Now this should be an interesting evening. I have an extra on the floor section 6 row 20 (about back of board). If anyone is in need I would like $75.00 for it. Leave an email or phone #.

With that out of the way, may I just take a moment to say (complain) that for me the most enticing part of the Grateful Dead scene had always been the love and support and respect we showed the band as well as each other. I find this fairly lacking in both the behaviors (constant talking during shows) and rhetoric (mean and nasty posts) that have become part and parcel to this scene. I can stop going to shows at any time and at least know I have experienced the possibilities that come with these bands. I wish to continue, but I grieve for the good people out there who come "searching for the sound" but only get to hear some lame conversations of those around them. Blast away if you must, but at least I will be aware the next time they play Alligator and try to listen to that and not all the other "important stuff" going on around me.

I hope Bob opens the show with a roaring Hell in A Bucket - and screams "Unable to dance I'll crawl" as an f-you to all the people dissing him over last night.

Stu and Joegs...I couldn't agree more. I am going tomorrow and hoping for the best. I never understood the Bob bashing. It took the perfect mix to create and sustain the grateful dead and he was always a big part of that mix. When I saw the video of last nights show it made feel very sad (and old). Hope I get "that feeling" once again tomorrow night after 34 years of listening with my eyes closed and my mouth shut.

THis is gonna be one smokin' show. I'm psyched and can't wait to head down GSP tmw. The boys won't let us down. Still a few ducats left. Come on down y'all and shake them bones.

I am very impressed, Stus! Way to go, pal. You passed the thread test with flying colours! Y'all enjoy the show and <<<<<boblove>>>>> from all of us @ The PhilZone!

Touch of Grey opener for sure....Bobby will want to make up for last night!

Grate thread start Stus! It will be the best one for this show with second place going to whoever puts one up in the "other" section for people who are too cool to post on the Furthur review thread.

Perfect T-Up to put it in Adam Dean lingo

I am probably not going due to the 2.5 hour drive and the grate weather predicted here. I am not sure what will happen. Is Bob in too much pain to play, will he come out rockin', will he take the night off?

No matter what happens BoB wrote half the music to all these songs we love and they are some awesome tunes. He is capable of playing his hybrid rhythm rock style

in top-notch form. I always hope Bob plays his thick chords and fills that complete these songs. He has played really well recently when I saw him in Broomfield and some of the Cap shows too. I always hope his tempo will be fast and his guitar won't be to treblesome but that is not always the case. I still know this band is one of the best touring right now.

This band can still be grate! I wish they would use Phil's sound guy and that Bob will rock loud and fast with the band. Doesn't always happen but last night there were a lot of shithead comments on this board.

I hope everyone has a grate show whether you are in AC live or listening to it free through TR stream or other.

Bottom line is I hope they figure out how to keep this band together. Bob and the boys have rocked in this venture and can again!

Great posts. Thanks all. To everyone at the show tonight: give the boys (and Sunshine) our love.

Adam keep in mind you have failed the thread test twice so don't get to excited. Instead of congratulating you should be bubbling with question for the best and brightest 'threadsters' in the Zone. I'm holding online classes at philzone.info for threadstarting...cone join us it's just 45 bucks per day and you get you own comments template as a gift so you just fill in the blanks. We do commandeer your 401k and 22% I automatically tacked on to the 'thread foundation' where wharf rats and school kids teach adults the art of threadstarting. It's an ancient tradition started by the Gore family when he and tipper were firing up ye ole Internet.

Big show tonight. Estimated is a lock. As is Fire and help slip...

Looking foward to tonights show,Bobby may you be philled with light and love from all,the trees,the streams,the mountains and dreams...

Stu you are right on..I can't believe how much talking goes on, people on dates that think the music is in the background; my cure is to zone all the talking out if you can and focus on the music...good luck tonight, may you find a good space to listen.

Very good chance for tonight-Hell in A Bucket/Estimated/Loose Lucy/Truckin hopeful for Here Comes the Sun and Time. I was at Thursday-you can't unsee what you have seen-Phil was great for rallying but it was too much to overcome. I will be in the 3rd row streaming good vibes to Bobby tonight. I do not want to raise expectations(I had 'high' hopes Thurs), but I do feel they owe me/us a little bit for what transpired. Stay positive and have some fun-it's Saturday Night!

Race is on! In honor of George Jones tonight.

All the comments above are exactly the reason I come to this board. The positivity is fantastic. Stu, Tom, and everyone elses comments have me pumped up for a great show and a fun positively influenced discussion board tonight. I've never understood going to a show spending the whole time talking like a bunch of friends around the coffee table as if there was no band playing. As for the Bobby haters that doesn't even fit into my head why there is so much of that. See everyone tonight.

God Bless Bob Weir and Furthur, keep it rolling boys! Cant wait for tonight. Enjoying the Ride !

Cause when he's driving his chopper
Up and down your carpeted halls,
You will think me by contrast quite proper.
Never mind how I stumble and fall.
Never mind how I stumble and fall

I wonder if there is any way to organize "quiet sections" at shows. Any thoughts?

I too hope to see Bobby come roaring back tonight. I am glad he has his privacy but not idea why JK stated he took an Ambien instead of a painkiller when there are still lots of people saying it was booze. The Ambien story and a strong return tonight would be very encouraging. Booze and the band taking the stage without him tonight will add a lot to the heartbreak of the whole thing. Truckin' or Hell opener. Guess we'll know soon enough.

I'm fired up for tonight and think they will come out roaring as well. I'm assuming taperrob is on the scene but does anyone know for sure?

I try to tell folks like it is. Imagine your child, seven or eight years old up on the stage playing their violin at a school concert. Do you think you would appreciate or tolerate some lame conversations at that particular time?

I have been going to these shows since before my kids were born. These performers are my family (along with many others in the audience who feel the same way) and deserve the attention and respect that should be given.

I have to place some of the blame on today's parenting skills, the "here, take this cell phone, Wii system, car, and some cash and go behave yourself" mentality. People are not taught about respect,self respect, limitations on personal freedoms, and the fact that just because you want to do something does not make it okay to do it. That is not what community is about. There is room for everybody in this here forum, but it does come down to the music and the music loses when there are constant distractions. I have no problem with standing, dancing, singing, twirling, or jumping up and down. This place is a CHURCH, and deserves the same limitations that a civil society would prefer be seen in a church setting. A little respect, a little quiet, a little attention, and maybe we can gleam a little bit of that light that used to put those sunny smiles on our faces, and that heart melting love in our hearts.

Please.... and peace

here here stu Are you taking offerings?

please let TRob be there

Confirming TRob's attendance.

For$100.00 a ticket this was a truly pathetic spectacle! Does the band think we're idiots? One ambien does not do that to a person, of course if mixed with vast amounts of other pills and alcohol thrown into the mix, it could. Bob was not with it the night before, and obviously has a severe drinking problem. So he doesn't warrant any pass whatsoever for unbelievably unprofessional behavior to a paying crowd, with tickets waaaay overpriced for the music being displayed. Out of the 9 nights, only 2 , maybe 3 shows were truly excellent. Certainly woefully inconsistent, leading to Thursday's ultimate debacle. Jerry mumbled, fumbled lyrics, but NEVER came close to falling onto the stage. At least he had a shred of dignity and knew when to exit.

go get high Cdurfee

If you get high the music sounds better DUDE! Your like a no newbie!

I know one thing, and that's tonight is gonna be seriously much, much better! Maybe gonna be the best show of this mini-tour.

Two or three excellent shows? By my count there were seven. And even the first Monday was very enjoyable. What Bobby and Phil have given to this community cannot be measured by the ticket price. Let's get ready for tonight.

It doesn't matter anyway.....

Cdurfee, you bitch about only 2 or 3 good shows, claim Bobby has a severe drinking problem, but then let Garcia off the hook for standing up, when he had a drug habit that plagued him for years even to to point the band wanted intervention, and the last year or better of Dead shows were marginal at best........interesting.

Looks like an hour earlier show time tonight 7 pm?

Bobby doesn't have go that route, ala Jerry, none of us want to see that!!!! Forgivable what happened, absolutely, forgettable, no way. I mean it's good to move on already, but it was a pretty big deal!!
Won't, can't happen tonight! Full cylinder, at least 8 song 1st set, wall to wall, arena energy barn burner!

wow Cdurf, u just blew a hole in the good vibes rolling out in this community! Bitch about ticket price ~ DON'T GO! Bitch about your pathetic assumption that Bobby is a drunk ~ DON'T GO! Bitch about out of 9 shows, only 2 maybe 3 shows were truly excellent ~ DON'T GO! Those of us who are Dead to the Core, take the good with the bad, we don't lay expectations down, we enjoy the musical journey because [like Stu said] this is Church to us man!! This is my way of escape and to 'play in the band' I have been 'blind all the time I was learning to see' and I am always 'searching for the sound and listening for the secret!' It's a jam band, it's improv ~ the music is living and when they boys get lost, you hang on because they will bring it around. For instance, Bobby lost it a little in 'Jack Straw' on Tues the 16th [just like Jerry, forgetting lyrics], but man they tore the fuckin' hell out of the rest of that song, like they always do!! Why? Because it's a symbiotic relationship w/ the band and the audience and they get that! CDurfee, you just don't get it man!

CDurf, chances that they make it up for the other night ~ Good, but they march at the their own beat. They will do it because of the relationship they have with their truly deadicated brothers and sisters. Not for people like you, who EXPECT them to do it and will surely BITCH if it doesn't happen! You will whine again tonight if they don't lay it down like you want! Get lost man!

My first post to this site where hopefully the talk is cheap and the vision true:

I was amongst the faithful on 11/25/78 in New Haven when after an hour or so of pre-show preparation much of the crowd was "primed", only to see Bobby & Mickey walk out and have to explain that Jerry was sick, could not go on, and that there would be no show. Needless to say Burger King near the arena ran out of food that night and only had milk and cookies available.

I was not present at the 8/9/95 Ratdog show when Bob as the leader of Ratdog, heartbroken, took to the stage in Hampton Beach, Va. to begin the journey down the road as the torchbearer of the music that has brought myself and all of us so much happiness, has so moved us, has touched on so many of the ideals and values that have come to shape and define us as we became adults.

