2013-07-13 ~ Mann Music Center - PHIL-ly, PA

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Dean (Adamdean) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 06:30 am: Edit Post

And we do love the PHIL in Philadelphia! Lot of phreaks chillin' in the park today. Do enjoy the show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wally (Pabst) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 07:34 am: Edit Post

gonna be leavin about noon
woooohooooo.................


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff lilienthal (Jrlilient) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:02 am: Edit Post

Opening with OMSN (just to get it out of the way)... please. Golden Road,Dark Star>Cryptical>Dark Star>TOO>Dark Star>TOO>Morning Dew.
Shakedown before the shows has been non-existent the past two years before the show. Cops and licensing officials showing a super-strong presence last year.
It would be nice if that changed - the Mann is a great venue, but maybe this is why there are tickets still available in almost every section.
Hopefully they won't hassle me as I pass out flyers for my new store Classic Collections in Pottstown (near St. Peter's Village). By the way you are all invited to come check it out. Comics, records, and other assorted neat shit. cccafe.net


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Dean (Adamdean) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:19 am: Edit Post

Pottstown - Home Of Herbal Delights!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pamela shreve (Akahasha) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:12 am: Edit Post

i like that adam,and enjoyed the happy snaps of the pups,remember it's dangerous to smoke in bed...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By S. Gordon Lee Doss (Drdman58) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:51 am: Edit Post

Looking for good friends and a great show !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 12:12 pm: Edit Post

get back jo-jo.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 04:10 pm: Edit Post

Looking for a stream.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 07:08 pm: Edit Post

It feels like this will be a good one...enjoy if you are there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stargirl Dsg (Darkstargirl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 07:13 pm: Edit Post

The second set will be Anthem-like. Enjoy the ride!
XO


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andres (Rollawaythedew) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 07:14 pm: Edit Post

Really enjoyed last night's show. Some nice jamming, band sounded good. Considered going tonight, but the Philly scene just plain sucks, literally....N2O. Hope there's a nice stream.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vinnnnncent (Vschoedel) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:08 pm: Edit Post

What time does/did this show start?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bruce Kaufer (Gr8fuldadbk) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:11 pm: Edit Post

supposed to start at 8, so it's due any time now...guess no stream tonight...bummer...you tube Warren and the Pittsburgh Philharmonic for Jerry tribute. saw Pittsburgh tour opener..quite amazing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe M (Jminzey) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:15 pm: Edit Post

Started. Opened Cosmic Charlie. Then Ship of Fools and Loose Lucy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Purple Haze (Chinacat2002) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:16 pm: Edit Post

Have a great show Adam!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MojoHand714 (Mojohand714) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:16 pm: Edit Post

Cosmic Charlie
Ship Of Fools
Loose Lucy
Althea

https://twitter.com/furthurband Every time they add a song a little number appears next to the little blue birdie at the top of the browser and I refresh that page to see what the next song is. you don't have to sign up


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By westernwind (Westernwind) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:26 pm: Edit Post

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/website-test1


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:30 pm: Edit Post

Awesome job!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:32 pm: Edit Post

way-to-go WESTY!!! :-)=

Is it up and running? I'm on my droid still putting my boy to sleep. ty!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:36 pm: Edit Post

Althea, Lost Sailor, Saint of Circumstance. Did someone read my posts last night about this sequence? Hmmm.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:39 pm: Edit Post

High Stephen,

Yes. I do!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry (Hank2007) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:55 pm: Edit Post

is there a stream tonight. The one above was something else?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:06 pm: Edit Post

I'm pretty sure we're in set break Hank. keep it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:20 pm: Edit Post

Set I
Cosmic Charlie
Ship of Fools
Loose Lucy
Althea
Lost Sailor >
Saint of Circumstance


