Well I'm reading the reviews and I'm totally psyched (thanks to everyone who has submitted). I was just planning on going to the Charlotte show but after reading the reviews, well one in particular from a phan who said the show brought him to tears. That's only happened to me once when I went to see a band called "From Good Homes" and there was only about 20 people there and it was some of the best music I've ever heard live. So anyways I'm going to make the trip to Raleigh too, I live just over the state line of N.C. and S.C. about 20 min. south of Charlotte and I'll be driving to the Raleigh show myself I'LL BE LEAVING ABOUT 2PM FRIDAY AFTERNOON IF ANYBODY NEEDS A RIDE (LEAVE A POST ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD). Last Labor day Iwent to the Dave Matthews Show here in Charlotte and received a D.U.I on the way home so I have to drive with a breath alyzer in my truck so I'm the designated driver. Anticipating some legendary shows here, I saw the allman bros. 2x last year St.Patricks Day at the Beacon and here in Charlotte and the band is smoking, I can't wait to see them with Warren back in the band along with Derek, I mean you just know your ears are in for a treat. P.S. I just moved my family down from western N.Y. last June and I'm still looking for the cool scene, were I can hear some good music and kick back with some good people.

Try the Double Door Inn on Independence Blvd. Very cool place to hang out. Spent many a stoned and drunk night listening to killer jams there.

If Phil gives us half the effort he gave on 420, we are in for a smokin time here in Charlotte. I too will be heading to Raleigh and back down to Charlotte for my mini tour. Unfortunately, family responsibilities dictate I end my run with those 2 gigs. 9 days till Raleigh. Cant wait...

Todd and China,
Chuck here>>>
My wife and me are hitting Charlotte also. We got 4 other couples going too. We will be staying at the Cross Country Campgrounds in Mooresville.
Would love to meet new heads.
If yall got time , hook us up.
And dont forget*****Warren is fukin unbelievable*****
GOV'N MULE

So Charlotte here i come! I knew i needed to see another show on this tour.I'll be flying in late on sat.I get to Charlotte at 4:11pm and right to my hotel,I'll be staying at the Holiday Inn university,it was on the venue site.And then catch a cab to the show.I may miss the first part of the allman's set,but i hope not.I've only seen them once {red rocks 96'}.I know P&F have played Passenger a few times on this tour but I would really like to see it.I'v never seen a ALLIGATOR,so that would be cool also.I'll be in the lawn so i hope the sounds good up there. OK so we'll be on our wayyyy! see ya all down south

Charlotte>>>Hell yea!!!
This will be my lovely wife and mine first show this tour. Cant wait!!!
Been to many of shows in Charlotte and the cops have never been a hassle( to me anyway ).
I dont know why this person above me wants to say these shows will suck? He must be a Betts head and is a little depressed. Fuk Betts>>>hes a waiste who cant even stay straight for his buddy Charlie Daniels.
Who cares anyway. The bros are going to rock and I hope my lovely wife really gets off on them, But PHIL is the man of the hr. right now , and thats who Im going to see. Dont forget about Warren either!!!!!!
So if anybody wants to hook up and party before the show, let us know.

Chuck and all Any good suggestions where to hang for NC shows at or near the venue to meet others from Philzone? mikeV "people can you feel it..."

Mike, dont know much about Charlotte because we are coming from Va.
But we are staying at the Cross Country Campgrounds in Mooresville. About 30 miles west of Charlotte.
Theres going to be 4 of us couples(older heads that is). From what im reading on this forum, Hell I hope we fit in!!haha
But anyway, Your welcome to e-mail me at carareed4vt@aol if you want to hookup!!
If not, enjoy the show DUDE!!

Chuck this is Todd DiPastena I'd like to try and hook up with yall at the camp grounds but that maynot be possible due to some prior commitments but maybe we can hook up at the show somehow, any ideas? Anyways like I said in my first post, It would be great to hook up with some cool people, you mentioned that youre an older head, I'm 35 and my wife (Michele)just turned 31, she may not be able to make the show though we are having a hard time finding a babysitter for our 3 boy's

Does anyone know what time we can get into the lot in Charlotte on Saturday? We want to get here as early as possible. Thanks.

