Ok less then a month away! Anyone familiar with the venue? Any ideas how lot scene will be? Order of show and time frame? My guess Hunter for 45 min then Dylan for an hour then Dead for two sets. Think Dylan will agree to him being on the soundboards?
on the fall tour, hunter played between the 2 dead sets. maybe will be the same this year. the venue is a hockey arena. there has never been a grateful dead or dead related show there, so i don't know how the lot scene will be. but the scene is always good at the other venues in south florida. not sure when they will open the lots. but if you come early bring sunscreen and alot of water. the florida sun in july can be brutal.if you go to the top floor balconies on the west side to smoke, you get a real good view of the everglades.
I have 2 choice tickets for Sunrise that I'd like to sell for what I paid ticketmaster..... Just found out that I can't go to the show... section 101 row 3. Tell your friends!!
Has anyone received their Deadtix yet.
Great Scott! I'll take your tickets.
Have not received Deadtix yet but I e-mailed deadtix about when they're going to be shipped; deadtix told me sunrise/tampa will be shipped on 7/15.
Thanks for the news Brad, have a great show!
Scott Email me Info Ill be Down for those Tix
or Call me on my Cell Phone 646-533-7459
If anyone is hitting the "Preshow Reception" ...
All you can eat for a full hour:
BUT NO GROUPER???
Why? Why? Why?
CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT SHOW
and tjw...I noticed that preshow on sale...for over FIFTY DOLLARS
no I think I'll have a beer and a burrito in the LOT!!!!
hope i get to see you down there tim and I can show just how far OUT I GET
let the offical countdown to the second leg begin...can't wait...hope the band saved some surprises for sunrise...would love to hear joan sing "to lay me down" or "row jimmy"
FYI: from past experience, the Office Depot Center frowns harshly on tailgating, probably because there's a huge mall right accross the street.
So, word to the wise, be careful- usually a large police crowd in the lot.
FLA NEEDS ALLIGATOR !!!!!!
E mail today from Dead Ticketing! Tickets were shipped yesterday 7/15 !
Out of curiosity was checking on Ticketmaster what tickets were available and now selling in SECTION 420!
The Dead, Bob Dylan and His Band and Robert Hunter
Office Depot Center, Sunrise, FL
Tue, Jul 29, 2003. 6:00pm
Section Row Type Ticket Price Building Facility Charge Convenience Charge Description
420 9 ALL TICKET SALES $54.00 $0.00 $8.50
PRICE LEVEL 1
420 9 ALL TICKET SALES $54.00 $0.00 $8.50
420 9 ALL TICKET SALES $54.00 $0.00 $8.50
well, only a week away!!!! the band ended the first leg with the first "stella blue". would like to see them start the second leg with the first "morning dew"!
Guarentee they will open with Here Comes Sunshine
ex-Sunrise Musical Center?
i justed called the office depot center and asked what time the parking lots will open. they told me an hour before the show starts, which means 5 pm.
one extra for tampa 16 th row near the middle on phils side. looking one extra for SUNRISE! floor seat or something good. let me know!
less than 48 hours to go!! "nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile"
here's a warning from the lastest grateful dead monthly news flash: Dylan does not allow taping of his shows. it said there will be a 45 minute break between him and the dead and not to set up your equipment until after his set. it also said security is aware of this policy and will enforce it. just an fyi, don't want anyone to be hassled. does this mean he won't allow the jams with the dead to be on cd's sold by the group??
>>>FLA NEEDS ALLIGATOR !!!!!!
you got that right Redneck.
second set opener/closer samwich?
Is Hunter on at 6:00 and then Dylan at about 7:00 and then we have the 45 minute break??
not sure: hunter played between the dead sets on the fall tour. will it be the same here??
Just talked to the Office Depot Center - parking lot opens at 3:30 doors open at 4:30 Dylan goes on at about 6 and Robert Hunter is playing during the Deads set break, hope that helps all and can't wait for tomorrow night.
owwooooooooo , i'm not even going to FL and i'm psyched , maybe it's because i'm going this Saturday? hopefully i will find a ride to summmerset>fear creek>columbus as well .
nothing like getting in for a kickoff , even if it is the "2nd leg" .
have a blast folks . this place is getting hot
have two sweet extras for tonight - meet me in lot?
leaving in about 15. I'm wearing Other ones blue tye dye with eyeball in center
leaving west palm at 3:30(gotta work), should put me in lot at 4:30. green tee, KINGSTON 10 on front BLack Lion of Judah on back. whew!
well folks any word on first set?
Shakedown>New Potato>Ala Getaway>Baby Blue>West LA
what time was this show supposed to start, atlanta is scheduled for 5 p.m.- seeing if it starts at 6 in florida
Shakedown>New Potato Caboose> Alabama Getaway (Dylan vocals & piano) Baby Blue (Dylan Vocals) West LA Fadaway (Dylan vocals) Crazy Fingers (Joan vocals)> Jam> Cumberland Blues> TNK (New arrangement?) Liberty!!!!
nice first set, any word on Dylan's set?
Wow, good to see Dylan jammin' along
Office Depot Center
Amphitheatre July 29, 2003
1. Maggie's Farm
2. I'll Be Your Baby Tonight
3. Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
5. Highway 61 Revisited
6. Queen Jane Approximately
7. Drifter's Escape
8. Sugar Baby
9. Honest With Me
10. Summer Days
Set1: Shakedown>New Potato Caboose> Alabama Getaway (Dylan vocals & piano) Baby Blue (Dylan Vocals) West LA Fadaway (Dylan vocals) Crazy Fingers (Joan vocals)> Jam> Cumberland Blues> TNK (New arrangement?) Liberty!!!!