Years ago the chatter was about bootleg live cassette tapes and which versions of which tunes were better from which shows; positive stuff. As the years have combined, unfortunately I see and hear so much energy spent with a cynical posture towards the music and the band members. It seems many have way too much time on their hands totally overanalyzing what they consider to be negative aspects of each chord or each lyric or each show. Years ago there was way more patience amongst the crowd. Bob would flub lyrics on Playin' and a huge ovation would follow as if to say "we're with you, we're on the same team."

We are extremely lucky to still have live shows and this music available. There has been commentary in the last couple of days of unprofessionalism and irresponsibility. Messages critiquing Bob, and the band for not stepping up as the designated driver and taking the keys from Bob's hands. Just curious, how many of you making such comments may have at some time or times, left a Dead show, related Dead show, or a totally unrelated event and driven the car (this time talking literally not figuatively)or allowed someone else to drive the car when there was the risk of real injury; where there was much more real irresponsibility? How many of you had on occassion showed up at work one morning after a rough night and weren't really "there" for your customer, client, coworkers or boss? So maybe you should think twice about throwing stones. What you lost out on the other night was your perception of a dollar value associated with the product you received as a consumer. Not taking the keys in real life carries a much heavier weight.

Bottom line, Jerry, Bobby, Phil, Pigpen, Mickey, Billy, Donna, Keith, Brent, well you get the picture, we are all human, we make mistakes, sometimes embarrassing ones. If Bob truly needs attention on a longer term basis, we are hoping that he pursues it or is guided properly, and that we have learned the lessons from '95. The big picture is what is important. Bob has been a guiding force and deserves all the support and love that he will no doubt be smothered with tonight.Maybe for tonight, for the first time in a while, the naysayers can remain silent, the criticism can be guarded, the tendency that often permeates our society to hit people when they are down, can be tamed.

Guys go out there tonight and kill it, we are with you, this is a time to be positive and to fulfill all your wishes. The energy you feel tonight should feel palpable as yours always has for us. Now can someone give me a heads-up as to where I can go to catch the live stream?
Go get 'em Bobby Ace, you are much loved.

Streaming?

Poor Cdurf. Never did see the light... But maybe one day.

Enjoy Furthur tonight. Could be the last with Bob in the mix.

So you think the entire summer and fall schedule is gonna get canceled Spud? Sure hope not. Especially since this was a simple mistake unless you don't take JK (and thus Bob) at his word. On another note hoping a stream turns up!! Really wanna hear this!!

oh boy this is gonna be epic! Hi Adam!
much love bro, treats to the pups.
Epic Itells ya

you know it's gonna get stranger
let's get on with the show

Let's go!

Looks like taperrob is up and running. Thanks, Rob. Thanks Furthur. (((((BOBBY))))

Looking for The Race Is On tonight.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/taperrob

Easy there Hester ( killer)! So much for peace, love, and brotherhood, you don't have to get verbally violent, with Dead quotes thrown in, punctuating confrontational rhetoric, I was only writing, not offending your entire existence!

slow Jack Straw

Any sign of Taper Rob. Searching for the sound.

Don't you all know what Jerry would say about all this talk, "C'mon Man!"

Booby sounding strong though, vocally anyway.

stream link is a few posts up

Thanks Mr. Charlie.

yeah this Jack Straw is brutally slow... :P

Nothing a good nights sleep wont cure!
Love that Jack Straw jam

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers >
Bird Song

evening everyone...looks everyone is in a good mood...didn't realize the early start! How they/bobby sounding?

This is sounding good. Just took an unusual turn for bird song, and I like it

Scott G.....well stated, one minor correction. It was Hampton Beach, NH...not VA.

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers >
Bird Song >
Cumberland Blues

phil is thumping!

GO BOBBY!!!! Just awesome!!!

Yes nice post Scott G ... but let's not forget Vince, TC and Bruce

bobby is sounding gooood!!!!!

nice energy

phil is in the zone and bobby has his rhythm back

Durf, you still don't get it man! you are offending the entire existence of all us who are 'there'! There was no confrontational rhetoric, I am only defending what this thing is all about! maybe when you are 'just writing' ~ you think about what you say and in what company you are saying it in. Folks remarked at beginning of convo how pleased they were that nobody was laying down harsh words, then you come along and blow a hole right through that. People don't want to hear that on here man. You should ask yourself about peace, love, and brotherhood. by the way its Jester

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers >
Bird Song >
Cumberland Blues
Doin' That Rag

"Sitting in Mangrove Valley chasing lightbeams
Everything wanders from baby to Z
Baby, baby, pretty, young on Tuesday
Old like a rum drinking demon at tea"

Love it!

.

everyones doin that rag!

I love it man, they're rippin' that jam in the Rag!!

Thank you Mr. Cosmic. Guess this for you

Cosmic Charley how do you do?
Truckin' in style along the avenue
Dumdeedumdee doodley doo
Go on home, your mama's calling you


Calico Kahlia come tell me the news
Calamity's waiting for a way to get to her
Rosy red and electric blue
I bought you a paddle for your paper canoe


Say you'll come back when you can
Whenever your airplane happens to land
Maybe I'll be back here too
It all depends on what's with you


Hung up waitin for a windy day
Kite on ice since the first of February
Mama Bee saying that the wind might blow
But standin here I say I just don't know


New ones comin as the old ones go
Everything's movin here but much too slowly
Little bit quicker and we might have time
to say 'how do you do?" before we're left behind


Calliope wail like a seaside zoo
The very last lately inquired about you
It's really very one or two
The first you wanted, the last I knew


I just wonder if you shouldn't feel
less concern about the deep unreal
The very first word is : How do you do?
The last: go home, your mama's callin you


Go on home
Your mama's calling you
Calling you.....

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers >
Bird Song >
Cumberland Blues
Doin' That Rag
Cosmic Charlie

Or for all those bloggers that are Doin that Rag. Always Grateful

Dancin opens second!

It has always been a favorite, thanks JS11. Mama's calling now

Looong time since I posted anything, but thought I would share my 2 cents on the above topics.
1: If you MUST carry on a conversation, cell or personal, take it to the mezzanine so I can enjoy listening, please! I don't need or want to know about your business or drama.
2: Bobby gets a total pass on the other night. Look at what he has given us for over forty years. One incident and some clueless people want to come down hard on him. If you have not had any incident in your life that didn't disappoint someone else, then you are lying to yourself.
3: If all you want to do is bitch about ticket prices, lackluster shows, (which are VERY rare), and such, please stay home. you ruin the vibe for those of us that show up with no expectations of what will be played or how it will be played. That is one of the great joys of seeing this band, never knowing what will happen next.
Peace to all and enjoy the rest of the show/tour

Broadwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers >
Bird Song >
Cumberland Blues
Doin' That Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

that ending seemed odd to me. Cosmic Charlie and Midnight Hour lost a lot of steam compared to the start of the set.

nice Kev!

Right on!!!

"It's a rainbow full of sound, It's fireworks, calliopes and clowns"

What the (*& is going on here and what did Bobby say...

Truckin at some point in the second...maybe opener.

Thats Bobby hollywood style!!

It wasn't Bob it was Phil which doesn't happen often.

Great first set and good form from Bobby Ace. Too late to stay up for Set 2 here in England but looking forward to hearing TRob's stream in the morning.

Midnight hour not a fav at all but heck im thrilled with how well everyone is doing and if the first five/six songs are any indication of whats coming in the second then bring it on! all in all a very very pleasing comeback. way to go bob and phil is on for sure...way to go boys!

Short first set?

Jester, point taken! See ya summer '13!!

Was just worried about bob.

well I just made the last tune but sounded good to me ! I can't imagine why after one rough night ,fair weather friends turn , who said this may be the last time Bobby could be in the mix ? that may be the lamest thing I've heard yet ... wake up you negative knuckleheads I left the live chat the other night because so much bashing pissed me off royally I hope this side is not going to be the same < keep it light , and , a keep on Truckin'

Right on CDurf, it's all good brother!

We're all worried about Bob...Some very tight and smokin moments in the first set...However, seemed they were a little tentative ... there were times I couldn't hear any guitars and times JK rocked...and the set seemed a tad short...HOPE Bobby doesn't grab something in between sets to add more sparkle to the night...

the race is on is only played the show before the kentucky derby

wide open second set I think...in and out of viola two or three times?

The Race is on was played MSG 9/20/93.

Bucket to open the second

They should do Race tonight as a nod to George Jones, who died yesterday.

I've been in that venue before, it's not one of my favorite places ~ the sound gets lost in there from time to time! look for nice 2nd set!

Thanks Taper Rob - Sounds Great - wish I was there with you guys chilling, dancing and frying in the taper zone. Nice to hear bobby up and strong, drinking by the fire and listening in, thanks so much and kudos for the boys on stage delivering the kind for all to enjoy while weir on the bus - see you soon - Enjoy the nite - Peace N Roses - Jeremy TaperFreakBookDude

PS - Stevey TTTTTTTTTTTTT - Hello

Soo jealous of all you guys that made it up there.

BOLO for an Estimated. Don't worry bout me. Nah nah.

Tell me what this is please???smokey here

Psyched for 2nd Set - Crown Royal pouring heavy and adding logs to the fire - Any chance of some pictures, weir be all the freaky people, who make the beauty of the world and a shot of that big old tiled dome vaulted box of a room, good times tonight for sure on the boardwalk - Peace and rocking out 2nd set one mo saturday nite

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon

Sound on stream reminds me of the big red barn in Ithaca

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon
Saint Stephen

who thinks there should be a > between mtns of the moon and Stephen?

man they play a lot that almost eleven ham during stephen

Jerrimike...I thought there should be but not 100%..just didn't hear the pause but i was spacing out a little by that point.

one vote to none...you win Russell

Classy move for the band to not make this about Bob and make a "Bob show". A small gesture, but an admirable one.

BOBBY!

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon>
Saint Stephen>
Dark Star>
Let it Grow

Bobby sounding STRONG! Welcome BACK BOBBY!

So far Bob sounds good, both on guitar and vocally. Let it Grow is sounding very nice! Hopefully the other night was a miniscule blip on the radar and will be forgotten soon!

Haven't we ALL had at least 1 or 2 of those ourselves? Time to move FURTHUR!