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:26 pm: Edit Post

back to waxing during the break, one of our local parks here had family day today. basically a carnival. had a great time with my family. even better when one of our bands - high schoolers, broke out and opened with 'mr charlie' and nailed it complete with the solo. even my boy was singing along '... chuba chuba, wooley booley ...' grate fun.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:27 pm: Edit Post

thanks brad!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:30 pm: Edit Post

That is it Henry...it is set break still. You can hear/watch the replay on the right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:33 pm: Edit Post

Golden Road


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:37 pm: Edit Post

(really think someones been reading my posts now ... the golden road [to unlimited devotion] is still one of the best summer songs written - beside being an - okay boys, time to losen up and have some fun antheum! looks like it's a tour after all. that's it - i'm there tomorrow night. okay, so long as the wife and kids approve.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:38 pm: Edit Post

Estimated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ramble on Rose (Merriweather_girl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:38 pm: Edit Post

Whoo hoo...

Callllliiiifffffooooorrrniiiaaaaa!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:43 pm: Edit Post

It is nice that the pulled a golden road to open the set. Portends to some rocking fun in the second.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:49 pm: Edit Post

all it needs now is a screaming smokestack lightning and the audience to behave and not that I ever wasn't, but I'll be entirely sold then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe M (Jminzey) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:52 pm: Edit Post

Anyone have a stream that works? Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:56 pm: Edit Post

Scroll up - Hurry! It works great!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:58 pm: Edit Post

St. STephen. Thought they might prophet into this.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By DMcG (Dave_mcgrath) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:00 pm: Edit Post

St. Stephen will remain!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john (Wheel1) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:01 pm: Edit Post

I can't get the stream to load on my iPhone either.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:03 pm: Edit Post

Don't know about iphones but it is working great here on my computer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john (Wheel1) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:05 pm: Edit Post

Sucks to b in a hotel room with just an iPhone


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:10 pm: Edit Post

Do you have good wifi and the ustream app?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:11 pm: Edit Post

go to the business center John and light it up loud enough to break the windows. you're going to hate yourself if you don't when you read the reviews.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:12 pm: Edit Post

11


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:14 pm: Edit Post

My absolute favorite Grateful Dead song....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ramble on Rose (Merriweather_girl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:16 pm: Edit Post

Twirling in the moonlight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ramble on Rose (Merriweather_girl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:16 pm: Edit Post

Twirling in the moonlight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:18 pm: Edit Post

Spinning and Digging to the see throughs!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:18 pm: Edit Post

Set I
Cosmic Charlie
Ship of Fools
Loose Lucy
Althea
Lost Sailor >
Saint of Circumstance

Set II
The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)
Estimated Prophet >
Saint Stephen >
The Eleven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:24 pm: Edit Post

This going to other 1?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:30 pm: Edit Post

Sir Russo Rules!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:44 pm: Edit Post

I love this tune.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:50 pm: Edit Post

Great transition into Sugar Mags


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:54 pm: Edit Post

Set I
Cosmic Charlie
Ship of Fools
Loose Lucy
Althea
Lost Sailor >
Saint of Circumstance

Set II
The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)
Estimated Prophet >
Saint Stephen >
The Eleven >
The Other One >
Comes a Time
Sugar Mag


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael and Jerri Lind (Jerrimike) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:55 pm: Edit Post

Can anyone possibly give a hint as to why I have no sound. Just got home and clicked on the stream...I hear the ad before the live part comes on but when the ad is over there is zero sound...checked out other live stuff going on and I hear that...just not this one


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (3gnl) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:56 pm: Edit Post

Sounds great on my end. Maybe your anti virus...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:57 pm: Edit Post

Refresh it, a few times if you have to.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael and Jerri Lind (Jerrimike) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:58 pm: Edit Post

ive refreshed...but will try several times in a row


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael and Jerri Lind (Jerrimike) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:05 pm: Edit Post

rebooted and now I hear box of rain...and have memorized why bo Jackson takes five hour energy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:06 pm: Edit Post

Phil sound stronger than the last two...wonder if we will get that OMSN still?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:13 pm: Edit Post

