6-18-04 Red Rocks - Morrison, CO

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rob (Pjwjr) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:45 pm: Edit Post

and it goes like this...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By matthew ben nelson (Mattyb) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:55 pm: Edit Post

Touchdown at DIA in 18 hrs for the 18th of June show.

Coincedence? I think not!

Can't wait to get back HOME....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Gunnar Hanson (Gunnarutah) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 02:19 am: Edit Post

OK. Let me be the first to call it....
Drums>Space>Truckin'>Space Truckin'
or Drums>Space>Space Truckin'>Truckin'

Hittin' the road at 7AM to be there at 4PM
PSYCHED!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By cachesoul (Imthemostdead) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:36 am: Edit Post

Happy travels AGH in UT!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenk (Osorojo) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit Post

...howz about the possibility of an acoustic set to open sunday's show?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike (Ststepheneleven) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit Post

Terrapin Tonight


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By andre peltier (Wampa1) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 03:09 pm: Edit Post

I don't think an acoustic set is too likely. But you can keep dreaming.

Out of the opening jam, I'm guessing Bertha or Bucket.

Do you think there'll be another crazy cover song tonight?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dave pepin (Pepin) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 03:42 pm: Edit Post

I agree with terrapin
and WRS/LLR

... in homage to the unseasonally wet weather.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MattK (Mattk) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 04:27 pm: Edit Post

Nah, they won't play Terrapin yet.
They are going to wait till Sunday when I'm there!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dave pepin (Pepin) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 04:42 pm: Edit Post

I hope so mattk!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By You Got To Be A (Soulshiner) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit Post

space>space cowboy>jam>space trucking>space>space oddessy>space>theme from lost in space>space>looks like rain


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MattK (Mattk) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 06:31 pm: Edit Post

As it is now raining AGAIN in Denver (my cube has a window, arenít I lucky!), Iíll go with:

Looks Like Rain -> Big River -> Here Comes the Rain Again (the new cover song of the night) -> Lazy Lightning -> Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head ->Black Muddy River ->Box of Rain -> Mission in the Rain


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By andre peltier (Wampa1) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 07:45 pm: Edit Post

Mission in the Rain would be great. Did they ever play it last year? That is certainly a song that needs to be brought back.

New cover tonight: my bet is on a Hendrix song. "The Wind Cries Mary" or something like that in keeping with the Guitar god theme.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ryan (Ryan_x) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 08:53 pm: Edit Post

Okay.
the Beatles "Rain" would be alright.

suprise cover break out:
"Crosstown Traffic" - hendrix

first set maker:
Cumberland Blues

second set ignitor:
Wave To The Wind




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MULE TAPER (Muletaper) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 09:23 pm: Edit Post

"I don't think an acoustic set is too likely. But you can keep dreamin"

Maybe not tonight ..but Dont rule it out....its early yet...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frankie Four Fingers (Roadawg) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 10:39 pm: Edit Post

Can I get a setlist so far?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frankie Four Fingers (Roadawg) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 10:40 pm: Edit Post

A full acoustic 1st set would be like Whoa!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frankie Four Fingers (Roadawg) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 10:45 pm: Edit Post

Last "Wave to the Wind" 12/9/93


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frankie Four Fingers (Roadawg) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 10:47 pm: Edit Post

Last Rain 6/30/95 Three Rivers Pittsburgh, PA. I was there 2nd set opener. The night Jerry made it rain.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:00 pm: Edit Post

Robert Hunter, Red Rocks, 6/18/04

Setlist:
Doin' That Rag
Cruel White Water
Reuben & Cerise>
It Must Have Been The Roses>
Reuben & Cerise
Silvio
The Wind Blows High
*Eulalie

*=new song 1st time played


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rob que (Usbluskew) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:26 pm: Edit Post

pitt's yes they made it rain, a cloud just drifted over and cried the moment the song began. that was a perfect moment...........magic happens....pitt 95 was great show......i have a old audio that is speed up, i got in a trade, i refuse to let anyone have it or copy it..does anyone have a good pitt. 95............
would be grateful for a decent copy
thanks for all who keeps us up to date..
grateful

bring out the boys.........isn't it showtime?
are they propt to 8pm?