Hey Tom Banjo,
St. Stephen will remain so
Shall we go ... You and I while we can?
Let it flow, let it grow...rise and fall
Rise and fall. Listen to the thunder shout
"I am .... I am!" So it goes
Since the world began

Yeah...... Band sounds just fine.

rise and fall....rise and fall

dark & mean like his critics!

funny...reading posts under the discussion board with peeps who have made thousands of posts on this site...they are about the same age as me...and they can't get past the fact it isn't 1972 anymore...they can't help themselves...they have to compare what they want to hear versus what they do hear and appreciating it. Never accepted the band evolved with ebb and flow, different playing and sounds as the years passed...they don't say that...but its clear and why I stick to this thread. Way more postive

one of the greatest gifts the Grateful Dead have given me over all the years since I first saw them in '69, was TO LIVE IN THE NOW!!! Cherish what IS, not WAS! Take this gift and LIVE & ENJOY!

Days Between. Always makes me think of Jerry.

Exactly as Jerrimike says. Sort of like Let it grow. The music grows, the band grows, evolves and even changes, but the point is still the same. to go Furthur. To keep pushing. Musically, personally and as a community. If the music didn't change with the times we would be stuck with the same old thing. what fun would that be?

Listening to Days Between down here in Sydney........many thanks taperrob. Like (most)people here, I was so sad to see the vid from the other night and well pissed off to read some of the comments on here.
Glad to hear Bobby back on course tonight,stay well mate.
Cheers from Oz
Phil :>)

.. and tuning in from Bangkok,,, sounds great !!!

The energy they can build in a set when they are on is killer. turn it up!

Nice!
didnt see that coming

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon>
Saint Stephen>
Dark Star>
Let it Grow>
The Days Between>
Dark Star>
Help on the Way

uh oh...stream down

Anyone else lose the stream?

Not good, not now. Damn

yeah..

Wah

yup

Might be back, YES!!!

I lost the stream

it's back

back!
in time for slipknot!

It's back ...

niiice...

How many of you smiled when the slipknot fell into Franklin's?

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon>
Saint Stephen>
Dark Star>
Let it Grow>
The Days Between>
Dark Star>
Help on the Way>
Slipknot>
Franklin's Tower

AWESOME!!!! Furthur is unstoppable!!!

well well well, i'm glad to hear the slipknot tonight. they left us hangin friday night at the Cap, hahaha I love em' man, it's the gift they give of unpredictability! thanks for the journies boys, looking forward to many more~!!!!

all you haters out there...hush...and listen to the music play!

Bob's like, "Take that, Bitches!"

Very chunky.

Nice 2nd set and overall show. OMSN encore?

Holy cow!!!!great..he whole band is saying take that bithces.

russell..right on!

crowd likes it...do they have time for brokedown then a touch

I wish that shit could go on all night. stream sounded incredible to me...as did the band starting toward the end of MOM.

Great show. Pleasure spending the evening with everyone. Peace until the next run.

Lost the stream again
Truckin encore perhaps?

now thats some amazing furthur!
one more saturday night i assume

now thats some amazing furthur!
one more saturday night i assume

nice!
no omsn!....sing it Bob!

what else could the encore be LOL, Good on you Bob
Phil xxxxx

ha ha ... i'm wrong again!

(((((Bobby)))))

Bobby will get by and sometimes high.

Try to keep a little grace.

Try to keep a little grace!
Grace grace, God's grace!
Grace greater than our sins!
We will survive!
Try to keep a little love
Every silver lining's got a touch of grey

Furthur brings the love. Thanks TaperRob.

fantastic run, got the chills bigtime during help-->slip-->franklins a huge thanks to taper rob for sharing the love with us see ya on summer tour

Wow!

thanks for taking it Furthur...

Thanks To Trob for the stream! Very nice set 2. No problems with Bob that I could hear. Crowd seems very amped, must have been a very warm and fuzzy feeling in there tonight, nice.

Boardwalk Hall
Atlantic City, NJ
04/27/2013

Set One

Jack Straw
Crazy Fingers>
Bird Song
Cumberland Blues
Doin' that Rag
Cosmic Charlie
Midnight Hour

Set Two

Space>
Mountains of the Moon>
Saint Stephen>
Dark Star>
Let it Grow>
The Days Between>
Dark Star>
Help on the Way>
Slipknot>
Franklin's Tower

Donor Rap

Encore

Touch of Grey

Thanks taper rob for the stream!
you rock!

Great show fun to share the music ! see you all soon . P.S. This band is fucking Awesome !

Thanks to taper Rob and CosmicC for the tunes. Appreciated. So glad Bob bounced back. The energy must have been amazing. Whew. Thank you for a real good time. Bid you all GN. Until the next time.

thanks taperrob...killer second set...vibe inside the show seemed awesome...thoroughly enjoyed that...thanks bobby-love you man...thanks phil-my God are you good! thanks to the dead for all the joy they have brought me and my family and thanks to all of my phriends...see ya'll next time

stream was sick. re-listening to first set Bobby is on it, the Bird song is thick. great LIG and Days and Touch inS2. Good rebound Ace- still bullshit on the 25th though. Should I just stay away from #9 of a 9 night run next time I look to travel to jump on the flying saucer with you guys?

After seeing 8 of the 9 nights at the Cap and couching AC, I'm beyond satisfied. This band just keeps getting better and better. Really stretching the experience Furthur and Furthur. Said it before and I'll say it again, "Jerry would love this band".
See ya'll this summer!

TR. thanks as always and good to see you again at last weekend's stretch. Time to git some well deserved rest, and kick that colds ass. See you in Brooklyn or possibly at TXR, but off to Jazzfest first. Be well, travel safe. the Dr.

bout shat my pants during that St. Stephen, Weather Report. GO BOBBY!!!!

thanx tr.

Just got back from a splendid show in AC. Everybody has their opinions and mine goes like this....

Song Selection...stellar. No throw away tunes tonight. Classic show start to finish.

Playing..everybody stepped up and rocketed off. And for the Weir blasters out there, why not consider rehabbing your dementia?

Saw a nasty security issue right at my side where it took about 8 bearish security people to drag some poor fightin fool out of the arena. Neither security or the guy they were after had any shit together whatsoever.

Crowd was pretty noisy, but mostly from the young and drunk. Only calling it as I see it. I will leave it at that and hope that people wise up and realize that this Band won't go on forever and that any opportunity to see them and listen is a gift which once squandered will be gone.

For those complainers and whiners amongst us, please realize what the band does they do for themselves first and foremost as artists. If you do not like what is going on and feel unsatisfied, please, for yourselves, find something that makes you happy. There are loads of us out there who live for the opportunity to spend some time with these people and be part of a community that respects and honors the efforts of all involved. If you can't get with the program, change the channel and find your place in this big world. Life is too short and there are enough areas where negativity pervades. Please don't shit in our house.

Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world....if ya don't like what you are lookin at look somewhere else. Pretty simple, aye?

5 and half hours to Cooperstown....who is driving?

Peace till then

Just got back from AC. Have to say, the music was unbelievable. I was never a big fan of JK, however he's really coming into his own. JK tore up the joint tonight! Seriously thought tonight had some of the best post GD music since JG passing. It was a statement show...

Too funny, Nadnerb70. How do I enroll? I want in!!!

Thanks Taperrob and Thank you Furthur for a real good time. Was hopin for maybe a little "the race is on" rip George Jones - Toady's listening will be WKCR 89.90 FM NY 10am to 12pm "The Moonshine Show" - streaming live on www. wkcr.org - No BS commercials either - Peace n Roses on a Sunday

A fine performance last night, and for those who did not see it, a touching close; after "Touch," Phil walked over to hug Bob, apparently spontaneously, and then the other band members did as well. And while they were at it, they all had to walk around the stage hugging each other, then the group bow.

Yes, way too much crowd noise, and why one goes to the trouble of going to the show and then having a conversation during it remains a mystery, but we are used to that. Not used to the negative and nonsensical posts here and on YouTube regarding Thursday, or comprehending why anyone would bother, but this life is full of the unexplained, some pleasant, some not.

Did not attend but listened to the stream. About three songs in, I started to get a really strong image of Garcia in my head. Then I was just sensing that spirit of the Grateful Dead as they dug into the core catalog. When I saw that Bob and Phil were both wearing black, it confirmed in my mind that this was a call to the muse and an homage to Jerry. Perhaps the dedication of the the bar at the Capitol was tainted by Bob's inability to perform and they wanted to produce a more appropriate realization of their collective musical vision. It seems the muse descended and all was well. It sounded beautiful to me. And the picture of Phil and Bobby at the end of the show tells it all -

"Without love in the dream, it will never come true".

i would like to thank the furthur band for the great music.
i would like thank all those who made all the arrangements to make it possible.
i would like to thank taper_rob.
i would like to thank everyone else who participated.
i am going to go out on a limb and say all the necessary slight adjustments have been made to the course and call it a success and leave it at that.
nuff said.

I was at this show last night and let me tell you ..Bobby was in FINE form..He was spot on in my opinion..and what about JK..Almost every song he shredded the guitar all the while head turned sideways and just watching and pushing Bobby to play his A game and to me he brought it..That Midnight hour vocally and musicaly reminded me of the great Midnight hours of 1985..Furtur has yet done it again..Thanks to all and especially Taper Rob..

We were there. 7th row Phil's side. What a show. Didn't see this above, a special shout out to Jeff Chimenti. He tore it up, at times he seemed to lead the transitions even more than did Phil. Everyone had their A game going. The hugs n high fives at the end said it all. Thank you Furthur.

what a great way to end this mini tour, as someone else so aptly put it. The stage seemed far away compared to PC, which was an adjustment. I thoroughly enjoyed AC and got my Stephen, to boot!!! There was some speculation (by myself and others on this board)that it was out of rotation. Sweet surprise!

Bobby did great! My final comments on the whole "Bobby falling down" topic are that, it would have been much worse if he was 25 years old, but after so long, just thank God he's alright. None of us will EVER know what really happened, but we can speculate all we want. Something happened but he's on his feat playing so it wasn't permanent.

A note that was touching, was that Phil got a HUGE crowd applause when he came out for the donor rap. We wouldn't let him speak. What a loud applause. The band was clearly pleased with themselves as well and rejoiced on stage.