Todd,
Look for me. Dont know what vehical but(lets see)
I guess ill wear a yellow simi-tank top and i guess ill have on a black NIKE hat!
we are leaving at 2:00 today, so e-mail me and Ill give you more info that I dont wish to share here!!
Remember, do it before 2:00
If not , ENJOY THE SHOW

Todd
Bye the way.
Im 35 too. Almost 36 with 2 Kids.
My wife just turned 39 TODAY!!
Happy B-day honey!!

Set 1

Jam>
Ramble On Rose|
Celebration>
Casey Jones|
Cumberland|
Forrest of Fenarrio|
Shakedown>
Wheel>
Scarlet>
Jam (little Mtn Jam tease)>
Rider

Encore: Doin' That Rag

Very well played, meltdown during shakedown, scar/rider blew everyone away, including band, wheel very supple,extended Cumberland, They tried something different with celebration that I liked a lot
Added a subtlety to the 1st half of the say it chorus that built to a pop with the say say sayit line and powered out with the last four lines

Condensed version of a review from a friend--obviously, way too short a show.

thanks lady tc and Dewit.. not used to getting a Phillist this early...
..i Can't Wait to read Chuck-Philnatics review. let's hear it, dude, and with some enthusiasm this time :)

How about the Allmans?

ahhhhh!!! i am so jealous i didn't make it down south...now i won't get to see phil again til fall; the brothers will be in my neck of the woods in pittsburgh on august 19th so that's not too long to wait to see warren and his other family. i just want to let everyone know how lucky they are to have made it to these phil and brothers double bill shows....could you ask for a better evening of beautiful music right now??

DEWIT: did you get my email with my address??? let me know if you want something in trade, i can send you my list of shows, although i don't have much phil, i have some nice dead, etc....

Not sure which site to post at...getting in the show was a nightmare,

The elder TC, Tom Constantin is onstage with the Allmans.

Correction. TC sitting in front row. JC would not reveal whether or not he would be sitting in.

Dear Mr. Fantasy>
Brown Eyed Women>
Unbroken Chain>
She Said>
Stella Blue,
St. Stephen>
The Eleven>
St. Stephen>
Terrapin
Enc: Patchwork Quilt>
Blue Sky

As always, if this isn't perfect, sorry, I do the best I can with what I've got. Special thanks to LessThan for sending out the lists from so many shows. You made alot of us very happy and very jealous. Have a safe trip home.

Major change, sorry. No Blue Sky, Golden Road closed the show.

With a larger and larger sound
Reached critical mass and just stayed there
I thought I was going to be dissapointed
after the last two great shows but it was Monu-efin mental. I have to go to the lot and take care of my riders and say my goodbyes so more later.

Dewit please post this transmission in its entirety on the review board as I never want to forget this night.

Okay, this is a final,

Dear Mr. Fantasy>
Brown Eyed Women
Unbroken Chain>
She Said>
Stella Blue,
St. Stephen>
The Eleven>
St. Stephen>
Inspiration Jam
Golden Road
Enc: Patchwork Quilt>
Blue Sky

Thank you TaperRob.

hey....whos doing the lights at these phil and allmans shows? Candace or the Brotherhood or a little of both??? just curious...later

lights were by whoever closed. same with the PA. The sound and lights for Phil closing were the best in my opinion. The Allmans sound was poor in Va Beach until Southbound. They sounded great in Raleigh and Charlotte. THe Elizabeth Reed was epic, even without Betts.