El Paso@, Playin'> Jam> Down The Road> Jam> Mississippi Half Step, Estimated Prophet, The Other One Jam (Bob, Phil, Billy, & Mickey only)> The Other One> Drums/Space(Joan), Lovelight
e/ We bid You Goodnight
a couple quick items about the show: need some sleep to get on the road to tampa. first: dylan sucks. i'm sorry, shakedown was great, jimmy teared it up. new potato rocked and then bob comes out and it all turns bad. worst alabama i've ever heard. baby blue sounded so bad, i used it for a bathroom break. fadeaway was saved by the jam at the end. thank God bob leaves after the jam. first set highlight was "cumberland". the band smoked!! the highlight of the second set was "days between". between joan's vocals and jimmy's guitar work, it was unbelievable. joan owns this song in my option now. jimmy rocked all night long. all and all a great show execpt the songs with dylan..
agreed Dylan sounded like he was about to die... His first two songs were not good at all. I though he did well on West LA Fadaway.. IT was neat to see him just thinking about what he has done for music...
Liberty was sweet so was cumberland in the first set. The second set was awsome, I think the set list is missing a playing in the band... Anyways awsome show they sounded very very tight, I think there was just a little too much joan at the end... But regardless I think she actually contributes a lot to the band.
the crowd was nice, very laid back, to go along with a pretty mellow setlist.
Show started at 6. Dont know what time Dylan Ended but the boys played from 8:30 to like 12:00
Well I guess that settles it: Dylan officially sucks.
40 years down the drain only to findout on Philzone - poor guy.
Did anyone else notice that Bob may have changed his mind in doing a Playin' reprise, and instead did Lovelight? Happy Trails, G.
New Potato Caboose>
*It's All Over Now Baby Blue>
*West LA Fadeaway
Tomorrow Never Knows . . .
Playin' In The Band>
Down The Road Again (w/ FOTD tease)>
Mississippi 1/2 Step>
Other One jam w/Bobby & Phil only>
The Other One (v1)>
E: We Bid You Good Night
thanks to Baligirl, BOTB, Huck & Redneck
Why Dylan on West La ?
i'll take the other Bob
i've been using the philzone for info for years, occasionally came in and read threads. really appreciating the promptness on the current tour. red rocks became a ritual, listen to night before while waiting for the present to unfold. great stuff.
i just saw bobby d. he's really having a time and rocking the hell out! anyone who says he's not has forgotten what it is. dylan- lesh acoustic duet!! negativity won't pull you through...
I enjoyed this show but much of the crowd around me was pretty lame. Nobody had any energy and just sat there preoccupying themselves with other endeavors. Shakedown and Cumberland were my favs from first set. Dylan was pretty awful opening and with the Dead. As for Joan owning Days Between that is a bold statement at best I think it slowed a rockin second set to a snails pace she has way too much voice for that song. I always thought and said that she was more well suited for pigpen style tunes and low and behold she blue the roof off with probably one of the best live Lovelights I have ever heard. Not taking anything else away from her she should leave the Jerry Ballads alone and showcase her talents on other tunes like lovelight and Hard too Handle. I know it is a sensitive issue though for it seems that most people dont want to hear negativity about her but that is my opinion.
Why is it that no one on this board seems to be able to voice their opinion without being crucified. I think that part of the fun and the experience is to be able to critique the music and talk about it that is what my friends and I have done. We have fun at the concert then we break it down and discuss what we heard and we never use the negative/positive vibe trump card to invalidate an opinion we ask each other to support our comments then respect each others opinions. I have had my initial feelings swayed many times from listening to other valid viewpoints.
Without cricifying Tim G, I would tend to disagree. I thought Joan did a great job on Crazy Fingers and Days Between and showed how good a songwriter Jerry was. Last night was my first show with the new band and they were very good. I sensed it wasn't their best night but they still had some excellent moments (Shakedown, Cumberland, Crazy Fingers -> TNK and most of the second set). Joans adds the best voice they've ever had and Jimmy is able to flex his muscles playing the sole lead guitar role. They are definitley worth seeing....
Id like to step in and defend Dylan and Joan. I saw Dylan in May in Austin and he kicked MAJOR ass and my Dad saw him six in a row ( 2 in Austin 2 in Houston and 2 in New Orleans) and there he was also really damn good. So hopefully yall just got some wierd night.
As for Joan she pulled one of the best Cautions I ever could have imagined in Austin and she was beyond stellar and just simply put AMAZING at the Red Rocks 5-night ender of Stella Blue.( Not to mention the rest of the nights)
Why gripe? We're lucky to have any of them!!!!
Hell, isnt Phil 63?
>>Why is it that no one on this board seems to be able to voice their opinion without being crucified.
When you say Bob Dylan was "awful" expect to get some negative reaction. There are those who hold Bob Dylan in high regard. There are those who hold Dylan in higher regard than "The Dead".
By the way, "pretty awful" is not much of a "critique". It's an opinion. And an idiotic one at that.
How long was dylan's set, and what about Hunter? Will the Dylan stuff be on the OCRS series...
I disagree that dylan sucked, I dont think he was good at all till west LA fade away when he actually did pretty well
but his first song hurt my ears
I think this concert musically was very good the band was tight. I think joan adds to a lot of songs, but I think we had a little too much of her at the second set and I would have loved to see phil sing some more tunes.
Few notes about last night's show.