thanks taper rob for keeping us there in spirit w/ your updates


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith (Fitzman) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:47 pm: Edit Post

pretty sure that Pittsburgh show is available on the archive.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zang (Zang) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:52 pm: Edit Post

Good call Keith...I'm on pit right now


Can we have an opener?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By wierd steve #2 (Mannfred) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:53 pm: Edit Post

music > jam > hc sunshine


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zang (Zang) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:08 am: Edit Post

really? that would be nice!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rob que (Usbluskew) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:15 am: Edit Post

thanks, i'm attempting to download the shnn converter thing right now...........

thanks for the update.............music theme tonight would be sweet.......all bobby openers all the time? has warren opened any 1st sets...

three shows in a row with funky grooves to start!!!and the tenn. jed in bon..

babajingo tonight..look out..

run the circle to the end


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:50 am: Edit Post

The Dead, Red Rocks, 6/18/04

Set 1:
Music Never Stopped> Jam>
Here Comes Sunshine>
Cumberland Blues
Tomorrow Never Knows>
Self Defense
Minglewood Blues
Cosmic Charlie> Jam >
Eyes Of The World> Jam>
Liberty


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matty D (Cranky_pants) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:54 am: Edit Post

huh.....

that's all I can say


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dnice (Dnice) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:55 am: Edit Post

u are quick Rob!!!!

Good Job.....u the man!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jon (1dancingfool) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:59 am: Edit Post

huh is exactly what i thought too
keep it comin' taperrob you are a :-)superstar:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dolla Dolla Bill (Dstunbound) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:01 am: Edit Post

wow, that looks sick. Definitely doesn't get a "huh?" from me ;)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ryan lappi (Rlappi) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:08 am: Edit Post

no "huh" for me either...more like a "damnit, i wish i was there rather than sitting in my house 40 miles away"
oh well, glad that those folks are getting an awesome set, since they're probably cold in the rain... thanks rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Meagher (Kikkoman) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:16 am: Edit Post

The trio to open and the trio to close the 1st set are too kind. Where to from here???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron (Bantha420) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:59 am: Edit Post

So far these shows look incredible! I knew adding Warren was going to be one of the best post-Garcia moves they could have made. The strange cover selection is great also. I wonder what it might be tonight, maybe a MULE tune? Doesn't it seem they always play incredible shows at Red ROCKS? I mean we all know how much they love to play there, but DAMN!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matty D (Cranky_pants) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:05 am: Edit Post

huh as in curious, not huh as in wtf ...

when I saw the set list I didn't know what to make of it, I just thought it was interesting.

Sure it was all good in person.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dolla Dolla Bill (Dstunbound) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:09 am: Edit Post

Any word on set II? I know I'm about 30 miles away and power just got knocked off for a bit, it's crazy weather outside.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By DrShakedown (Drshakedown) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:25 am: Edit Post

Set II
@blackbird
@FOTD
Piece For You
Tons of Steel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By DrShakedown (Drshakedown) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:26 am: Edit Post

Estimated


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:32 am: Edit Post

this just in.....

friend of the devil ---black throated wind in the pouring rain.......estimated as the rain stops. "you know i'm gonna shiiiiiiiiiiiiine......heat lightning rips across the CO sky. place went nuts.....all I could hear was crackle of crowd cheering through the cell phone and my friend told me it was the lightning hitting at the moment of that lyric.

seems like this might be a very special show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:33 am: Edit Post

oops i guess it was black bird not black throated. damm.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LK (Lk173) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:38 am: Edit Post

Robert Hunter, Red Rocks, 6/18/04

Setlist:
Doin' That Rag
Cruel White Water
Reuben & Cerise>
It Must Have Been The Roses>
Reuben & Cerise
Silvio
The Wind Blows High
*Eulalie

*=new song 1st time played

Set 1:
Music>Jam>
HCSun>
Cumberland
TNK>
SelfDefense>
Minglewood>
Cosmic Charlie>Jam>
Eyes of the World>Jam
Liberty

Set II
@blackbird
@FOTD
Piece For You
Tons of Steel
Jam
Estimated
Wheel
Drums
Space
Sugaree

So far to the best of my knowledge.