Well, just got back from Charlotte.
Heres my review as if anybody really cares!
Having been out of the scene for a few yrs, I was really impressed with the lot. Lot of great people and a lot of older heads as well as me and my wife. So we were actually very comfortable and relax. I didnt see any bad scenes with the security and actualy I we were parking right beside a couple of younger fellows who fired up a bowl and didnt actually see who was checking them out>>>You guessed it>>>the Golf Cart Highway Patrol. Well they walked over to the guys and I dont really know what was said through out the whole scenario, but I did catch the Sarg tell the guys to "put it away and enjoy the show".Grate releif.
About the scene, I just have one bitch>>>
Whats with the Fukin Dogs?????
I dont Remember such a canine gathering back in the eightys like I saw in Charlotte. Does Ratdog have any relavance with this? haha
On to the show
We had really good seats in front center, Halfway back---no to bad
Susan was good. Didnt know alot about her but was impressed with the Janis type vocals.
The ABB was freakin incredible. It was mind blowin to hear a Elizabeth and whipping post. My wife really was loving this. Thats the only reason she went anyway.
Phil---OK, Here we go!!!
Yall probably going to hate me after this review but thats o.k.
Ive been to many shows>> starting back in the early eightys to all the way up till Jerry passed.
Ive heard all types of shows from 3hrs of extreme mellowness to dancing to all the Blues and Boogies that youd ever cared to hear>
But this was my first so called "DEAD SHOW RELATED SCENE" ive been involved in in a while, So I got really Pumped up for three months to see this one show!! But Im sorry . I was a little disapointed.
Fantasy was pretty cool like always
BEW was a highlight
St>Was as always, a crowd pleaser. The only thing about this a guy right beside me turned to his buddy when it started and said " Oh, no, Not again. Evidently Phil has went alittle overboard on this St.>Eleven>St. mix up. But hell, I thought it was good!
Blue Sky was awesome for an encore.

Heres it goes
Ive never been to a dead related musical were Me and my wife Both fell asleep during a show without chemical endorsements>
This show was very SLOW . Too SLOW
And Im sorry if yall disagree with me and maybe my Journey is over and Im too old, But i went expecting a KICK ASS dancing and Mind blowing Boogie like old times. I love Phil just as much as I loved the rest of the boys, and I shouldve known Phil Would be the Physco-fukin-delic one in the first place. But come on. This was a ABB show Stealin extravaganza as I seen or heard of.
It was like the Brothers got me up and dancing and Phil gave me a pill to get out.
Stella is a beautiful song, but why keep it going? It just Made me more depressed. God, I miss Jerry.

O.K. Heres my final comment and I know yall will be glad.
Im glad I was there to see the remembrace of Jerry there thru the crowd and the music. But I really had to beg my Wife to go, because she is one of them Jerry's gone > Dead's gone type of person.
Thank you Phil for helping me realize my wife is probably right.
We love yall and are very happy to see the younger crowd trying to keep the wheels rolling, But when your journey has come to an end, You will know. And I knew it on Aug 4th>>>
I wish yall all the luck to Phil and Bobby and whatever else is going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall can talk about Warren and Jimmy all you want, But This kid Derek>>>> yall better watch him!!
Just had to put that in!!!!!!!

Well any way """LOVE yall and wishful Captain Trips to all!!!
Bye
Chuck and Cindy

Thanks for the honest review...

Hey Chuck, this is Todd. Hey Man I totally agree with your review of the show, my personal feelings are that I could always emotinally relate to the slower(if you will)songs that Jerry used to perform such as Stella or Ship of fools because that was Jerry singing them and it was coming from the heart,sort of where he was in his life-you know what I mean. But see with Warren singin these songs it's just not pulled off properly and I also don't think it ever will be.
I just thought that this was a tour of celebration with some top notch players and a great catalog of music to choose from. I've been checkin out the reviews form all the shows and for the most part I've seen some real celebration happening. It just seemed as if the Charlotte show had a lull to it maybe the guys were bummed that the tour is comming to a close.
Ya know where were some of the classics like "Eyes of the world"
"Touch of Grey"
here's along shot considering that Bobby's not on stage, but it seems odd to hear all that music comming off the stage and not hearing "Another Saturday Night" on a saturday night show.
The Allman Brothers were hot though and they always pull off a great show here in Charlotte in fact I've nevr seen a bad Allman Brothers show.
Peace everyone and keep the vibe alive and Chuck maybe we can hook up sometime, with the wives and kids an all.