I love Bob Dylan; I think he's a terrific lyricist and I am a big, big fan. That being said, I was very disappointed with Dylan as an opener. Dylan played keys on every song with a little harmonica. I think Dylan has a great band, but his presence on the keys was far too much for my liking; too much keys in the mix. His voice was "unclear" as ever-- I didn't even realize he was singing Maggie's Farm until I heard the end of the 3d verse (and then only because I heard the term "Maggie's"). Quick set; no encore-- but not disappointed by that. I was actually glad he left the stage.
I was hoping that Dylan's performance was not an omen for things to come. I was glad that the exact opposite occurred-- I thought the Dead were tight; Jimmy was hot; Bobby was having fun; Phil smiled-- all in all, I was very, very impressed with the Dead.
Shakedown was a great opener- a lot of energy.
New Potato-- never thought I would ever get to see that song (never saw PLQ do it either)-- pleasant surprise, really liked interplay between Jimmy and Rob on this one.
Alabama, Baby Blue, West L.A.-- low point of the first set. Baby Blue, perhaps my favorite encore, was unintelligible. West L.A. was the best of the 3, with a nice jam. Ratdog plays this a bunch and it clearly seemed as if Bobby was leading the way in the tune. 1st set highlight for me was Crazy Fingers>Cumberland>TMK. Especially liked Cumberland- high energy, tight vocals. Also really enjoyed TMK (one of my favorite Beatle's songs)-- although just a C chord throughout the song, it really rocked. End of Set I- Liberty-- a nice, upbeat way to finish the set.
Second set: Setlist makes it look like a very up tempo set, but I recall it to be fairly mellow. 1/2 Step was a nice surprise-- I like Bobby's treatment of the song; Perhaps the coolest part of the second set for me was when it was Bob, Phil, Mickey and Billy jamming to the Other One (only 1 verse). The sounded very tight; very primal. Days Between- I've always liked this song; Joan's voice is beautiful but it seemed like the song lasted for 15 minutes, primarily because she paused so much between lines. Lovelight closer (I remember a few bars of Playin' Reprise before the song-- and I would consider Playin' unfinished in the set list)-- rocked-- perfect place for it as it brought the tempo up and ended on a "high note." Quick Bid You Goodnight as an encore-- because the show ran long from what I could tell.
Miscellaneous: Dylan played from 6:10 - 7:05; Dead played from like 8:20-9:35 (?); Hunter played in the middle (like Hunter- loved Peggy-O and SMR); 2nd set 10:20-11:55+; Encore finished by 12:03.
Joan: I don't know why everybody bitches about her; I love her voice; she adds a nice dynamic to the sound (especially because our boys aren't so good at harmonizing). I also loved the way she moved and grooved on the stage. As far as her singing Jerry songs, I liked her on them. Although long, the vocals on Days Between were impeccable. She belted out Lovelight and kind of danced with Bobby toward the end of the song. It was good to see a lot of smiles on stage.
End result: this was primarily a Bobby-heavy show. That's okay for me, I had a great time. I expect Phil will sing a bit more in Tampa (I'm going to this one as well). All in all-- I thought the band was tight; they looked like they were having fun-- older crowd, but it didn't really matter to me-- I was focused on the music I love.
Didn't go last night but looks to be some patterns now. The first set song lists seem to open with very hot, jammed out songs for the first three or four, then shorter, slower, more vocally oriented songs (3 or 4) then back to the rarer, more jammed out stuff. This seemed to start in late in the first leg, especially Red Rocks, and was repeated last night. Second sets don't seem to be following that kind of a structure. Looks interesting that drums was so late in the second set last night. Is that right?
The band also seems to start slow in the series of shows and really gets cooking later. The 5 at Red Rocks seemed to start slow (although others may disagree) and get hotter and hotter every night until the end.
Everyone see the article in the Sunday NY Times this past week? There is a link on the Philzone.com home page. Very interesting and indicates that Joan may be around for a while.
>> Days Between and showed how good a songwriter Jerry was
I thought Hunter wrote that song
Above, Grady says "By the way, "pretty awful" is not much of a "critique". It's an opinion. And an idiotic one at that."
How or why is that an idiotic opinion? I've seen Dylan about 10 times over the years, and to say he was "pretty awful" at a bunch of those would be kind - he completely sucked at a few of them. And he was awesome at a few others, and mediocre at a few. Why is it not a valid opinion if you think someone sucked? Especially when it's someone who sings in such a way that you can't tell what song he's playing until it's nearly over, even if it's a classic song you know every word to?
Dylan is actually pretty cool I think I have been into the Dylan more than the dead recently. THis from someone who olnly listened to the dead for years. Dylan rul;es.
Ok Grady. He was pretty awful because it was very difficult to even make out what songs he was performing. His voice was more muffled than ever and all and all his performance didn't make me happy that is not to say that someone else thought it was the most magnificent performance ever just not me hence my awful opinion. Besides I dont buy into this whole holier than though attitude about dylan, the dead, everybody. There are good nights average nights and bad nights. Just because I lend an awful opinion doesnt mean I dont enjoy going just not AS blown away one night as I will be say another night or have been on a previous night. I know what I said about Jerry Ballads but I do agree that Joan did a wonderful job on Crazy fingers. See opinions can be swayed. As for best voice I think Brent takes that award hands down
At Sunrise last night, all I could think about is how much I missed and took Jerry for granted. Even at his worse there was always a gem and the music sparkled--now we get brief shadows and that is sad. The toughest to hear was "Days Between." Joan was asked to do it and it made me think of Jerry even more--much like when PLQ played "Blue Sky"--it made me miss Dickey Betts. The point is that absence brings a presence that is but a image of what it was; yet, I'm glad I went and after the show looked up to the sky and said "rest in piece my ol friend."