Another epic show in the books. And epic for many reasons be it end of tour and last show, bobby's glorious return to stage on an even keel, or even the "we will get by" phrase in Touch of grey that seemed to speak to the entire dead seen, as well as the Super Storm Sandy ravaged victims that are still getting their lives back together. In either case, "We will survive."

Later,

CF

this is one thing the govt. ought to do, but the govts. head is so far up its ass it won't.
so if i was a billionaire and was willing to spend and from the northeast or anywhere for that matter and really wanted to fuck with the govt. and those southern white douchbags,and really subvert those fuckin asswipes, i would give the black communities money for jobs to rebuild there communities. you only spend what the larger local community can do over say 5 years. no large national companies plus probably other important details. the devil is always in the details.
better housing, better education, better opurtunities, etc. thats it, i guarentee if done honestly and with the local communities involvement and no penny pinching,
it would not only help the particular local community, it would set an example of whats possible with money and resources and opurtunities. it would take people, time, money, but its still would help people.
it would also lead to other unknowns and that is one thing the govt. don't like, unknowns.

that is the frontal attack. rebuild america one local community at a time with locals doing most of the work if possible overseen by someone that cares.
then out of nowhere comes the sneak attack. the no nukes mass occupation of america. basically people occupy wash. and a few other major cities and don't go anywhere until an agreement is made to (not sure of exact details)but something like work toward a nuke free world with immediate lowering of weapons count. lets say an agreement is made and the govt. reneges, then we continue the mass occupation once a year, shut as much down as possible, fuck em.

the harsh part is you gotta get the fuckin democrats and the fuckin unions, and the fuckin catholics and im sure there other fuckers on board. the catholics will eat this shit up. they stand outside these abortion clinics forever. you don't think they will get on board this shit.
the democrats are basically stupid shit followers.
who the fuck knows anything about the unions, but they are democrats.

there's the plan. just in case its needed. hopefully the govt and private citizens will step up and do there part and i can get back to minding my own fucking business. i am never coming up with another fucking plan again.

how u might ask did the plan come about
honestly i don't know
but i am about 99 percent sure it did not happen overnite.

the primary problem was never a matter of trust.
i just never had it. my solution really came about a month ago. i was hand building my second tube amp. i am lucking i didn't get bit by the b+. i was fortunate to have someone show me how to safely test for the b+ so as not to get hurt a few months before on my first build. anyway, building the amp showed me that i have to respect science, since the b+ can really hurt u. that was the part that was missing, i had no respect for science. once i was able to balance the art and the science, viola.
i recommend none of what i have done to anyone.

i would probably just prefer this whole little plan be passed off as a lark, brushed aside, put in a closet, forgotten about, and go about other important more worldly day to day business.

some of you might be thinking we waited all this time for this shit.

would it be too much too ask for no one too take any offence at what i believe i have a constitutional right to say, thank you very much.
speech is a protected right in the united states of america.

believe it or not
i do not consider writing my strong suit, but since i do know how to write a bit i figured i would give a written synopis. this synoptic has been filtered and colored through so many lenses i have not a clue of the accuracy. i would say oil painting and music would be more accurate or a better overall picture. but having said that the written word does have a certain allure as well. personally i have no idea what reality is, but even though i have no idea what reality is, i sort of feel art can be a representation of it.

goodnite

no. 9
n0. 9
nQ. 9

tank needs help

The odd trail off to end this thread and this tour is fitting. But u just can't let it end this way. This was fun and the band did everything I expect a Dead band to do. Nothing overly exceeded my expectations and nothing fell short except that I would have preferred something more upbeat in the 'days between' slot. Very enjoyable Dark Star as well as help>slip>franklins. I was pleased with this show at every level however the venue had looooong lines for beers and bathrooms. Not set up very well for intermission. Sound was solid and Bob I was straight back and couldn't see too well. After Capitol shows this venue felt huge. It's an ice rink right on the beach. I love the venue really. But they need to organize vending and lavs better. The crowd was into it and I could tell some had not seen in show in a while and not yet in this tour which was cool. Big crowd. Thanks Furthur and thanks Phil!! Keep bob in line- ha! Cheers! My pick fir best song of my 4 shows- Duprees!
The show was my last until summer in Brooklyn.

Lay down my dear brothers lay down and take your rest.....

here's where i try to clear up any confusion.
here's where i backtrack and take back a lot of what i have said.
at best i am a gentelmen's c. i don't know how seriously what i say should be taken. i really am not qualified.
i gave up perfectionism along time ago. i make many mistakes everyday. when i built this amp i keep refering to i made many mistakes. it was physically and mentally one of the most challenging, yet also very rewarding things i've done, just building an amp and making mistakes and learning a thing or 2.
when i paint on a canvas, i made and continue to make tons of mistakes, yet i have found with art good is good enough sometimes.
i don't hate anyone. i like people. i like to see people do well and be happy.
i don't hate republicans or people who work for large corps. or wealthy people who don't share.
most everyone likes money or at least spending it.

if you clean up a couple salty words i used, everything i say is very mainstream.
i have ancestors who fought in the civil war for the south.
demands
citizens united overturned
all money out of politics
this is a start.
use the threat of organized mass protests to shutdown the govt. to get them to budge.
i do not want to see another presidential cycle and a do nothing congress like the one we just experienced and continue to experience.

and these protests would not be to get our way, but to be heard. the govt. for some reason either does not hear or is ignoring us. all we want is the corruption out and more careful consideration of important issues without being influenced by outsiders or outside money. we are not asking for much.

the part about rebuilding america one community at a time should really start with the urban communities with the help of the locals and the working class and the middle class and the upper classes doing there part.

even though what i propose is probably legal and must be peaceful, anytime you go up against a massively corrupt govt. with massive amounts of weapons, there is bound to be a bit of a grey area.
which is why it is important to be organized and include as large a segment of society as possible.
it should probably be done in the open - even going so far as to keep the govt. abreast of what is going on.
it has to be taken seriously, it cannot be a party atmosphere. they have to know we are not kidding.
it will have to include all ages. this is not the young peoples responsibilty although they will play a big part but will have to include lots of middle ages and older people as well to balance everything. if not done correctly things could easily go wrong. must be organized, can't be a slow start, or a half measure start, must have a good start.
i don't know about anyone else, but this would be a terrible inconvience for me and i'm sure everyone else that decides to get on board. that's what the govt. always has on its side, the inconvience, the apathy, not being organized, people getting out of line. this is simple stuff, limit the agenda too a couple issues, reach out to other national groups to see if they would be on board. i don't think there's been a good old fashion protest in a long time, so a good protest may actually be just what the doctor orders, regardless of the outcome. might just be good to exercise a little liberty.

And now, back to Further show reviews only -
The key word I walked away with was 'Redemption'. Bobby, the band, the fans, everyone and everything was redeemed Saturday night. My faith in the band was redeemed, the music was redeemed, what a fantastic thing to be part of. The music was as good, if not better, than anyone had any right to expect. The band was happy, the crowd was great. The heartfelt cheers of the crowd at the end of the show said it all. Walking out onto the boardwalk and seeing that bright moon in the sky reminded me Jerry was watching. I think he approved. Saturday night we all came Further.

is doing nothing an option
hmmmm

i don't want to see anyone get hurt
i don't want to get hurt


doing nothing is always an option, but there are probably better options that if done right no one would have to get hurt

this would probably have to been done at least a year out, but before the next pres. election.
get a few smart 20 somethings to run the internet youths on social network sites and slowly get them in line.
get the mainstream organizations to run the grass roots efforts.

thanks for your patience.
i think i am done now.
just wanted to get this out there.

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please be the last post.
as u may recall i mentioned earlier that a new game had started with a new deal. this game is an honest game. i know the cards i'm holding and i can see the cards the govt. is holding, so i feel there is a good chance the govt. will fold and see the errors of their ways. people are watching

let it marinate a few days
i need a minimum of 2 days of recovery, maybe more.
peace out

WTF ??????????????????????

I second that, never seen anything quite like that......wonder if he liked the show?

Tanko,

Do you fancy yourself a writer or a poet? If so, you may want to pursue other career choices, orthe nearest mental hospital. I find your manic lame dribble to be incoherent, oblique, uninventive, and boring. Truly awful writing my friend. Pease discontinue your posts. And is your monopolization of the posting area supposd to be a random art form or something? Looks more like litter.

i thought we were already 2 years into obama's second term. it turns out we are only a couple months into it. everything can be put on hold for at least another year. i would say 2015, maybe.
it occurred to me its possible i may have offended someone, so if the admin. could delete all my posts that would be great.
hank no.9

all i'm saying is if the current political situation in america continues and we wind up in 2 years with the same kind of campaign we just went through. we should organize a massive peaceful occupation until we get money out of politics, before the next presidential election. hopefully none of this will be necessary.

that's it. move on. nothing more to see here.
don't read anymore into it.
have a good day.

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is 700 bucks in free concert tickets the going rate for a vision
i feel used

i believe the anger in my posts is a resentment i never dealt with concerning the govt. if i had any resentments toward the grateful dead or furthur most of these were dealt with years ago, during a long period of recovery. the anger in these posts, i am 99% sure is not directed at further/dead. since i know no more or less with what happened than anyone else i dont know why it is there.
a better version might be one without all the swear words and even then, i don't know.
this was an unfiltered version- the bad and the good. believe it or leave it
its a bit heavy, but everything is cool in my book.
as far as i'm concerned a vision is a good thing.

its possible this was not my first vision. i may of had one when i was about 17/18/19 years old. at that time i had no way of expressing it. so while all i wanted to do was express it, i did not have the verbal or written way to express it. i was kind of like a babbling idiot for years, not all the time of course. now after this vision, i feel a weight has finally been lifted, i never understood what this weight was. this is a happy day.

Can the administrator please TAKE OUT THE TRASH?

I went to bed thinking it was gone and done with. Tank, I truly feel bad for you as you are a person with some serious issues. I hope it can be resolved. I also hope it is not the result of bad drugs, too many drugs, or????? Seek help my friend. Plus, also recognize that you have dominated a review posting site and not your private playground or editorial page. Respect others, please.

Can we please take away Tankos log in rights....