Chuck, Todd, thanks for your honest thought, it reminded me of something i thought when these shows were announced..

is it possible that The Allmans set made you listen to Phil differently? They are much more straight up rock n soul as opposed to what Phil is doing, which just doesn't deliver that instant gratification blues-rock boogie in that way...I know i've had my moods even affect my take on shows, i thought some were pretty bad that i later found were damn good.. bands on the same bill can affect you like moods, i know i've seen Dead shows affected by pairings with The Neville Borothers..

I hope you give Phil another try with fresh ears in the Spring, I know its tough adjusting to the tunes we all love in a different setting but there's alot there to treasure as well...

I guess I "Don't understand" Why people still compare the PLQ to the Grateful Dead? Didn't they get the memo?

I can understand if its your 1st dead related show in years..i felt that way on Further the 1st couple of years, hard to hear the Jerry tunes at times..

Chuck, btw, i thoroughly enjoyed your enthusiasm right before the show...forget the schmoe who had a problem w/you saying happy bday to Cindy (did she have a good one?), i thought that was cool and your energy was contageous..keep smiling, brother..

Point taken, I also felt the same way about Furthur. Just a little defensive cuz I LOVE THIS BAND!! I took my wife and 2 children out to the west coast for our annual homage to where it all began. Did the (3)Greeks, Eugene, Snoqualmie,(2)Red Rocks, Oklahoma, St. Louis, and Charlotte. The "Love Beast" only got stronger with each show.
My faith in the music has never been stronger and means more the more we go through. Please don't take offense to the "Memo" quote. I would just like everybody to feel the "love" that I feel, cuz I know it's there!

I can't believe what I am reading from you guys???
Were you at the same Carolina shows that my wife and I were at??? Before I start criticizing I would like to mention that I love and respect ALL music and musicians. Having said that, I was even more dissappointed by the Allman Bros. than I thought I was going to be. The Friday show was the biggest psychedelic joke that I have ever seen. I'm sorry, but just because you put huge mushrooms on the stage, it doesn't mean you are getting good psychedelics. I've only seen them once before about four years ago and I loved it. Derek Trucks is a great player for a kid, but I don't like to listen to kids...if you know what I mean, and didn't Warren alreay quit that band once???...I wonder why? Maybe because the jams seemed prerehearsed and the solos were just slapped on top of them...just like it was a few years ago. I'm sorry, but I wasn't getting that genuine, improv style jamming that we all love. Phil's band was obviously holding back on Friday so that he wouldn't totally overshadow the Allan's act, even though he ended up doing that anyway. I left the show feeling like the Allman's had filled me full of bad energy, not to mention the crowd wasn't quite as experienced as I'd hoped them to be, but what do you expect.

Phil and Friends!!! In my opinion there is no better jam out there 'right now'. There Charlotte show was incredible. We didn't even go in until the Allman's were done, because they sucked so bad the night before, it turns out that it seemed like it was the same show anyway. Phil's band was tighter than most bands can ever get. I love Jerry just as much as the next guy, but Phil pretty much is proving to all of us, that Jerry's style was not the ONLY style of Dead. I've learned that Phil played a huge part in forming the Dead's sound, and this should be obvious when you go hear him. Could any other player from the Dead form his own band and still get the same spacey, groovey jam without Phil???...I'm not so sure. I felt sad that Jerry left for a few years after he died, but its time to move on and start creating new music and who better to do that than Phil?..not to mention his all-star band. I'm sorry but if you didn't have a super show in Charlotte, you are missing out already. Of course the scene is much different from the Dead, but relatively few people have really caught on to Phil and Friends yet, so you are going to get a bunch of non-experienced people at the shows for now. Maybe this is an opportunity for a wider audience to get into this style of music, becuase I think it is one of the most unique thing thats happened in music in the last ten years. You need to "get into the mood" to really enjoy these shows in anyway that works for you. As for Jerry, he isn't Dead. I heard Jerry's influence all night long, and it was nice to visit with him again as I'm sure we all will for the rest of our lives.