But bad weather at RR with lightning.

Contact has been lost since sugaree update


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By samntuck (Samntuck) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:51 am: Edit Post

Has anyone heard what they finished up with after Sugaree?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dolla Dolla Bill (Dstunbound) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:01 am: Edit Post

Yea I'd like to know if it's still going on


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:30 am: Edit Post

I'd like to know that Rob and his gear and the other people there all got to see a complete show and madxe it back to where they staying and that weather did not beat them up too badly..

Please..btw..everyone in chat room was really cool about stoppage in our getting setlists..

Shockingly cool..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy {Rabi}Kiarsis (Rambleonrabi) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:38 am: Edit Post

After sugaree,throwing stones>nfa

Us blues encore.

During Estimated lighting was flashing at the same time as bob sang.Ut was REALLY COOOOOL.The fog was nice for the light show,but the rain drained me.
Pray for good weather tommorow


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Puddle me! (Headsallempty) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 05:12 am: Edit Post

I must add that the entire evenings light show was insaine with the fogg early and the rain later on it was a great visual all night!!! but the estimated took toe show with the lightning off in the distance, made even moore dramatic by the fact that we had been socked in all evening no lights from Denver at all then the Heavenly Lights started and YOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! the three largest flashes were right in time with the tune as well, i swear it was the ist night i was str8!!! well like jerry said..."and pray for better weather"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Meagher (Kikkoman) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 05:16 am: Edit Post

I think a few people have seen shows fininsh like that
Throwin>NFA E: US Blues

Classic Grateful Dead Show closer


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cat Lover (Cat_style) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 05:18 am: Edit Post

Coldest, wettest show I've seen in 25 yrs of living in Denver and going to hundreds of shows there...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ryan (Jckstrw) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 05:53 am: Edit Post

Here are some cool pics from tonight's show

http://www.gratefulweb.net/photos/photoInterface/photos.aspx?direct=Bands/The_Dead/06-15-2004&img=0

This one is my Fav

http://www.gratefulweb.net/photos/photoInterface/photos.aspx?action=view&link=Bands/The_Dead/06-15-2004&image=Picture%20079.jpg&img=63&tt=


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 05:53 am: Edit Post

The Dead, Red Rocks, 6/18/04

Set 1:
Music Never Stopped> Jam>
Here Comes Sunshine>
Cumberland Blues
Tomorrow Never Knows>
Self Defense
Minglewood Blues
Cosmic Charlie> Jam >
Eyes Of The World> Jam>
Liberty

Set 2:
#@Blackbird>
@Friend Of The Devil> Jam >
A Piece For You
Tons Of Steel> Jam>
Estimated Prophet>
The Wheel>
Drumz/Space>
Sugaree>
Throwing Stones>
Not Fade Away...
Donor/Headcount Rap
Enc: U.S. Blues

@=Bobby acoustic #=Bobby and Warren only


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By peglet (Areukind) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:54 am: Edit Post

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! YIIIIIIIIIIIKES!!!

Holy Crap. That's all I can say.

Hey TR, long time no see/talk. Thanks very much for all of your selfless efforts to keep everyone connected. You rock, you know that don't you???




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By andre peltier (Wampa1) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:58 am: Edit Post

Thanks for teh pictures Ryan.

Thar's an interesting set list. How was the sound and the playing? What were the hightlights?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By midyswel (Mightyswell) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:57 am: Edit Post

> .......estimated as the rain stops. "you know i'm gonna shiiiiiiiiiiiiine......heat lightning rips across the CO sky. place went nuts.....all I could hear was crackle of crowd cheering through the cell phone and my friend told me it was the lightning hitting at the moment of that lyric.

oh great..

just the sort of encouragement Bobby the conjurer needs ;)

HA!

s'cool long as a certain someone else would just "SHUT UP AND DRUM!"