He played "Joey" in his set though - I would have paid the full price just to see / hear that
Dylan could fart out his eyes and I'd cheer !!
Bob's the man
Didn't see the show last night, but I have seen Bob Dylan perform quite a bit the last few years, the last of which was in November of '02. I tend to think that when "Love and Theft" came out, which is one of his best works, IMO, it revitalized Dylan, much like "Time Out of Mind" did. But, that can only go so far, and for so long, and the fact that Dylan is constantly touring has to be wearing on him, especially given his age. Friends of mine saw him in Texas, and they thought he gave a very sub-par performance. He didn't look or sound good. That seems to be the opinion of more than a few fan reviews I've read as well. In fact, one comment was he seemed to be hiding behind his piano. Maybe it's time for Zimmy to take a break. Hey, if he comes out with another "Love nad Theft" in the interim, I'm all for it.
I THINK dYLAN IS ACTUALLY pretty COOL HE IS AN ARTIST AND IS PRESENTING HIS MATERIAL IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IT HAS BEEN INTERPRETED IN THE PAST JUST LIKE THE DEAD ARE DOING NOWADAYS. I USED TO ONBLY LISTEN TO THE DEAD AT ONE POINT HOWVER HAVE BEGUN TO APPRECIATE DYLAN MUCH MORE. I WAS ACTUALLY MORE INTERESTED IN THE DYLAN SET THAN THE DEAD SET. NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY I WOULD BE SAYING THAT. GROW UP.
I dont understand what isnt so grownup for making honest opinions that individuals feel.
There is nothing wrong with criticizing Dylan's performance. As for anyone who states that "Dylan officially sucks," they need to learn the history of American Music and understand that it kinda all converges on that one man's contribution to the poetics and politics of music...
I have seen him perform MANY times, and that he is up there struggling to get his words out says a lot about him. By the way, his last two albums and the single he released for Gods and Generals were masterpieces in their own right.
>>How or why is that an idiotic opinion?
It just is.
Oh, my common one with the coat so old
And the light in her head.
And the sufferin' so fine
Take a walk with me down by Avalon
And I will show you
It ain't why, why, why
It just is.
-- Van Morrison
You are so very right thank god we still have freedom of speech.
By the way Dylan did play VIsions of Johanna last week. Joey was a treat also. So he is actually pulling some nice numbers out of the bag. Please appreciate that. I would expect a I BELIEVE IN YOU-"They look at me with a frown, Like to drive me from this town they don't want me around" lyric. listen for it.
I BELIEVE IN YOU CONT. "THEY SHOW ME TO THE DOOR, THEY SAY DON'T COME BACK NO MORE, CUZ I DON'T BE LIKE THEY'D LIKE ME TO BE, I WALK OUT ON MY OWN 1000 MILES FROM HOME BUT I DON'T FEEL ALONE CUZ I BELIEVE IN YOU". GO ZIMMY! P.S. THIS IS FUN FOLLOWING DYLAN.
Now that this thread is only Dylan related, I must say that he is mixing his sets up more now than he has in 15 or 20 years. I can't wait to see him do Positively 4th Street and I Believe In You on this tour...
I think the truth that we Bobheads are promoting here is :
A)Half assed Dylan is better than no Dylan
B)Shitty Dylan is better than Hootie & The Blowfish
c)Bob don't give a f**k
Now if you can play by those rules . . .
Come on down . .
To give you an idea of how much of a Dylanhead I am I post more on bobdylan.com discussions than here. I have always enjoyed the Dead and their music, and see them as equivalent to great jazz, but Dylan is pure American blood..
Dylan is much much better at a smaller venue where you can hear his vocals better. It is hard to appreciate someone who is more lyric based than music based at an outdoor amphitheater with poor acoustics.
I am interested to see peoples opinion, including my own, after Dylan plays the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC the week after the Jones Beach Dead shows. I am sure he will be good and as always worth the price of admission.
Dylan is beyond reproach. I completely agree with Mr Bellingham. He's allowed a shitty night or two.
I saw him two Summers ago in Telluride and he ripped a hole in the blue cloudy roof of the town park. Also saw him in Ct in '86 when he was too loaded to play well, if at all. Petty's band carried him.
I just heard that Charlie Sexton's no longer in the band. What up?
Where's he gone? Who's replaed him. That boy could wail on da geetar.
this is shaping up to be quite a leg for anyone who loves (what amounts to the some finest in) music and music lovers. from what i've seen people who do either or both of these artists are not passive listners. many would cross the great divide just to hear phil drop a pin.
now, i think bobby (d) has always had a bit more of an abrasive (maggies farm- newport, europe 66) edge than the dead have ever been interested in, cynical and sarcastic, yet ever-sweet.
to me mixing the two is always a bit like weird science- it seems like it should be could be great, and at times it is, but it's a long shot.
check out jerry ripping like jimmy h. on "dylan and the dead"s All along the watchtower.
glad to see all these good-timey guys still spitting and kicking. dance, dance, dance
How can an opinon be idiotic? A knee jerk response to an unpopular or different opinion is idiotic. If the person who holds that opinion did not truly think through the problem/situation etc then maybe it is idiotic. Otherwise it is an opinion that one may not agree with. So an opinon that Dylan is awful overall is (in my opinion) incorrect and proably not well thought out. He's a genius who has passed the test of time and one of the most covered artists of all time. I have seen shows were he was awful. I've seen shows were the Dead were just awful. Nuff said.