Tankos needs his mommy and daddy

ahh, leave the kid alone. Makes what I (and half you other wackos out there)who post here seem almost normal.

In one of his posts the dear brother says "hopefully the govt and private citizens will step up and do there part and i can get back to minding my own fucking business.".

Well shall we(as private citizens and members of this government by the people) lovingly say to him that we are on it, so you may go on minding your own fucking business? Apparently he does not want to be part of the solution, just wants everyone to fall into his dream without doing the work. We will get back to him when he returns from school, as his childish ideas and lack of language skill attest to the fact that next year grade 5 will treat him better?

Oh Stu, that ain't nice...

i brought my son to this show instead of the capital show and I am glad for me it was the best of the run

great time in AC great show to end the run

I have no idea why Tank is posting on a concert review site. But amongst all the verbal wanderings are some good ideas. Some not so good ones also. Seems like he (I'm assumming he, hell, maybe Tank is a woman for all I know) needed to express himself, so I'm glad he was able to do that. If we all lived in a more repressive country the authorities may well have been knocking on Tanks door this morning. The U.S.A. has plenty of serious problems that must be fixed. At least we still have freedom of speech, more or less.

monsanto is a piece of shit company.
they are messing with our food supply and farmers.
the only way they could do what they have been doing is to pay off justices and congressman.
the money should be followed and anyone involved should be thrown out of the govt. for being incredible stupid.
anyone in the govt. who supports more nukes should be thrown out of govt. for being incredible stupid.
anyone in govt. who doesn't believe in global warming should be thrown out for being incredible stupid.
no high speed rail for california.
all rail money should be spent rebuilding california's communities, starting with the urban areas and working poor and middle class.
california should stop being so fucking punitive with all the fees and shit, and help people get the skills they need to open a small business if they choose.
tax the oil companies. if they don't like it they should get out of california.
pension reform.
if done right, america's glory days are not behind us, but in front of us.

i shouldn't probably call anyone incredible stupid.
i just feel mistakes have been made by allowing corporations and lobbies to basically corrupt our govt and i just wanted to point this out. i feel they will see the errors of their ways on there own, the errors are not hard to see.
put the people first.
the people can't wait while washington sifts through all the bullshit that has been dumped on america. the republicans should take the lead and release funds immediately to the states to address the conditions of housing, and opportunities, etc for the urban areas as well as the working and middle classes who have been squeezed as well as money for small businesses.
money should be spread out and not siphoned off by local officials or dirty companies who have bribed officials for contracts and only seem to help themselves and very few actual people.

i may have kicked up a bit of dust.
i have to wait until it clears a bit before my next move, over and out

this is a gift
a gift with rough edges, so be careful
but a gift
and a good thing.

i have laid the groundwork for my cover story.
my cover story is the artists story.
now all i have to do is transition into that story.
an artist can get away with certain things other people may have a harder time dealing with.
with all the other things going on the world today, people have more important things to do than worry about this. this is my business and we will work it out together.
be happy.

all i did was smoke some legal california mmj,
and i must have had a reaction. i have no recollection of anything. i'm an artist. all i do is paint funny pictures. i think it will play.

i have a sense of humor always and also about this.
this was a pipe dream and as such most of it should not be taken to seriously. i don't even think it should be acted upon. the govt should clean up the mess it has made, but people should also be responsible and keep and eye on them. just in case someone takes this too seriously. people should as a general rule mind there own business and not worry about what others are doing, except in this case i broke the rule, since i guess i thought it needed to be said. thats why i like painting, since it is one thing that allows me to mind my own business. everybodys different though, and it takes a village of all sorts kind of people with all sorts of interests to form larger communities. people should be living there lives, not worrying about the fuckin govt. which is why i think they ought to clean up there act a bit and let people mind there own business and create some opportunities for themselves and others.

Tank, yes you have exercised your freedom of speech, and as Michael said, at least we still have that. However, you have made about 33 posts (last count) or so and you have exercised your rights in a forum that probably is not the right spot. Had you taken two posts to briefly outline how to improve the country and maybe at least one about the music then it might have taken on some credibility. However you have rambled all over the map. I suggest you learn how to write and clearly state your beliefs and thoughts, then take it to the right forum. In your last "rant" "this was a pipe dream and as such most of it should not be taken seriously". Really dude? You go on for 32 posts then come to this. Please STOP, get some help, learn how to write and effectively gather your thoughts.

almost done.
i decided to quit my job and paint about 2 years ago and i wound up on food stamps. now i will try to get back to the middle class values i grew up with. i want to get back to my bong and middle class life. once i figure out what the goldmine needs to get up and running, the goldmine will be open for business.

if i told you all that went down it would burn off both your ears.

Tanko,

I know I have chastised you in the past, but seriously, do as you may its a free country.

You seem to want to talk politics. When I was a student at Humboldt State University in Arcata, CA back in 1992 there were many radical views and we all came down on special interests, lobbies, the government etc... But now, I need more than rhetoric to take arguments and points seriously. You make some broad sweeping statements that I m sure are valid, but they would have more impact if you documented your claims. It's hard to take it seriously if you don't. Substantiate your claims with references. Thats what all good writers, essaists, and researchers do. This is my last comment on this thread. See ya around everyone.

things are getting clearer. i see now i was wrong about a lot of things.
the first part i think has past.
now things are getting more personal and i don't think they are appropriate on a public forum.
i don't know the full story and i don't think it is done yet, but basically it includes things like Love and Failed Returns and Heroes.
Bob and Phil and Furthur are my Heroes.

all i know is i hitched a ride, possible unauthorized. this story is over for now. i cannot continue to post without the express written permission of others.

thanks crazy, you saved me one more post.

Hey tank09...put the pipe down and walk away.

i guess everybody has a different definition of good clean fun.
btw the way, the posts were brought to you by the good folks at:

fugovtcrooks@altcommdevices.ipartiallyhatethefuckininternet.

Tankos you are an ass get a life. It's hardly worth logging in just to post this.

But since you do read these ( I haven't read a thing you've posted) take some advice; go home go to bed and work on being productive the next day.

I'm tired if your dumb posts as its affecting the energy of this board.

*conversation*

hey man, i was listening to some good tunes on the philzone site the other day and then after the shows i shared a vision about it.

"you shared a vision on a website"

yeah.

"there's no way that can be appropriate"

what do you mean. i thought the internet was the new technology of the future. you mean this doesn't happen all the time.

"you're crazy"

well now i'm starting to feel a bit weird about it

but since this weight has been lifted and this has helped, at least myself, i am not too concerned right now whether it was appropriate or not.

but for next time, even though i know you don't like to give advice, what advice would you give to someone like myself or anyone for that matter, who does not want to make a mistake when about to do something important.

"think before you act"

i don't like to keep any stone unturned so i came up with an alternative theory.

this was some 1950's stanford mind experiment that went really well, imo of course.

you have just been mind fucked

or skull fucked

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help on the way

whoa ! it's the weird subculture of review thread posters ~

who knew?!?!

and apparently assholes abound *all ovah* the PZ

repost from other stuff ~

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guess it's ironic when words cannot adequtely express something but you wanna share with the world

when technology is finally such that stream of consciousness can be captured, I will be golden as many fabulous review ideas/snippets have been flowing thru my head since sunday.

the #1 gratitude I wish to express is the great good comapny I had the pleasure to keep ~ beginning with Daughta2K & Friend ~ such a super great surprise, and she and her girl C are inspirations, as young women of this generation are so strong and honest and real. Wow what a blessing to have a nice reconnection with the kiddo of an outrageously wise funny and talented woman who I miss oh so much ~ Mootha !!!

also had a super close room for a super good deal with another good zoner pal which was likewise the cat's meow (:

also got to hug our Rosnata which is always, always a pleasure. I am so super glad he & DS got the tic hookup they needed. Zoner friendships are a miraculous thing and warm my heart all the time

most fun 3D first time meeting 100% goes to our Mistress Merri !!! honestly nothing like i expected ~ a much more glowy gorgeous angelic, wicked woman than I anticipated beautiful inside & out, and had fun fun fun except I agree that hippy boy shoulda been ditched much sooner for mo better girly time post show beach fun lololol

the show~

theshowtheshowtheshow

ya know that is the bottom line as to why I am ever there. well, seeing Beloved Peeps & doing my Red Gypsy thang too (;

so I had a lil anxiety with 7pm start about when they would actually begin... plus my tic was not floor but I wanted to be down there & didn't know what to expect. what I didn't realize until later was that Boston impacted the "backpack" rule, and, altho I was hassled on the way in, mildly, ("the next people will take that from you") I got in everything I wanted & needed, including not one but two waters lolol. and the place was never any less of a free for all from there on out !

basically, I entered sec 106 where I had an actual tic, then proceeded to saunter down the stairs and into the floor the moment the music started. It would surprise me to hear anyone had issues of any kind there. this place ROCKED ! even tipped my personal guard at the end with a phatty he so well deserved & I hope well enjoyed~

found my dear 710 and we hung thru the show at various points, and I am pretty certain there was one or 2 zoners that crossed my path, but am uncertain as to who maybe there were none and I was fully shunned lol. Oh yea I did spot a zone couple later & def let them be lolol

oh, I got a Sylvia & Tiff hug, which was lovely

annnyhoo, as I always say, you see who you are meant to ~

and that was how it was. non zone~wise, (gasp lol) ran into some locals from Philly & was blown away by some of the Love I was shown, kinda randomly..

the LOVE was truly the theme bottom line and meaning of this night ~

Phil Steered the Ship Drove the Train Thundered His way through the Show ~ Bobby was flawless and humble yet prankstery powerful, showing Us he is, indeed, stronger than dirt, & one crash ain't gonna make him burn

it was really uplifting, fun, vibrant, energetic, swirly, balletic, majestic, rippin' and gentle all at once and at various points in the night

Doin that Rag

DS>LetitGrow>DS

I don't even know what else but it all felt perfect in it's context, meaning & execution and, I for one, was 100% thoroughly pleased and satisfied. it was truly one of those shows where the RAUNCH and Power & the Glory and mad alchemistic genius is flowing from and through the musicians, and US and the venue and the Universe. at least it was for me

and, the real life truth is, for the past few weeks my life has been at one of it's darkest points. this past weekend could have gone very differently, and the messages I got, both of the cosmic, up for interpretation type, as well as real peeps speaking actual words to me

"the world is a better place with you in it"

and always, doing readings is such a powerful, powerful thing to do, such a gift I so passionately love to share with and use to help guide people…

all that brought me back to the reality of who I am and that I matter.