Set I
Cosmic Charlie
Ship of Fools
Loose Lucy
Althea
Lost Sailor >
Saint of Circumstance

Set II
The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)
Estimated Prophet >
Saint Stephen >
The Eleven >
The Other One >
Comes a Time
Sugar Mag

E: Box
E2: OMSN ??? stream died.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael and Jerri Lind (Jerrimike) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:16 pm: Edit Post

great looking show on paper and all of you seemed to have good things to say...so sorry we missed it...cant wait for tomorrow...anyone know when taperrob will be back?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brad (Dijon74) on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 11:23 pm: Edit Post

Really solid show. Up beat tempo. Nice spacey jams. IMO best of the three this tour. I can't wait for Tuesday.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith (Fitzman) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 12:30 am: Edit Post

PNC was a much better show. The only saving grace of tonight was getting Box of Rain instead of OMSN. Otherwise, total snoozefest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Thumb (Thom2) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:19 am: Edit Post

Really Keith? I thought it was all gravy from Prophet on after a so so first set.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brent Zeller (Bcz) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:27 am: Edit Post

They did Comes A Time and you say it was a snoozefest? CAT is one of the ultimate songs of the Dead.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred (Stellagrace) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:53 am: Edit Post

Just got home from the show, and IMHO it was a really terrific performance. The venue was great, the sound was crystal clear, the crowd was into it, and the band was spot on. Lost Sailor/Saint of Circumstance was the highlight of the first set, and the second set was a highlight from Estimated until the last note of Sunshine Daydream. Thanks for a real good time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By WeWantPhil (Wewantphil) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 02:45 am: Edit Post

Just got home. Everything was going nicely in the peppy little second set until Bobby, "the butcher of Philadelphia" fuckin' Weir sucked all the energy out of the Other One. He started both verses in such a way as to prevent Phil from thundering in the intros. Even worse, he spaced out the lines of the song, like he does in Estimated...only over a much, much longer period of time.

It's a song with lyrics. It has a structure and the two need to fit together the way they're supposed to or it doesn't work. It's as simple as that. Who cares if he remembers all the words if he sings the first line at the show and doesn't get to the second line until next Tuesday? Unless the words happen where they're supposed to the performance is flawed.

It's like a tick or a fetish with him. Bobby's so uptight about not forgetting the words that he ruins the entire performance by assuring and then reassuring himself that he knows what the next line is when he should be singing it instead. Just my take on it of course. My mind reading may not function at 100% accuracy with dyslexics.

I liked the Althea a lot. Golden Road was solid. Estimated and the outjam were good. A lot of creative jamming, much of it Chimenti driven, in St. Stephen.

It felt like the Eleven never quite pulled together perfectly. It seemed like John couldn't quite lock it in. I seem to recall some nice little spacy interludes between a couple of the songs. It was as if they wanted to make sure they were done jamming on the one before moving on to the next. I think one of these occurred after The Eleven.

Oh, and where was that A Love Supremish section? Before, during or after The Eleven? More Chimenti ambrosia.

By the way, both here and at PNC, I got the impression that John, well his fingers at least, want to play Eleanor Rigby. He seems to be fighting it though. Here's to hoping that his fingers win soon. A nice Eleanor Rigby Jam a la Jerry in 1980 would be fine with me.

The Comes-a-Time was georgeous. More Jerry (& Jerry Band) tunes from John...Pleeeeeeease!

The Sugar Mags was interesting in that Bobby seemed to end the first part of the song before Phil and John had finished building the crescendo. But then, seemingly realizing what he had done, Bobby quickly counted off "1-2-3-4" and they jumped right into Sunshine Daydream, without the usual pause between the two. It was a good recovery and something I've never seen before.

Box of Rain was much jammier than usual. Not 100% sure why. But John did seem to be somewhat at a loss at times re: what he should play and how to work out how to get back into the song structure from wherever it was that they had gone.