Now on to Joan. I saw 9 shows on the tour, five at Red Rocks. I think she is great. I love her voice. It is much better than Jerry's, no comparison in my opinion. However, still like jerry's voice on some songs. I was blown away by her rendition of Days Between. A song I didn't really like much. Jerry used to muff the lyrics and his voice was too gravelly for this song. The versions I have on DAT are ok, but no great shakes. I can't wait to hear the Red Rocks version on cd. Have fun on the second leg.
Last night was my first show with the "dead". It was just great to see the guys last night as well as Joan too. I was thinking wouldnt Natalie Merchant be a fun to see sometime in the future singing with the dead?
I agree that Dylan sucked. I mean, it would have been nice to at least hear the lyrics. . .i couldn't . It sounded mumbled and i gave it a try.
I don't think the dead need any opening acts at all! What's the point? Have them on the whole time. The crowd was lame also. Very mellow. almost sleeping Not much dancing. not much room for dancing!
hey, i missed jerry terribly last night too. But that's life. wouldn't it be kind of cool to put up a hologram of him? Then the band could play along with him. . . maybe just one song? maybe on halloween? yeah, just one time. not every show. to make it special.
going to atlanta tomorrow. i think it should be more upbeat. . . i hope! and i am grateful to have the "dead" back. i really am. in the parking lot somebody gave me a bumper sticker "born-again deadhead". yeah, !
i always made it a point to see the dead regularly since i first started in 1981..at least once a year to get a spiritual fix. to dance and to hear certain licks and lyrics that keep me going and uplift me for the whole year....thanks!
Fuck Off all you Bobby Dylan Bashers! I would way rather see him the Friggen Joan Oz and friends. Everytime Joan sings a Jerry song it makes me want to puke. everytime..IMO she doesnt even belong on the same planet as the boys. FIRE JOAN PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Can't wait to see what Bob plays tonight.
Dakota, no need to be dropping f-bombs - relax dude.
jerry's voice was the sweetest.
>>Everytime Joan sings a Jerry song it makes me want to puke. everytime
Gettin' kinda old, Da Kotex Gummer. Everytime?
Why are you still listening? Being loud and repetitive doesn't make a vocal minority any less of a minority. Joan's here, and kicking ass in the opinion of what seems to be an overwhelming majority. I'm sure your CD player has a skip function. Use it. As for shows, you can have the can all to yourself while Joan is rocking the house.
Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, however narrow-minded.
I cought the show , and to the suprise of everyone, Dylan opened. The general concensus was that Hunter would. Now, let me say this: Dylan rocked his and everybody's ass in the place right off their backsides.His band was hot as a pistol. All were masters of their craft.It was an honor and a privilage to see the man who singlehandedly changed Rock music lyrically. Before Dylan everything was "teen angel" and "I love you, do do do". Dylan changed all that. The Dead were amazing. The vocal harmonies have never approached this leavel in 40 years. No knock against Jerry at all, mind you, but more of a complement to Joan Osborn. She has a trained voice which is 98% of the time, right on the money. By the way, that's a VERY good percentage. Her rendition of Crazy Fingers was just beautiful. She's really a great compliment to Hunter/Garcia 's writing tallents.And true to the lyrics of another favorite "Well there ain't nothin' wrong with the way she moves". The band didn't hit a wrong note all evening. The funniest part was when in the middle of a jam Bobby goes and starts talking to Mickey. Mickey suddenly looks suprised and stops playing with a grin from ear to ear and clearly laughing heartedly. He continues laughing and gives Bob "the Finger" right in his face. Bob's laughing as well. They then when into the Friend of the Devil progression song where Mickey does the naration(Sorry folks, the name escapes me at the moment). Another notible moment was at one point the "guests" in the band all left the stage for the original 4 core members to go at it themselves. GREAT!
Robert Hunter played in the Dead's intermission. There is a saying in the music industry that says that a good songwriter isn't always a good performer. Hunter has penned some of the finest lyrics we've ever heard. However Robert Hunter has virtually no sense of time or rhythm. Now I'm not bar B. Quing Robert, just stating a fact. Like the 'Stone's song goes "Time Waits for no one" and it didn't wait for Robert either. There were points in his set where the crowd attempted to clap along. This was entirely fruitless as Robert couldn't stay with a 4/4 time at all. The clapping would start and after a few measures the crowd (who COULD keep time)were all confused because the song either sped up or slowed down, or just plain fell off rhythmicly. His set was a lot like going to see an open mic in an arena that sits 22,000.
Ft. Lauderdale was a great show.
palm beach post review
"learn the history of American Music and understand that it kinda all converges on that one man's contribution to the poetics and politics of music... "
Absolutely. Lets just not forget his influences, Wooody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Stienbeck and others
Y'all are nuts, the dylan shit was great.
alabama getaWAY getaWAY
sunrise was a wet fart compared to last night
solid mellow show but last nite was historic
the dylan/dead stuff was fine by me, they brought all the volume up while he was out and pushed. it made me laugh, smile. fun fun fun.
Before Dylan everything was "teen angel" and "I love you, do do do".
chris i am going to assume your young,but before dylan there were all kind of great wordsmiths that had nothing to do with teen angel and i love you pop songs. try listening to some of the blues masters like skip james or country greats like jimmy rodgers,as great as dylan is he did not spring up whole he studied and in some cases copied some of the masters before him
>Y'all are nuts, the dylan shit was great.
I'm still waiting on a full review from you and Redneck BOTB. I enjoyed hearing about Neil Young a while back. Glad to here that the dylan shit didn't disappoint everyone.
>alabama getaWAY getaWAY
Ha ha! I can hear it!
Mainline Florida .... yeefrickinhaw
adventures abound!!!!! ahoy and man the deck ye mateys, for it was fine INDEED and much fun all around. Ahead lie the tales, edited for content and specifics.