*joke*


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By skadhi (Skadhi) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:29 am: Edit Post

>> you know i'm gonna shiiiiiiiiiiiiine......heat lightning rips across the CO sky. place went nuts.....

*that's* the kind of stuff I love hearing about! oh YEAH!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark merolli (Cherise) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:39 am: Edit Post

one down, two to go.

ok the weather sucked!

but most of my reservations remain intact about the lineup change.

too many guitars, not enough on the keys (not jeffs fault, they just aint turning him up very much).

thought eyes was sloppy, in parts. music just never reall got going full blast. throwing stones was a nightmare! i love bobby, but did he get any of the lyrics right?

as i said to a friend on the way out, setlists look great on paper, but immho not a lot of meat on the bone.

maybe the fact that we sat in line from 11am in that weather negged me out, but its doubtful. no doubt there was some highlights, but i see a lot of room for improvement.

still missing joan and rob, but they have two more days to change my mind.

HOW ABOUT THAT HAIL? last year it was so hot here and now it feels like it might snow.

hey hey pockey tonight!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By funguy (Takamelody) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:43 am: Edit Post

I was wondering what they would do in response to the beheading of that poor guy in saudi or iraq or wherever that guy was. imo, that's where the self defense, eyes> liberty, throwing stones and
us blues came from last night. the throwin' stones
was one of the best i've ever seen. i'm waiting to hear it on the stream again so I can hear
what I thought I heard.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark merolli (Cherise) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:57 am: Edit Post

thought the music during TS was solid. bob completely shit the bed with respect to lyrics. over and over, throughout the song. he just gave up at the end and im quite sure thats the way the cd will sound.

self defense rocks!

liberty was fun.

the weather was even fun, to a degree, but i just didnt feel the magic last nite. not like the 2nd set on the 2nd show last yr, or the entire tuesday show, or the tampa show.

this band has potential, but turn jeff up, the guy is good enough.

definetly caught some good phil bombs late in the 2nd set. drumz was solid, we were seating 8 rows in the middle.

loved the extra bobby cheese on music (but that jam was flat) and minglewood, but TS was really bad for him.

wheel was great to see.

seen much better cumberland to close philly in nov.

and sugaree was ok. absolutely positively not even close to what happened with joan last yr at the rock. and jimmy never even got going, and that has been his song to tear apart for the better part of the last 4 years. that was a real litmus test for me, and it was a C.

im expecting a much better show tonite!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Dodd (Wharfrat11) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:24 pm: Edit Post

Just been listening to last night's show on the streaming adiio, anyone catch the few notes tease of "Long Distence Runaround" by Yes out of drums/space or was I hearing something? Use to hearing the Rigby and other teases but have not heard this one yet. Heard Warren tease Roundabout a few Mule shows back too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Smith (Smythe) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit Post

I didn't see the first two RR shows, but I did see all 5 last summer. Last night's show had some highlights, but didn't seem to flow well. Some of last summer's RR shows were beter than last night's. We were in row 35 and the volume really needed to be turned up on all instruments, but especially Phil and Jimmy. I sure hope tonight and tomorrow are significantly better. Otherwise, I'll just have to save my money for Q shows...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit Post

fog
Thick fog. I mean you couldn't see the tops of the rocks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A Wizard (Bcrawford) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:12 pm: Edit Post

I thought it was a very powerful show. A little surprised to see the less than enthuseiastic reviews. It didnt have as much energy as Wednesday, but it was pretty psychedelic. A dark and serious show.

First set was mellow but had some pretty good moments.

Tons of Steel was a powerhouse. Warren was awsome. Its was his only lead vocal of the night.

Estimated Prophit was sinister. The jam out of it was dark and powerful.

I agree that the volumne needs to be turned up. ESPECIALLY phil.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Q (Lando) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit Post

Interesting show....overall two stars out of five. Shitty weather could have had an effect. The song selection just didn't appeal to me and their peak moments were just that....moments.