Very nice to not have the predictable OMSN.

Glad I went. Had a wonderful time overall. It's just so frustrating to have that gold ring within reach and then cruelly snapped away due to Bobby mishegaas.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By BeachHavenHarry (Beachhavenharry) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 03:47 am: Edit Post

I was on my feet and dancing from Cosmic
Charlie to box of rain and I'm 50 with a
dozen health problems.John's solo in Comes
A time brought a tear to my eye everyone
was on their game and on the same page.I
got to ask Keith if he was there or home
on the couch that would make a big
difference!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jbdylan (Tilmornincomes) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 04:08 am: Edit Post

Heya...to u wewantphil...Keep it to urself !! w/all Due respect ...piss off !! thank u Boys ..again !! Peace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By BeachHavenHarry (Beachhavenharry) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 05:05 am: Edit Post

wewantphil if your such an expert about how the songs are "supposed to be played" form a band and play them the way they are supposed to be played and show Bobby the right way to play his songs!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Dean (Adamdean) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 07:49 am: Edit Post

Thanks for the 4th annual summer soiree! Hope to bring back to Bar-B-Q next summer if golf doesn't get in the way! It was a lovely evening out under the stars in PHIL-ly!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By christopherlee (Smokingun) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:21 am: Edit Post

Bobby's idiosyncrasies have always been part of the Grateful Dead- i enjoy them.

That being said this was as good as any show i've ever seen. this is the cornell 77 of Furthur modern era, just really a perfect set list, perfectly played.

The mann always brings out something special, it was a beautiful night up in the lawn. Met a really nice head who had been to 200 or so shows and never heard a lost sailor > saint of circumstance, so that was special, with the sun going down to end the 1st set.

Still noticing the band playing around with arrangements of old classic songs, which I love. Comes a time was beautifully executed, best show of the tour so far, HANDS DOWN.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Edwards (Mikeedwardsetc) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:56 am: Edit Post

> My mind reading may not function at 100% accuracy with dyslexics.

Try holding what you think you see up to the mirror; that should fix it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By not for all markets (Shimmer1) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 11:42 am: Edit Post

Box of Rain used to be just Box of Rain, but it has been transformed into a much grander piece,
with delicate solos and tempo changes.

Tonights version was beautiful and it moved me to tears.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff lilienthal (Jrlilient) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 11:56 am: Edit Post

Everything sounded great from up the hill outside the fence


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By WeWantPhil (Wewantphil) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 12:05 pm: Edit Post

That's my review and I'm stickin' to it;-)

There's bashin,' hatin' & then there's just an honest review of what went well and what can be improved (from a head with 30 years and hundreds of shows of experience).

I'm happy they're still playing and I'm thrilled to go as many times as logistics allow. But there's a reason they're not selling out shows after 4 years, and it's not because there's a lack of kids out there who want to shake their bones. There's a reason, other than age & decrepitude, why a whole lot of people who had been dancing sat down during the Other One (and it wasn't because it got really spacy either). And there's a reason why there weren't any Phil bombs too, and they're both the same in this case.

I care most about that special energy this band and their audience are able to tap into. And when I see it blocked for nonsensical, neurotic reasons I can say so. That's valid criticism and appropriate for a review. This isn't the "kvell" section of the board, it's the "review" section. I would rather Bobby sing the words in the right place in the song, even if he gets some of them wrong, than sing them in the wrong place and get them right but kill the energy by doing so. There's a difference between exercising your artistic freedom to interpret your song differently and a feeble crutch used to try to get the words right.

I'm not hatin' or bashin.' I'm loving Bobby but wishing he would stop this fucked up thing he does. Again, I'm not psychic and my mind reading is even less accurate with the dead than the dyslexic, but I would guess that if Jerry were around he would say, "Hey Weir, what the fuck are you doin'? And without getting into the whole "Jerry wasn't the leader" area, the challenge now is that Bobby is the boss and there's no-one around who'll tell him, "Hey man, that shit sucks...cut it out." Not that he would listen to Jerry either, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong or that the performance and energy would be better if he didn't do it.