We sailed the Black Pearl towards southern climes, bow planted firmly ahead, plowing through the surf. A beautiful morning, sun shining down, with not enough sleep, yrs truly Capt Sparrow headed to Fort Lauderdale with the speed of a Jet, Blue ocean crashing against the decks. Make mine a DOUBLE, thanks, and bring another round would you kindly?
Upon arriving in Ft Laud, we were shuttled in by two of the kindest sailors, now comprising the Black Pearl voyage crew. We secured a home base on dry land and began in on the Witterkerk beers (YUM) and general catching up, others just meeting new comrades. Sailors of the same cloth, PIRATES indeed. We were joined by an infamous sailor from Atlanta and his old chum; the preshow raged with great intent. Beauty most fine....a perfect zooom of clean cold beer to chase the fire in my lungs. Outside the skies grew dark with clouds and shot blinding white bolts of lightning into the Florida countryside. “Ah ,”I mutter, “yet again, a show where I need to bring the poncho.”
Navigating the seas to the Office Depot Center was a pretzel of disaster....what was to have been five minutes became 30, 45.....(FUCK MAPQUEST INDEED, Panther Lane vs Panther Alley my GOD, but GOD BLESS ATT CONNECT). Despite the runaround, our hearts and minds were full of possibility.....would there be a Here Comes Sunshine opener? A Lazy Lightning for the storm??? We dashed into the arena, no need for raingear (missing dylan - ) and held our breath.
(Note Bene: The sound was odd, at both shows, imho. Boomy, with the high frequency coming down off the...ceiling? Hypothesis is that the sound/shed set up is not really built for the arena.)
Our dock is right by the soundboard, on the back of the floor, with a huge aisle to spin out in (we were the front row of the section). The pirates rolled with the Fric Frac twins, always a harbinger of great Purple Silver Beauty. Arooohoohoo most certainly.
BUT THE SHOW.
(notes from the book - ya know....I try to be “in the moment” HAHAAHHAHA)
jam “nice chord change”
BAM BAM BAM BOM BOOOOOM JAM
New Potato Caboose
dylan joins.....Alabama Getaway (mmmm, was dylan out for this?)
Baby Blue (thus (Shaker Tater, Bama Blue)
West LA Fade (Dylan on vox, CLASSIC!)
>>(dylan leaves)Crazy Fingers>>>
Cumberland (huge dancer yummers)
“Om Jam” TKN (tomorrow never knows) a highlight!!! truly scrumptious>>
Liberty (MUCH APPRECIATED AND BELOVED by this pirate most espech)
SET BREAK (cant EVEN believe I actually wrote this)
King David and the phone
Chris with the PZ shirt and Jim
(folks, if you don’t want people calling out and freaking on you....Don’t Wear the PZ shirt to a Show......hee hee)
Bob comes out strappin the acoustic
El Paso (tres bon)>>
FOTD tease>>Down the Road
Playin’ Reprise jam>>
Estimated (a beautiful sequence: playin jam>>1/2>>Estimated, really fine)
almost sounds like drumstime BUT FIRST
the Phil vs. Bob jamout (YEEHAW)>>
sounds like Phil might bomb it, but no, like PNC it’s a sneaky
(like a rattler in a hot desert night, “spanish lady comes to me.........”)
and did they FINISH other one? They did NOT finish the playin....but then again, it is difficult to get those fricfrac twins to agree
>>spacejam, joan on stage with arms akimbo.....doing her moaning, sighing vamp......
it will be.....
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DAYS BETWEEN.
Joan learned the words and sang them with Respect and Soul. Tonight I will read them and cry like a baby,
and I still can’t stop singing the building refrain....
“There were DAYS
there were DAAAAAYS
there were Days Between........” Melancholy Jerry indeed.
Into a nice but kind of tight (short?) Lovelight - great energy, though.
Bid ya Encore. (the fast light and this beautiful but quickie encore had me thinking curfew)
a show most DELECTABLE.
Post show. Much to our distress the Atlanta pirate’s boat cuts anchor and speeds off.......to my SINCERE regret indeed. Our craft, the Black Pearl finds harbor after much navigational circuitousness, the Witterkerk becomes Mobil Mart Coronas and Heinekens.....we tweak the computer systems on the pirate ship and then spin the Mansfield Sailor Saint on the Itunes....UNREAL ITUNES (get a mac get a mac JUST FOR ITUNES). Sailor, Saint, soul songs for me.....which I embraced as gems AT THIS POINT HAVING BEEN PLAYED ONLY IN MANSFIELD.
a wakeup call you sleep through....
it’s 11 AM and you have to drive to Tampa.
But you have to eat......(PIRATES PICK DENNY’S)
and while casting off half lifes
with white ghostly pallor, Capt Sparrow and the Bucanneers hit the long cross state road.
At the helm the local sailors who know these waters did a masterful job of getting us where we needed to be -
the first of many THANK YOUS to the Florida Pirates
We hit a mid ocean WalMart for crucial purchases and first mate Snizzle gets the pirates water pistols. I get them squeeze flashlights shaped like tigers bc I went off so hard on Saint of Circumstance the post show rage the night before
(just a tiger in a trance )
Pirates hit Wendy’s for frosties and grub....is the mayo bad at Wendy’s or something???? MORE immodium THANK YOU PLEASE
With trains clogging the seas and detours spitting us out on the wrong side of wherever it was wherever we needed to be, we sailed directly to the Ice Palace, do not pass go, do not collect $200.....
(go to the Tampa thread for Part Two )
Jerry LOVED Bob at this show!!!