The first four songs were solid. Nice opener. The thing I noticed most, almost immediately, was the presence of a wah-wah sound during the opening riffs of MNS. Jimmy has not used effects and this was a dimension that was missing last year. MNS has a slight change of pace and tempo, HCS and Cumberland very standard and very hot. TNK was very spacey and a great pick. Jimmy takes most leads, Warren takes 'secondary' leads and fills. High level of intensity for those four songs, matching up to ABB of last year and the last time I saw P&F (August 2002). The vocal harmonies sound great with Warren. Bobby's singing is nice and controlled, no early 80's antics. They try to change it up on singing by verse and by line. Things went downhill from there.

Self Defense was saved by Jimmy's face melting, shredding leads. Mickey's singing is toned down a little with a bit less bark. He hammed it up a bit waving his arms around and pointing with his drumsticks. Minglewood was interesting with the new lineup and Warren doing slide fills. Not my favorite pick but they did a good job with it. At this point I was thinking that the song selection could really swing it one way or another. Another Self Defense of Minglewood choice would send this set straight to the toilet. Cosmic was a good surprise and was done up tempo. Again, Warren's slide in the background doing the fills was an element that was missing from the last tour. So much that it seemed like last year's Dead couldn't do Cosmic the way they did it last night. Eyes was another good song selection, unpredictable. But, Liberty sucked beyond belief and was a huge disappointment.

Blackbird was just Warren and Bobby, with Weir on acoustic and Warren playing background slide. Very nice touch and improvement over last year. Friend of the Devil has become the automatic out of Blackbird and it was quite different. The other members of the band came out one by one after BB and the outro jam made this a more interesting version than I had seen in a long, long time. Nice easy jamming, no gaffs, Warren on slide. A Piece For You sucked about as bad as Liberty. Phil sang the whole thing, the song seemed to drag on for an eternity. No real jamming and a waste of time. Give me another cover or something but put that one to sleep in a hurry. Tons of Steel too. Even though Warren sings it, I would rather have seen another cover than that song. Slightly better than APFY but not much.

The next three songs seemed like obvious choices due to the weather - Estimated 'call down thunder', the Wheel 'if the thunder don't get you the lightning will', and Sugaree 'just have to stand out in the pouring rain'. By the time the Sugaree verse came around it was obvious how they had made their choices. Not my favorite songs but played solidly and a little different, which made them marginally acceptable. Jimmy used wah-wah on Estimated, one of the first times I've seen him play with effect. But, Sugaree>Throwing Stones>NFA was WEAK. Throw unpredictability out the window. TS was strong but can't stand up to the previous three shows' song selection. NFA didn't rip nearly as much as I had hoped for some degree of salvage value. US Blues was performed well and Warren's slide fills adds, again, that missing dimension. I guess they're going to play these songs sometime and I'm sure there were those that really dug this set list. I had hoped this would have been the lineup that I had missed.

I had three or four distinct impressions about their playing and would chalk up last night to a unique experience as it was cold, wet and otherwise fairly miserable. The CO natives don't mind so much because it's free water and we haven't had much of that lately. Anyway, the three or four are:

- The presence of Warren's fills, especially with effects....wah-wah, slide or the shimmering tone he uses with P&F. This is very pronounced on some tunes. Last year, Bobby's guitar playing and tone couldn't fill in all the holes for Jimmy. It sounded thin and weak. Not so this year.
- Last year, there was a gaping hole in leadership that left a lot of the transitions very flat. While there is no distinct 'leader' the transitions are much better and smoother even if disjointed or sloppy.
- The vocals are very different from last year. The harmonies are great. Warren's addition on vocals is as great as his addition on guitar.
- The three guitar thing is not a problem. The sound is thicker and denser. Nobody stepping on anybody, no clashes. There were times when Warren and Weir teamed up and it was nice to see that. There were times when they traded licks....Warren, Jeff, Jimmy, Bobby, Jimmy. Yes, Weir actually took leads from time to time and did a good job. He is taking his guitar playing and singing very seriously and is not playing second to anyone. Jimmy is the 'lead guitar' player. Warren is in the background in many ways and doesn't dominate the stage. Jimmy's leads are more super speed and straight tone, Warren plays his leads with real soul and feeling. And, yes, they need to turn up Jeff. He's a great addition and his keyboard leads add that Hornsby sound that the GD have had only for short periods of time.