And the Mountains of the Moon didn’t hurt !!!

you never know what impact your words will have on another person.

thank you from the deepest part of my heart & soul, Raquel (& parking lot guy!)

I love me

I love Phil

I love BOBBY

I love Us

I love Life.

into slipknot

**break**
i have to take a previously scheduled 24hr break.
to be continued sometime friday. just a couple more drops left, probably spread out over a couple days. thanks for the kind words.
**break**

Thought Atlantic City was the best Furthur show i've seen since they've gotten together, and one of my favorite post-Jerry shows period(which is a bold statement, I know). It just hit me that way, the band played ona superior level, the song selection blew me away. JK was great, best I've heard him, Jeff Chimenti was unbelievable, Phil was loud and proud, Russo was totally all over it, and Bob was..well..just exactly perfect. His playing supported JK and Phil beautifully all night, and he was really locked in with Russo at a couple points that just made the music so tight. Right up there with the best post-Garcia I've attended like Phil 7/21/01, TOO 7/25/98, 8/4/02, ratDog 3/27/04, 11/3/07 etc. Real quality performance!

Tankos the fact you are at shows is actually scary. I just hope I'm not there when you are. Your behavior on this board is actually a form of stalking. It's to be condemned and I wish the system administrator would wake his but up and shut down your privileges.

Please give warning if which shows you attend so I can avoid you. Your behavior is seriously clinically sick. And I happen to know a thing or two about psychology.

**please keep in mind that i do love bob and phil and the grateful dead extended family.**

i have decided to share a deep and dark secret i have been holding onto that i have never shared with anyone. i feel sharing this is the only thing i can do, to be free of this dark secret.

**please keep in mind i have always done my own thing**
**please keep in mind i think i have succeeded in what i am about to share.**
**please keep in mind i never really know what's going on when it comes to the grateful dead so i could be totally wrong**
**please keep in mind these posts have a few different levels to them and this dark secret only pertains to one level. this is a not to be taken too seriously level. this pertains to why i had all those hahahaahhahaha's a few posts up**
**please keep in mind i think old wounds have healed enough to safely reveal this secret.**

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into franklins tower

give it a good:


ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring

happy 44th birthday to me.
to has to be the best present i could ever ask for.

yes, by one of many coincidence this past couple of weeks, it really is my birthday.

if i can help myself, i will never do this again.

i will have to read up on it,and even then, i am pretty sure it is not mine, but yours now.

to do with as you wish. i have let it go.

i am pretty sure this is just tip of the iceberg stuff.

i am pretty sure this is just tip of the iceberg stuff. how this turned out was actually totally unplanned on my part. give it a couple more days to finish and see how it feels in the end.

this will end sunday for sure.
i would seriously consider banning all users from the site or this thread except tank09 until monday.
i would not do anything for a year.
i will get in touch with you or you get in touch with me.

i would save all the posts and put them in order, it may or may not be important. after monday i would delete all my posts. if you cannot ban all the other users, keep the site open and just delete my newer posts after they are copied.

i have a sense of humor, but there are a couple of different levels to this and some of them are serious. again, i do not consider these mine anymore and i have no control over what is done with them. knowing what i know, i am just trying to be helpful.

did you delete one post. that whole p***k thing is over in my book. i am sorry i acted the way i did. its not possible for anyone to understand these posts in this short of time and things are not as they always appear. that post is actually the most important post for this to possible be useful to anyone but me, i think.

zzzzzzzz

i will give you a hint. any post with a lot of swear words is probably only meant for more dedicated eyes and not for public viewers with weak stomachs. nothing i say is original, it is all cobbled together from other sources. while the way i said it is actually original, as far as i know. again i am only a 70% student and i may have made mistakes, this is not a science, but i did try to follow some kind of rules. as far as i am concerned it is already working and will continue to work as long as people take it serious.

might have made a mistake. i do not think copies are really needed. actually, do not listen to my most of my advice.

agh, my control issues. clearly i'm almost down.
apparently, i still have some of my control issues even though i'm almost sure i'm better than before.

encore

terrapin station suite

soon you will not hear his voice

***take a moment to point out a couple things. these are sketches and based on real events and i'm sure others can come up with there own examples. to me these things seem wrong, but i can't be 100% sure about it.
a)a single mother with one kid living in a single room makes $1200 a month and is also on food stamps.
she gets a motor vehicle red light ticket for $500.
how can this added stress not adversely affect her and her dreams. traffic tickets should not be so punitive imo and not be used to raise more money for local and state coffers.
b)local officials in irvine, ca decide to build a great park. they have spent close to a billion dollars over 10 years and as of now they have actually only spent 20 million dollars actually building the park. nobody is in jail over this, and i am not saying they should be in jail, but they shold be kicked out of offices they hold and not be trusted with public funds.
c)california is in a pension crises. no details on this. abuses should be stopped right away.
d)judges and congressman local and federal. it is clear most of them are allowing themselves to be corrupted by corrupters(lobbyist,wealthy individuals,large corporations,etc). imo, people are born with everything they need to know and should not allow others to pay them off to make bad decisions that always seem to adversely affect the public good and have other adverse consequences as well.***

***los angeles,ca has two 100,100 capacity stadiums within 10 miles of each other and now there are discussions to build another one right between these two. what, is los angeles planning, feeding the christians to the lions again. and why is usc a private college practically being given a public stadium for free. what are they teaching the students at these colleges.***

***everyone needs room to grow. there has been so much bullshit spread, especially the last 10 years or so nothing has room to grow. lets stop shoveling the bullshit and get on with actually growing something worthwhile. these corrupt govt. officials should also be given some room to grow a backbone and say no to all money from outside sources for a start, knowing that the eyes of the world are now watching, and are ready to act if the need arises.***

at this point, i'm assuming i have some control over this and can stop at any time. my plan is to stop tomorrow, so i can transition into something else, fuckin a.

if i had more time to think about it, i suppose i could have hopped on a plane to washington and told them my story, but i just couldn't be certain they would take it well and not just ship me off to Guantanamo Bay.

i suppose i could have told the catholic church, but again i wasn't sure how they would take it and didn't want to mistakenly be burned at the stake, with an apology after the fact.

whether it was trust or a gamble, i figured i could share it on philzone, while ruffling as few feathers as possible.

**afternoon break**

it might have been better to say unsympathetic feathers.

i mentioned i make mistakes, nothing ought to be taken as a personal attack against any individual.

a lot of what is say is based on the idea that we are all connected. typically u hear people pray for peace or that they want peace. well what exactly is peace. i haven't seen much peace lately, although i did start to feel something akin to peace, but its been so long, i forgot what peace fells like. so everything is connected, all action has a reaction. if a group of people share a common, more precise vision of what peace might look like, the larger community has no choice but to change as well. if one person changes, this always effects others as well. so if one group of people change, this will effect the larger group as well.


my point is i think there needs to be a more concrete and precise vision. i believe most of this vision is already shared to a certain degree, but thought i would offer it up as a blueprint, that can be tweaked to whatever people feel or think is best for them and there circumstances.

no one is required to go along with this. this is totally by choice. at worst it might require a slight change in thinking.

hope this clears everything up.

at least to my way of thinking, i don't think there's any reason this would be classified as "holy", per se.

i just used some reason,logic,ethics, and morals
and told a story and had a good bit of fun doing it,
because i smoked some good weed. you decide.

no, i thought decision making processes take a long time.

okay, then it's going to be played out

remember i mentioned i am a 70% student. i used an educated guess on the last one. the good news is they both end in a happy ending

one is guaranteed the other is not

come to think of it, i probably used totally the wrong words in the previous post to describe it.
i just think trying to do something is the right way to go, but i also think you have to have a good plan.

they say a picture speaks a thousand words. i tried to upload a photo, but u see i run a unix based computer with the debian os. the thing is i barely know how to run it. i have actually done some downloads with, but i find them incredible difficult to figure out and they can take days for me to figure out. so i went to my local library where they run window os and tried to do it there. fucking turns out they disable the right click button on the computers, and i just didn't have the fucking time to try to figure it out. even then i still don't think i could figure it out.

why might u ask i am running a unix based machine i barely know how to use.

because its more secure

of course that's not the real reason i use a unix based computer. but the real reason is kind of personal and i am not sure u would understand.

okay, i'll share it with u then. i have been through so many fucking computers in the last 10 years, there was no way i was going to buy another one. this was the only one i could get for free.

i think i have a lot of good ideas. most of them seem to be in that gray area between the mainstream and the alternative.

sssss

i don't know why i have been so talkative the last couple days. maybe its because my food stamps have run out for this month and my food intake has been a bit off this last week or so. but that's okay, my stamps come in monday may 6, 2013 and then i can go back to eating again.

i hate asking for money

one of the reasons i have enjoyed oil painting so much the past couple of years is that it has help tremendously with slowing down and focusing my thoughts. i had no idea this much. honestly, i didn't know i had it in me. believe me when i say that none of this was planned. i just went with it.

2nd encore

biko-peter gabriel

the man is dead

the eyes of the world are watching

its really just a blend of things. there is nothing pure about it.

i honestly feel this has been a worthwhile excursion, with very little downside.

**for the most part i am using words like excursion after i look them up on google to find out what exactly is the meaning of a word like excursion. i have done this on a number of words in this story.
i don't know whether this helps**

i'm sorry, i lied. i thought i could take that liberty since i am telling a story, but now i am not so sure, so better safe than sorry. i do not get my stamps till may 8, 2013, but i wanted this to be over sunday, so i lied.

what i want to know here is if there is anything going on except entertainment.

even though i admitted to lying there, that does not make the other parts true.

3rd encore

it's all over now, baby blue

take what you have gathered from coincidence


these post are dedicated to all the men, women, and children still with us and to the memories of all the men, women, and children no longer among us.