HELLO VERNON SALVIA!!!!!
Hey! Thanks for reading my post and taking the time to post a comment!
If you go back though and read it, I think you'll notice it says "..the man who singlehandedly changed Rock music lyrically...."
The key word here Vernon, is "Rock" and perhaps I should say "Rock & Roll", as that is what it was called back then. Yes! Of course there were more sophisticated lyrics in both Blues, Country & Western, and of course Folk music. However it was Dylan who bucked the trends of his prodominant field, folk music and hit the R & R scene in Newport Rhoad Island. The Beatles were greatly influenced by him and everything was just a domino effect from there. It was Dylan who introduced this type of writing to R & R. Everyone else followed.
At Sunrise Dylan was just fantastic! Both on his own and with the three songs he did with the Dead
It was an honor to be there!!!
Again Vernon, thanks for the comment and the time you took to read my post! By the way, I'm an old fu*k and been around the block more than.... what was I just talking about? Hummmmmm. Watkin's Glen? Yeah, Yeah, that's right Watkins Glen! I was there with my Bud's Richard, Tim and Gonzo. Saw the Bears of Laughing Pleasure two days before the show. Phil kept saying "This is just a test" in the sound check..... what was I just talking about? Oh my post on Sunrise!!! Yeah! Great show!!!!!
Sunrise was weak for a variety of reasons and great for a variety. The acoustics of the venue were horrible....The crowd was so rocking in Tampa in comparison to sunrise....And the jams between songs did not flow as I normally hear them....I did really enjoy most of the music (except for the 3 dylan songs) but the music did not flow and tell one large story as I have seen in the past...The miss 1/2 step was awesome but its placement made no sense to me...and the playing out of el paso was just hectic....I really was excited about several points of the show though...The ohm chant gave me goose bumps and I pointed out to the people I was with that the only people on stage for the other one jam were the members of the original band....I thought the playing of the other one and not finishing it were very symbolic...The drums were out of the world and that was the best and shortest lovelight I have ever heard....I think I may just stay on tour so I can stalk joan.....later
How was Estimated?
earlier i really bashed Dylan. i have the utmost respect for his song writing ability. one of the greatest writers of the last 50 years. i just can't handle his voice. i thought the songs with him during the first set were very sloppy. maybe i couldn't get past the voice. i saw tampa and atlanta and thought the band sounded much better with him (still couln't handle the voice though) they ripped on big river in atlanta. i also felt three songs were too much with him. they repeated west la fadeaway and alabama getaway two days later in atlanta. admitted they both sounded alot better in atlanta, especially alabama. well i truly enjoyed all three shows and this band is definetly worth going to see. all three shows had their highlights and lowlights. it was great just to be part of the music once again with bobby, phil, micky and billy all together. hope they don't forget about florida the next major tour. also i feel joan is a great addition to the band. "days between" and "comes a time" were highlights of the shows because of her powerful singing.
You've read this thread this far and it's been a while since the show. You must be bored. Why not read another REDNECK review ?
Here goes : Episode 1
Got the day off from work, so I awoke easily enough after staying up too late. Hey, I was excited, I'm getting two shows this week. Got a late start, but passed the time on a nice drive across the great State of Florida ("If my Grandpa could see it now, Lord, he'd lay down and die..." - JJ Grey) Lazily driving low stress, Got the new Donna the Buffalo/Jim Lauderdale cd going ("The waves of Love surround you..." GET IT NOW)Pass Taquerias and cow fields and finally wind up at the Port o' Call, to pick up some wandering Pirates. Drop supplies @ the hotey, meet some good peeps (nice ta meetcha Zen & Co.) for pre-show festivities and away we went, too late for the Dylan set ->
Don't remember too much about entry, I was on my own plane of existence. Entry must have been easy. We find our seats and every thing is hunky dory.
Shakedown Street opens after a short, interesting jam. I love how they hit that opening note "BOWWWMMMMMMMM..." but, this Shakedown is MUCH slower, still funky, but slow. Nice, but my booty wasn't really shaking like it did @ Vibes '02.I can't say enough how I was surprised that they played it this slow. Anyone else see it that way ? Next was seamless segue into...
New Potato Caboose. I've seen one with PLQ and one @ Alpine, but this one has to be the best I've seen. Wicked psychedelic (or was it me ?) Start noticing the light show, too. BIG PROPS ON LIGHT SHOW.The boys start looking at each other and I see a white cowboy hat bound onstage - DYLAN !! they rumble right into...
Alabama Getaway. I loved it with Dylan. "Alabama GetawAY". Alrighty, this is cool. Next is...
Baby Blue. This got pretty psychedelic to me. I always thought of it as a psychedelic song when the Dead did it, so no surprise. Standard Dylan song with some Dead interpretation in it. Nice, but did not hold my attention. Started looking around and noticed the lights again. Was glad when next came...
West LA Fadeaway. This song was almost made for Dylan, IMHO. I was greatly pleased with his contribution, he re-defined the song. Convinced me that Dylan is still strong. Song ends, Cowboy hat bounces off-stage and next comes...
Crazy Fingers from a full stop.Phil starts that Bass line and I know what it is and so do a lot of folks in the place, I'm cheering, Jimmy's sprinkling notes over the top and the opening jam gives way to a beautiful reading of this tune by Joan. No lyrical flubs, strong melody, my goodness, I have that tingly feeling.The outtro jam kicks along nicely Billy and Mick giving poly-rythmic beats for Phil and Jimmy to dance on top of. I LOVE this song. The jam starts to pick up, getting that country boogie flavor and it's not too long before...