IMHO, Raleigh was the first set, Charlotte the second. I felt Phil was much more energized Saturday night and the setlist more interesting.

As for the ABB, they were a good warm-up band. Eliz. Reed and Whipping post were fun Saturday night. And I, too, think Derek is a major talent to watch.

My $0.02.

--Doug

I'm not sure who to tell this to, but the jam within "Dear Mr. Fantasy" in Charlotte (8/4/01) was "Hey Jude"--and the transition back into "Fantasy" was one of the best damn things I've ever heard on a stage. Can't wait 'til the next P&F tour!!!

Charlotte had the best sound of ANY PLQ I saw from Camden on. The ABB were better Fri and Sat than Va Beach, where they did not get it together till Southbound. Sat ABB was my fave, but PLQ sound in Charlotte had an amazing clarity. The Jam opening into Fantasy with the reggae jam was terrific and I find someone wishing for Touch, ( which after 87 was a pale version of the earlier 80's versions) when they get a stellar (no pun) Unbroken Chain, a little upsetting. Different Strokes, though, and I hope you find what you seek on a different path. Ratdog does Touch, and you get Bobby too! Maybe that's the way to go! Enjoy what you get to see, cause "life is short but sweet for certain".

This post is to the rather large stealth taper who was occupying our 2 seats in Raleigh (Sec. 2, Row J, seats 12-13) under the pretense of 'keeping the aisles clear.' I could have easily given you the boot, but decided against it. I gave you my card, and expect you to send me tapes or cds of this show, as we discussed at the show. Thanks much!

I guess I'm not going to be so lucky as last year when Phil played seven nights at the Beacon which happened to be Bobbys birthday on the seventh night but more important to me Midori my favorite classical violinist in the world was playing Carnegie Hall at the same time as Phil was jamming at the Beacon, WOW! Talk about a scheduling problem! My best option was to see her Midori then I jumped in a taxi and went to the Beacon. It goes to show you can't always get what you want. There are only 2 famous people or musicians in the world that will pull my body back into the concrete jungle, Midori and Mr. Phil! God bless you all and please remember that we are all brothers and sisters.

Hey Chuck,
It is pretty lame that you come to that conclusion after only one show. The man is 61 years old 28 eight shows later I think he deserves to be a little tired. He only did one set. A St Stephen>11>stephen>terrapin>golden road. If you think that was boring maybe you were asleep. As far as overplaying Stephen>11>Stephen The Allmans played more repeats in four nights then Phil did in thirty. If you went on tours in eighties the dead repeated plenty of stuff. People have been complaining about that since the sixties. I feel sorry for you if you think the Dead is gone. This summer tour proved As in the words of Phil, "The music must be played, in order to close the circuit." You must be from the south because all Derek Trucks plays is slide. Give me Jimmy's licks anyday. For you to have an opinion about phil you at least have to see him in a theatre, but there might be too many dogs for you to handle.

Hey all, long time since I posted this message. If Chuck and his wife didn't enjoy themselves and got a nice nap out of the show, don't try and talk him into going to more. There is never enough room to dance, and two less people is not a big deal. We skipped these shows because I couldn't go to another ABB show again, if I had free front row seats. Warren cant help them , Derek cant help them, Chuck is doing all he can. So, we got DTB, Mule and P&F (PLQ). Chuck and his wife can do the ABB thing. And I do hope you had a nice birthday.

Alfred,

I've always wondered if Nigel Kennedy playing with Phil would work. Any opinion?