Despite the fact that I didn't like the song list and it was raining hard, I got a great feeling about the band in it's current form. I'm willing to chalk it up to the weather and go back for more. Last year, I felt like they couldn't come close to ABB's level of intensity but now I'm not so sure. Definitely moments when the Dead were every bit as intense as ABB, maybe more but it was fleeting and momentary. Hope they get their shit together tonite and that the rain continues but stops by show time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit Post

rocks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huckleberry_Hound (Huckberry) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit Post

Wow, LT....thanks for that shot!!! The Candace interplay off of that thick atmosphere must have been W~I~L~D

hopin you and Miss So&So dug it, BRRRRRRRRRRAHHHH

heh heh :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenk (Osorojo) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit Post

wow, last night's weather sounds eerily reminiscent of the cold rainy 3 night run of 6/12-14/84. one of those nights the moon appeared out of the dark clouds in the middle of a Jer tune. only the upper half of the crowd could see it happen at first and slowly the cheers made their way from the top of the rocks down to the bottom over the course of the song....

...it's just one of those magic moments that happends at red rocks, if you have never seen a run of shows there make it a point to. especially in the volatile June weather that is the Colorado Front Range....wonder if there was snow on Loveland Pass last night????

shout out to all that were there in the raw elements yesterday...

KK


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Photo (Graffix) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit Post

Last night was pretty good, they managed to keep us smilling even with rain most of the night. The fog was way cool, the lights shining through the haze made the air look yellow, or purple, or blue, and the white lights showed you how hard the rain was falling, you could see the stream of droplets all in line more or less.

Then the thunder and lightning adding special effects from beyond was right on time, I think it might have spooked Bobby because it was almost perfectly timed The camera made it in again, we'll see how the fog afected the view, hoping to get closer tonight. Saw Headlight and Carole, met Other12 for the first time, didn't really now who he was at first, then it sank in, talked to Rev. Buddy Green before the show, but that was about it for any Zoner meetings.

The show in general was good, the rain didn't make it sound better, the crowd was cracking up with some Bobby flubs during Throwing Stones. Warren's voice was excelent during Hear Comes Sunshine (wishful thinking) and Sugaree, I think he busted a string during FOTD, but kept playing as if nothing happened, amazing.

Jimmy's sound could be heard, but not loud enough imho. When Jimmy, Warren and Phil got into a groove, and kept playing a steady beat it allowed Bobby to explore and let his music wander around the song without having to worry as to who has the lead because he could snap out of his musical trance at any time and the song was still going in perfect time due to Phil, Warren and Jimmy. It was nice to se how Warren interacted with Bobby and Jimmy on either side sometimes following Bobby some times steering him and always looking to keep in step with Jimmy. Some songs sounded a little slower, and different tempos had me confused at times as to where we were within the tune. Is this second verse or first? Maybe Bobby transpossed the words once or twice, either way they still sounded real good.

There were a couple of awkward intro's and at times I thought the drums were out of step for a beat or two, maybe it was just the rain? Phil had a couple of spotlight moments during the night, and really enjoyed singing with the wind blowing his hair back as he solo'd a tune or two. Bobby and Warren jams were a lot of fun, Waren adds the new dimension with nearly perfect guitar work and the soulfull voice that comes from deep within.

Really loking forward to tonight's show, hopefully if the rain holds out we can get there ealier and get closer to the stage. Too much water to really move around freely, got to keep yor stuff dry. Pics coming next weekend.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Woodruff (Jumpturn) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit Post

>>The Candace interplay off of that thick atmosphere must have been W~I~L~D

Damn, those photos are fucking SURREAL. Must have been a blast in that fog--to heck with the setlist.

Right on--


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit Post

Lando---thanks for the insightful review. But what sucked about Liberty? Just the fact that you don't like the song....or was it played poorly? I am listening to it now, and the vocals and guitars sound great.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Gravelle (Pvgravelle) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit Post

This show was the best of the 3 so far. Jimmy was just smokin! The Cumberland & Liberty from the first set was the highlight for me.

