was, unfortunately, in the latter group...

One more word on Mr. Velveeta: In his time, Bob Weir was one of rock's consummate showmen. But he is now like the drunk old uncle who shows up uninvited to family events, and everyone tolerates him cuz' they love him and hey, he's family...

I will toast Mr. Haynes with you; Kimmock may have been truer to Jerry's guitar style, but Haynes is channeling his spirit. Anything involving him and Phil will be awesome, despite Boppin' Bob...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By hans voight (Steelhead420) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:24 pm: Edit Post

Congrats to the hardest working man in the music business, Warren Haynes, for Mule's 1000th show. Mule is kicking some serious ass these days and their first and third sets on friday proved that for the uninitiated.

I preface this next comment by saying I thought the February Dead show was a good one- and left the Warfield that night optimistic about the future for the current lineup.

The Dead set with Warren on Friday was weak sauce, however. Bob the embarrassing uncle comment hits it on the head, but they all seemed out of synch to be honest. To my ears their entire set sounded muddy and uninspired compared to what came before and afterwards. No need to be overly negative but I hope those guys find time to rehearse before tour starts.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roarshock (Roarshock) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:52 pm: Edit Post

As an "older head," I can't figure out what the fuck you guys are complaining about. This was my first full on Mule show, and I enjoyed that band very much. I was introduced to Warren through his work with Phil, and have been very impressed. Great to finally see him fronting his own band.

The Dead's set was high energy fun. Obviously they all enjoyed it termendously, and they were tight and conjuring magick! Maybe it was the quality of what I was smoking, but I don't think that's all it was. Uncle Bob has always emoted on stage in weird ways, and that hasn't changed, nor will it. Difference is that now it's Phil and Warren laughing at him, rather than Phil and Jerry. Bob isn't going anywhere, so keep complaining guys, or stop going.

Warren is on the bus, and it looks to me like he knows it, and appreciates it. I know I sure do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roarshock (Roarshock) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:54 pm: Edit Post

By the way... I would like to see the full setlist for the evening. Hopefully somebody will post it...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jamie (Mountainchain) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 02:13 pm: Edit Post

>Moved over from the Rumours board:
Last Night:

After a high energy first set from Gov't Mule it was obvious what was going down as they switched bass amps, brought out a second drum set, bobby's amp and some more mics, but nothing for Jimmy.

Mule came out and started a quiet jam. Phil joined in pretty quickly and helped craft a beautifully themed jam before they all launched into Forest of Fennario. Then the rest of the boys came out and Mule left.

The Dead (minus Jimmy) @ The Warfield 4/16/04
Jam
Cryptical>
Drumz>
Other One V1>
Wang Dang Doodle>
Other One V2>
Sugaree
Viola (V1 & V2)>
Lovelight (w/ Matt and Danny)

Highlights: The Opening Jam, Sugaree, and Lovelight, without question. A lot of the rest had the feel of a rehearsal. For example, when they finished Cryptical, the drummers launched into the Other One theme immediately. Phil went nuts. It looked like he was trying to stop the band, but he seemed to be satisfied when Billy and Mickey dropped the theme and took a solo. Long time before the first verse comes in Other One, and afterwards they melted down into a dissonant, Phil-led jam, but when Phil tried to bring them back to the Other One theme, Bobby just played Wang Dang Doodle right on top of him. Phil looked exasperated and dropped his hands away from his bass, but joined right back in. Then, after they get rolling on what was actually a well-played Wang Dang Doodle, Phil starts smiling at Bobby (during the jam between the 2nd and 3rd verses) and throws a short Other One jam in underneath the melody. They finish up Wang Dang and we all knew where it was going from there.

So, there was a lot of this kind of miscommunication on stage, but they really hit their stride in Lovelight, which had a fantastic jam in the middle with the band firing on all cylinders. Great solo from Jeff here, and in Sugaree too.

One more thing: the opening jam was really nice. They seemed light on their feet at first, and Phil even threw in a little Dark Star tease before in morphed into a Scarlet-sounding jam.

And after all this, Mule comes out for another set. Wow! Best $20 I ever spent. Gotta love life in the Bay...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit Post

>>..sucked the life out...

That is a good thing is it not..??..

BTW..once ya suck it out..I don't care what ya do with it..

Ha..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sheifer (Stonageq) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 02:54 pm: Edit Post

Thanks for the great review, Jamie - yes, Phil DID seemed ready to blow a gasket after Crytpical!..your review was accurate, and fair.

Unfortunately, the Lovelight sent me running for the door, altho I HAD heard rumorz of a set III from GM - could anybody provide the full setlist for III, and tell me what time the show let out?...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenk (Osorojo) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit Post

howdy folks,

the show was magnificent! the Dead's set was powerful and something very magical happened to Mr Bob Weir that evening...I know that anything I say about Weir's performance friday night is going to be met with instant negativity by many on this discussion list... I'm not a huge Weir fan by any stretch but his playing was the biggest surprise of the evening...it was the Bob we've been wanting for a long time. serious playing, blending his newer lead style with the classic rhythm chops. there was none of the silliness and stage posturing we've come to know so well...Bob just stepped it up and was right there in the sway between Phil and Warren, at one point Phil was standing right next to and behind Bob's left shoulder, the two of them just clicking like I've never seen those two do, and the cackling skeleton grin on Phil's face the entire time said it all...