Cumberland Blues !! Hell Yeah !! I'm shaking my ass and Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy is just tearing up this fucking song, man, it's in shreds !!! Jimmy REALLY must dig this tune because his tone and style fit right in and it's freakin' AWESOME !!! I can't get down enough ! After awhile the jam sorta slows and gets a little spacey. I'm not sure what to expect when The Band, led by Joan, starts an...
Om chant, I hear first Joan, then Phil, then the rest join at the mics and it's really kinda spooky. All of a sudden (to me) a VERY familiar drum beat starts (Mickey has this tune DOWN) and it's...
Tomorrow Never Knows. I'm pretty psychedelic at this point so this is a damn nice treat, the band knows my buzz and is proceeding smoothly (or is it the other way 'round ?)"Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream..." After some serious psychedelic jamming and more noodly, spidery runs from Jimmy we stop and I think the set is over, but no. In order not to leave us all "out of sorts" we get...
Liberty. Good strong solid version to get us to set break and a happy landing from a freakin GREAT FIRST SET !
Overall first set inpression : Full of highlights, only one time did my attention wane from the music (Baby Blue). The rest of the time I was held rapt.
Stay tuned for P2...
Unfortunately, I don't remember Hunter's set at break. Bad slot for him, IMHO. Set break is when peeps get their shit straight for set 2.
Lights go down, cheers go up and it's...
El Paso Cool. I like the Cowboy Bob songs. And did I mention that Bobby is ON FIRE !? His playing in the first set was really the understated highlight. He's got the acoustic on for this and it's sweet. I'm not sure if there was a real segue but, next we go into...
Playin' Ohhh, yeah, they are gettying down to it from the git go. Yes, Bobby is still ON FIRE !! I'm sitting here thinking "Wow, Jimmy sounds REALLY good, what's up ? Oh !!! It's Bob doing what Bob does best -> namely being Bob Weir. Fulla Jam on this one, watch your bread so the jam don't soak through. Next we zap into...
Down The Road Again. Harrumph, or so I thought. Say what you will about Mickey's singing (snarling) but Jimmy really lifts this tune outta the bathroom break list. Good interplay too because, as I mentioned earlier, Bob Weir is ON FIRE !!!Good save from a precarious situation, folks.In the outtro jamming, I hear some...
FOTD runs and that's what I thought we were getting until...
Playin' Jam Rears up and Bob Weir is STILL ON FIRE !!! Somebody tell him to save some for Tampa, my goodness. I've been quick to bash Bob sometimes, but let me tell you that tonight was "The Best Of Bob Weir show". Everything I like about Bob with no supercheese filling.Big Props to the man because this jam started to drip out the sides of bread, when along comes...
Mississippi 1/2 Step, in for some melodic rave up. Good reading, this band is way better than the band I saw at Alpine, nice rave up at the "Rio Grande" part and we go gracefully into another highlight, namely...
Estimated Prophet. Did I say Bob Weir was ON FIRE !?! This is fat, phat, FAT, PHAT !!!. Good God, my attention was held rapt. Jimmy, Bob, Phil were interplaying all over this MoFo and I am now reaping more than the price of admission. I am wondering where all this killer interplay is leading when Phil and Bob get really nasty with...
Other One. Bobby is still ON FIRE ! Don't you get it ? He is jamming with PHIL for cryin' out loud !!! It's PHIL AND BOB AND MICKEY AND BILLY MAN !!!!!!! Holy Schmoly this turns out to be the meat and potatos of the evening full of jam, but this is the part folks should sink their teeth into at home. The intro jam just showed that Unity is possible and these guys aren't wasting time. I am held agape. Thankfully, a very interesting...
Drums/Space came next. Instead of heading into the bathroom, I stayed and listened and it was good. Very psychedelic and I'm not thinking, but absorbing and relishing what Billy and Mickey can do. Sometimes I forget. Tonight they reminded me why I am here.Space makes everything spooky and dark, blue lights coming around and I'm thinking "Stella?" but no, even better...
Days Between. I'm going to make a painful admission here. I wept. Like a wittle Baby by myself. My minds eye can clearly see a blurry Joan taking this song to the heights it needs to be taken to. No lyrical flubs, no miscues, too sweet, I am teared up just remembering and writing this. In an evening of highlights, fo me, this is THE highlight. This song got me emotionally onto the Bus, the way the rest of the show had me mentally on the bus, if you catch my drift.Thankfully, I knew we would not be left looking for those Days and we were treated to an upbeat...
Lovelight Kinda standard, but very sharp, the engine is hitting on all cylinders and my ass is moving, moving, moving. After, the boys are removing the guitars and such, the show is over. Along comes a smiling Phil for what I knew would be the...
Donor Rap. Standard, Phil says he loves doing this and can feel the energy between the crowd and himsef and asks "Can you feel it ?" Oh, Yeah was the resounding reply and mandatory cheers when Phil talks about his own organ transplant. PLEASE DONATE YOUR ORGANS, You Can't Take 'Em With You. For the encore the only thing appropriate was...
And We Bid You Goodnight. Joan's contribution shows how much these guys have worked on the vox. Splendid, I say.
Overall impression - KICK ASS !! Get this !!! You will not be disappointed.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the kind folks from Philzone Admin, without whom, after seeing their site, I would never have known that this music still lives, my deepest gratitude for the friends, music, companionship and laughs.
Also, to backonthebus for being the best girlfriend in the world, I Love You babe !!!
Capt. Sparrow and Schnee - best couple-a Mates this side of the Atlantic. AHOY !!!
Zen and Co. Meeting new cool Zoners is as good as getting a kind show, thanks for being there, well have to hook up at some more shows.