Second set really screamed IMHO. FOTD was superb, really rocked. Believe it or not, this was one of the best Estimated I've ever heard. Jimmy and Warren tore it up; outstanding jams through out... followed by a killer Wheel... The Sugaree jammed also and the Throwin Stones was also strongly played... It was wet all night, but it was worth every drop!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matt Sottile (Mjsottile) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:34 pm: Edit Post

I enjoyed the show, although I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the CDs. During the first set when the fog was pretty heavy, the sound at the top of the rocks where I ended up was a bit muted. Second set was a bit better with the fog lifted (although at that point it had turned to rain).

I think my favorite moment though was the lightning right on the mark with Bobby singing 'And I'll call down thunder...'.

I had to laugh when I was making my way through the ticket line in the fog and rain to hear HC sunshine. Wishful thinking...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:51 pm: Edit Post

1 hour before showtime... the only pic i got to take before the camera got wet.....


redrocks004


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Q (Lando) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:38 pm: Edit Post

Tommy - I personally don't care for Liberty, but, like Self Defense, I can handle it if they really light it up with some intense jamming. I had all the reasons in the world to dislike Self Defense with Mickey singing and all, but Jimmy was so hot that it brought the song way up.

IMO, Liberty was flat. After the first four songs, and following Cosmic>Eyes, I was hoping for a real 'tear down the house' set closer like Mr. Charlie on Joan's birthday last year. Liberty didn't come close. If it did, I turned myself off too early and didn't notice and did myself a great injustice.

My opinion only. I would rather have seen an incendiary Bertha, Promised Land, Deal or even the Sugaree from the second set to close the first set.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted (Buddhat) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 02:02 am: Edit Post

I have to say in all my years of seeing shows at Red Rocks, this had to be the most visually stimulating. The fog was a TRIP, particularly from Row 40 on up. "Ship Rock" (the North side) looked like the bow of the Titanic, seemingly just before it struck ice. Very eerie.

Saw Neil Young there in the pouring rain a few years back, and it was cool. But the Blackbird/Devil 2nd set opener was an all-time highlight for me. Seemed as if the light rain was playing percussion. Quite serene, and special as I think the crowd was expecting Help/Slip or something more rocking. A nice treat for a brave crowd enduring some fairly brutal weather. Estimated and Sugaree were nice for similar reasons mentioned by others, and I thought very well played -- Bobby seemed confident/strong all night, particularly in the second set.

Although I had a blast, I was not all that impressed musically with the first set -- looks good on paper, but I thought the band felt disconnected, particularly on Eyes. Drums/Space was one of the shorter/lamer ones I'd ever seen. Here Comes Sunshine couldn't hold a candle to every P&F version I've seen/heard.

That said, I'm anxious to see more shows this summer -- I was worried that the 3-guitar thing might rear an ugly side -- not the case. They seem cohesive, focused and patient with each other.

Miss Rob, but Chimenti is sick, particulary on organ (wish he would have played more.) Loved Joan, but anyone who thinks Warren doesn't sing more from the heart (particularly Jerry songs) is crazy. I think one tour with Joan was enough -- we had our fun with the hired gun, but now Warren can bring us back to soul vs. schmaltz.

Overall, one for the record books when it comes to overall sensory experience!

Can't wait for the Gorge!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 08:13 am: Edit Post

gorge?

never heard of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By #3 (Backonthebus) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 11:46 am: Edit Post

What is Piece for You?

Just got the zoneradio stream started. We are so lucky--amazing to be able to listen to a show at home the day after it happens.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ScottO (Augustwest420) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit Post

Ok, here's my two cents if anybody is still checking these reviews. First of all, it was a struggle to make it through this show due to the nasty elements (fog, rain, etc.). That said, I thought this was a good show- 3 of 5 stars for me.