THE END

thank you for keeping the noise to a minimum during the performance. now that it is over you may:

clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap

clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap

clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap

believe me you when i say there are things i would definitely not share on the internet, people could really get the wrong idea.

gratefully

it seemed like something was missing. it seems like i should show more gratitude. i think i am grateful or will soon be, but the past 3 weeks have been a bit rough with the pre show stuff, the shows, and then the aftermath here.

am i talking to myself here, is any of this starting to click.

i never really believed it before, but i guess the pen really is mightier than the sword.

i'm not so sure it was just blowin in the wind, it definitely seem to require some work on my part.

parking lot scene after the aftermath

lido shuffle- boz scaggs


all out of love - air supply
what are you thinking of
what are you thinking of

rosanna- toto

macarthur's park- richard harris
someone left the cake out in the rain
i don't think that i can take it
since it took so long to bake it
and i will never have that recipe again, oh no

come on eileen- dexy's midnight runner's

holiday- madonna
holiday, it would be so nice

fall on me - rem
buy the sky and sell the sky

bad -u2

give me one reason - tracy chapman

dirty work- steely dan
i'm a fool to do your dirty work
i don't want to do your dirty work, no more

angel from montgomery- raitt and prine

it can happen to you- yes

one more for the road- ronnie lane

books

just to show how slow on the uptake i can sometimes be, i just got around to reading ken keseys- one flew over the cuckoo's nest and Jack Kerouac's on the road a couple of years ago. i tried to read them when i was younger, but i never could get through the whole book.

albert camus-the prisoner
albert camus- the plague
plato- republic

i went through a period of time along time ago reading a lot about the mafia, not anymore.
i read a few books a year if i'm lucky or hit a book streak. can't go through a whole list.

movies
i can't bring myself to list much
marathon man- i think i have seen it twice
is it safe, is it safe
that line always cracks me up

the help- i liked it

i just wanted to list a few things to show how
easy it is to get distracted by other things. that may have been partially what happened to me, i got so distracted by other things, i almost forgot to do my own thing.

deep background
here's where the details start to get fuzzier.
i played a lot of sports when i was younger. by the time i was 18 i really had no idea how to play guitar because i never practiced.
i keep referring to certain things as vision. i am calling them this as a matter of course, but i don't know really what the correct term might be.

i mentioned i have had two visions. this one, which is more of a non-personal, larger community type and the one when i was younger, which was a more personal vision/dream, i think.
it turns out the first vision i had after reading plato's republic. combined with a childhood dream made for a confusing stew. let's just say i did not handle it well. i tried to suppress it and control it which are the worst things one can do, especially with heavy alcohol or hard drugs. this went on totally unsuccessfully for a few years. eventually around twenty-eight i started a period of recovery where i went back to school and held the same job for about 6 years and had a couple of almost practically normal relationships with women.

so the other night when this latest thing happened i knew i could not risk holding onto it so i shared it with no idea of the consequences.
it might be worth it to look at this way. i had a "vision" and shared a "version" of it on the internet. so even though the "vision" is mine, the "version" i shared now belongs to the internet and i don't consider it mine anymore.
most people may want to simply ignore it, others may want to view it as a story with some funny parts in it or the really interested may want to interpret it. i'm sure there are many ways to look or not look at this. i don't know what to tell you.

the only dance move i know is the two-step.
i can two-step around something for a long time without ever addressing it.

did u want me to mention the arrests and jails, the detoxes,rehabs,half-way houses, homeless shelters, even though i knew i was acting very strange and for all intent and purposes i was acting a bit crazy , i knew something they didn't know so i never went along with the idea i was crazy for very long.
we have been living in a very sick society for quite a while where, for example, there is a lot of abuse of power, the local,state,and federal corruption, some religious people who don't believe in science for some reason and wanted that view accepted as mainstream, the questionable business practices of some companies,
the gangs and drugs and violence, the list could go on and on. these things won't work out well.
so today i feel a bit vindicated and without lifting nothing but a pen have proved myself "right" and them "wrong", to my satisfaction.
for some reason i think they will slowly start to see the errors of there ways.

boy in the bubble -paul simon

these are the days of miracles and wonder
this is the long distance call

i figured i better get out in front of a couple things. better to hear it from me, "right".

everything else is either not true or not worth mentioning at this time.

bankrobber-the clash

gloria-laura branigan
the voices in your head

the harder they come-jimmy cliff
the harder they fall

dreaming-blondie
dreaming is real

celluloid heroes-the kinks
everybody's a dreamer

road to nowhere-talking heads

get up, stand up-bob marley and the wailers
you can fool some of the people some of the time
but you can't fool all the people all the time

while you see a chance- steve winwood

soul salvation-english beat

everyday i write the book-elvis costello
everyday, everyday, everyday i write the book

rags and old iron-nina simone
All he was buying was just rags and old iron

hopefully this brings us all up to date and current.
from my song selections it might look like we are still in the 1980's, but looks can be deceiving and i'm pretty sure we are current.

it might be time for something different now.
how about a trip around the world to see who are allies are. living in california, our first stop is mexico. as far as i'm concerned mexico has always been our friend. they are having some issues now, but hopefully we can cooperate constructively and work them out. heading furthur into central and south america, we see america's past of meddling in things that are none of america's business and this has probably caused a lot of brutality and violence. hopefully that era is over and slowly, by focusing on the needs of the people down there, things will improve for everyone. canada, eh. heading to europe we stop in france. great country, i think paris was built as a work of art, i could be wrong. italy, when i went to the train station to use the toilet, they had a big room with many holes in the ground and no toilet paper and no privacy. being used to american plumbing i thought this utterly barbaric, but they are still our ally.

germany deserves a special mention imo. after ww2 i believe they were not allowed to build up an army, so for the past 60 years they could spend most of their money domestically and not on the military. they build some top quality expensive items that are second to none and exported to foriegn countries. they have built up quite a bit of alternative energy and i think are against nuclear energy as being unsafe. i am not an expert but germany must be considered as a model of what can be done if a country does not spend so much on the military and old energy.
eastern europe-i have ancestors from south of russia, so i have always liked most of the people from eastern europe and russia. russian society is quite out of balance as well. alot of there poorer citizens have it rough and they have a bit of a alcohol problem as well. africa-here's where i believe earliest man rose up out of. i don't know why some parts of africa seems to have
it rough. i was friendly with a girl from tanzania and i really liked her and her friends from tanzania and kenya. after we clean up america, there must be a better solution for africa. we are not going to stop everywhere, but let's make a couple more stops. middle east- there seems to be some tension here. i feel most of the people of these countries are our allies and its a minority of people and extremist who are fanning some flames. too much to be dealt with here. china? the big question mark. north korea- very close to a line they don't want to cross. iran- should really reconsider how they want to go foward as a country unless they want to become like north korea. alot of young people over there who are our allies. after the shaw was kicked out a lot of iranians came to america. a few of them lived in my neighborhood and after getting over some different customs, most of them turned out to be quite nice. i also met a lot of students from different countries when i went back to college and i never met anyone i didn't like something about.
i am going to go out on a limb and say every country in the world is our ally whether we or they know it. i don't think we have a choice.

as i mentioned earlier, its not one thing, its two things. nukes and social justice for the poor.
north korea is like a friend who tells us something we don't want to hear. what are they telling us. that america cannot continue to treat the poor in america and around the world(with unjust policies)so those at the top 0.6% can take all the resources which they could never use. this is unjust to the everyone, but effects the poor the worst. the middle class gets squeezed and the regular rich people get lumped in with the super rich. the 0.6% has been trying to spread the untruth that poor people are poor because of some fault of there own. if they only work 100hrs a week for 20 years they can save a down payment on a house and then get a loan and they and their kids and grandkids can spend the next 100 years to pay it off. imo, north korea is doing us a favor, whether they know it or not.
some of america's policies at home and abroad are wrong and should not continue. syria has been caught between the old way of doing things and the new way of doing things, no "easy answers" here.

i don't feel i have much mojo right now, so i figured i can quickly go through some sticky issues. these are the kind of things where if your not careful, you can get stuck for years.

education-good for kids to learn reading, writing and arithmetic. best for older kids to do the best they can and learn from any mistakes they make.
women-i love women and think they should be respected as equals.(for the most part) i can be a difficult man to deal with sometimes, so i am not a good example. not a good idea to try and control women or children for that matter.
no more sticky issues right now.


i am going to say this completes part 2. if you were not watching carefully, we scored a few posts back and now lead 1-0 in our game. if we were playing english soccer and were england, we might sit back on defense for the rest of the game and play it safe, only to have the other team score with a minute left to tie the game and then say something like "darn, chaps i thought we had this one. but we are americans born with a sense of adventure, so the only logical thing to do is to go furthur.

oh gosh, did i say something wrong. i feel as those i might have. what could have it been.

this is non-required reading.

i was brought up in a home and a school where women were equal. now that i am older, i have come up with my own values that are similar but they are also different. to me the issue of equality never comes up in my everyday thinking. but i know there a lot of women in america who are in controlling relationships and they bring up children in very controlling environments. every culture is different. in cultures where the idea of inequality or equality never come up, chances are it is healthy. but here in america the issue does get raised and we as a country have to decide whether its right having kids from controlling environments be in the same classroom as kids from non-controlled environments.

isssssss

i will have an ending tomorrow, if i can get to it, or thursday. i think it should be a good ending and it will be a happy ending to this story as well.
no expectations, please.

zzzzz

i have tried to leave politics out of it up to this point, but shucks, i just can't stay quiet any longer.
i have never met obama, but he seems to be a pleasant and agreeable person. i generally like people with these qualities. on the other hand, i don't like unpleasant and un-agreeable people as much. obama is very well educated and seems willing to listen to other ideas.

the republicans in congress seem to have been trying to turn us into a christian version of iran. they should at their earliest convenience, come out of their stupor and accept that science is real and is perfectly compatiable with religion. they should start backing the president before they are accused of being un-american.

the last people in the world the president should be listening to are the republicans that seemed to want to turn our country into a non-science believing, iranian like christian country where everything is controlled. is this fuckin clear enough.

from,
a slightly controversial figure from the 80's.

i am not a scientist, but i have been around people who are scientist and mathematicians during my life.
science and math are real and have been accepted for centuries as being real.
why have we been having what seemed like a national debate for the past 15 years about evolution as being the most important thing in the world. i have read the book, on the origin of species. it is a very complicated book and even if a person understood it, it doesn't mean its true or you are required to believe it. whether the theory is right or wrong does not change the current issues we face today.