Hey guys,
Im sitting here reading all the bashing Im getting after my review. I guess I deserve it!
Im sorry if I cant express my opinion, but if you give people bad communication, they will still take it and run with it. So i take it this place is no different than any other place.
All I said in my review is that I thought the Charlotte show was a little slow and Im sorry I will not change my opinion about that! But to sit there and say nasty things like "stay home, there will be more room to dance" and other stuff like that is not really fair.
Since I was 16 yrs old in 81 I fell in love with a band called the Grateful Dead. I did not grow up with a family of Deadheads. I actually grew up in a Christian enviroment. But when I heard Hightime, GDTR, Alligator and O-ONE and other shit, I thought that there was nothing more SPIRITUAL and INFLUENCIAL to me!!!
Then I started going to shows in which I fell in love with the people, venues and the sexy grilled cheeses. Until this day, Theres still not a day that goes bye that I dont play a live show in my 88 bronco on the way to work. They _were_ my band, they _are_ my band, and they will always be my band!!!!
Me and my wife love the MUSIC. We love our friends. Just dont bash me DEWIT unless you know me, PLEASE.
As for the ABB in Charlotte>>
That was the first time that me and my wife has ever seen them and we thought that they were good. But for yall people to think that I can take this band and compare them to the Boys that became the biggest influence in my life is nothing but irrevelant!! Like I said before>>Dont bash me unless you know me!!
One more thing>>>
Ive been to many DEAD shows were I thought that they were a little lame and repetative, but later on i had a different opinion about that show. Its really kinda happening now a little. (notice I said a little)
Maybe yall are right, Maybe I should give Phil another hear again. Me and my wife were talking about that at dinner the other night--fuk it. Who knows.!!!
Well Ive bored yall enough.
P.S>>>Ive been looking for an audio for two Roanoke Va. shows in 87. If anybody know where I can find them, Please let me know>>>cash or trade!!
Thanx to Jerry
Thank yall for listening
Chuck

Chuck: "a little" ...well, thats a start..lol..do you have Phil and Friends Cd's? I'd like to send you a couple, if not..You crack me up dude, "sexy grilled cheeses" being a good example, hope you 2 make to a Spring show...let me know about that Cd..

ps:you don't ever have to mention cash for tapes around here, people will hook you up for free..

Chuck, we are not bashing you. Like you, we are posting our opinions. Just because we think we know a lot about music, does not necessarily mean we know everything! Some of my favorite bands now are bands that I used to not like. For instance I went to Dead Chapel Hill~92-93 and didn't like it because I thought they were a bunch of old men playing country music (boy was I wrong about that!) I thought the Beatles were a teeny bop girl band for many years, now I adore them. If you thought the Allman's played a great show, then for you they did. Thats super! All music is wonderful, so stick to your opinion. Perhaps you witnessed an aspect of the show that we missed. You will have to expect opposition when you downplay Phil. I felt his Charlotte show had more energy then any band could possibly produce and this makes me very excited, so excited that I wish everyone could enjoy it the same way I did. I don't think that you should stay home, I think you should continue to listen to Phil and Friends as should anyone who wants to.
So don't be offended by what people write, we are merely writing opinions, not facts.

Thanks guys,
Irisguy...I would to get to know yall a little better and do some trading . I dont have any shows on cd, just plenty on tape. I would love to have a copy of a live Phil show.

I know you Rider gonna miss me when Im gone:::::
Sorry, Im jammin right now!!!!!

Irisguy and Todd Desputana? Yall e-mail me and maybe we could hook up sometime. I could really use that right now.
Ill get up and Fly Away***
Ill get up and Fly away***
Fly away***

carareed4vt@aol

Chuck, the words "cash" and "CD\Tape Trade" do not belong in the same sentence. Ever. I'm sure you meant B&P (Blanks and Postage)...

Personally, I don't have much in the way of 80s shows. I stick more to the earlier stuff, but if you post an ISO on the tape trader section of the boards, someone will miracle you, I'm sure...

Oh yeah, and thanks for the review...

Hey Mattew, I'm not really familier with his music other than he is jazzy. I did like Greg together with Phil though. Have you ever heard of Vanessa Mae or Regina Carter?