Peace y'all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terrapin_Sedation (Terrapin_sedation) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 12:48 pm: Edit Post

I'll back WewantPhil on his review. A very play-by-play description on the playing of the show. Which was very jammy, so if you like that (and I do) than you were happy.

For some color, I really think the band communicated well last night. It didn't always work (end of estimated and the Sugar mags gaf) but they seemed to be enjoying playing with each other. Chimenti, Russo....are anchors whenever it veers.

And the crowd was loopy as always. Venue not as hot as last few years but steamy again inside. Sweating buckets!

Very crusty Shakedown street outside, but everyone was chill. Tanks, yes, but not crazy crazy where I was.

A brief shower about 6:30 was a concern, but once that was out of the way, clear sailing.

Highlights for me, Althea and Comes A time. Steven>11. Estimated stretched ....but I think the rubberband snapped at the end. Other one was def on a leash... Box of Rain raised this show by 1/2 star to about 3.5 out of 4.

But the party was fun fun fun. Great to meet JimboJerry in the flesh.

However, me and Homey J had drama with some button-down and his wine and cheese crew, who didn't understand this is a dance concert and we actually had to leave our (more expensive)seats to dance. After 34 years and closing in on 200 shows, that was a first. Maybe more on that later.... Bottom line, we won!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:02 pm: Edit Post

Way-to-go Harry! I would have been right there with you if there instead of carrying around my thinkpad dancing in the living room trying not to wake the kids or heratic supreme being.

I agree with you Christopher about the Cornell reference. Also think about the experience and age differences right now across the stage, right? All in, last night I think is probably as good as it gets. The strangest of places when you look at it right, huh. Decreptitude? Hahahahaha. I'm very reluctantly optimistic I'll even see '73 and clean off my nut to ever think I could do what he does if I did.

We want Phil I don't think is wrong in his commentary again but makes me wonder if you and Bobby, well - need a make up date. This is the USA you know. Don't slam we want Phil too hard. You'll harvest wind.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By stephen perrs (Clutch_cargo) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:14 pm: Edit Post

Strange - It rearranged my paragraphs. The decreptitude entry was last when I wrote it and to we want Phil's comment.

With all this experience in the room and it's 40 years for me, this year - I can't believe I'm the only one to comment on JKs left turn towards and for a bar or two into Duane Allmans -Mellissa during The Eleven, That's it for the other one, then - The Other One sequence, was plainly the ONLY thing distressing, upsetting to me about their playing last night. PLEASE don't ever do that again JK please!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith (Fitzman) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 01:19 pm: Edit Post

The Other One sucked the life out of the show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stu (Stus) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 02:29 pm: Edit Post

I just checked my pocket and it looks like I have enough to put my 2 cents in about last night.

Am I happy I went? Absofuckinlutely.

Was it the best Furthur show I have ever been to? Nope.

I will say from St. Stephen onward I thought it was magnificent. Played differently (and yes that Love Supreme riff caught my ear too), that whole body of the second set was why I go to these things, to see not only what, but how the tunes would be played. There have been many shall we say quiet, subdued Other Ones through the ages, and I thought last night's was way cool. The Stephen and Eleven were executed with thought and flair, and the Comes A Time was worthy of orchestral backing. Sugar Mag and Box of Rain allowed me to not have to go to church today, as I feel I had done my commuting with the Power that is and left feeling well.

I would only ask that we as a community get together, get up a small charitable branch and get Uncle Bob a new pair of shorts, maybe something in a different color.