it is not reasonable for an american citizen today to not believe in science. just because a scientist says something does not mean its true either. a scientist is required to state a theory and then to prove it. let's take global warming- i have not read much of the details, but there seems to be a scientific consensus that something is happening called global warming. i think we should move beyond trying to prove its happening and now actually try to come up with some solutions, based on real science and math.

there is a difference between science and technology as well. scientist and mathematicians along with others, built nuclear weapons,a lot of them. whether it was a good idea or not, to even build one, the idea that we now have tons of these and more countries are trying to build them is not something we should accept as being normal.
we should really start to get in the mind set, that we need to start to disarm weapons and get other countries on board as well. who is going to do this disarming, scientist and mathematicians along with others. even if i wanted to disarm a weapon, i have no idea how to do it and it could take me years or forever if i tried.

the flooding of new orleans, the new york/new jersey hurricane, the japanese tsunami, to me these are all signs of something being out of balance.

we need to use science and math to come up with newer and cleaner technologies, while at the same time use science and math to get rid of the old technologies that are causing us problems like national disasters.

we need to stop building prisons and hospitals and start building a healthier society that is less punitive and less stressful.

lets look at new jersey for a moment. i believe it was given about 50 billion dollars in aid. it takes a long time to spend 50 billion dollars and chances are a large percentage of that money won't get to people who need it, but will be siphoned off by local officials and con men.


public money has to be spent more wisely and people have to take more personal responsibility to see that it is spent so that it actually does good. giving some con men 400 million dollars to build a solar plant, only to go bankrupt shortly after is not good policy. we need people who take this stuff more seriously to do the work and not con men out for a quick buck.

these floods and droughts and some other things are not natural disasters, they are unnatural disasters. if we continue with the way we have been doing things we will just be sitting back waiting for the next unnatural disaster that decimates a large area and then spend another 50-100billion so they can rebuild. this cannot be looked at as a cost-benifit analysis or a business decision.

we need a long-term plan(30 years or so) and take concrete steps now. like finding scientist and mathematicians who put science and math first, not politics or some other personal belief and armed with the idea that there is a problem and there is a solution, i think they can come up with some long-term plan of steps to take. if we find some good people it won't take that long to come up with something.

in the meantime, to occupy the people who have been screwed over the last 15 years or so, start a domestic program that focusing on the most in need and try to produce some constructive results.
i believe people are willing to do there parts as long as its not the same old bullshit being shoveled. all the classes, but the middle class with the most reasonable notions will probably play a large part. upper classes should want to chip in and do there part as well.

govt. programs will have to be realigned to this new way of seeing things. money will have to be juggled around, and other creative steps taken to work around any resistance. there really should not be any resistance, but if there is, it should be ignored.

we can't afford to listen to points of view that do not accept math and science.

math is not 100% certain,imo. science is not 100% certain,imo. art is not 100% certain. religion is not 100% certain,imo. grow up. but clearly some ideas are better than others and some beliefs are clearly not helpful as others.

technology has gotten a bit out of hand and a lot of egomaniacs who confuse there ego with god have built a lot of crappy shit and done a lot of crappy shit that is fuckin with our environment.
no more govt. money for these assholes.

what it looks like i'm saying is we should support obama and the administration because i think they are open to listening to reasonable ideas. we should try to get other people on board with supporting the obama administration as well. democrats have to take the lead and accept that we cannot get bogged down in the old washington bullshit and we need to work around the republicans in the short term if we have to. hopefully they will get on board,soon enough.
i feel the obama team is open to listen to ideas.
i really don't think people are as far apart on issues as the media or extremists or just plan nut jobs make it seem. everything i say is very reasonable and doable. there is no reason democrats and republicans can't work together if they put there country first, not there politics or personal beliefs or ego's first.

if this does not seem to work in the next couple of years, we then go to plan b.

now that wasn't such a chore, was it? i feel better for speaking up. whether anyone is listening and willing and able to do anything about it, is another matter. i am not in the results business. either way it is a happy ending. if people are willing and able to do something, great. i think this is the preferred route. i am not going anywhere, i will be around to help, if needed. if it seems too much to bother with, that's okay as well. i said my piece and either way i will continue to have a good time and a high time and a happy time, while trying to help others if i am able. but i no longer have to wonder why things are the way things are with respect to all the bullshit that has been slung around. it turns out the bush years, with all the neo-con assholes, was sort of like a mass-national delusion, not based on science or reason or art or reality, but some made up bullshit by a bunch of old fucking douchebags. but i am not angry anymore at anyone. people make mistakes, it won't be the last time.
there is plenty of blame to go around on everyside. let's try to get past it and move onl let's try to learn from our mistakes and not repeat them. now that i got that out of the way, i can hopefully end this thing here.

if you know anything about computers, they run on software. after a period of time, the software is out of date and does not work the same as when it was new. an update does not erase everything and start from scratch. if keeps the basic framework of what is there and just updates and fixes or replaces things that are out of date or don't work as well so the computer can run better.
this has partly been an update to a perspective of what is really going on with regards to current issues we face. some people may not want this update. others may only want part of it. the point is, it is available to do with whatever one wants. this is also a beta version, which means it still has mistakes and bugs and can be improved upon.
it also turns out i am a bit of a multi-tasker, so there are actually a few other things going on here, as well.

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i forgot to mention something semi-important. if we want this era of peace to last we have to treat it as a gift and not take it for granted. those that treat this as a joke will have to be re-educated. this is now an era of real peace, not a half-measure peace. as such, the old way of doing things will not work well. at this time, according to my count we have most people on our side. the .06% percent have decided to join us, it turns out they are not as stupid or indifferent as they seem. they now see it is in there best interest to pitch in, as opposed to risk losing it all. there are still a few holdouts. some of these republicans are quite stiff and i wouldn't be surprised if someone else was pulling there strings, but they are still a bit resistant. the final holdout is the military industrial complex. we are now in an era of peace. peace is better and stronger than military solutions. peace is not greedy so all we want now is half the military budget to create a new industry called something like, peace industries. peace industries might have a few govt. officials in it, but the main purpose is to get money to private citizens who care about people and peace so they can build a better future for all. i don't have the details of how exactly this will look or work. the military still has a use, but its mission must be changed to reflect current realities and this era of peace. u cannot have an era of peace and be planning for and building weapons for the next war. this is a major point, we cannot get distracted by another war because we need to focus on no nukes, global warming, and rebuilding america one community at a time. what kind of things will this peace industries do- spread the message of peace and all the good things that come with it around america and eventually the whole world. it will focus on building decent housing,make sure people have decent food to eat, make sure people get a decent education, create jobs of all kinds, including a focus on entrepreneurs starting small businesses. it will also make sure the government stays out of people's day to day affairs as much as possible. it will also include a dept of ethics and morals, to make sure things are done right and well. half-measures will not work well. we have to stop living as if everything is a threat and accept that life comes with some uncertainty. why am i confident enough to say all these things. i have a secret weapon. this country has not had a decent peace for probably 20 years. this means most young people under 20 have never really experienced external peace. now that they have felt peace and how much better it is than what we have had the past 20 years, i am certain this will push us over the top and we can now demand more from our govt. officials. it is basically a forgone conclusion. you cannot have peace and war at the same time. you have to pick one. i have made my choice. i choose peace. there it is. this peace will not be gotten by force, it just must be accepted as a reality that is happening now. we scored again and we won the game of peace 2-0.

the people can't force it, but the current administration can take action on the people's behalf and say no more to the war machine. some people have been living under the havoc the war machine has created for over the past 50 years. those days are over. the war machine has to take its place below peace. peace has the stronger and better hand now and now is the time to fund the peace machine with war machine money. out with the old way and in with the new way.
the same with the top .06% who hold onto too much of america's wealth and resources. the current administration must take action and start to claw back some of this wealth and spread it out domestically to the other classes.

Just in case you haven't noticed, you're the only one posting in this thread for a week. No one is interested. Time to STFU and give it a rest.

Here here! This is a SHOW REVIEW board. Let's keep it to THAT. Please. Take your political masturbation elsewhere.

Tank, a solid week of postings. You think that the current administration will listen to reasonable people? If you represent reasonable, NO ONE will listen as you can not state your ideas in a clear concise manner. NO ONE has listened. You appear to be a very frustrated individual seeking attention. You should also be aware that you could be drawing attention to yourself, as a person who needs to be "watched" which then means you could jeopardize this site and other well meaning folks on it. Your thoughts have gone beyond sharing and self centered. Seek help. AND STOP. Please.

lol !!!

Ok, I think Tank has some serious issues to work out! Never saw so much non-show related ranting in one show's thread. WOW!! Electro-shock therapy only sounds scary Tank. lol

greetings,
i had not planned on saying anything until after the acid test was graded. there seems to be a bit skepticism with regards to an average student getting a 100% on an acid test. (most students take either a pass or fail). i think they are looking into possible cheating. i stand by my answers not yet taken. enough about the acid test.


ps. i am not a micro manager, as long as things follow more or less certain parameters.
justice has to start somewhere. i do not think snowden has committed a crime. all charges should be dropped against him as a matter of justice. the info he leaked has been a good thing for america.
zimmerman took justice into his own hands and killed a 17 year old , he was guilty of something, but the jury has spoken.
this is a great opportunity for obama to announce (this is a sketch) the rebuilding of america for all people, apologize to people of color and poor people who have been scapgoated for too long. he can also acknowledge the great strides america has made with regards to race and poverty. announce some public/private funds/program tbd at a later date and not include too many specifics, since this will be worked out later. justice has to start somewhere and it makes sense to me to start here to avoid social unrest. i feel people want some sort of amends here.

it is important to know if the feds will be on the side of justice, before moving on to the state and local levels, where tons of bullshit will have to be cut through.
after this we will turn our attention to the middle class, where most people reside.

btw,

i am willing to work with obama's team as a paid advisor if they are serious about the change they campaigned on. alot more bullshit has to be cut through and it will probably take some coordination. thanks to snowden i can save a couple bucks on a fax and team obama can consider this my resume and get in touch.

pss. more details to follow at a later date.