...now a very interesting angle to this is the guitar that Bob was playing for most of the set. looked to be a Fender Strat, beautiful blonde wood version. the sound from this guitar and his set-up was definitely different that anything I've heard from Weir before. so I'm telling this to a friend last night and she starts in on how that must be "the guitar" Weir referred to in a recent interview or something...turns out this particular guitar belonged to Bob's birth father. apparently Bob found his actual birth parents 2 years ago and they live in Marin County, and his father is a guitarist! and this was one of his guitars that he gave to Bob. magical, yeah I'd say there is something magical about this guitar and where Weir's gonna go with it... go ahead and discount Bob all you want but what I heard and saw friday night has me very psyched to see The Dead this summer...

and all of it would not have been possible without the incredible humility and love of sharing the stage and the music that Warren brings with him everywhere he goes. it was the Mule's 1000th show and he turned the 2nd set over to his other bandmates and let them run with it. Warren didn't make any attempt to take the spotlight or the lead, he just sat back and jammed and actually waited for the other guys to do there thing before stepping in with some beautifully understated playing. It was actually very cool to hear The Dead without Herring, I'd go so far as to say the lineup friday night is "complete" and the need for another guitar player virtually unnecessary. but I know Jimmy's gonna add even more to this band, and it should be very fun to watch it all progress this summer.

comment on older fans and younger fans... I had balcony seats and was there for the Mule's 2 sets. the balcony was definitely the older, mellower crowd, but only in the sense that they just don't get up and dance hard. they are so focused on the music and you can feel the intensity from this group. I met some wonderful folks friday night up there, and when me and my gal wanted to boogie we just walked up to the aisle at the top and went off. there was definitely a younger contingent on the floor, but mostly only on Warren's side. some of these kids I've seen @ Panic shows, and with Panic on hiatus I said a while back that Warren [Mule and Allmans] would be one place many of them would end up to get their groove on this year. these kids do get a bit territorial but they dance and party hard soo you know what you're getting into when you join up with them. on the other side of the floor were the older fans, and almost all guys. there for Phil mainly, I've kinda seen this phenomenon at PLQ shows over the last few years. LOTS of guys just standing there, and many of them always looking at the gals that are throwin down. My gal said she felt some strange vibes from many of them during the evening. She didn't even know who Warren Haynes was b4 friday night, so she came to the music and the vibe from a very un-polluted place. The Dead will have the ability to draw from a huge range of fans and it's up to all of us to embrace and tolerate all the tribes, unless they are truly dis-respecting other individuals. if we can't do it at a show then how do we lead by example? and guys, bring some ladies to the shows 'cause we need more of that energy to balance things out!

...review in one sentence: Kymberly said after the show "the way those guys communicate with their guitars....ay yi yi!"

...of course your mileage may vary. thanks for the bandwidth, anyone have the show yet for trade or B&P?

Oso Rojo


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By blind willy (Lemonhead) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 03:08 pm: Edit Post

To a limited extent, the momentum that Mule had going was kinda shot once the boys hit the stage, but I attribute that more to the song selection and less to the performance of anyone in particular (ala, Bob).

The Mule was rockin pretty hard, and I think a scarlet or help>slip might have provided better continuity to the overall flow of the show.

As far as I'm concerned, the show was first and foremost a Mule event, and the Dead was merely an added treat. Oh yeah, nobody has mentioned how badass Andy Hess is as Mule's new bottom end. That guy kicks some serious ass!




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenk (Osorojo) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit Post

yeah ANDY HESS rocks, the perfect bassist for The Mule!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith (Fitzman) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit Post

I just finished listening to the "Dead set" and I have to agree with Hans Voight: these guys definitely need to rehearse. The music was slow, plodding, un-inspired, weak, etc. If this is a harbinger of this summer's tour, Iwnat my money back already!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By hans voight (Steelhead420) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit Post


Here's a setlist, although i think its still missing a Mule tune or two(?)

Government Mule (1000th show)
4/16/4
The Warfield
San Francisco CA


I.Drum solo->jam-> Blind Man in the Dark->Game Face,Birth of the Mule, Slow Happy Boys,
Fool's Moon, Bad Little Doggie, How Many More Years?->I'm Going Upstairs->Higher Ground->
How Many More Years?, One,When Doves Cry->Beautifully Broken->
When Doves Cry->Beautifully Broken->Thorazine Shuffle

II. Lay of the Sunflower@, Cryptical Envelopment-#>The Other One#->Wang Dang#
Doodle->
The Other One#, Sugaree#, Viola Lee Blues*->Lovelight*

@=Mule with Phil, no Andy(?);
#=Mule left and the Dead (minus Herring) joined Warren
*=Danny Louis and Matt Apts return to the stage

III. John the Revelator&-> Fiyo on the Bayou&-> Fallen Down&, Drums&,Bass,Keys-> 32-20 Blues, Mule->
major jamming-> Mule

E: Soulshine


&-with Zigaboo Modeliste of the Funky Meters on drums, may have stayed for the entire set, not sure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By hans voight (Steelhead420) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit Post

Here's a setlist, although i think its still missing a Mule tune or two(?)