Light show was nice last night and I think I will see Furthur again given the opportunity.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bzl (Bzlrbi) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 03:03 pm: Edit Post

Truly magnificent 2nd set. Rockin' , jammy, exploratory, all in the right places. I'm not usually a fan of Furthur doing Estimated but it was great last night.... very reggae-fied. Phil blew out a speaker on left side with his Bomb at start of TOO. Stephen > 11 was great. Comes a Time was perfect. Basically the Furthur Perfect Second Set!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred (Stellagrace) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 06:01 pm: Edit Post

I thought The Other One was terrific. There's no reason that songs have to be played in the same way decade after decade. I love when the band explores a song and finds a different way of playing it, a different mood. There was a similar reaction to the slow Watchtower in Port Chester, which I thought was a spectacular deconstruction of that tune.

In 1973, there was a wonderful riff in the bridge between China Cat and I Know you Rider which eventually went away. I loved that riff (check out 3/28 Springfield), but if the band wants to explore the piece differently, I'm glad for the opportunity to hear what they have to say.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By We Travel the Spaceways (Sunra) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 07:51 pm: Edit Post

Great show. Playing, song selection, vocals. Seen a lot of shows over the years and this was beautiful. Bob was the best I've seen in a long, long time. His voice and his playing, which was turned way up, finally, a total treat. Phil was able to relax and let the band take on an energy all its own.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jamie Ford (Jford) on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:21 pm: Edit Post

I agree with Fred here. When I first realised that they were going into TOO I thought, "gee I hope they don't do that slow version that they busted out in AC this spring" but they did and I ended up really liking it this time around.

I thought the Ship Of Fools was great. I really liked the ease of the second set and really got lost in the Comes a Time. It felt very good and fluid all night, if not a little short.

I am starting to feel that I don't need to hear St. Stephan for a while however.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dirkstar (Dirkstar) on Monday, July 15, 2013 - 06:42 am: Edit Post

This was a good show. Fun and well executed. Great set list, but u enjoyed the show more (as evidenced by the intensity of my dancing) when Phil was driving the bus with Jeff and john. Bobby slowing down TOO was a real drain, just as it was getting cooking. JK really impressed and chimenti was hot as usual.

Great lot scene, but absolutely no shakedown (right around 430 the po po and L&I showed up and eradicated any vending.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tim joyce (Ecyoj) on Monday, July 15, 2013 - 10:00 am: Edit Post

Very fun show. 6 song first set at every show so far. I too heard the Allman Brothers tease and liked it. Comes A Time was a highlight for me. Estimated and TOO were really slow. I thought the band was really pushing the jams inbetween songs, trying to find interesting transitions and almost went off the tracks a few times. Shit like that is always interesting and there are very few bands who even try. Security inside the venue was a bit obnoxious for some reason at the usually chill Mann Center. Nice rainbow over the building after the brief rain storm. Can't believe the amount of plastic cups people left littering the lawn afterwards. Take your shit to one of the many trash cans available please. Always glad to get to see Phil and Bob with my kids....you never know when it's your last show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By BeachHavenHarry (Beachhavenharry) on Monday, July 15, 2013 - 05:35 pm: Edit Post

The Grateful Dead never played a show that was all fast rhythmic dance music.They played fast,slow,softly,loud,extreme volume that caused your heart to palpitate,improv jams that sounded like well rehearsed jazz pieces,jams that fell apart,thunderous drum solos everyone danced to,drum solos that sounded like it was played by a 3 year old,space jams that transported me to a
alternate universe,space jams that were just plain long and annoying(although it was always a good time to meet your neighbors and offer to spark up some Columbian gold),a Jerry ballad where you could hear a pin drop,a loap fast rock and roll song by bobby and always debatable encores.Further is not the Grateful Dead but everyone left happy and I never once heard the term that a song stopped the show dead.Remember you don't realize what you got till it's gone!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Boland (Mcleary) on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 11:56 am: Edit Post

There's way too much criticism here. From the middle of the first set through the entire second set this show was as good as Furthur gets. Magnificent ! Friday's show at PNC Arts was very weak in comparison.

The energy level, sound quality and musicianship were all there in sync at the Mann.

I am ready for another show whenever they can come around.