The Music opener was scorching hot! One of the best post Jerry versions I have seen. The jam coming out of it was sweet as well. I heard HC Sunshine during soundcheck from outside the gates earlier in the day, so it came as no surprise that the boys went into it next. Surely not as good as the PLQ versions, but still nice. I do miss Rob's singing on this one for sure.>
Cumberland Blues!!- probably the highlight of the show for me, this version was smokin'! One of the best versions I have EVER heard! This one definitely got the most dancin' out of me for the night (it helped that I wasn't totally soaked yet).
TNK-nice choice especially given the fog. Real trippy and eerie with the lights shining through the thick cloud. Also, a little optimistic reminder that saturday might be better weather.
>Self Defense-I'm not a particularly big fan of Mickey singing songs, but I like the music on this one.
Minglewood--PLEASE CAN YOU STOP PLAYING THIS SONG FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR BOBBY!!!!!!! If I hear this one more time I think I'm gonna puke!!!!! Still I guess it was a decent version.
Cosmic Charlie- not one of the best versions I've ever heard. PLQ had it down and the Other Ones '02 also played it better.>
Eyes--probably the weakest version I have ever seen live. My initial excitement turned to dismay as the intensity of the song faded noticably.> nice jam>Liberty- I really like this song, but it doesn't match the intensity of the PLQ versions. I also miss Rob on this one.
2nd set---THE RAIN GETS WORSE---
Blackbird- same 2nd set opener as the last red rocks show I saw last year, nice but we needed to dance here especially since it was so cold and wet> FOTD- slower not so rockin' version with Bobby staying on acoustic--hey can we start dancing now?>spacey jam> APFY-ok this is the very first time i have heard this new Phil song. Although I was happy that I finally got to see it, the timing was bad as this is a very mellow tune and all I wanted to do at this point was DANCE MYSELF WARM!!!!
Tons of Steel_ come on now, I need to dance!!!-ok version, but it was hard to stay focused as I felt like a human mop.> jam that was nice>
Estimated--another highlight of the show as this is one of the sickest versions of this song that I have seen live. Jimmy and Warren really did this Bobby tune some justice.>
The Wheel--I was calling for this as soon as I saw the first bolt of lightning light the sky, and the boys didn't fail. A sweet version with all the natural thunder and lighning effects needed.>
Drums/Space--ok time to go to the bathroom and wring out my hoody. I stayed in there for all of drums until I heard>
Sugaree-nice selection, but not one of the strongest performances of this song I have seen. Nothing compares to the GD '77 versions or the PLQ '01 versions.>
Throwing Stones-not the best either>NFA--whatever happened to audience participation. The NFA chant is so weak now that I am personally embarrased of the crowd and wonder what the boys think about it. Anyways, there was a small contingency that knew what to do, but the rest of the crowd seemed unaware.
US Blues encore was standard and I was glad to be headed out the gates to drier weather.
Summary:

sweet 1st set minus the Eyes

mediocre 2nd set with only a couple of highlights, but the weather was crappy and the crowd was subdued, so I knew that saturday would probably be better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By skinosepopsicle (Carlo) on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit Post

This show rocked from start to finish.

there were a couple flubs.

in sugaree warren broke two guitar strings

bobby totally messed up the throwing stones chant:

"And the rich man in his summer home."

I loved the show and the rain didn't bother me cause the band was so damned rockin'.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sideshow Bob (Drkstrjry) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit Post

I bought the Monkey Mix cd's of the whole run - my question is: Can I get a partial refund if I request that the 3rd cd of this show NOT be included in the set??????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark merolli (Cherise) on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 05:22 pm: Edit Post

just got cd and throwing stones was much much worse than i thought. we were sitting 8 rows, in the middle. i mooned bobby and left after the first notes of nfa. i knew then he tried to change the lyrics to reflect some modern day issues, but he fucked up right from the start, and got panicked.

wow, i really dont think i ve heard him mess up a song worse in my life.

but i still love the cheese.

you would think with that telestraighter (sp?) he would have a better shot, but WOW was that a miss!

sunday not as great at i thought, but much better than friday.

lets see what happens in philly!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By freelsd (Widedhed) on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 07:47 am: Edit Post

3 day on the steps for 8th row phil side w,f,s was worth it ..........I came for that. Peace to all the folks who edured the hail storm