Government Mule (1000th show)
4/16/4
The Warfield
San Francisco CA


I.Drum solo->jam-> Blind Man in the Dark->Game Face,Birth of the Mule, Slow Happy Boys,
Fool's Moon, Bad Little Doggie, How Many More Years?->I'm Going Upstairs->Higher Ground->
How Many More Years?, One,When Doves Cry->Beautifully Broken->
When Doves Cry->Beautifully Broken->Thorazine Shuffle

II. Lay of the Sunflower@, Cryptical Envelopment-#>The Other One#->Wang Dang#
Doodle->
The Other One#, Sugaree#, Viola Lee Blues*->Lovelight*

@=Mule with Phil, no Andy(?);
#=Mule left and the Dead (minus Herring) joined Warren
*=Danny Louis and Matt Apts return to the stage

III. John the Revelator&-> Fiyo on the Bayou&-> Fallen Down&, Drums&,Bass,Keys-> 32-20 Blues, Mule->
major jamming-> Mule

E: Soulshine


&-with Zigaboo Modeliste of the Funky Meters on drums, may have stayed for the entire set, not sure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By triptanite (Triptanite) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 11:23 am: Edit Post

Seems like (if anything) what slows down The Dead these days is the drummers - while still great - seem to keep everything at a rather slow pace and don't ignite while transitioning songs, which in many cases leaves the songs at a bogged down pace and that could be a reason for some of the issues at hand regarding "Dead-Lag".

Billy K. just doesn't have the "Molo" effect being Mr. Molo actually speeds up when necessary never allowing the next song to be played at a slowed down pace..

The Dead are learning to the best of their ability to transition songs effortlessly like PLQ which hopefully will happen sooner than later.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A Wizard (Bcrawford) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit Post

>>>To a limited extent, the momentum that Mule had going was kinda shot once the boys hit the stage

I was at the show, and I completely disagree. I thought mule's first set was OK, but I thought the Dead completely blew it away. I mean not even close. I thought Mule's 3rd set was way beter than their first.

>>>The music was slow, plodding, un-inspired, weak, etc. If this is a harbinger of this summer's tour, Iwnat my money back already!

Yeah, I would sell your tickets. If you you didnt like that, I would say that this band is just not for you. While I have little doubt that they will get tighter with a bit of practice, this is basically what they will sound like. Save yourself the disapointment and dont go.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy {Rabi}Kiarsis (Rambleonrabi) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit Post

I'm sitting here listening to the dead set again,and if I close my eyes and just listen it sounds like some show from '67-'68.From the beginning of the other1.And I agree with A Wizard if you don't like this then you may not like them later this summer.
What I love about The Dead is they take more chances then they did at the end with Jerry.And some of what they have done is great and some not so great,but we have them doing this and that is GREAT.And we need to remember that Jimmy was not at this show,and at times I think you can hear them leaving holes for him.I really think they will Rock this summer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Christopher Butterfly (Hippyert23) on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit Post

I was at the show on Friday night and I called most all of the Dead showing up that night. I was down on the floor, and I thought both the Mule and the Dead were really rocking. I'm not sure what all you complainers are looking for from the Dead, but I was so very happy to be where I was listening to wonderful music that night. From where I was, it sounded like beautiful waves of joy emminating from the stage. And for $20 at such an intimate venue, you'll hear no complaining from me. 6 1/2 hours of music, and Andy Hessfrom the Black Crowes on Bass! F'ing Fantastic.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By spear man (Spear_man) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:25 pm: Edit Post

What the fuck are you jerk offs talking about- the "uninvited uncle". Have you forgotten that he wrote or co-wrote most of the fucking songs you're listening to by the Dead? He's the one who does the inviting you fucking clowns. While he is not physically an extraordinary player, his is an extraordinary musician (in song writing and rhythm composition) who has always played with gifted players. That says something- you fucks. Fuck all you narrow minded cocky mother fuckers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sheifer (Stonageq) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit Post

Chill-out, spear man, I know Bobby has written some great Dead tunes. It's just that he is ruining the dynamic Jimmy and Warren had developed in PLQ, that's all. If you read any reviews of the summer 'Dead' tour, they verify this fact.
There's Bobby songs, and Jerry songs, and I'd be more understanding if Bobby wouldn't RUIN classic Jerry tunes: Loser, Mission, countless others. I'll paraphrase one of the San Diego reviewers: Jerry is surely turning over in his grave...


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